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"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know, my single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live"
That was surely the best part for me in the whole movie. Eric always had respect for Charles even though their paths were completely different.
Reminiscent of how people spoke about Dr. King (who Prof. X was inspired by) after his assassination. Deep messages weaved in the X Men!
That was such a great moment!
@@EverydayWithBobby A fantastic analogy. Most people don't know or remember just how feared and reviled Dr. King was in the 60s. But Stan Lee would . .. and did.
@@qhal3570absolutely! Excelsior!!!
@@qhal3570 absolutely! Excelsior!
15:12 YES, Famke Janssen did an amazing job being Jean, she understood eveerryyyything about it. That's why fans love her so much and she has been the best one so far!
Interesting fact: The character Juggernaut isn't actually a mutant in the comics. He was Charles Xavier's stepbrother who had attained his abilities from a powerful magical artifact called The Gem of Cyttorak.
Wow i’ve never known that?!
doesnt it make as strong as the hulk and thor too cant remmember
@@inquisitordalius3388 Even more so i think. He's functionally immortal as far as i know. (by far not an expert)
More interesting fact, none of that is true in this movie.
@inquisitordalius3388 gives him 100 ton+ strength which is the same class as thor. he has unstoppable momentum which means once he's moving he can't be stopped unless he wants to stop. his momentum is magical so no amount of brute force can stop that.
in terms of raw strength hulk outclasses him (enraged)
"what is Magneto's range?" He has, in the books, affected objects in deep space while still on Earth. He has mad skills
Wow! He's so powerful.
The movie characters are very different from the comics. Magneto in the movies is hugely underpowered compared to the comics.
@@SirKolass Most of them are for budgetary reasons as much as anything.
Magneto is an omega level mutant, they nerfed him in the movies 😂
Claremont/Lee X-Men 🏆
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Jax: "thats totally Phoenix... Okay im loving her"
Me: oh, honey no-- 😭😭
Liking the character of Phoenix isn't an issue. Dark Phoenix on the other hand... that's a problem. 😅
Charles's first team in the comics was Scott, Bobby, Warren, Hank, and Jean.
The movies changed their ages for storyline purposes.
aka Cyclops, Iceman, Angel, Beast, and Marvel Girl (later Phoenix)
What a great team! I wonder why they changed things up for these films.
@reactswithjax mostly because Wolverine was super popular in the 90s and they got Halle Berry to play Storm.
@@reactswithjaxPart of the reason that it kind of started where it did was because they weren’t quite sure how well these movies were going to do. This is long before big budgets and the CGI was just finally getting good enough to actually make a movie like this and it halfway be believable. Marvel had filed bankruptcy because of expensive paper, comics not selling as well, aging fans and younger kids only knowing the comics, etc. They planned on making 3 movies and if you watch the commentary on the original DVD’s, they say that they all signed a 3 movie contract but they weren’t sure if they’d even make it that far. They tried to choose the best storyline they could that they could introduce enough to get people to watch another movie, but that was as true as they could “kind of keep it” to the comics.
17:40 Always loved the SFX of Logan going through the ceiling in one room and falling through the ceiling in the next room.
Yeah, that was a great scene!
@@reactswithjax I was hoping you were gonna see it. You are one of the rare few you WATCH the post credit scenes...and I didn't want you to miss THIS one. I remember being blown away when I first saw it. LOL
Bobby's mutant name is a little strange...you might not immediately think it fits him but it's actually kind of clever...his name is Iceman
Does he fly a jet?
"I approve of that ice machine man. What's Bobby's fake name?" Well apparently his middle name is machine.
I love the name Iceman!
@@reactswithjax Iceman is also the name of a mafia hitman who killed over 200 ppl
Should have been something like sub zero
Fun fact!: Dr.Hank McCoy/Beast in comics he’s joined the Avengers many times. In the film they’ve made Hank work with government, I think it’s kinda reference to Beast and the Avengers stuff. And // Another FunFact!: in comics Rogue can fly because she touch Carol Danvers (Captain Marvel) for too long and she get her Flying abilities and super strength permanently, And Carol is coma.
oops, so we already have a canon solution so we never have films with this annoying character again
more recent in comics now is beast is dead because Hank turned bad I have not read that story line but from what i remember of beast in the comic that is a strange path for Hank to have gone down. Now in the Age of Apocalypse in the comics beast is Dark Beast and for some reason i think someone wanted to try and bring that version of him to the 616
I can't imagine how dangerous Rogue would be with flying powers in addition to her other abilities!
