Once Upon a Time in the West - Renegade Cut
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Hands down the finest Western ever made, and one of the greatest movies, of any genre, of all time! The opening scene at the station could have been a spectacular short film just on it's own. Absolute masterpiece!
You could also make a self-contained short film out of the final showdown between Bronson and Fonda.
I kinda want to see Tom Hanks play a slasher now
He did throw a guy of a roof in 'Atlas Cloud'.
Redem10 I'd say that I want to see him play an irredeemable bastard, like Frank.
He also spent the most of the movi trying to poison another guy
Next best thing? Watch 'insomnia'. Robin Williams plays a hella convincing murderer.
Redem10 hahaha, you make me laugh so hard. I was thinking the same but of another actor, ryan gosling
This is my favorite movie of all time! So glad you did a video on it!
Fun fact:
The three gunmen at the train station were originally supposed to be played by Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, and Eli Wallach, further cementing the "farewell" to the Wild West that Leone was giving.
Van Cleef and Wallach, I believe, agreed. Eastwood however was no longer interested in working for Leone for some reason, and so Leone dropped the idea altogether.
Damn, that would be really cool if they pulled it off.
Mulvi747 Aside from watching Clint Eastwood actually be killed onscreen, it definitely would have.
It would have been much more bitter sweet, I basically grew up in italy with these movies, even then "the good, the bad and the ugly" were one of my favorite movies, seeing them slaughtered at the beginning, would have shocked me too much :D as a young kid the killing of the family at the beginning was already quite shocking as it is
Cielo Pachirisu another reason Clint sucks
I think that would have been weird.
I think that Fistful of Dollars was already an anti western: in the town the film is set into there already is a western story taking place. Two families fight for supremacy and age old grudges, revenge and power. They have relationships between each other, they feel like characters of traditional westerns.
Then comes a man with no name, no past and no motives beyond money and survival, who ends up manipulating both families to destroy each other and personally killing the ones remaining, leaving the town to the characters who are normally insignificant (like the carpenter).
He acts like a predator, even though he's not evil or cruel. And more than values, he acts on instinct, answering aggression with aggression but sparing helpless people, and then leaves the city. In a sense, he's an anti-character, a fragment of dust that went into the cogs of the traditional western and destroyed it from the inside.
I think the dollar trilogy was already anti-western, even if a more abstract one. Shooting them wouldn't have been symbolic.
This has been my favorite film since 1968 and I suspect that feeling will never change.
It's no "The Shakiest Gun in the West", but this Leone film is indeed one fine film !!
We talked about this film, the score in particular, in school and I hated it. It bored me to tears back then.
I saw it again about a year ago and fell absolutely in love with it. It's beautifully crafted. I felt like I needed a certain maturity, and a frame of reference, to appreciate that though.
I found the comment about the film being a 'dance of death' interesting, since over here the films title roughly translates to: 'Play me the song of death'. It's obviously a reference to the way Frank killed Harmonicas brother, but it also fits the film on a deeper layer. Plus it's just a badass title.
Good analysis. Wish I could ‘feel’ it. For me it is over-crafted, slow, too much of the squinting, staring eyes and stretched out tension-building
@@riazhassan6570 i LOVE the squinting, starting eyes and prolonged tension FANTASTICA
@@riazhassan6570 Yes, but then - we are all different and feel different about different things !
@@riazhassan6570 patient as death, crafted and structured like a poem
I honestly hadn't considered the "violent microcosm" that the opening thugs are each creating, in the absence of actual conflict. Great episode, all around!
Has to be the most beautiful score I have ever heard for a movie.
@@steviesevieria1868 For a few dollars more (my personal favorite) had the same droning but done better. I thought OOATINW had one of the best stand alone scores overall.
Occasionally the mixing doesn't always seem fitting but during the multiple artistic climaxes of the film i personally thought the way it came together was unparalleled.
@@a.i.a3949 Some of that was the result of a shorter film product for the American audience rather than the full version Leone had filmed at3
3hours long. One of the best films on the swan song of the western.
One of the greatest movies ever made
Harmonica is easily the most underrated film anti-hero, and Frank is easily the most underrated film villain.
