The look of SIRUI's flares, and the changing of the squeeze factor as you focus is a deal breaker for me. I am grateful though that more and more affordable anamorphic lenses are starting to hit the market.
Hello Tom. This information brings back many memories (some even good). In the 1950's I was a projectionist at the local drive-in theatre. Our screen was not the proper shape for "scope" so it was a fun evening when we played a film where two characters were at the extreme sides of the image on the film. Funny to see the two talking noses at either side of the screen. Our local TV station played some scope films that were "edited for TV". That is to say they panned the transfer camera from side to side in an effort to eliminate the talking noses effect. This very distracting pan and scan technique is also present in early VHS tape recordings. Unlike the camera lenses you describe, the cinema projection lenses have two adjustments. Not only is the prime imaging lens focused but also the anamorphic element is adjustable. Those lenses had an anamorphic focus ring calibrated in approximate distance from the projector to the screen. Improper adjustment of the anamorphic element yielded fuzzy images at both sides of the screen. There was also a distracting rainbow fringe that occurred the farther the image was from the center of the screen. These adjustments were made by the installer and remained locked in place thereafter. Anamorphic lenses are still used in theatre digital projection where they do distort the shape of the projected pixels. Also 70mm film can be shot and projected anamorphic. The recent "Hateful 8" is an example of this process. As you can see, everything old is still old. KEN
Super interesting Ken, thanks for sharing! I definitely remember having some "pan and scan" VHS movies that always looked strange and as a kid I never knew why. I love the drive in story with just noses talking 😁
@@tombuck She's right. I think the times you end up laughing at yourself will shine through and allow everyone else to enjoy those chuckles with you. Combine that with with an anamorphic lens shot that allows you to track your face as you leave the frame and 💣💥 you have fireworks!
Hey Tom. I subscribed to your channel after I saw Peter Lindgren´s video with you in the desert. I really like your vibe. You are such a dork in the best and awesomest kind of way. Can´t wait to see more of your videos
Two anamorphic lens vids in my TH-cam timeline today: yours and one from Moment on their Kickstarter for an anamorphic adapter that attaches to the front of just about any lens. But, still only one degree of separation from the Arnold... I really appreciate your explanation of how they work and possible applications. Fun stuff and great for different looks (don't say cinematic, don't say cinematic...) in photos and videos.
yes! i have both of these lenses for my S5. a bit on the heavy side, especially that 75mm lens, but they are just so much fun to shoot with! i mostly just like the anamorphic distortion and just the overall look of them. lens flairs are fun, but for my taste it's about the wide field of view and the "vintage-y" like look they produce, yeah it's just very pleasing! well to me anyway! one thing i'm going to check out at some point is the Great Joy 50mm, EF, and with a speed boost, put it on my bmpcc 4k. that'll be fun!
Use them for photography and they'll really blow your mind:) Assigning a button to magnify can definitely help with hitting focus on these lenses. Peaking isn't always accurate on them.
Just found your channel two days ago. Your videos are just awesome! Just on point, very professional, but in a very pleasant and friendly way. And last, but not least, I love your wordplays 🙃😄
I bought the Sirui 50mm and 75mm for my R5 c from Indiegogo. Wish my camera had the de-squeeze to match the lens, but had to settle for a 1.3x de-squeeze so I could see exactly what will fit into 2.39:1. Soon as I got the Sirui's, a whole bunch of other anamorphic lenses were announced or launched (which is to be expected I guess). Not sure how much I love the very blue lens flare, but after wrapping my head around the math for desqueeze and cropping to fit 4K (off of 8K footage), it's definitely got a special quality to it. The calculator you mentioned has been helpful... it's not perfect, but it's definitely appreciated. I've used it throughout my tests to try and find the sweet spot. I also noticed the 75mm is nicer than the 50mm, but they're both super cool to play with.
These are the only ones I've used so I can't speak to all the competitors, but I've heard form friends that the cheaper ones feel, well, cheaper. I'm really impressed with the build and sharpness of the Sirui. The blue flares do sometimes look strange in a warm-toned scene, but I usually won't argue with blue.