@@reactswithjaxThe Captain Marvel storyline happens early in her character development. In the comics, her powers get WAY more interesting later in the comics because she has much more control of them, and can even sort of telepathically absorb mutant powers without touch if she’s close enough. To answer a question, yes, she can absorb more than one person’s power at the same time. Something else that happens aside from absorbing personality traits is that she does absorb some memories and especially trauma and painful memories that people have been through.
33:51 Her full name is Katherine Pryde but is more known by her nickname “Kitty”. Her X-men name had a few changes, she started out as Sprite by was later changed to Shadowcat.
I was always a little ticked off by Storm's reaction to "The Cure", especially when it was Rogue who was excited about it. "We don't need a cure" says literal Goddess with incredible power to lonely girl who kills everyone She touches. I mean ... have some perspective Storm.
It has nothing to do with perspective lol…you’re being unreasonable. Her stance is purely about loving who you are no matter the circumstance/mutation. We don’t encourage people who are born with visual defects to change who they are…we embrace and love them anyway! Same concept.
@@EverydayWithBobbyit absolutely has to do with perspective. Storm can blend in and live a normal life. Wanting a change for yourself should be within your grasp. Just because you’re able to handle the cards dealt to you doesn’t mean you get to dictate how others deal.
@@EverydayWithBobby A "Visual Defect" doesn't KILL everyone You touch. You HAVE to see things from HER point of view, and You're not.
This is their first attempt at the Dark Phoenix saga, in the comics this was almost 10 years in set up and massive in scale. for the movie it was handled well enough but the comic version was on a galactic scale and involved multiple star empires.
They messed it up twice. For this movie, which had a change in directors and other creatives involved, it was clear that they wanted to do something else but since Singer had already set up the Phoenix story at the end of the previous film, they had to do something with it... but for a good chunk of the movie and story Jean is just in the background.
@@nooneofconsequence1251 it was a frankenmashup for sure. I am a huge X-Men fan and was just so thrilled to see them in a movie that I look past the many mangled attempts at the dark Phoenix saga which would take multiple movies to even begin to do it justice.
and scott was more important than logan, by far.
@@davidjuby7392yeah the Phoenix is definitely a bigger threat than Thanos, would take multi movie build u0
@@kidCashOnline imagine if instead of the twenty movie buildup they just introduced Thanos as a B plot in one movie and killed him. that was how they handled the Phoenix Saga.
@33:47 - 'You get there first, Kitty... Which is such a weird name..." Kitty is a nickname for Katherine, which is her name. Also, technically, Juggernaut isn't really a mutant, he got his powers through magic.
just call her Shadowcat, best friend of Magik and Lockheed
Kitty is such a great character. I didn't know her full name was Katherine!
@@reactswithjax She's even better in the comics. Loooooong history there with her.
Juggernaut is a mutant in the movies, how do you think he lost his power near the kid? He's also not Xavier's brother here.
@@SirKolass I know he lost his power near the kid, that doesn't mean it was correct. Of the initial three movies, X-3 was the worst of them anyway, primarily because of story.
Yes, the mutant/human tension is a massive feature in the comics. The entire concept of mutants is an allegory for any discriminated against people group.
In the MCU, they created the Sokovia Accords to mimic the Mutant Registration Act, but they didn’t have the rights to mutants or the X-Men at the time.
The Sokovia Accords were a take on the _SuperHuman_ Registration Act (SHRA) from the comics Civil War event, hence them being introduced in the movie Captain America: Civil War.
Of course in the comics the SHRA was based on the same legal framework as the MRA, but the MCU's Sokovia Accords are not based (directly) on the MRA.
In the comics, Chris Claremont's "The Dark Phoenix Saga" (which was 'mined' to create the Jean/Phoenix portion of this story) stands as one of the great achievements in the genre. It took nearly a year of issues to tell, and "The Last Stand" is one of several attempts to film it. In the movie, Jean shows enormous power because in the comics, she was essentially power incarnate. The Phoenix Force, which merged with Jean at the moment of her physical death (because comics), was revealed to be one of the fundamental entities of the Marvel universe, and the story of it's possession of Jean is told against a galactic backdrop.
In the comics, Jean's dark side was fanned by a telepathic villain, who encouraged her to give in to the Phoenix's darker impulses. Jean gave herself over to the entity more and more, until finally, one night Jean/Phoenix flew to the D'bari star system and consumed it's star, wiping out the D'bari civilization on one of it's planets. This did not go unnoticed by the interstellar powers that be, and the Shi'ar Empire determined she was too dangerous to be allowed to live. They sent a task force to Earth to destroy the Phoenix. The X-Men fought to defend their friend, but in the end Jean could not live with what the Phoenix had done through her, and she chose to take her own life. She died in Scott's arms, who was at that time both her lover, and also not dead.
