The Top 6 Most Overshadowed Pokémon
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2023
- Sometimes Pokémon are close enough in one way or another that people start to compare them or link them together, and this can result in one coming out on top over the others, (such as Pikachu or Charizard) however those poor Pokémon at the bottom still deserve some recognition, so let's see how certain Pokémon have become overshadowed in one form or another, because we know no one else will...
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Maushold is definitely not forgotten in competitive, considering Population Bomb. And its origin and is actually interesting despite its simplicity, so there's a lot of appeal there IMO
This being said, I can imagine that the move population bomb will be remembered more than the pokemon
Flygon got it the roughest. Salamance just keeps getting every single new gimmick under the sun _after_ stealing the thunder of pretty much every other Dragon that existed at the time, Garchomp was pushed hard to steal its formerly unique typing while becoming the mascot of one of the most popular NPCs in the franchise, and it didn't even get to make this list. #JusticeForFlygon
Idk… I don’t like Salamance and have had far more success using Flygon than either Salamance or Garchomp. Flygon is so popular that I don’t think we can truly say that it is over shadowed.
Won't stand for this Tandemaus slander. It's adorable, has a fun gimmick and isn't disgusting to look at like the Grafaiai line. Never gonna forget sending it out in battle only to think "wait a minute, there's four of them now- did they have babies in my back pocket!?"
Tandemaus is ugly.
Poor Flygon
I know, right! I had some time to shine is Sword and Shield until Garchomp ruined the fun!
God it needs literally anything to be good nowadays, a stat boost, a signature move, regional form, gimmick form or whatever else.
@@GoinGreninja give it Compoundeyes. It’d be able to have some gimmicks there.
@@RedDragonForce2Maybe. But what lower accuracy moves would it use that takes advantage of that ability?
@@GoinGreninja Iron Tail, Stone Edge, Dragon Rush… etc. high power moves that are only hindered by lower accuracy and no other downsides.
I think Zarude needed to be hidden in the forest part of Galar, and be unlocked post game. I think that would have helped a lot more. Made it cooler and something to go find after the game was over
At the very least it would have fit into the Isle of Armor but they gave it nothing...
Wasn’t the problem since Generation 6, Mythical don’t mean anything other than collecting. No more unlocking extra scenes and what not.
That would've been so much better than how it was actually obtained
The Zarude event in my country was so bad that I couldn't get it. (Call a stores customer service and ask for the code) And the one I got from Pokémon Go can´t be sent over to the main games.
Locking Pokémon behind limited events is an absolutely horrendous design choice and I wish they’d stop doing it
I actually like the Pidove line so much more than the Pidgey line, but I can't deny it's overshadowed
I do too. Pidove feels more unique than just "a bird with sharp anime-esque eyes".
The downside is that while it has strong physical attack stat, it doesn’t have good moves to take advantage of that without other downsides. Heck, it doesn’t even learn a physical high crit move, and it has Super Luck, which adds to crit chances!
I wasn't just being a jerk about Braviary being better; I legit forget that Pidove was ever there because Rufflet was far more common in later games like Alola and Hisui...
@@RedDragonForce2I wonder that too why give it a good ability and a good attack stat if is moves are more special based than physical based like heck why doesn't it have slash to use a good normal stab move with is ability.
The thing I dislike is his final stage is soo plain. I not saying they should evolve into a raptor but it should be more elegant. Like give it more tail feather or be a peacock.
A real life rooster is more coolerabd stand out more than that.
I've loved Maushold from the very start, and it was one of my core members on my Scarlet playthrough team. Technician-boosted Population Bomb is a MONSTER and despite their simplistic design, I think they're adorable. Their shiny form is objectively terrible, with the light-blue switching to a pale yellow making it near impossible to see, but that's really my only flaw with them.
I highly disagree with maushold being on here, sure its not found as an early route pokemon but it is pretty commonly found all around paldea.
