Agroforestry in UK & Sweden - with Philipp Weiss, Martin Wolfe, Martin Crawford, Johanna Björklund
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ม.ค. 2020
- In this the second part of the film "Life within Planetary Boundaries - Agroforestry" (part 2) some of Sweden's and England's pioneers in Agroforestry explain how our food production can play a key role in restoring ecosystems, creating food security, new jobs and an improved quality of life.
Part 1: • Life within Planetary ...
Hur kan vi tillgodose våra mänskliga grundbehov samtidigt som vi stärker hälsan i de ekosystem som vi är en del av? I denna del 2 av filmen berättar några av Sveriges och Englands främsta pionjärer inom Agroforestry hur vi genom vår maproduktion kan få en nyckelroll i att läka ekosystem, skapa matsäkerhet, jobb och ökad livskvalitet.
wakelyns.co.uk/
skogstradgardsbloggen
euraf.isa.utl.pt/welcome
www.agforward.eu/index.php/en/
www.agroforestry.se
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Thanks so much for all that you do. I teach kids 3-11 about pollarding, coppicing, making cuttings and growing seeds in our Forest School sessions. Children need to know about the real superheros that are all around them. As Sir David Attenborough has said that “No one will protect what they don't care about; and no one will care about what they have never experienced”. That is my job to expose them to the wonderful species out there and show that there are no limits of career choices when it comes to helping nature sustain us.
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We’ll done. Good for you. This should be a main part of he school curriculum …. Every other subject can be taught from the basis of regenerative agriculture :-)
Tack! Så fint filmat och så mycket matnyttigt!!!!
What an incredible documentary. Thank you very much for the time and effort that went into putting it together and for presenting it in such an interesting and compelling way. Essentially, for all the benefits, globalization along with industrial investors shareholder earnings centric focus, have necessitated industrial level agriculture which in turn has destroyed the pursuit of large scale localized farming thereby creating an unsustainable food production system.
Thank you Nathan, I agree with you. ...I'd like to recommend you my latest film The Forest Garden at Rydeholm th-cam.com/video/FaoGlkrxyvE/w-d-xo.html best wishes! Maja :-)
What a fantastic documentary to happen across! I try to maintain a playlist of all of us doing agroforestry/forest gardening in UK & temperate regions, so have added this gem. Thank you. 🌳🌰
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Who doesn't feel happy looking at this bounty? This is truly the way forward for us as humans.
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Tack so mycket för filmen! Underbart att se så fina exemplar i nordisk agroforestry.
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Awesome video people
Så bra. Så fint
So nice. So beautiful.
Awesome documentary! Inspiring and informative!
Incredible! Thank you for this film
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Great documentary! Thank you for sharing. It is imperative that we all start working with nature not againts nature. It is wonderful to see people having a respecful relationship with the land. This is how I was tought to grow food from my Grandparents, then parents and now I am starting new in my piece of land.
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Incredible film! I loved it, thank you for making this. Keep up the important work!
Thank you SummerSwedish! ❤️ Please share it if you like.
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm Beautifully made movie and came out in Jan. 2020. Just as the virus was about to hit the world and people became more aware of food security .
Philipp Weiss sounds "Geoff Lawton school" ;)
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Excellent documentary and so much useful knowledge to spread. Thank you.
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Bautiful and also: well explained for people who knew nothing about the carbon cycle or permaculture, how does that not have more views.
Tack så mycket för ett fantastisk film. Regenerativ jordbruk är framtiden och många av oss kommer att jobba med det!
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Wonderful film. Thank you 💖
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thank you for this film. is very inspiring. cheers from argentinian forest gardens :)
Thank you! Wow, argentinian forest gardens, would love to see them sometime. Best wishes!
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An inspiring film, thank you.
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Obrigado por este documentário. Thank you for uploading this doc! Visionary. Grettings from Portugal!