Jake Beninato Underrated ?
Nothing in this masterpiece is underrated,
Being in the list of the Library of the Congress as one of the 100 very best movies in the history of cinema...
Jake Beninato, Frank and Harmonica underrated???? I don’t think so.
I just loved watching "Bang bang à italiana" on TV, it was really popular here in Brazil. My favorite were the Trinity series, with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill.
The reveal of Henry Fonda must have resulted in the most insane reactions in cinema history
Filmed in glorious Cinemascope, 'Once Upon a Time in the West', is arguably the finest western ever filmed.
Shot in TECHNISCOPE....2 perf frame rather than 4.
Aren't you forgetting two iconic Westerns (both released in 1966) : "Billy the Kid vs Dracula" and "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter" ??
This was everything I hoped for when I requested it on Patreon, Leon. This is a movie everyone who is a fan of movies should see. It's made with exquisite attention to detail, has great performances by some great actors (especially Fonda who is one of the all-time greats), and it will stick with you for a long time.
One of my favorites of all time. Great analysis. Keep the good work, I'm a fan.
Claudia carndinale is probably the most beautiful actress that ever star in a movie right next to Sherri Jackson
Another diversion from the classic Western I noticed: In the final duel Harmonica actually draws first.
This is my favorite western of all; used to watch it with my Father as a child. Seeing it in an actual theatre was a treat for me in the 90s. I hadn't considered the deconstruction position, that's awesome.
What you said about Harmonica reminded me of Max in Fury Road- except for the driven by revenge for years part it's pretty similar. Doesn't have that many lines, actually a woman is the central character, and at the end he just walks away. I'm pretty sure George Miller did that on purpose...
There's some similarities there, no doubt. It feels like Max's arc is about overcoming his survivor's guilt and realizing that even among the horrors of Fury Road there are still things worth living for. Harmonica gets revenge for his brother's death... and that's it! He doesn't really have much character arc; they're both in some ways a barely restrained animal in human form, but Max doesn't stay that way.
@@rezandaigotsu4250 What's even better about Fury Road is that that arc is basically the arc of all the characters. Furiosa, the Wives, even Nux, all of their arcs about realizing that they aren't "things" and can do things independent of, or even against, Immortan Joe. It's a great bit of thematic unity.
The purpose of Mad Max was always to be a vehicle of a story. He's less a person than a figure through which a tale might be told. I'm not sure this is because of any other movie specifically, but could of course very well might be. There's plenty of other examples for that though.
Clearly, the greatest influence for this movie is not a John Ford Western but a lower budget entry called Johnny Guitar. And, the interesting thing about Johnny Guitar is that the combatants are two women who truly hated each other in real life.
Yojimbo was the inspiration for A Fistful of Dollars.
Sergio Leone directed so many masterpieces
I literally turned off this video just to watch the movie and I'm glad I did LOL
The video has a fine explanation of the many aspects of Once Upon a Time in the West. Another thing that struck me about the film was its very dramatic nature, through sweeping music and long scenes which either slowly build up or are sentimental. Leone took the slower pace from Kurosawa but with Leone there is an addition of emotion and heightened drama, in a way an Italian touch.
you constantly engage my interest in movies I would never normally see.. I watched OUATITW and it floored me. PRobably the best movie I have never watched, instantly in my top ten and now I know where the Cohen's get it. Thank you!!!
Listen to the windmill in the opening scene. You can hear Harmonica's theme in it.
I just wish they restored the original Italian cut with the longer ending sequence, to this day the only cut available on BD even here in Italy if the US one which cuts to the credits a bit earlier.
This film has the greatest soundtrack too...
The video used here has a much better color quality than the current blu-ray.
Best western i have seen.and the harmonica music is just amazing.
The western is a blank canvas, to paint any story on... I saw this movie at the cinema for the first time this week... I will now die a happy man...
Watched the film for the first time last night and really enjoyed it. Also first time seeing one of your videos and I think this is excellent insight! You gained a new subscriber.
Glad you reviewed this one; probably my favorite Western ever.