Also shroodle isnt a rodent its a shrew, shrews arent rodents
And the pokemon company has now made a good amount of different tandemaus and maushold plushes. Also maushold is the first paldea pokemon that got a whole official merch line with maushold tissue boxes, socks, plushes, hoodies, etc.
Maushold is clearly a favorite with all the merchandising that it got and im pretty sure it wont be overshadowed or forgotten later on
The problem with Unfezant is it's shallow movepool. I used one back in the Black and White days it's a physical attacker that only really learns air slash and air cutter levelling up so you're pretty much stuck with fly and quick attack as damaging moves
Yeah, the one time wing attack would be the best choice, and it's not there, not even as an egg move
It did get Sky Attack, but of course that move has its own issues. It also got Facade as a decent STAB move, but there's no super effective coverage. Well, at least you could use your unlimited TMs to teach it Aerial Ace or Pluck.
Noctowl might still be the weakest regional bird.
@@lipika2841 Hey, no Noctowl slander here! You can run over Morty with that thing learning psychic moves
Unfezant is unpleasant to look out and underwhelming at best to use. Too many other better flying options in general and in game. Braviary, Swanna & Sigilyph have been my personal favorites.
Hot take: i actually like the pidove line. I love pigeons and i actually like the designs for both unfezant forms. Plus i just really love birds.
They're not Bad Pokemon, it's just been so disrespected that I've never had the opportunity to use one to grow attached. Like I said I couldn't even find one until after the first gym in Unova, by which point I had better choices like Drilbur.
Nah there letdown in gameplay and appearance
I rather he don't evolve and stay cute
Sucks for Maushold and Jynx. Mostly because I like using them.
Population bomb and king’s rock is evil.
And Jynx works fantastically with Incineroar.
Flygon even got overshadowed in this video!
Honestly alot of gen 1-3 pokemon could use either a new Evo or just a stat overhaul just to stay on par with modern pokemon stat spreads
To me the biggest example of overshadowed Pokémon will always be Simisear.
Imagine you come in a trio of pseudo-starters, a brand new concept and you're even the ace of a gym leader; but they made you a mid fire monkey. Not only you have to live up to the standards of Infernape, one generation before, but in the SAME generation, a few cities later, Darumakka and Darmanitan are available. You're not the best fire monkey introduced in your own generation.
It's kinda like Zarude's situation, but I think it is worse because at least Zarude has a movie and is a Mythical. What Simisear gets is bottom of popularity pools.
PS: I have no idea why Clobbopus and Grapploct aren't half water type. Honestly it makes no sense to me. And not in the way "oh, they do fish of different types now so it isn't boring". There were 2 other Pokémon with that typing when it was made and it is something that would absolutely be miserable outside of water; even its own dex entries are like "yeah it goes out of water but its quick to go back". I think it upsets me the most because it would be the only pokémon introduced ever maybe besides Poliwrath that would make any sense for Crasher Wake to use/have and it isn't a water type.
Clobbapuss is too dang cute and it is indeed a shame to not have the water typing.
I’ve had zero success using them but the line is very cool and I hope one day they get the buffs they deserve, especially after Journey’s.
I feel like it’s the case for all recent mythical Pokémon because they’re just handed to you and if they aren’t super good they get overshadowed and it’s a shame because recent mythical Pokémon are really cool
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Or maybe having a fire/flying legendary in the same generation where there's the most popular fire/flying starter (which was also more powerful back in gen 1)?
And don't forget getting demoted beneath Ho-oh right after that too!
I feel like clobbapus is kinda like a baby pokemon
It is astounding how many people still don't know it evolves into Grapploct, or that it's a Pokemon in general...
@@emperorcubone I thought that was like it's whole deal, it's a baby grappleoct
Imo the most overshadowed pokemon is Wiscash.
Quagsire has the benefit of being the first water ground type, and has a cult following due to its adorable derpiness.
Seismetoad had the advantage of debuting in the reboot gen so people who loved the typing gravitated to it.