Thank you! If I had the possibility to film agroforestry systems in southern Europe, I'd include the portuguese agro-ecosystem The Montados region, a very interesting example of a multifunctional system, combining selective thinning and low-density cultivation of cork oak trees without destroying the ecosystem around it. As well as serving as pasture for both domestic and wild animals, with, as I understand, a great wild collection of flora, fauna and endangered species.
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm Sadly Montado is in peril. Around Alqueva hydrographic basin there are plenty of intensive monoculture olive farms. I advice you visit Castro Verde area. There Montado is well preserved
@ I see... sad to hear. Thank you for the advice.
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Some big swedish insight in this one. Its something I rarely say. But it feels good ;) Greetings from Denmark
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Complimenti per il documentario. è ciò che serve in questo momento: adattarsi alla natura e non adattare la natura all'uomo
Grazie Matteo! 😍
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I liked your way of defining permaculture - it cuts to the chase of what we should be aiming for
lovely video and capture of great work done by leaders in the food forest field
Thank you WorkSmith! All the best, Maja
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A wonderful and important film.
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Tack so mycket!
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Great doc! Regards from Brazil
Many thanks! Regards from Sweden/Maja
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Very informative
There are lands in my family that have been used for forestry and farming but are in neither use right now due to that generation having passed. If I ever inherit even a part of them, it would be such a dream to just allow a number of permaculture, agroforestry & rewilding researchers and enthusiasts to run wild there to use them and care for them. Hälsningar from Finland!
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En dejlig dokumentar at se
Håber der er nogle landmænd i Danmark der kan blive inspireret
Hej Charlie! Danmark är på G :-) Hälsning, Maja issuu.com/okologidk/docs/skovlandbrug_b78dd1a2469b30
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great info!
Thank you
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Probably will make same agroforestry work in Poland soon.
Would love that movement to hit my home country, too. I live in the Netherlands but have been dreaming of going back home and make my little homestead. Idyllic dream, I know but who knows maybe it will happen.
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visst jätte bra film men Jag hoppas att SVT visar också till allmänheten. Vi som är frälsta vet redan en hel del om detta.
Rafael, när man gör film vill man alltid nå ut till fler än "de redan frälsta" med SVT/UR har tackat nej till att köpa in den/programidén. Att filmen når ut (och till vem) hänger därför på engagerade och vänliga människor som väljer att dela och sprida den i sin vänkrets. :-)
28:15 Oyster leaf (allegedly delicious) and 25:22 a perennial called Fuki. Looks a bit like rhubarb, the stems are the vegetable that is cultivated in Japan. They are cooked and peeled (then the skin comes off easily). It is very easy to harvest, has an aromatic taste, the huge leaves can be mulch and obviously it grows like weed in half shadow.
How have we never heard of those things? If it grows in the UK or Sweden there are many countries in central Europe where it can grow. Maybe with a little straw for winter as mulch if it is not very frost hardy.
Oyster leaves ARE incredibly delicious :-)
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm Thanks, let's see if they can be grown in Austria, and that Fuki "rhubarb" style thing also looks interesting.
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm I recommend that pdf (it is not a long read) because I did not realize what soil is (minerals = varying degrees of sand, silt or clay held together by humus = carbon). And that the soil carbon cycle is NOT in balance (where intake of CO2 would more or less equal the oxydation when the biomass decomposes).
Indeed there has been a sequestretation of carbon / humus over the course of eons.
We can see it, it is the dark color that we intuitively associate with fertile soil.
It is possible that humans could intentionally further that process, but at least not messing with it (fertilzer, herbicides, pesticides, naked soil, poor water management of rainwater, excessive irrigation with water underground causing salination) would go a long way.
and that seqestering can be achieved by farmers - typically small farmers and homesteaders. Larger farmers that use cover crops, green manure and avoid tilling (which is an improvement) often use herbicides like Glyphosate, because terminating the cover crop reliably and creating the conditions for the next ANNUAL is tricky. They see some benefits already but not to the full extent.
and unlike the industral style sequestering there would be MANY beneftis and no risks (CO2 escaping from the deep underground, accidents when they do the work, the use of resource to build those factories, that are ugly and only have ONE benefit).
