Here in Sweden the .308 Win is dominating the market. About 8 out off 10 new hunting rifles is a 308. It used to be 6,5x55 and 30-06 with some .300 Win Mag. Manny of them now sits in a Gun Store with a discount sticker on them. The .308 Win hits the sweet spot effect/recoil/hunting laws/general hunting distance here in Sweden. That said, some people are starting to lock at the more heavy hitting rounds for the wild boars hunts.
One more pro of the 308 Winchester is it doesn’t burn out barrels like a lot of other cartridges can do. Owning a heavy barrel bolt action, for me the recoil is mild. Unlike my 7MM Rem Mag.
I loved my FN C1A1 in 7.62x51 NATO when I was in the army. Because of that, I have owned a Savage 99 and a Tikka T3, both in .308. They have put a lot of venison on the table over the years. My favourite is the 150 grain because the flat trajectory is great for long range shots, and the mass is sufficient to bring down the largest bucks with a single shot. I know guys who have used it for moose even. Great round.
I have owned all the .30 cals that you have mentioned and in my experience the 308 does everything the larger rounds do at sensible hunting ranges (350m) with less recoil and less powder if you reload. It’s knocking on the 30-06 door up to 165grain weight and is only down a couple of hundred fps with the 180 grain projectiles. Good video Ozzie.
They are also more accurate then the 30-06, because the cartridge or powder stack it too long to burn reliably. .300 win mag is wider and tapered nicely, but unless you want to change the barrel like brake pads well....
@@Paul-45-70 Not anymore, btw I love my .308 and 30-06, at 1k they don't stack up to my 6.5. The 300 win mag did, till the barels throat wore out after 400ish rounds. Was a Sako btw
Going for my license soon. And my first rifle. And camel hunting is on the radar. So I'm looking at a 308 for hunting and also a .22LR for club events.
I use 308 for elk ,deer , coyote , wolf and bear hunting . No reason to go overkill with something bigger when it gets the job done . My main hunting and plinking caliber for 43 years . I hunt alot if canyons and other rough areas . After 43 years , I know how to shoot those shots . I am not sure how many 308 rifles I have in the safes anymore .
$1 per shot? Hi, I'm Will I'm from the future 2023, 2+ years after this video was posted. .308 Win is now $2.39 a round when buying in bulk by the tin. Ouch, time have changed.
Here in Norway we hunt at short to medium distances and many likes our rifles with shorter barrels because we put silencers on. Then the recoils drops. The 308 burn all the gasses and one can cut the barrel shorter than the other like 6,5, 3006 etc.
For those of you who have never shot a 308 and worried about recoil, don't. My 11 year old step son put 3 rounds through a mates Sako A7 308 no dramas at all
It's really interesting about the recoil side of things. I've only recently picked up and started shooting a .308 and I don't find the recoil severe or painful. It's louder and produces more concussion, but I don't believe it's really that bad. I was, frankly, a little scared to shoot it off the first time owing to it's reputation, but it was not bad at all. More of a shove, less of a concussion. For example, this weekend I shot off around 15 rounds with the .308 and a dozen with the .223 and I didn't feel any ill effects. If anything I'd liken it to shooting a 12-gauge. I was shooting 150-160 grain bullets, so I wonder if that might be why it wasn't so bad?
Had a bit of experience with the 308 & 7.62 NATO, and as you say, generally they aren’t all that bad, but in the shorter barrel rifles they can worry newer shooters as the muzzle blast tends to add a bit of mongrel to their performance. Back in the 70s I had a chance to test fire a Bren which was rebarrelled from 303 to 7.62N, and, well, all I can say is WOW!! No discernible recoil, it was taken up by the reloading. The only thing wrong with it was changing mags every 30 rounds. And it was pretty darned accurate as well, the 300yd pattern (still a nice elliptical pattern), wasn’t all over the place as with the M60.
@@PilotMcbride The length of barrel has a big effect on recoil, I own several .308's of different barrel length and the difference in recoil is quite apparent, from a short barrelled 18 inch Gun Site Scout rifle, (heavier recoil). to a 24 inch barrelled target rifle (mild recoil).
I have a 26 inch heavy barrel on my 308 and regularly put up to 100 rounds through it at the range off a bench, usually with heavier projectiles. I am also recoil sensitive but don't find it heavy on recoil. My rifle is not a light weight hunting rig though.