(Edit) Gastrodon is also a popular one and my fav. Not the highest stats but gen 5 gave it a niche with storm drain that directly overshadowed quagsire (who had water absorb)
And not only is Swampert the most popular water ground type by a mudslide, but it was a *starter pokemon in the SAME GEN AS WISCASH*
Don't forget Gastrodon >.>
@@durk5331 The entire time I was writing that comment I had a nagging feeling I was forgetting one. Gastrodon is literally my favourite of them and I feel really stupid now.
@@AtomBacon awwww
@@durk5331 Gastrodon was part of the team I won the PWT with. (Transfered from Plat, not done with the dating quest). The other 3 were T-Tar, Excadrill, and Stoutland.
Definitely have to agree - and it didn't help that the episode about it got pulled from air so as to not remind people of real earthquakes that happened. And now that dondozo's around, it isn't even the best catfish pokémon, poor thing.
It's hard to find recent pokemon that don't remotely resemble other Pokemon these days sadly
Resemblance is not an inherent problem, just when they clearly have favorites that they spoil over the others...
I never thought I would see the day where someone is DEFENDING JINX
"Would you pick this bland mouse half way through your playthrough"
Me having picked this mouse half way through my playthrough 😬
I feel the same way, heck, I still use Maushold (I haven’t beaten the game yet because Larry keeps whooping my butt)
Tentacruel. It’s so cool but it being in the same region as Gyarados and Lapras has to be tough.
If I had to add onem it would be Barraskewda. Even though it is a fast attacker that is good for playthroughs, people will think it's not interesting because it's based on a common fish.
And also because when you try to traverse the water, they come at you like a torpedo, in both SwSh and ScVi.
I don't know, to me Barraskewda kind of overshadows the new Veluza because there's no reason it should have been in Paldea...
@@emperorcubonewell even lore wise they compete for food so I think it's fine.
Plus there is enough differences between them to make you think, one is a fast monotype attacker the other one has sharpness booster stab aqua cutter and psycho cut
It hard but difficult to make unique fish pkm. Even though gamefreak haven't try swordfish, saw shark, hammer shark, whale shark ......nvm gamefreak just don't try
The only reason I chose Pidove was because I wanted to switch things up for my second playthrough. But I only wanted a male because I liked its colors more on the final evolution.
Edit: in Sword. Still don’t have the latest games 😅
I’m sorry but maushold is the only one with the funny pop bomb
That is a good move, but it's on a mediocre attacker so it's not even the best it can be...
@@emperorcubone it gets technician as a hidden ability so it’s effectively a 300 base power stab move, even with its mediocre attack stat it still is super deadly. Also if it can get the chance to set it up tidy up is a dragon dance clone that removes hazards so it can circumvent its low attack that way. Sure it also dies the second something reveals rocky helmet but it’s a price worth paying.
To be fair, Stunfisk is hated, Jynx is something worse... CONTROVERSIAL
I want Flygon to get something, anything to give it a boost. Not because I'm a massive Flygon fan (I think its fine) but I'm so tired of hearing about how Flygon gets no love and all the complaining about it. Its gotten pretty annoying hearing about it all these years.
Haha, well if that's what it takes to get it done that works for me!
Brute Bonnet is also a dark grass type, a starter, a legendry and a paradox form
Good point! They covered all their bases making sure Zarude wasn't special!
And access to spore.
He got a movie lol
It is only a paradox form. It's not legendary (you can find a lot of em in area zero) and it's definitely not a starter since it's post game.
Unless you were listing off the others that overshadow Zarude in terms of dark/grass
I don’t know about the Moushold one.
I found one pretty early but I wasn’t super interested in using it so I kind of get what you’re saying.
The entire Pokémon company and affiliates probably feel it best to not do anything with the Jynx line to avoid any future bad PR.
They tried with Smoochem and that didn’t work so they gave up rather than reach further backlash.
Moltres got completely overshadowed by Ho-oh...
That's a good point; already repeating Legend types by Gen 2. I know it's a phoenix but still... Maybe it would've been Fairy if that existed?
Oof just completely pushed to the back!