Regenerative farming also need a leg up (or their would be buying budgets for citizens so they can easily afford those higher priced foods). But the subsidies are modest, and we would would get so much more benefits.
No grand industrial style schemes needing big investors, lots of subsidies, creating relatively little employment. The "Tech" already exists ;)
It is telling that they now come up with these grande schemes and ideas for one dimensional fixes. building factories that have no other purpose than catching carbon out of the air. Putting liquified carbon (energy ! need to even liquify it) very deep into the underground.
Of course those schemes are meant to be profitable for the "investors" who are innovative, entrepreneurial and whatnot (while making sure they get the subsidies to drastially reduce their risks). Of course a fix that includes humble farming and homesteading is not as sexy.
The very mindset that got us into trouble (for profit and relying on big biz) in the first place.
That's not the correct application of Geoff Lawton's: "The problem is also the solution" ;)
The statement of Dr. Jones that the current math on carbon / soil building and sequestration rate is ONLY accurate for the _currently_ existing industrial style, hostile-to-soil-life agriculture is highly important.
She says that the rates are much higher with regnenerative ways of farming (imitating natural eco systems).
Never mind all the other beneficial side effects of humus producing farming and ranching.
There are all kinds of schemes for sequestering liquid CO2 in the deep underground also UNDER the ocean ground (under allegedly impermeable layers) etc.
But if the currently accepted carbon model and ideas about soil building do not capture the most important and the _most efficient_ mechanism - then there will be no political / public pressure to go for the multi layered humble solution that has a LOT of beneficial side effects. And is ready for use, as it is already tested.
Creating employment in RURAL areas, dignified work
Avoiding to funnel even more people into the large cities (in the U.S. and many other regions they are near the coasts, in the future land inwards will be safer
Rural = avoided traffic
Beautiful landscapes
Changing the regional climate, water evaporation rates, breaking the wind
Bio diversity and recovery for insects
Becoming more resilient against extreme temperatures
Recharging water tables
Draught / fire (Australia, California !) / flood proving regions
Getting nutrient rich food, avoiding the costs and pollution associated with long transports.
That way of thinking might also spill over into industrial production, construction, ... and the population becoming more aware of the concept of sustainability in general.
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm I hope your settings allow links - else here is the link in youtube friendly form with some extra blanks:
JONES-LiquidCarbonPathwayUnrecognised_AFJ-July08_.doc - JONES-LiquidCarbonPathway(AFJ-July08) (dot) pdf
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Awesome
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incredibly insightful documentary, well explained and thoroughly enjoyed. Could anyone point me in the direction of the book Phillip Weiss had in his section about agroforestry design?
Thank you Eric!! The book is really fantastic, 462 pages (!) and written by Philipp Weiss & Annevi Sjogren (2018, Adlibris, swedish) www.adlibris.com/se/bok/skogstradgarden-odla-atbart-overallt-9789163932502
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm thank you! appreciate the speedy response, but unfortunately there is no english copy of it. Does not matter, though! thanks again
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keep it up, nice movie
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That was a beautiful film! Does anyone know what the plant being harvested with glaucous leaves is at 28:15 ?
Oysterleaf/Oysterplant! Leaves taste of oysters, delicious :-)
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm Thanks so much! I haven't heard of that one yet. Hopefully I'll be able to try eating and/or growing it eventually.
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What was the little cover plant called with the yellow flowers? First the man showed Lucerne and the other one is?... want to use that combi! All the best
Birdsfoot trefoil :o
It's called Bird's-foot trefoil www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife-explorer/wildflowers/common-birds-foot-trefoil
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No-till instantly solves the problems you associate with annual crops.