While "The Last Stand" isn't a terrible movie in and of itself, in comparison to the source material, it pales.
This franchise is also inconsistent, because Jean had the phoenix force in the second movie, then all of a sudden it's a split personality.
The first bit with Logan and the team is in the Danger Room, a holographic simulation training facility. The big robot head was from a Sentinel, a classic comic antagonist; they're robots built to hunt down and destroy mutants and are damn near unstoppable. And oh yes, the move that Colossus pulls where he chucks Wolverine at a target is called the "Fastball Special" :D
In the comics, Warren Worthington III, aka Angel, was one of the founding members of the X-Men, so it was cool to see him here even in a diminished capacity. He ends up in a devil's bargain with Apocalypse much later on. Also Pyro has to wear a fuel tank on his back with his little hand pilot lights so he can use his powers.
Also in the comics, the Phoenix Force is a fundamental part of the Multiverse, the focus of all psionic power and the spark of life that caused all universes to spring into being. It is the creator and destroyer of life, much like Lord Shiva from Hindu myth, and is a creature of pure passion and emotion. Jean Grey's part in its tale comes when she is dying in a space shuttle incident and her mind calls out for help, and the Phoenix responds, having previously taken note of her powerful abilities after she nearly died trying to keep one of her friends from crossing over.
And again, the Phoenix is passion personified, reason is not a factor when dealing with it, but the mortals it bonds to can exert their will and choose to prevent destruction rather than cause it. Also fire. Lots of fire. :P
Multiple Man is also a LOT more dangerous in the comics than shown here, where he's kind of just a comical macguffin to keep the story going. He can create a duplicate when his body interacts with kinetic energy. He used to be unable to control it, so if he got slapped or something he'd duplicate. Now he can intentionally snap his fingers or tap his foot to do so. Each dupe is it's own person, starting with his memories, but creating their own as they are apart from him, and he ("The Prime") can reabsorb them at will and gain their memories as his own. They can also create their own dupes, but are limited (kind of like making a copy of a copy of a copy). He can also kill someone instantly by putting his hand in their mouth and creating a dupe inside them, exploding from the inside :P
Finally, remember that lecture Charles was giving on the ethics of transferring a conscious mind into that of a brain-dead person's? The patient was his twin brother who, while in the womb, had his consciousness absorbed by Charles' latent telepathic powers, he sort of just overwhelmed his brain unintentionally. In the end-credits scene, he speaks because when Charles was blasted apart by the Phoenix, he transferred his mind to his brother, so he's technically still alive.
Too many film spoilers woven into your discussion...
I feel like we re getting to the deadpool reactions a lot of us are waiting for😂
Captain Deadpool.
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Yesssssssss. Jax seems so wholesome. I can't wait to watch her corruption.
@@thirteenthandy it's gonna be a fantastic reaction lmao. lamby will be scarred
So here are the superhero names:
Logan - Wolverine
Ororo - Storm
Bobby - Iceman
Kitty Pryde - Shadowcat
Hank McCoy - Beast
Erik - Magneto
John Allerdyce - Pyro
Scott Summers - Cyclops
Warren - Angel
Piotyr (Peter) Rasputin - Colossus
Thank you! I love all of those names!
This was the highest grossing X-Men film for 8 years.
Yet it's considered one of the most decisive comic book movies.
Brett Ratner replacing Bryan Singer as director was because Singer bowed out to do 'Superman Returns' (strange choice to some).
This one moved a little quicker than the first 2 films and upped the action (a la' video games and animated series).
Between Jean becoming the Phoenix, this new cure being made and Magneto staging a final attack to tip the balance did make for some goodness.
So much was cut from the film as the alternate versions of some scenes and deleted scenes are actually pretty cool.
Most of us following the franchise knew that this was the end for the moment.
Fox wasn't done and more X-movies were coming.
But last and not least, X3 did another milestone as the first-ever Marvel movie with a post-credits scene.
Juggernaut wears that helmet for the same reason Magneto does, to keep Charles out of his head. In the comics he is step-brother of Charles.
Also in the comics Juggernaut isn't a mutant but got his powers from a magic gem.
That is so cool that he is related to Charles!
@@reactswithjax Well, in an evil step-brother sort of way.