I'm going to have to give a shout out to Togedemaru here. It had the unfortunate luck to be Alola's designated Pikachu clone... in the same generation we got Mimikyu.
And don't forget that you could only find it at Blush Mt. (which many players missed the first time) where you could also find Dedenne!! And of course Pichu was on the first island!
Right? Even the same generation as Pikachu got one of the first Regional Evolutions which is a call back to a well-known Pikachu gimmick "Surfing Pikachu" (Pokemon Yellow, Card Game, even Pooka in the anime) Like did Togedemaru even stand a chance?
I who forgets zeraura but remembers zarude
Zamazenta gif really overshadowed by zacian if that counts
Furfrou.
1. Single stage normal type
2. Introduced in a more negative than positive light.
3. Main gimmick is cosmetic only
4. Main gimmick is temporary
5. Main gimmick must be bought in game
6. Snorlax, a well known powerhouse, is RIGHT THERE!!
7. Gen 6, the most overlooked of all, sadly
Yeah... all those other points are incidental, but when they Force a Snorlax encounter like that before the second gym it really makes things unfair for Furfrou...
1:38 i almost said yes until you mentioned grafaiai. While they do have a rather bland design, i love their inspiration being those popular famillies of mice dolls and plus i can't lie their lack of a soul stares right into mine and their silly angry screaming animation does it for me but even with all that i did use grafaiai instead
Right; I'm not saying Maushold is bad, just that it was disadvantaged in every possible way in its debut games...
So true about stantler. I used a Wyrdeer on my Arceus team and I still don’t care at all about stantler. When I was watching the video I couldn’t even remember if it was stantlers pre-Evo or not.
maybe Zarude wouldn't be so overlooked if it was Zanice :)
Dad joke of the week!
I'm hoping they make Stantler able to evolve into Wyrdeer in the Indigo Disk dlc
The problem is that they're caught in a trap of their own lore. The explanation behind the extra evolutions in "Legend Arceus" is that they were only possible in the past of the Hisui region in the first place.
They probably won't do that but they might make another "Blood Moon Ursaluna" type deal with something
@@Compucles
Not entirely. Basculegion can exist due to it being the sole survivor of its school. We actually see done vibing in Kitakami
The fact that flygon hasn’t gotten a single new thing in 3 new regions with regional forms and two dlc
Wut. Tandemaus can be found on over half the map.
I do think you're being a bit harsh on Maushold, but the rest are pretty on point
I heard that Flygon was overlooked for a Mega Evolution because the design team just couldn't agree on a concept. Not entirely sure how true that is, though.
Saying Tandemaus has a “needlessly complex evolution method” is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard. It literally just becomes maushold at a certain level. It doesn’t even have an evolution screen
Yes, that's my point; they went out of their way to "change" the way it evolves compared to every other Pokemon, when it really is no different. They're trying so hard to make it seem cool and mysterious when it's just the same as ever, which is so transparent...
@@emperorcubone that’s not what complex means
Honestly, its for the best that Jynx stays in the background, given the history surrounding it.
Honestly I miss the old events. Even if you just cheated to activate them, at least the old mythicals were an event. Marshadow is cool, but it was just handed to me in a ball I don't even like. And most distribution events I do not even bother with. Didn't even know Zarude existed. Looks awful.
Yeah, it makes them not really feel special at all when they don't DO anything, and you don't even have to take the effort to catch them like a common Weedle...
I think the goldeen or seal lines could use some updates they've become overshadowed by modern water and ice types and could use regional types or new evolutions.
Yeah, those Gen 1 Water types really don't hold up these days...
Once in a while I use stantler in heart gold and find it suprisingly decent. it has nice speed and usable attck and special attack, and with moves like return, zen headbutt, shadow ball and thunder its quite versitile
Clobopuss is my favorite gen 8 mons and it sucks he's overlooked so often
I seriously forgot Mr. Mime had a regional form + a evolution. 😶
Maushold is not only found in the elite 4 area. Pretty sure I found mine around Midali
Obviously flygon is the thumbnail but it's so well known for being overshadowed it's almost not anymore.