What is the spacing between the rows of trees? How wide is the plantable space in the alleys? I am going to develop several acres into agro forestry this year and I am wondering if 9.5 meters between rows of trees is enough.
Hi! I hope you can find the answer to that and much more in this PDF by Organic Research Centre / Woodland Trust (2020) agricology.co.uk/resources/wakelyns-agroforestry-resilience-through-diversity
Ask questions / visit Wakelyns farm: wakelyns.co.uk/
Jätte intressant! Måste bara fråga iom att jag tänker ansöka till agroforestry utbildning i Göteborg på Angereds gård, var får man lättast jobb inom agroforestry? Vem kan tänkas anställa en eller måste man ha en egen gård? Tack för en bra video.
Jag tänker att din drivkraft att utbilda dig inom agroforestry är det viktigaste! Ett jättebra beslut oavsett om du vill ha en anställning eller egen gård, eller både och. Du kommer säkert komma i kontakt med personer genom utbildningen som kan tipsa dig vidare. Lycka till!
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm Tack för ett bra svar :)
By trees and shrubs do you mean perennial vegetation or woody vegetation?
Agroforestry or food forests, myself are going to create the food forest, like this film professional very short introduction films should actually be made for a few minutes. The world turns fast people have little time, just like an advertising message you should email with short films that people en masse to, for example, all gardeners and agricultural farmers, gardeners, garden companies, etc. awareness campaigns this will speed up the process of Agroforestry or food forests!
Humanity's success is due to modern agriculture. Back to agroforestry is unfortunately not possible with so many spoiled people. There are already not enough people available for the harvest. So with the current way of life you can completely forget about agro-forestry. It's a shame because it really appeals to me.
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I am very iuplifted by the large row ans orchards, it seeems the only thing presented that can bring large quantities of grain and root crops etc. The other things, berries, and vegetables, bring in the vitamines, sure but can’t be a complete diet and are seasonal.
Hi! Livestock grazing (and hunting) in silvopastoral systems are vital for a complete diet from agroforestry in northern Europe. A huge variety of off perennial and seasonal crops are also needed, as well as foraging wild berries, muchrooms, nuts etc. (This year I collected 23 kg of walnuts in south of Sweden from 3 trees in public places :-)) Part 3 of an audio interview with Martin Wolfe/Wakelyns about wildlife attracted to his system and the collaboration with a local hunter: th-cam.com/video/MCbm5gr-4vI/w-d-xo.html
www.agforward.eu/index.html
There are more sustainable farming like no till, using fermented additives instead of industrial fertilizers.
The soil between the lines of trees is still being tilled by heavy machinery which compacts the soil, destroys the healthy soil structure and the mycorrhiza inside it.
Hi! Yes, that's right. But the example of Wakelyns would be a good way to start for a cereal or vegetable farmer, who might wish to slowly introduce more and more perennials and less/no digging methods. Martin Wolfe, interviewed in the film was very much aware of the importance of mycorrhiza and of a fossil energy independent foodproduction, and mentioned Martin Crawford's forestgarden as an example of a more resilient system.
The machine doesn't look very heavy, assuming that the soil is dry enough it should not cause compaction
When I grow up I want to be her
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A land aquvalent ratio of 1.3 That's astonishing. But the conventional Agricultur is telling us, that we don't have enough land to do biological agriculture.
Agroforestry can be an efficient land use that is capable of producing more goods on a given area of land than traditional systems - the several vegetation layers in agroforestry systems can use sunlight, water and nutrients more efficiently than the single layers of monocultural crops.
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29.02 "Pigs and poultry cannot eat grass". Since when? That's just completely and utterly incorrect and a very bizarre thing for an agronomist, scientist and senior university lecturer to say. Maybe she's never actually got her hands dirty keeping pigs and poultry.
Very good film apart from that though.
Thank you for noticing this. Chickens and pigs do eat pasture and grass, and it's an important part of their diet keeping them healthy and improving their gut health, as I understand. I guess what she intended was that they don't live on it alone, they can't survive on a diet of just pasture. Maybe that's not totally true, please contact me if you know about pig species that do live 100% on pasture, I have heard there might be some, I'd like to learn more about it.