20:40 I also love the Logan and Rogue friendship, especially because in this movie it reads like Logan “zigging” where Charles “zagged” as far as attempting to control Jean/Rogue.
I love everyone from Fox's first 3 X-Men movies, which were perfectly casted, and I would love for all of the actors from the first 3 movies to play the official mcu versions of those characters.
With them all 25 years older, that's highly unlikely. 🤷♂
Well Pyro is coming back with the same actor
Still sad that Cyclop was killed off for behind the scenes reasons. It was consequence of the studio's displeasure with James Marsden, punishing him for working on another film simultaneously. Cyclops has never been done justice in the films but this film could've been a redemption arc for his character who gains strength from his hurt and takes up the mantle as team leader. The virtual reality danger room in this film was originally going to be built by Scott as a way for him to better himself but also the X-Men. Scott also just plays a massive part in the Dark Phoenix story the inspiration behind this film.
Thankfully X-Men 97 did massive justice to Scott as a character, so many people only know Cyclops from the X-Men films and understandably right him off as a pretty lame character. So when X-Men 97 came along these people were shocked at how interesting and badass he is in the show. Cyclops can carry a whole franchise and if the MCU wanted to they could easily make him the new Iron Man of the MCU whenever we do venture into the Mutant Saga somewhere down the line. Cast an amazing actor who is backed by solid writing and character develop and we'll have some amazing new face of the MCU. Cyclop is very much a boy scout kind of character in the vein of Superman of Captain America.
Basically X-Men 97 should be the template for a MCU X-Men films and we'll be eating good.
write* him off lol
I mean, considering his loyalty to Brian Singer and Brian Peck, I'm less bothered by his removal now.
@@Heroo01 CyclopS*, even more lol 😆!
What a shame we won't see more of him!
As far as I can remmember they killed Scott of so actor could be in Superman Returns, not the best of DC movies by todays view tho
The conflict between humans and mutants is the central story of the comics. That “cure” wasn’t made to help people that didn’t want their powers. It was made to wipe out mutants because of fear and bigotry. It was the worst thing they could do to Mystique, they stole her abilities, her identity, violated her body and took away her choice and they want to do it to all mutants. Basically genocide. That’s the entire point of the X-Men stories. It’s an allegory for marginalized people and bigotry originally created at the peak of the civil rights movement in 1963. So, no, people in the Marvel universe generally would not want to become mutants.
And Kitty is short for Catherine.
Fun Fact: Bobby (Iceman) is also an omega level mutant ie class 5 mutant same class as jean grey. He is very strong, he can be alive as living ice and can also exist in vapor or liquid form and is nearly unkillable.
Later storm and magneto were also added to the list, although mostly they have been near omega level (in movie lingo ~ level 4.5). There only a very few omega level mutants ie < 20 and most of them are telekinetic and telepathic so it's fun to see iceman as omega level considering people would think why would a person who just forms ice be one of the most powerful mutants.
21:47 YES! Well done! The reason he was a villain and not a 'Freedom Fighter' was that he was a Supremacist. Given his backstory, it's an incredible Arc. Mageneto was setting himself up to lead the 'Master Race'.
Movie One: "If you were really so Righteous, it'd be you in that thing."
Movie Two: "You're a god among insects, Pyro."
“But Magneto’s not really a great family” wait until you find out who his family is 😂
Kitty is short for Katherine. Her real name is Katherine Pryde but she just goes by Kitty. It's an old name shortening. She was introduced in 1980
yes and her "mutant name" is shadowcat, but it was a running storyline for years her trying to pick a name and never being happy with it. She had a neat little mini series of 6 comics with her and Wolverine that helped grow her up alot in the comics.
Just for the record, Bobby can't go home. His parents were shown to be nervous/ashamed of his powers, and his brother called the cops on him. His family is "nice" looking, but they still essentially disowned him.
That was Kelsey Grammer .You are going to love Deadpool and all of the rest of the Xmen movies. Always look forward to Friday mornings with you Jax!!
Thank you so much! I'm so excited for Deadpool too! ❤
"Oh you pissed off a fish" Almost spat out my coffee when you said that. 8:16 😆 That's why I keep coming back for your reactions. I have no idea what you are going to say that has not ever been mentioned before. And how does Cyclops rub his eye? 🤔
Haha! Thanks! How does Cyclops do it though?! If he has to get an eyelash out of his eye it could turn deadly really quickly.
@@reactswithjaxMy theory is that an eyelash would simply disintegrate on contact with his eyeball. 😅
Kelsey Grammer as Beast is such a perfect underated casting. Absolutely underated because you can't tell it's him underneath all that make-up.