But I agree jynx needs something... honestly I think it's overhated too, I've grown to like it for how good it is in Kanto games when you can't trade for an alakazam especially in gen 1 same for Mr. Mime tbh, but it should have gotten something in gen 4.... heck gen 7 would have been perfect for a hula dancing alolan form since it's already known for dance like movements.
Oh well if Stantler and Girafarig can come back maybe some more old mons will get love in gen 10 or legends kyrem
you can also find tandamous outside one the citys cant remember which but its no just befor the elite 4 i think its the grass city
“Making no noise and pretending she doesn’t exist.”
Was that a Harry Potter reference?
Ten points to Gryffindor!
🤣. Cute. But I’m a Hufflepuff.
In my opinion Whiscash and Siesmitoad are both overshadowed by Gastrodon and Quagsire as the weaker, less powerful water/grounds and I'm not even mentioning Swampert's status
Oh poor Whiscash never stood a chance with a Water/Ground starter!!
@@emperorcubone even with Dragon Dance Swampert is still the #1 Water/Ground in my opinion and my favorite water starter. Quagsire at least has unaware, Gastrodon has storm drain, and Seismitoad has poison point.
With so many Pokemon getting mega evolution, I'm still upset and angry that Dragonite didn't get a mega. It's the original dragon Pokemon line, and the first pseudo legendary. But it was shafted and ignored while Tyranitar, Salamence and Metagross all got their mega. Dragonite never got an alt form or region based form either.
That was almost solely for the item being named "Dragonite-ite" which is a dumb reason not to do it, but still...
@@emperorcubone
That's a very dumb reason. Just change the name of the Dragonite stone in particular lol. And it's no excuse to not give Dragonite regional forms. Especially when so many gen 1 have gotten them but still none for Dragonite.
It doesn't help that Game Freak seems to love Salamence more and they're both dragon/flying type.
Every Pseudo from Gens 2-4 got a Mega, Hydreigon now has a Paradox (T-tar & 'Mence too) , Goodra has a Regional Variant, but poor Dragonite? All its gotten is Marvel Scale :
Tandemaus and Maushold are literally my favorite gen 9 Pokémon. A family of Sanrio mice were too good to pass up. I didn't know they spawned at the League so I searched forever around the region. Love 'em to death and back.
Named them Jane, John, Johnny, and Janette.
Also the poison mouse just aint it. It's unnerving.
I just realized bro kinda sounds like he's reciting Shakespear 😭
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I'm pretty sure Shroodle isn't a rodent
Grafaiai isn't, but Shroodle is pretty obviously a shrew. Unless that part of its name comes from "shoe brush" which I would also believe given its look...
Poliwrath is the forgotten child of the politoad family
I actually prefer Poliwrath so this troubles me greatly!
For the regional bird, I’d prefer staraptor or talonflame, pidove evolutions are the worst designed regional birds
Hm, i see, i hope these Pokémon gets more chances in the future.
I agree Flygon got done the dirtiest for such a loveable pokemon. First time a dragon line was introduced outside of the pseudo line, but outshone in power by Salamance. Also in a gen with 2 pseudos instead of 1 and still didn’t make the cut. And then outshone by Garchomp the very next gen with the same typing, better stats and more loved. Crazy
I do respect Garchomp, but Flygon is 1 of my favs from Hoenn. It's the 1st winged dragon that I love.
Video idea:
Have you ever done a most hated or annoying feature/mechanic in a game?
Example for me was the Rotom Dex in the gen 7 games.
I have not done that specifically, it might be worth looking into...
@@emperorcubone
The idea crossed my mind while I was playing a copy of Ultrasun I bought a while back and talked to the director in the GameFreak building and he said about how fun the RotomDex was. I didn't think it was fun, I found it annoying. Like the Google Assistant app that keep on asking me if I wanted to use it over and over until I looked up how to really disable it on my phone.