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm kunekunes are the only breed of pig that can live "almost entirely" on plant matter that I am aware of. There are heritage breeds that can live "almost entirely" on forage, but straight grass isn't the same as forage. It's important to note that kunekune grow incredibly slowly. And Never break 150lbs without being obese and primarily grain fed. And their litters are less than 10 on average, as opposed to other breeds that regularly throw litters of 12-18 and easily reach 200lbs in 6 months.
@@henrystokes1987 Interesting! Thanks for this info. They look a bit like "Linderödsvin", a rare breed of pig indigenous to Skåne’s Linderöd Ridge in the south of Sweden. (Where I live) I think The Linderöd pig could be be perfect to integrate in an agroforestry system. (like this system in Denmark hestbjerg.dk/dyrevelfaerdsmaerket/) The Linderöd is well adapted to our climate, low maintenance, giving birth naturally, outdoor bred, high welfare, great flavour and not industrial. As they used to be kept half the year in the forest, it was inevitable that the domestic and wild animals mated. So, for a long time, the line between domestic and wild pigs (wild boar) was blurred. They also grow slowly and gives around 7 litters on average. www.fondazioneslowfood.com/en/ark-of-taste-slow-food/linderod-pig/
@@agroforestry_paradigmshiftfilm pigs used to eat acorns and roamed the forests, while being only semi domesticated. In fall people would attract them with food so they came back - and had fattened up and were ready to be slaughtered. Pigs, cows and goats can pick up apples, pears and plumes that are overly ripe, fell to the ground and are not good for human consumption or canning anymore.
They also like cooked potatoes - or other starchy things (and food waste from humans of course). But they likely also eat slugs, insects, so if one breeds black soldier larvae or meal worms the pigs would eat that protein as well.
And can also be used to eat the rest of buttermilk and sour milk if a family has a (small) cow. The guy from Homesteady is quite in love with his mini Jersey cow, has only good things to say about his (only that they are more expenisive when considering the output. On the other hand they can make do with less pasture and the investment is worth the while.
They are smaller, and it is possible to milk them less for a few days and then to resume production, a normal dairy cow would not respond wel to that.
They are also very docile, respect the fence if they are a little trained, so they are ideal for remote homesteaders, you do not have to shop for fresh milk. And if you make your own butter you can use a pig to put the buttermilk to good use.
I think one technique to clear a site of weeds (that are very persistant). Clear it as good as you can, then plant Jerusalem artichoke / Topinambur. They grow like weed. do not spoile them with care (the only problem is to prevent that they go rogue after the action and take over other areas that cannot be pulled apart by pigs).
In fall foraging pigs can dig them up, they will make short work of all deep rooted weeds while they try to get out all the bulbs. And have fun doing that (John Seymour an out of the box homesteader in the UK stumbled upon that method, his book was quite popular in the 1970s).
Anyone notice Albert Einstein?
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Conventional farming (clear-cutting forests and plowing up everything) is the worst environmental culprit. Extremely bad for any environment.
So you intend to produce less food, or you need times more land to produce enough food for the population, or you reduce the population, you don't address these important issues, agro forestry is a fantastic idea but not practical to feed the worlds population, I think the green targets that governments have agreed to need to be looked at more thoroughly, they don't affect the politicians and buying carbon credits needs to be abolished, that little perk just means the wealthy carry on as normal and the rest of us suffer, zero emissions is not practical, even to build a wind turbine you leave a carbon foot print,may be turning off the air con in government and parliment buildings, removing the electric lights, de commissioning the ch systems in government buildings, making them use public transport you know the nonexistent one they want us all to use instead of flying everywhere first class or in private jets, would be a good start and make them realise what they have agreed to is not practical, there are solutions to reducing carbon but they cost money