That and the fact that there is an absolutely star studded cast that have become icons themselves.
Well the good thing is for the ton of us that were fans of the comics and cartoons who knew it was Kelsey, were very pleased
It's funny cause before this film there was a Frasier episode about a Patrick Stewart-like Shakespearean actor who told Frasier how his days of being a respectable artist were over cause he only plays super heroes now lol. Coincidentally Frasier found him at a Comic Con while buying X-Men comics for his son in the episode.
22:24 After what happened in the last movie, I think we can all safely assume that Bobby no longer has a home to go to
“This’ll be so cool for her character development.”
HAHAHAHA
With score of characters available to them, Logan Charles and Erik were the only characters they thought worthy of developing.
X-Men ‘97 perfectly illustrates how FOX squandered their opportunity (like Sony is doing).
Honestly that got a hearty chuckle out of me too!
Well you don't have to worry about Fox messing them up now! Now that there owned by Disney's I think Disney can do a better job messing them up😊😊😊😊
@@frankgowett8058 Well, my point is Marvel themselves will treat their own characters better than any other studio, including non-Marvel Disney.
:-)
It's such a bummer they killed off so many great characters. I was hoping they'd continue developing Jane.
@@reactswithjax Fortunately, Marvel will be doing their own adaptation of X-Men within the MCU. Then we all will get a more proper live adaptation. :-)
Okay, "you pissed off a fish" is going into my daily lexicon 😂
8:03 well the framing is "us versus them" with humans and mutants. Mutants are basically a different species and the humans are afraid of dying off to these new people
I am sensing the tension between mutants and humans is going to get worse as the movies progress.
Also in the comics Cain Marko, the Juggernaut, is Xavier's brother and is actually powered by the Chrismon bands of Chittorac ( not completely sure on the spelling) which is the same source of power that dr. Strange uses when he conjures his red ropes.
Class 5 is what they call an Omega-Level Mutant. There is no limit to their mutant ability. But Jean is also possessed by the Phoenix force. Which is basically a God, using Jean as a vessel. The Phoenix isn't really evil. It's just pure power and doesn't care who gets hurt.
I'm glad you liked Kelsey Grammar as Beast. It's funny because before this film there was a Frasier episode about a Patrick Stewart-like Shakespearean actor who told Frasier how his days of being a respectable artist were over cause he only plays super heroes now lol. Frasier discovers him at a Comic Con while buying X-Men comics for his son in the episode.
That's pretty funny!
The Scientist you said sounded familiar has actually been in a lot of things and even voiced some animation (her voice is amazing) but most recently I saw her in The Expanse (which has been my favorite role for her)
It is amazingly hard to spread a gas throughout an area and also have everyone get the right dosage for their bodymass, and in this case, power resistance. It gets worse when some areas have airflow, and others don’t. Killing gasses are much easier, and even then the right concentration is difficult to guarantee.
They destroyed Rogue's character in these movies. In the comics she was a saucy southern girl who could fly and kick some serious butt. She nearly beat Deadpool to death to make a point.
Storm/Ororo in the comics is MUCH more powerful than shown in the movies. Creating and controlling multiple EF5 tornados is fairly simple for her.
But compared to Phoenix/Dark Phoenix she barely registers as a blip on the power radar.
Kitty is actually one of my favorite characters in the comics. She’s basically like the X-Men’s version of Peter Parker.
Thing is Magneto, the Professor, Jean, Storm and Bobby are all Omega Level Mutants that makes them the most powerful mutants in the world that’s what omega level Mutants mean
Kitty could use her powers offensively if she wanted to. Wouldn’t be hard to phase a metal rod into you then undo it to take a person out. In an Xmen story she had to take out a brainwashed wolverine by phasing her hand into his skull and lost her hand in the process
James Mardsen who played cyclops the reason why he died so early was because he got offered a role in Superman Returns and he took it which is funny cause Brian Singer declined to come back and direct X3 because he went to direct superman returns. Also after this movie all continuity goes right out the window so your going to be a little confused the next coming movies.
Going into the live action X-men films when they first came out I knew Wolverine was going to be my favorite character since the 90s animated series, video games, and learning more about him from the comics. Following Logan seamed the most logical way to bring people into the X-men franchise who didn't know anything, and for those of us who did it was the best way.