I love jinx it makes me sad that she gets no love.
I mean, comparing Zarude to the Gremlins franchise instantly makes it cooler.
I love Tandemaus, Maushold and Stantler though lol
#1 really has always made me sad. I love that pokemon and its super good and fun to use. But for some reason it's never ever seen love. :(
Counter argument for Zarude, it had its movie as a way to promote it, and I personally loved that movie. It was great.
Yeah...Shame it's really not good at battling with its Grass/Dark typing. At least it looks great!
@@GoinGreninja I personally don't care that its typing isn't good ^^'
@@Oceane1803Fair enough to you. But it being a Mythical Pokémon, something that's hard to get and all that, it should be at least decent, in my opinion, especially since most of the Mythical Pokémon completely destroy it, like Volcanion or Marshadow.
@@GoinGreninja I'm someone who likes stories above all else, so I don't mind at all ^^'
@@Oceane1803 I like stories too, as much as battling. Shame that it being an event Pokémon of the modern day, didn't get much of a story at all.
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I was today years old when I learned that Zarude had a form change
I mean it barely counts, but there is an in-game model for it having a torn up sweater around its neck, which is so stupid...
Glaceon being overshadowed by both Leafeon and every ice type in Sinnoh. You can get a Leafeon as early as you get an Eevee in Platinum, where as Glaceon you get after three other gym fights at least, at which point you also have other much better ice types available like Mamoswine, Froslass and even Abomasnow. Not to say it's stats are nothing that impressive compared to the other eeveelutions that you ALSO HAVE MUCH EARLIER ACCESS TO. I never had any interest in using a Glaceon to begin with, but is very rough for the people that like this mon.
I just looked at it's stats, and they're much better than I remembered, but still, Espeon is a faster special attacker with the same special bulk, Jolteon is faster than all the other eevveelutions and hits pretty hard too, Vaporeon has a much better typing and is arguably even bulkier, and Umberon and Sylveon (in later games) are the ones you should go with if you want a defensive eeveelution. Guess that only leaves Flareon for competition then... Guess they're both overshadowed eeveelutions then.
You know, that's a great point actually; in its debut games Glaceon was stuck by the seventh gym, while Leafeon was there since before #2. Not to mention the vast opportunity for friendship evolutions or digging up all the stones to get any other Eevee form before Snowpoint. That is quite a disparity!
I don't think Maushold is overshadowed, since it has enough gimmick to stand out both in practicality and aesthetics. My pick for a gen 9 representative to replace it would be Bruxish.
"But wait, Bruxish is from gen 7" you might say! And to that I say: I'm huge into Pokemon, so it's exceptional that it took two generations after its introduction before I even noticed the thing. And if there's any niche that's even more oversaturated than early-route birds and rodents, it's the underwhelming midgame fish used to populate the Surf routes.
Honestly, feralligator is pretty overlooked. Typhlosion got their hissuian form, and meganium appeared in new Pokemon snap. It feels like the totodile line is just left behind.
It’s easily the best in battle so there’s that at least.
@@Rarest26 true, but since gen 2 and the remakes it's not really appeared in any major way.
I'm not sure Feraligatr has it THAT bad, however it is my favorite Johto starter so I'll always go for more attention!
@@emperorcubone in gen 2 it was the best. But since then it's been all but left behind compared to typhlosion. Heck, even meganium was a feature pokemon in new Pokemon snap.
Isn't maushold really good in competitive
druddigon could totally go on this list. pure dragon, doesnt evolve, and iirc you cant even find them before victory road, where you'll also be running into the much more interesting axew and deino lines
So true; it got WINGS! I know Dragon/Flying is nothing new or exciting by Gen 5, but at least it would be something!
No Pokémon is overshadowed when you replay theae games over and over
You'd think, but if they don't allow you to use Pidove on the entire 3DS that makes it pretty hard to climb out of the shadows...
@@fahadalzie5618 He means that if you play the games enough, no Pokémon becomes forgettable.