Also it's super easy to reload it can be accurate with a wide range of powders and bullet weights. It's not finicky like some cartridges that have to have the perfect bullet with the perfect charge weight. And that makes it even cheaper. Thank you 👍
Gday ozzie , hope alls well mate , iv learnt heaps of ur videos , im stepping up to 308 now , i gotta tikka t3x 223 and a 22 lr cz 452 ,whats ur favourite 308 to shoot ? , im thinkin lithgow 1a 102 or sako 85 🤔
Just bought a Tikka T3X Lite Stainless in 308 (2024). I'm in Australia, ammo = $105 for a box of 40 Federal 130g hollow points - $2.62 a round. Hornady 178gr 308 ELD X = $95 a box of 20 - $4.75 a round. Not whinging, just saying.
hello mate, fresh gun owner here. I was just wondering if that 308 soft tip in 180 grain is good enough for deer? and also would it be too much for a fox?
I clarify that I don't listen to the video because I don't know English..... as they always say, practice makes the champion, the first rifle requires a 223, a 223 with a suppressor silences even with pvc pipes, then choose, 243 or 270 and overlap everything learned with the 223
old comment but you can get cheaper plinking ammunition for still around 1.30 a round and if you reload you can still manage around a dollar a round if you can get primers that is
@@krisdeaglephotography4539 no idea what this guy is on about, here in South Australia you can go to any gun stores even in the middle of the city and they will definitely have .308
1. Ok boomer 2. People who say they can purchase 308 ammo anywhere, more often than not measure accuracy in, ''minute of pig''. 3. Designed for purpose carts are almost on parity now re cost 4. Theres faster longer range, lower recoiling, just as, or more effective carts that use less powder and have similar barrel life, 308 users: (boomers) sounds shit
I'm betting an old "boomer" with a .308 will still be out shooting the kids and their new calibres. I've seen so many new shooters over the years with "all the gear, but no idea" 😉. I'm Gen X so I sit in the middle of this fight!
@@redrock425 boomer isnt an age, its a mind set. For example. You think that someone who has spent years firing one round, vs someone firing a different round with less shooting experience, somehow has anything to do with the effectiveness of a particular round. That you think youre cooler because you shoot a 308 well, vs someone with a creedmoor just starting to shoot is #boomerlogic. Youre not defending 308. Youre pumping your chest and your ego. THAT makes you a boomer, boomer.
308WIN fans are like the Collingwood football team fans of the gun world. I’ll never understand the obsession with a mediocre cartridge like that. Sure it’s ok... but it’s certainly not the best thing since sliced bread like so many make it out to be. That may be a little harsh but it’s also true.
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Thanks mate, one of my staples. Effective, easily available, accurate, a good looking round and cheap. Kinda like my missus really.
@Michael Neely I prefer "good value". LOL
😂😂
it also kills with one shot, just like your missus!
.308 expensive asf u tripping
@@noahbeckstead8600 , It was cheap before this ammo shortage . I didnt pay over 65 cents a round for hornady or federal hunting rounds .
Here in Sweden the .308 Win is dominating the market. About 8 out off 10 new hunting rifles is a 308.
It used to be 6,5x55 and 30-06 with some .300 Win Mag. Manny of them now sits in a Gun Store with a discount sticker on them.
The .308 Win hits the sweet spot effect/recoil/hunting laws/general hunting distance here in Sweden.
That said, some people are starting to lock at the more heavy hitting rounds for the wild boars hunts.
One more pro of the 308 Winchester is it doesn’t burn out barrels like a lot of other cartridges can do. Owning a heavy barrel bolt action, for me the recoil is mild. Unlike my 7MM Rem Mag.
308 is a great caliber. The best in my opinion. Affordable, available, powerful and the recoil isnt that bad
I loved my FN C1A1 in 7.62x51 NATO when I was in the army. Because of that, I have owned a Savage 99 and a Tikka T3, both in .308. They have put a lot of venison on the table over the years. My favourite is the 150 grain because the flat trajectory is great for long range shots, and the mass is sufficient to bring down the largest bucks with a single shot. I know guys who have used it for moose even. Great round.
The dual cab ute of the caliber world...
I have owned all the .30 cals that you have mentioned and in my experience the 308 does everything the larger rounds do at sensible hunting ranges (350m) with less recoil and less powder if you reload. It’s knocking on the 30-06 door up to 165grain weight and is only down a couple of hundred fps with the 180 grain projectiles. Good video Ozzie.
They are also more accurate then the 30-06, because the cartridge or powder stack it too long to burn reliably. .300 win mag is wider and tapered nicely, but unless you want to change the barrel like brake pads well....
Adam Ski , when the cartridge first came out it held a few bench rest titles.