Thanks for this video!! Been playing around with my apsc Sirui 30mm & 50mm anamorphics I just picked up and have been enjoying them! Just learning what some good framing for them, kinda tricky learning curve but super fun. Totally curious about the vertical anamorphic for TikTok! Thanks again!! (:
Hi Tom, great video, agree with everything, even with the degree separation 🤣💪🏻 I own the sirui mars set and it is amazing with the blackmagic 4K. Thank you for the video!
I bought the “Moment” anamorphic external lens for my iPhone when that came out. I’m watching another @Tom Buck video and my G.A.S. senses are tingling for a lens for my Sony camera now. 🤣 Thanks for the great informative content Tom!
Appreciate the actual 'what are they?' about anamorphic lenses. I'm on the fence about trying one out, but I like your idea of renting one first. 👍 And yes - everyone can stop saying 'CINEMATIC!' about everything they film. It's getting stupid. 😉
Renting lenses is awesome. Sometimes I’ll make a list of specific shots I want to sue a certain lens for, and then rent it once the list is long enough so I can use it for a bunch of different projects all at once or create a “library” of shots with it. A library of epic cinematic shots 😁
Friend, could you tell me about the GH6 5.8K / 4.4K Anamorphic, so it is written in Google, that is, when using anamorphic 1.33 lenses, if I write in open gate 5.8K, then because of the anamorph my resolution will be 4.4k? And you have a great channel!
Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, your question isn't an area that I have a ton of knowledge in, but I definitely recommend checking out a TH-cam channel called "Anamorphic on a Budget." He's incredibly experienced and the videos cover quite a bit.
So I’m dealing with the problem of finding a good lens to shoot real estate video with the a7 iv 4k60 crop.. pre ordered the 11mm 1.8 aps-c lens (have no clue how that will look but the math is there lol).. was wondering if you’d recommend trying out an anamorphic lens for real estate video? Or is that a bad idea altogether?
That's an interesting question. I'm not a real estate photographer, but I know that wide lenses (like the 11mm) are typically the way to go. It'd be interesting to see how a client likes a few anamorphic photos. Might be a fun idea to rent one and try!
Very nice introduction to anamorphic lenses. I have a technical question: 5:55 What is called the tree on which grow anamorphic lenses? Did you check the new Moment anamorphic adapter?
@@tombuck looool when writing the question I thought for like 10min about a pun but couldn't find one (not native English). You're just the boss with a degree !
Tom... Outstanding & truly informative video... Thank you... "Pretty Cool" joke "... "One Degree Of Separation..." Question: Is that rated in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
@@tombuck Thank you for the clarification... But I thought you might be more absolute about it since he did play "Mr. Freeze" at one time... Tom have a great day!
Wait, you’re in SoCal? I teach photo and video in SoCal. How can I reach you for a potential guest speaking gig with my students? If not IRL, maybe over zoom. 😊
This part still fuzzy to me. I still don't get it how desqueezing do not result in a pixel interpolation. I do not own anamorphic lens (yet...G.A.S) but I would like to look at an anamorphic shot of a white paper with a lot of perpendicular black points to see if they still perpendicular with no interpolation once processed and desqueezed.
It always depends on your personal preference. I love the 24mm GM, but 24 is my favorite focal length. I also really love the Zeiss 85. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the GM lenses. Expensive but worth the price.
The only reasons imo to use anamorphic lens is: *The depth of field. When you're using a 65mm 2X anamorphic ( like the Atlas Orion) then you're getting a FOV or around 48mm but with the DOF of the 65mm and the higher you go in mm the more impressive it looks. The massive downside is the close focus distance. It's always bad and I don't want to use dioptres and add even more glass on the lens just to focus closer. For me anything less than 2X is not " true" anamorphic because the effect you get is minimal. * The oval bokeh is obvious on 2x anamorphic lenses, anything less it's barely visible. Arri has the 19-36 T 4.2 anamorphic lens which cost over £120.000...
See this is a creative thing. I have never used one and have no desire to use it. I am not a creative shooter I am more of a technical shooter. T stop is better for sure. You were really heavy on the PUNS this week...STOP IT...LOL
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That one degree of separation joke was the smartest dad joke I’ve heard in so long
Incredibly proud of that one 😁
The look of SIRUI's flares, and the changing of the squeeze factor as you focus is a deal breaker for me. I am grateful though that more and more affordable anamorphic lenses are starting to hit the market.