I love your question about Magneto and his range. When he first started figuring out his powers it was visual proximity. Then he could feel metal for tens of miles. Finally in his ultimate form he was able to feel the earths molten metal core. So his range became 50% of the planet. Omega level indeed
Remember Colossus and Juggernaut from this movie. They're done justice in Deadpool's movies later on. Colossus was also in the last X-Men movie before this, he was the huge beefcake of a student that turned into metal helping them escape
Love the Deadpool movies but saying they "do justice" to Colossus' character isn't really right... they turn him into a walking caricature and cartoon... the goofy comic relief of the franchise... without exploring his character, personality, back story, etc at all. They sort of do the same to Juggernaut, too, even though he appears more comics-accurate than he does here in this movie.
I'm looking forward to seeing them in Deadpool!
Spoilers? Is anyone even aware of the meaning of the word??? 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@bigdream_dreambig ???
"this character you see will come back by name only and they are completely different than how you see them in this movie"
How in the world would that ever be a spoiler?? They're introduced in the first few minutes of the movie
@@Heroo01 You're revealing things that will happen in a movie that hasn't been watched yet. That's the very definition of a spoiler.
33:00 you muat have missed when Magneto had one of his henchmen use soindwaves to destroy the plastic weapons with soundwaves. So the X-Men were not under threat of accidental blue-on-blue friendly fire.
39:15 you should see Hugh Jackman in Van Hellsing.
Congratulations for your 60k subscribers, Jax! 🎉 you deserve it and much more
Hi Jax! Loved this reaction from you! I lost count of the many different facial contortions you went through at the end of this reaction as you started processing everything that was happening. I love watching you putting the pieces together and begin to formulate what might happen in the movies to come. Yes, Marvel does a great job at throwing a monkey wrench into what you think is actuality, and watching you unravel as you realize they’ve done it again is priceless. But as you’ve done so many times before, the way you work through plot points and theorize is why I love your channel! Oh…and just for the record, Bobby’s mutant name is Iceman…very fitting, and so cool (pun intended). Can’t wait for you’re next X-Men reaction!
The storytelling in the ending shot with Eric at the chessboard is amazing. Magneto got what he wanted, but it cost him everything he cared about. It cost him his best friend (they played chess together regularly), it cost him his powers, it cost him his love interest (Mystique), and it cost him his purpose in life. Great lessons to learn from it. Maybe it was worth it, maybe not.
Stan Lee who was the idea guy at Marvel had no problem coming up with names or powers... he had Jack Kirby and the other artists at Marvel create the designs...the biggest pain was coming up with an origin for their powers or abilities. So Stan came up with mutation as an origin. They were born with powers so no origin necessary. Problem solved. 😅
Kitty is a nickname. Her full name is Kathrine Anne Pryde. 😅
The girl playing Kitty Pryde also played the Earth-killer in the series "The Umbrella Academy"
Kitty Pryde has the potential to be a full density shifter, like Vision. In one continuity, she pulls a Queen Maeve on an armored transport carrying Spider-Man, who she was dating at the time. They thought they were going to run over her. Nope. She turned it into scrap.
This was before she led a mutant revolution against the United States government.
This isn’t the main continuity, but in the case of everyone except Captain America, Ant-Man, the Wasp, the Hulk, and Mr Fantastic, it includes some of my favorite versions of the various Marvel characters, particularly those associated with Spider-Man.
A continuity that technically no longer exists, both in a narrative and existential sense. We’ll probably never know what happened to the gender swapped Peter Parker clone who was that world’s Spider-Woman. Or the Gwen Stacy Carnage symbiote.
On the other hand, that version of Magneto makes this one look like Charles. No lie.
Absolutely lost it laughing at "Oh, you pissed off a fish!". FYI, Army combat uniforms use plastic buttons and velcro, not metal zippers. Also, you called it. Hank "Beast" McCoy WAS played by Kelsey Grammer. ON THE ROAD TO DEADPOOL!!!!!!!!!????????? Jax, you are a TEASE!
Well the kid wouldn't be able to stop jean completely, the phoenix force that jean has is not a mutation, it is an entity of psionic energy that resides in jean
I love your 'internal' monologue hahahaha, having to deal with all these ethical questions on the fly, while simultaneously coming up with tactical battle plans lol, love it! Thank you for another entertaining reaction. Not my favourite of the x-men movies, but was great seeing it from your perspective. REALLY looking forward to the next x-men movie you'll be reacting to!