@@Paul-45-70 Not anymore, btw I love my .308 and 30-06, at 1k they don't stack up to my 6.5. The 300 win mag did, till the barels throat wore out after 400ish rounds. Was a Sako btw
Was kind of expecting all the comments about how blokes love their .308 more than 6.5... but none, civil fans. 👍
Yes great info 270 next please....keep up the great work mate
The humble .308 has been hitting V Bulls out to 1000 yards since the 1950's ;)
1000??? Dreaming mate
@@mattluszczak8095 never heard of fullbore target shooting I see...
@@matthewmoses4222 He knows nothing about shooting if he doesn't know the 308w is used in competition shooting out to 1000 yds.
Going for my license soon. And my first rifle. And camel hunting is on the radar.
So I'm looking at a 308 for hunting and also a .22LR for club events.
Great choices. Think about throwing a .243 in there for your third choice down the track.
I use 308 for elk ,deer , coyote , wolf and bear hunting . No reason to go overkill with something bigger when it gets the job done . My main hunting and plinking caliber for 43 years . I hunt alot if canyons and other rough areas . After 43 years , I know how to shoot those shots . I am not sure how many 308 rifles I have in the safes anymore .
$1 per shot? Hi, I'm Will I'm from the future 2023, 2+ years after this video was posted. .308 Win is now $2.39 a round when buying in bulk by the tin. Ouch, time have changed.
Good series this, I keep coming back to watch them
Here in Norway we hunt at short to medium distances and many likes our rifles with shorter barrels because we put silencers on. Then the recoils drops. The 308 burn all the gasses and one can cut the barrel shorter than the other like 6,5, 3006 etc.
For those of you who have never shot a 308 and worried about recoil, don't. My 11 year old step son put 3 rounds through a mates Sako A7 308 no dramas at all
yeah also depends on the rifle, if you build a heavy target rifle its going to be way less recoil than a light weight hunting rifle
It's really interesting about the recoil side of things. I've only recently picked up and started shooting a .308 and I don't find the recoil severe or painful. It's louder and produces more concussion, but I don't believe it's really that bad. I was, frankly, a little scared to shoot it off the first time owing to it's reputation, but it was not bad at all. More of a shove, less of a concussion. For example, this weekend I shot off around 15 rounds with the .308 and a dozen with the .223 and I didn't feel any ill effects. If anything I'd liken it to shooting a 12-gauge.
I was shooting 150-160 grain bullets, so I wonder if that might be why it wasn't so bad?
I am pretty recoil sensitive, but 308 is a nice round for mine, top end of my shooting but it will drop almost everything in Oz.
Had a bit of experience with the 308 & 7.62 NATO, and as you say, generally they aren’t all that bad, but in the shorter barrel rifles they can worry newer shooters as the muzzle blast tends to add a bit of mongrel to their performance.
Back in the 70s I had a chance to test fire a Bren which was rebarrelled from 303 to 7.62N, and, well, all I can say is WOW!! No discernible recoil, it was taken up by the reloading. The only thing wrong with it was changing mags every 30 rounds. And it was pretty darned accurate as well, the 300yd pattern (still a nice elliptical pattern), wasn’t all over the place as with the M60.
@@PilotMcbride The length of barrel has a big effect on recoil, I own several .308's of different barrel length and the difference in recoil is quite apparent, from a short barrelled 18 inch Gun Site Scout rifle, (heavier recoil). to a 24 inch barrelled target rifle (mild recoil).
I find it a bastard on the Bench but I'm fine prone or standing with a La102
I have a 26 inch heavy barrel on my 308 and regularly put up to 100 rounds through it at the range off a bench, usually with heavier projectiles. I am also recoil sensitive but don't find it heavy on recoil. My rifle is not a light weight hunting rig though.
Love the review
Love to see 270 next
Also it's super easy to reload it can be accurate with a wide range of powders and bullet weights. It's not finicky like some cartridges that have to have the perfect bullet with the perfect charge weight. And that makes it even cheaper. Thank you 👍
Hope you do a 7mm rem mag soon
love the info
do 270 next
If you were to choose a caliber for hunting dogs-small deer would you say 243 or 308 mate?
Nollixss , Its great fir deer, elk and bear .
can you do a beginner video on gun safes?
loving these ammo reviews, maybe 7mm08 next?
Great video! Cheers Ozzie
Hey Ozzie...at what age did u start shooting and how many years u been doing it..🤔
Gday ozzie , hope alls well mate , iv learnt heaps of ur videos , im stepping up to 308 now , i gotta tikka t3x 223 and a 22 lr cz 452 ,whats ur favourite 308 to shoot ? , im thinkin lithgow 1a 102 or sako 85 🤔
Great video,Can you do the 7mm-08.