Another great one Tom! Back to your roots. This quick tutorial is incredibly valuable. Thank you.
Love anamorphic lens. Dope to see you hanging out with Peter! That’s dope!
Peter is such a great guy! Super fun times.
Thank you for another fantastic video. Keep up the punny good work!
man its been 2 hours since i watched the video and i am still cracking up about the joke abut Arnold after every 10 minutes.
Nice! I'm truly proud of that 😁
Hello Tom. This information brings back many memories (some even good). In the 1950's I was a projectionist at the local drive-in theatre. Our screen was not the proper shape for "scope" so it was a fun evening when we played a film where two characters were at the extreme sides of the image on the film. Funny to see the two talking noses at either side of the screen. Our local TV station played some scope films that were "edited for TV". That is to say they panned the transfer camera from side to side in an effort to eliminate the talking noses effect. This very distracting pan and scan technique is also present in early VHS tape recordings. Unlike the camera lenses you describe, the cinema projection lenses have two adjustments. Not only is the prime imaging lens focused but also the anamorphic element is adjustable. Those lenses had an anamorphic focus ring calibrated in approximate distance from the projector to the screen. Improper adjustment of the anamorphic element yielded fuzzy images at both sides of the screen. There was also a distracting rainbow fringe that occurred the farther the image was from the center of the screen. These adjustments were made by the installer and remained locked in place thereafter. Anamorphic lenses are still used in theatre digital projection where they do distort the shape of the projected pixels. Also 70mm film can be shot and projected anamorphic. The recent "Hateful 8" is an example of this process. As you can see, everything old is still old. KEN
Super interesting Ken, thanks for sharing! I definitely remember having some "pan and scan" VHS movies that always looked strange and as a kid I never knew why.
I love the drive in story with just noses talking 😁
👏(slow clap)
The way you left a bit extra footage at 8:21 just made it so much more entertaining! Your timing was impeccable, keep it up.
Heather was telling me to let moments breathe, so I’ve been playing with timing more 😁
@@tombuck She's right. I think the times you end up laughing at yourself will shine through and allow everyone else to enjoy those chuckles with you. Combine that with with an anamorphic lens shot that allows you to track your face as you leave the frame and 💣💥 you have fireworks!
Hey Tom. I subscribed to your channel after I saw Peter Lindgren´s video with you in the desert. I really like your vibe. You are such a dork in the best and awesomest kind of way. Can´t wait to see more of your videos
Thanks Javier! I am absolutely a dork.
Such an epic and cinematic video!
🔥🔥🔥
Two anamorphic lens vids in my TH-cam timeline today: yours and one from Moment on their Kickstarter for an anamorphic adapter that attaches to the front of just about any lens. But, still only one degree of separation from the Arnold... I really appreciate your explanation of how they work and possible applications. Fun stuff and great for different looks (don't say cinematic, don't say cinematic...) in photos and videos.
I saw something about Moment, but that’s a complete coincidence, which is super strange since this feels like a pretty niche topic 😁
yes! i have both of these lenses for my S5. a bit on the heavy side, especially that 75mm lens, but they are just so much fun to shoot with! i mostly just like the anamorphic distortion and just the overall look of them. lens flairs are fun, but for my taste it's about the wide field of view and the "vintage-y" like look they produce, yeah it's just very pleasing! well to me anyway! one thing i'm going to check out at some point is the Great Joy 50mm, EF, and with a speed boost, put it on my bmpcc 4k. that'll be fun!
I'd love to see what that lens looks like on the 4K! And you're totally right about anamorphic lenses just being super fun.
Use them for photography and they'll really blow your mind:) Assigning a button to magnify can definitely help with hitting focus on these lenses. Peaking isn't always accurate on them.
They’ve been really fun for photos! Great tip with the magnify option 👍
Just found your channel two days ago. Your videos are just awesome! Just on point, very professional, but in a very pleasant and friendly way. And last, but not least, I love your wordplays 🙃😄
Thank you! It really means a lot to hear this. The internet can be a tough place sometimes, so a kind word goes a long ways!
Welcome to the pun intended channel 😉
very helpful thanks for this. I understand the lenses a lot more now.
I’m so glad to hear that!