@@fahadalzie5618 Yeah, that's true. But that's what he seems to mean, for whatever reason. I don't know why he thinks that either.
Yea i totally disagree. When i first saw the Tandemaus on the map on that first Pokemon Direct, i knew i wanted it on my team, and indeed i played through Scarlet with Maushold. And i use it in competitive...sooooooo yea, definitely not bland or overshadowed
I agree on Zarude, and I would even add that "a monkey that is the King of the Jungle" was already Oranguru and Passimian's entire thing when Zarude was introduced.
I also think Flygon should have been on this list, it had it really good when it was introduced with that awesome typing (never forget it was released in a generation where Fairy didn't exist so to resist Dragon you had to be Steel and if you're Steel you're weak to Ground) only to be replaced by the cool Pseudo of the following generation, who is arguably the coolest and most iconic Champion's ace of all time and does pretty much everything that Flygon can do (except Dragon Dance) but better.
I thought it was King Louis from "The Jungle Book."
Maushold's taking the gimmick of combo 'mons in a new direction makes them stand out enough for me - I'd probably more compare it to exeggcute or falinks than any of the normal types you compared it to. As for shroodle, it's likely based on a shrew, which actually isn't a rodent, and instead a relative of hedgehogs and moles. Its evolving into grafaiai also might be inspired by tree shrews, which are closer to rodents than actual shrews are, but still aren't actually rodents, actually being offshoots of primates. I suspect by "rodent" you really meant "any mammal that's roughly smaller than a cat" but that's not what the word actually means, so I must nitpick when it's used that way.
I do agree regarding pidove, it and pikipek kind of got the short end of the stick as regional birds, considering that there have been plenty actually strong regional birds like staraptor, corviknight and talonflame, while these guys ended up being pretty useless by comparison. And yeah, it didn't help unfezant that it got stuck not even being the strongest normal/flying type for the first gen since gen 1.
I could pretty easily rattle off zarude's being from gen 8, probably helps that it happens to have the same first 2 letters of its name as the box art legends. It apparently is more likely based on a lemur than an actual monkey, which is pretty rare, so I guess it's got that, but I can't say I could recall what this legendary's legend actually is, so I guess it still falls flat that way. And I'll agree that its form change was pretty redundant, as I'd say most purely cosmetic form changes are. Though honestly, I'd probably remember this guy before zeraora, at least it's the 6th legendary in its gen in the dex instead of being stuck right in the end behind a cavalcade of ultra beasts and having one of the only 2 pokémon with a giga form from a gen besides 1 and 8 beat it for the final gen 7 spot.
Didn't think of how girafarig overshadowed stantler before, but I guess it did in quite a few ways. I always saw girafarig as being kind of forgotten itself, and thought it was kind of cool it was remembered and given an evolved form in gen 9, but come to think of it, you've got a point of how it kind of one-upped stantler for a second time.
I've heard you talk about clobbopus's being unavailable before its evolved form before, and do agree that was a bit of a weird choice to make it a de-facto pre-evolution when it was introduced in the same gen as its evolved form. That octopuses are my favourite animal yet I still often forget clobbopus exists really says something about how the developers botched this guy's publicity.
I wouldn't say jynx is overshadowed, as no pokémon comes close to its level of infamy except maybe porygon, but c'mon, no one thinks there's any problem with porygon itself, it's the episode it happened to be in that's infamous. And yeah, Mr. Mime and the rest of its line are kind of uncanny, but they'll never truly fill the chillingly shudder-inducing shoes of jynx, no matter how they try.
Videos like these miss something very important. It’s argued that sawsbuck replaced the deer niche, that’s it’s obviously better so why ever use stantler. Or that grafaiai is part poison so why ever use tandemaus. There’s a simple answer. Because sawsbuck doesn’t look like stantler. Grafaiai doesn’t look like maushold. A lot of people shoot for the design, not what’s technically better.
I mean that's a fair point but come on; Swasbuck doesn't resemble Stantler? It's basically the same thing, just glue some leaves on the horns and you're good...