Just bought a Tikka T3X Lite Stainless in 308 (2024). I'm in Australia, ammo = $105 for a box of 40 Federal 130g hollow points - $2.62 a round. Hornady 178gr 308 ELD X = $95 a box of 20 - $4.75 a round. Not whinging, just saying.
Do this with 270
The recoil and muzzle blast on the 308 are so mild, a huge reduction even from the 30 06.
Don't forget the military utility and it's been used in full auto (GPMG and rifles).
The 308 will take any game here in Australia with good shot placement.
Thanks for the info
Do a pro and con on the 6.5 swede its really popular here in canada
hello mate, fresh gun owner here. I was just wondering if that 308 soft tip in 180 grain is good enough for deer? and also would it be too much for a fox?
Sure you've probably found your answer but yes. 150s are good too
@bennonlapworth5026 pwoahhhh mate, damn right I have. Appreciate it though taking the time to reply anyway. Not many like that nowadays days
Please do a ruger .204 review especially vs a 223
223 better. There done.
Not Here can you tell me why?
@@barrydawson7548 yes everything u said except shoot flatter but it’s still a very flat round
Great video, time to design, produce, sell & use a new OzzieReviews Tablemat :-)
Where do I get it for the 1 dollar a shot mate? My local stores are about 2 bucks a shot. Send me broke just to become proficient.
depends on the state, here in SA you can get cheaper plinking ammo for around 1.30 a shot otherwise look into reloading
I clarify that I don't listen to the video because I don't know English..... as they always say, practice makes the champion, the first rifle requires a 223, a 223 with a suppressor silences even with pvc pipes, then choose, 243 or 270 and overlap everything learned with the 223
6.5 creedmoor anyone? Still love my .308 though.
Where can you buy them at AU$1 per round? In Sydney its more like $3-4..
Queensland
Good info
Yep love my 308 and it drops camels
Really...where do u hunt them??
Western Australia
@@OOHYEH What pill do you use ..?
I reload 110 g for kangaroos but on the camels I use 180 g
...That's what I'm looking at doing. Going for my license and then looking at a 308. And camel hunting with some friends.
"Recoil Sensitive "
$40+ for a box of 20 doesn't work out to $1a shot, my favourite caliber but
@@patriot7734 im in townsville north Queensland, what is midway?
@@patriot7734 Australia and New Zealand cannot buy from US websites. Customs won’t let it in country and we would also be waiting on the Sea shipping.
old comment but you can get cheaper plinking ammunition for still around 1.30 a round and if you reload you can still manage around a dollar a round if you can get primers that is
You're only going to find 308 right now in a very remote gun shop.
What? Common as.
@@krisdeaglephotography4539 9 months ago? Maybe .270 WSM, maybe...
@@adamhymas4620 Easy as to find for me 🤷♂️
@@krisdeaglephotography4539 no idea what this guy is on about, here in South Australia you can go to any gun stores even in the middle of the city and they will definitely have .308
Love 308
Kick pffft its only given you lovely cheek kisses.
You only feel it at the bench hey.
👍👍😁
Paying $2 a round in cairns
U guys rekon a 15 year old can handle the kick
AusMkd, Yes . I have been shooting one of my 308 rifles since I got it when I was 10.
3 stars
1. Ok boomer
2. People who say they can purchase 308 ammo anywhere, more often than not measure accuracy in, ''minute of pig''.
3. Designed for purpose carts are almost on parity now re cost
4. Theres faster longer range, lower recoiling, just as, or more effective carts that use less powder and have similar barrel life, 308 users: (boomers) sounds shit
That was difficult to read
@@timlaw219 must be a 308 user, HerRrDeeEErr
I'm betting an old "boomer" with a .308 will still be out shooting the kids and their new calibres. I've seen so many new shooters over the years with "all the gear, but no idea" 😉. I'm Gen X so I sit in the middle of this fight!
@@redrock425 boomer isnt an age, its a mind set. For example. You think that someone who has spent years firing one round, vs someone firing a different round with less shooting experience, somehow has anything to do with the effectiveness of a particular round. That you think youre cooler because you shoot a 308 well, vs someone with a creedmoor just starting to shoot is #boomerlogic. Youre not defending 308. Youre pumping your chest and your ego. THAT makes you a boomer, boomer.
"Purlease 'xplain?!"
308WIN fans are like the Collingwood football team fans of the gun world. I’ll never understand the obsession with a mediocre cartridge like that. Sure it’s ok... but it’s certainly not the best thing since sliced bread like so many make it out to be. That may be a little harsh but it’s also true.
I don't think many people see it as the best but good enough for whatever they need to do and cheap, available, mild recoil, good barrel life etc