I bought the Sirui 50mm and 75mm for my R5 c from Indiegogo. Wish my camera had the de-squeeze to match the lens, but had to settle for a 1.3x de-squeeze so I could see exactly what will fit into 2.39:1. Soon as I got the Sirui's, a whole bunch of other anamorphic lenses were announced or launched (which is to be expected I guess). Not sure how much I love the very blue lens flare, but after wrapping my head around the math for desqueeze and cropping to fit 4K (off of 8K footage), it's definitely got a special quality to it. The calculator you mentioned has been helpful... it's not perfect, but it's definitely appreciated. I've used it throughout my tests to try and find the sweet spot. I also noticed the 75mm is nicer than the 50mm, but they're both super cool to play with.
These are the only ones I've used so I can't speak to all the competitors, but I've heard form friends that the cheaper ones feel, well, cheaper. I'm really impressed with the build and sharpness of the Sirui. The blue flares do sometimes look strange in a warm-toned scene, but I usually won't argue with blue.
Hahahaha “only one degree 📜 of separation between me & Arnold” 😂 you got me on that one - made me laugh out loud…
That was quite a strong joke 💪
One degree of separation? 😂😂😂 that’s a good one
Thanks for this video!! Been playing around with my apsc Sirui 30mm & 50mm anamorphics I just picked up and have been enjoying them! Just learning what some good framing for them, kinda tricky learning curve but super fun. Totally curious about the vertical anamorphic for TikTok! Thanks again!! (:
You could be the leader in Anamorphic TikToks! 😁
Hi Tom, great video, agree with everything, even with the degree separation 🤣💪🏻 I own the sirui mars set and it is amazing with the blackmagic 4K. Thank you for the video!
I was just watching Mars videos earlier! Seem like super cool lenses.
@@tombuck They are!🎥😊
Vertical anamorphic is the way of the future... clearly. Gonna record like that 100% of time from now on. THANKS FOR GREAT ADVICE TOM. ;)
The best part is when people/animals get stretched the wrong way 😬
@@tombuck aren't flares vertical too?
I bought the “Moment” anamorphic external lens for my iPhone when that came out. I’m watching another @Tom Buck video and my G.A.S. senses are tingling for a lens for my Sony camera now. 🤣 Thanks for the great informative content Tom!
I just saw that Moment is launching a kickstarter for an anamorphic adapter that's supposed to work on regular lenses. Pretty cool!
@@tombuck I know, I’m gonna have to buy a lottery ticket for all the things I want!🤣🤞
Appreciate the actual 'what are they?' about anamorphic lenses. I'm on the fence about trying one out, but I like your idea of renting one first. 👍 And yes - everyone can stop saying 'CINEMATIC!' about everything they film. It's getting stupid. 😉
Renting lenses is awesome. Sometimes I’ll make a list of specific shots I want to sue a certain lens for, and then rent it once the list is long enough so I can use it for a bunch of different projects all at once or create a “library” of shots with it. A library of epic cinematic shots 😁
Cool!
Do i need the adaptor for my r body canon that they sell with the lens ?
Camera content is secondary. I’m subscribing for more dad jokes.
I’ve always wanted to get a 50mm anamorphic for music videos
It's so awesome. I'm used to 50mm being a bit too tight most of the time, but in anamorphic it's perfect.
Moment has a kick starter on there anamorphic adapter. Looks awesome
I saw that! Super cool way to have access to anamorphic 👍
Friend, could you tell me about the GH6 5.8K / 4.4K Anamorphic, so it is written in Google, that is, when using anamorphic 1.33 lenses, if I write in open gate 5.8K, then because of the anamorph my resolution will be 4.4k? And you have a great channel!
Thanks for the kind words! Unfortunately, your question isn't an area that I have a ton of knowledge in, but I definitely recommend checking out a TH-cam channel called "Anamorphic on a Budget." He's incredibly experienced and the videos cover quite a bit.
So I’m dealing with the problem of finding a good lens to shoot real estate video with the a7 iv 4k60 crop.. pre ordered the 11mm 1.8 aps-c lens (have no clue how that will look but the math is there lol).. was wondering if you’d recommend trying out an anamorphic lens for real estate video? Or is that a bad idea altogether?