Thank you so much!! ❤❤
I'm *really* glad you liked this movie as much as I do. Unfortunately, we're in the minority. This movie was so hated by X-fans that the next three movies work hard to undo virtually everything that happened in this one, which means this is the last time the series' continuity makes any sense. I own this first trilogy but I have no interest in collecting the rest (the Deadpool movies excepted). Not that I'm discouraging from watching further--each movie has a lot to commend it--just to adjust your expectations and enjoy them in their own right rather than as part of a cohesive overall narrative.
The theme of tension between mutants and humans is incredibly core to the X-Men comics in general. They are at the very broadest strokes a metaphor for how our society ostracizes people for being different, and often uses fear of the "other" to manipulate people, and subsequently use that fear to persecute those who are different.
Wow! Jax is dressed to the nines for this reaction! This movie got a lot of bad reviews but I never thought it was as bad as people say. I still enjoyed it and it was fun seeing classic characters from the original comics showing up for the first time. Kelsey Grammar as Beast was probably the best casting next to Patrick Stewart as Professor X.
I really don't think you wanna read minds, lol. Lamby can't help with that kind of trauma. 😂
The building Angel jumps from is actually here in Vancouver Canada.. and not that close to the ocean ;)
Don't expect much continuity between X-Men movies going forward... This is was before the MCU really showed them how to do it right.
Kitty's power is super cool! In the comics, when she's this age (if I've got the timeline right), she can only phase through and stay in objects if she's holding her breath (i.e. pulling Juggernaut into the floor rather than running through walls) although she does this really cool thing called "air walking" where since she's intangible she can treat air like a surface she stands on.
When she's older, she can rip out people's organs too. (in the more recent marauder's comic she phases a gun into a guy's leg and leaves the mechanism functionally in place so if he pulled the trigger it would tear the tissue apart) There was also the giant bullet thing.
She actually cameos in the first 2 movies as well (walks directly through Xavier's office door in X1 and falls through the floor/ceiling to escape the invasion in X2)
The problem with getting mutant powers is you don't get to choose. Also, Rogue woould need to touch Jean to steal her powers. And Jean's a telepath, so she would know what the plan is.
CONGRATS! You got through your first sub-par X-Men movie (it was Brett Ratner's fault). They get better again, I promise. First Class and Days of Future Past are both top-notch.
28:30 It's great world-building that Beast's "super-suit" is an older design than the others'.
Kelsey Grammar as Beast, Perfect Casting
He was so great!
Jean has her mutation but the Phoenix force is something else, a universal sentient force which was attracted to Jean and slowly bonded with her. The movie left this out completely. Also, in the comics the Professor did not die he was severely injured but at that time he was in a relationship with the queen of the Shi'ar Empire and she brought him back to her planet to be healed.
Storm is so insufferable in this movie. She's got godlike power with no downsides (in the comics, she was literally worshipped as a goddess in Africa), and she's going to call Rogue a coward for wanting human contact.
So funny about that old tv. They were showing how strong Colossus is but all these kids today have gigantic tvs you can carry with one hand.
I had a tv a little bigger than this one and when I moved out of my second story apt, I just left it there, I didn't want to even try to carry it down stairs LOL
Jean didn't die in the last movie, she transformed into the Phoenix
Juggernaut is owned by x men franchise, like Deadpool, but none are mutants.
Juggernaut was portrayed good in this, as not even the full force of thors hammer could hinder the Juggernaut forward momentum a single nanometer, "once in motion, things either crumble or is moved by Juggernaut" He is one of the most powerful entities in all of marvel, pretty much immune to anytype of force/kinetic energy, only telepathy and magic is his weakness....Hulk could become so angry and strong that he destroy the globe, but as long as Juggernaut is not in space, he will keep moving forward no matter how strong hulk gets, he is unstoppable
Wow! That is incredible!
i recommend 'First Omen'
The films never touched on it but the best relationship from the Xmen franchise was easily Wolverine and Storm. Would love to see this adapted when the MCU finally addresses the Xmen
The Mutant vs Human theme was actually a product of the times (the 60's) Stan Lee used the racial tension of the times as a backdrop, Minorities as Mutants and whites as the regular humans. He even added the desires of Charles and Magneto to illuminate the difference between Martin Luther King and Malcolm X. Stan Lee was a genius.
Dear Jax: Some things I wish you to understand. Magneto (Eric Lenshire) plays chess, and he's good at it -- it able to think a few moves ahead. He could forsee the possibility of either him or Mystique getting hit by the cure and Prepared for it. Magneto never abandoned Mystique -- he simply exploited the situation so that he and she could trick the president into sending his troops to the forest instead of Alcatraz. Think about it yourself and ask yourself 'What would I do if one of my people got cured'?