@@emperorcubone how
Maushold looks like Miffy 😂
Tranquil's shiny is fabulous what you talking about? Plus Braviary is unova's fearow imo. Not every region has one but unova was supposed to be a reboot, which sorta would imply its own versions of kanto mon.
Also, Flygon was the pokemon that almost single handedly helped me beat pokemon white 2. Its teammates were vaporeon, zoroark, vulpix, servine, and braviary. But vaporeon and flygon really carried my team.
But Braviary already has a different counterpart in Mandibuzz.
no flygon? How surprising
Meltan and Melmetal are overshadowed, all the other mythicals have had main game distributions but they've yet to give them a main game distribution.
Mmm, I don't disagree that it makes them harder to obtain, but the whole Pokemon GO angle makes them pretty unique. So I could see it go either way...
@@emperorcubonei do agree. Still though, it’s a shame it’s not fully able to evolve in the main games.
Mothim better be on this list
I unironically really like the Pidove Line, and its a shame it's so overshadowed, especially with its shallow move pool and mediocre abilities.
Another Grass Dark type that overshadows "Darude Sandstorm" is Cacturne
I love clobbopus and think it was done dirty. I also think it should've been part water
Well, Maushold is a gimmick Pokémon involving having a few individuals acting as a single Pokémon...is what I would say if we didn't already have that gimmick as far back as Gen 1 with Exeggcute.
Well, at least Maushold actually has a gameplay mechanic tying into that gimmick (with its signature move Population Bomb)...oh wait, Mega Kangaskhan.
Maushold is kinda good competitively cuz of population bomb
The fire monkeys
Yeah, Simisear being made AFTER a far more popular starter did it no favors...
I don’t think jynx was ever meant to be part of a trio with magmar and electabuzz. She’s not next to them in the dex, has a dual typing, is not a version exclusive, and didn’t get an evo with them in gen 4. I think it’s just coincidence that she got a pre evolution in gen 2 and fans lumped them together
She's literally right next to them in the Dex, and all the babies are in the exact same order in Gen 2. That's not a coincidence...
@@emperorcubone mb on the dex order, you right, but the other points stand, she is duel type, and not version exclusive, and I will add that Magmar and Electabuzz have the same base stat total, while Jynx does not
"Maushold"
"needlessly complex evolutionary method"
evolves at level 25, how is that complex?
No, that's how regular Pokemon evolve, they decided to "spice up" Maushold it would have a gimmick for evolving where it only happens off-screen, which is quite possibly the worst evolution gimmick ever devised...
A very overshadowed Pokémon is Magearna. It's overshadowed by Diancie with its mega. I just find out a few months ago that you can get a Magearna via a freaking QR Code. That doesn't make it feel special again. Also its movie with Volcanion I had to look up. Volcanion is also overshadowed but at least had that cool Water/Fire type
I can't disagree, Magearna is pretty much "What if Steel type Diancie?" I don't think it even had a specific Z-Move, did it?
Flygon is an amazing pokemon.
I had Maushold and Grafaiai on my first play through how dare you 😤
I always wondered why Unfezant was so bad, then I recall randomly looking at it and seeing it's base attack stat of 115 and being shocked because that is quite good. It only learns special attacks by level up.
Shadow Lugia from "XD: Gale of Darkness" and Shadow Mewtwo from "Pokkén Tournament"!
Oh wait, wrong kind of "overshadowed"...
Flygon is my "Try to win with their favorites" Pokemon. In most cases there is a better Pokemon to choose--Garchomp, Krookadile, Excadrill--but Flygon is just amazing, and one of my all-time favorite Pokemon, so I'll choose it over the others if it's available. It is amazing to me, though, that for as popular as it seems to be in the community, Game Freak has given it absolutely nothing but a couple of moves since it was introduced.
I usually use the "Karen" philosophy of winning with my favorites. It, mostly goes okay...
I don’t feel bad for Jynx it’s not only the most hideous thing I’ve ever seen, but also racist so serves it right