That's an interesting question. I'm not a real estate photographer, but I know that wide lenses (like the 11mm) are typically the way to go. It'd be interesting to see how a client likes a few anamorphic photos. Might be a fun idea to rent one and try!
Let’s help Tom reach that 100,000 subscribers
Very nice introduction to anamorphic lenses.
I have a technical question:
5:55 What is called the tree on which grow anamorphic lenses?
Did you check the new Moment anamorphic adapter?
Ahh, that tree is a close cousins to the ficus: the focus plant.
@@tombuck looool when writing the question I thought for like 10min about a pun but couldn't find one (not native English).
You're just the boss with a degree !
unique
Tom... Outstanding & truly informative video... Thank you... "Pretty Cool" joke "... "One Degree Of Separation..." Question: Is that rated in Fahrenheit or Celsius?
Hmm, since Arnold is from Europe let's say celsius 😁
@@tombuck Thank you for the clarification... But I thought you might be more absolute about it since he did play "Mr. Freeze" at one time... Tom have a great day!
I love the colorful desk mat. Where can I order one?
I found it from a brand called GDBT on Amazon 👍
Wait, you’re in SoCal? I teach photo and video in SoCal. How can I reach you for a potential guest speaking gig with my students?
If not IRL, maybe over zoom. 😊
Hey! Always feel free to send an email to contact@himynameistom.com 👍
does the desqueezing in post result in any pixelization, aliasing, or perceived loss of resolution?
Nope! It's how the lens is intended to be used, so I think it's more like "rearranging" pixels rather than distorting them.
This part still fuzzy to me. I still don't get it how desqueezing do not result in a pixel interpolation.
I do not own anamorphic lens (yet...G.A.S) but I would like to look at an anamorphic shot of a white paper with a lot of perpendicular black points to see if they still perpendicular with no interpolation once processed and desqueezed.
any sony a7iiis lenses you recommend for videos and photos
It always depends on your personal preference. I love the 24mm GM, but 24 is my favorite focal length. I also really love the Zeiss 85. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the GM lenses. Expensive but worth the price.
I do wish they had a 24mm. I also wish they were closer to T2… can’t have it all though.
I've heard rumors of a 24 coming at some point, which would be super fun!
Just on thing, the height should be 62.5%, because you want to divide your width by 1.6, meaning the 1.3X would be ~77%.
For a 1.6 (or 8/5), you’d want a y-axis scale of 62.5% (or 5/8) instead of 66%
Nice video. 1.3x seems too less, but i guess it works for certain scenes. My favorite about be 1.5x at least, or 2x is perfect
The puns 😂
Can you just use it to take photos as an alternative to not having fui frame panoramic cameras?
I love it for photos, but it’s not quite the same as a true panoramic. But I think it’s a VERY cool result.
@@tombuck oddly enough, no one has come up with a true panoramic digital camera as of late - I guess because you can stitch images in post… 😊
The only reasons imo to use anamorphic lens is:
*The depth of field. When you're using a 65mm 2X anamorphic ( like the Atlas Orion) then you're getting a FOV or around 48mm but with the DOF of the 65mm and the higher you go in mm the more impressive it looks. The massive downside is the close focus distance. It's always bad and I don't want to use dioptres and add even more glass on the lens just to focus closer. For me anything less than 2X is not " true" anamorphic because the effect you get is minimal.
* The oval bokeh is obvious on 2x anamorphic lenses, anything less it's barely visible.
Arri has the 19-36 T 4.2 anamorphic lens which cost over £120.000...
🌹🌹
05:03 Sony EF? 🤔
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@@tombuck thought it might be a dad joke I didn’t get ☺️
I really really really want an anamorphic lens! Want, don’t need! 😄 And this video didn’t help me to not wanting one 😄
Punny !!! LMAOOOO who writes your jokes!!
I pay my writers very well.
@@tombuck you must pay them handsomely I like that energy :D
See this is a creative thing. I have never used one and have no desire to use it. I am not a creative shooter I am more of a technical shooter. T stop is better for sure. You were really heavy on the PUNS this week...STOP IT...LOL
I was actually thinking of you while making this because I know you aren't a fan of anamorphics 😁
One anamorp prime lense for FF = 1600$