"What about that putz with the pigeon wings?"
- Wade Wilson 😀
Jean, Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, and Angel whrere the first team Xavier created in the X-men Comics back in 1963. Other characters like Storm, Wolverine, Colossus, and Nightcrawler weren't introduced until the 70s, with Rouge and Kitty Pryde (Shadowcat) being introduced in the 80s.
Kiti is "shadow cat". That's her mutant name. By the way I totally forgot or may have never watched the post credit scene - ' hello moira'
Shadowcat is such a cool name!
The uniforms they wore at this time were fastened by plastic buttons. Zippers and velcro didn't start becoming normal until around 2010
28:15 "Oh, isn't _he_ charming." A lot of women seem to think so. Earlier in the year that this film was released, the same actor became a regular on Grey's Anatomy as a doctor nicknamed "McSteamy." 🤦♂😆
I laughed out loud when that meme picture showed up when she was talking 31:47 good job editor🤣👍
In this movie Storm (Ororo Munroe) becomes the new principal taking over from Professor-X (Prof. Charles Francis Xavier) instead of Cyclops (Scott Summers) and Wolverine (Logan Howlett) becomes the new field team leader taking over from Cyclops (Scott Summers)
The ending scene with Magneto / Eric indicates that the "cure" is not a permanent fix, it is more like a suppressive agent which has to be taken on a regular base to keep up the effect. So everyone who only gets injected once will regrain his or her powers (Magneto, Mystique, Rogue and so on) unless the person decides otherwise.
What would be acceptable if the decision really was made by the indivdual rather than society or authorities.
She gave them everything and more ... funny how it happened to be misdirection.
The movie omits it, but you would have to suspect Mystique is still working with Magneto.
14:27 'This is going to be so cool for her character development'
Oh, how I laughed
I thought Strikers entire purpose was trying to add in and take out mutant powers from people (Deadpool). Isn't it odd that they did not use the anti-mutigen on the mutants they took as prisoners before transporting them?
If I remember right, when X-men fought the Shi'ar Imperial Guard because of Jean's dark phoenix, it was on the moon, the blue area close to the Watcher's base; in one of the "What if...?" comics (issue 16, 1990,i think) there was a story where Logan fell into the Watcher's place during the fight and the Watcher sent him to the times of Conan the Barbarian O-O some of those stories were pretty interesting and fun to read, together with the "What the--?!" comics which lampooned their own characters :D
Amazing and lovely video as always Jax 🐑💖 Hope you're doing well! All I am thinking about during this movie now is how Scott deals with hayfeaver 🤣I love your top! ✨
This is a good movie for people just entering the X-Men universe, it's a GREAT first step in a flight of stairs.
Does it have everything lore accurate? No, does it have proper power scaling? No. Does it introduce the characters JUST ENOUGH for you to get invested in? ABSOLUTELY YES!!!
"I wouldn't want paper airplanes just randomly flying throughout the room."
Out of all the mutants with dangerous/impressive powers in this movie, the kid who can slowly float a couple of paper airplanes is where you draw the line?
Yes, the running theme of the X-men comics was always a mirror of societal attitudes towards different races, LGBT and basically any people who are deemed "other" and feared / despised just for how they were born.
On the surface its an interesting social commentary but I don't think it quite works because many of these mutants are a legitimate danger to others even if they don't mean to be.
The cure is temporary. Charles put himself into another body when he died. So he is not dead. We see that in the end credits.
You’re absolutely right about Magneto wanting to be at the top. The comics have had several alternate universe/timeline stories(House of M most famously) that show Magneto turning out to be exactly the sort of revolutionary who becomes a dictator just as bad if not worse than the oppressors he overthrew. Also a quick explanation of the post credits scene where Charles calls the doctor Moira. In the comics, Moira McTaggert is his love interest.
You mentioned that the X-Men really feel like a family, and that's the correct takeaway. That's one of the major reasons why they're so beloved. The X-Men are a family, while the Avengers are coworkers.
In the comics, there are omega level mutants. Jean is an omega level because of her telepathy. Her powers are amplified to a massive (multiversal) scale when bonded with the Phoenix Force (a powerful cosmic entity). The Phoenix Force considers Jean as its perfect host. Storm is an omega level weather manipulator who can manipulate other planet’s weather. She is married to Black Panther and is considered a real Goddess by Wakanda. In the latest comic, she can wield Thor’s hammer. Bobby is an omega level thermokinetic who froze hell once and is basically immortal in his ice form. And of course, the master of magnetism, Magneto.