I still stand by the statement that the German title of this movie is a lot more interesting: “Spiel mir das Lied vom Tod” (Play the song of death for me, referring of course to what Frank forced Harmonica through decades ago, and how Harmonica revealed his identity to him as he lay dying)
Best western movie ever. Best music by Morricone ever.
Another inspiring analysis. I've never seen any Leone films yet. Will definitely check this film out
The scene where Frank & gang kill the husband and children must be the best villain introduction in cinematic history. The man watches his children fall after getting shot by unseen killers, at first not understanding what he seeing. Then the part when the duster clad gunmen step out of hiding and slowly walk towards the surviving boy, underscored by Morricone's unparalleled music. Frank smiles at him, then one of his henchmen asks: " Did we get all of them, Frank?" The smile vanishes, and Frank says: "I told you not to use my name!" Then shoots the child. This is the deconstruction of the myth of the West right there, and tells it how it was, namely an overwhelming uncaring force slaughtering the innocent, and the subsequent denial of the same.
What'll we do with this one Frank? Now that you've called me by name. Not the lines you quoted.
I think my last favorite Western was Eastwood's The Unforgiven. My favorite being The Wild Bunch. As always a nice take.
The Wild Bunch is the best western ever, Unforgiven is right up there too. One of Clint's two best, along with The Outlaw Josey Wales. I need to watch this one again sometime soon.
"Looks like we're shy one house"
"You brought two too many."
One of the greatest openings of any film, and definitely my favorite spaghetti westerns from Leone.
if Iam right I guess it was' Horse,
@@kamranbaig6305 You are right.
I think you meant 'horse', partner. Your typo aside, I agree that it is a truly iconic opening to a truly iconic movie by a truly iconic film director.
Stay with the gun in my hand like Charles Bronson
Was pretty interesting having a climax at the beginning, seemed like the ending of a movie
This is good.. thanks, we are reviewing this movie tonight and I would like to link this to our description. I like your take on the movie
Very interesting thoughts. Thanks you!
looking forward to watch Once upon a TIME IN THE WEST
Great analysis and narration
Would you consider doing an analysis of "The Great Silence", another classic Spaghetti Western?
Okay - my apologies.
I agree...
My land lady coincidentally played this movie. I actually didn't watch this because I planned to watch it. Now I have.
OUATITW is the best western ever made in my opinion. There's a short list of maybe 7-8 movies that truly changed my life and how I think of cinema and OUATITW is right at the top.
Brilliant review !
PLEASE DO A RENEGADE CUT OF ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA!!!
Thanks for this Renegade Cut!! Could you do it of The Good The Bad and The Ugly please?
Thank you! Great series, it has been helping me a lot!
Nice commentary. You might also want to mention that Claudia Cardinale is the most gorgeous woman who ever walked the planet. .... :|
Agreed
I’m with you there J. A perfect woman 👍🇬🇧.
I've always had a theory (be it right or not) that Harmonica was not actually the boy whose brother was killed by Frank in the flashback during the showdown/shoot-out. I think, perhaps, it may have been that in Frank's mind but that there were so many ghosts in Frank's life that he really couldn't be sure of that,. In his final moments, he could have just as well been visited by any number of ghosts. I believe that Leone may have deliberately tried to throw the audience off with this assumption as well. Just as the theme of the past (a time that was no longer) being swallowed up by the future was a central theme throughout the film, I believe that Harmonica acted as a kind of impersonal Angel of Death sort of agent who showed up to reap and collect those whose time had come (just as he collected Frank and Shayane). I think this is hinted at when he comments that Jill's new and up-coming town is going to be a special place and she says that she hopes he will come back to see it "Some Day." To this he simply responds the same in return... "Someday." But not "that day" it seems. Because it is not quite yet her time.
That's an interesting take,but what about the flute which was there in the flashback scene as well?
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Strange take.
He is clearly the brother, hell bent on revenge, and the custodian of Frank's Harmonica!
Stay focused!!!
Just wondering what was the song in the background great video by the way.
Excellent Report on one of my favorite Spaghetti Western. Thanks. Out.
If you haven't seen the film DON'T FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T watch this video. See the film, then come back. The worst thing you could do to yourself is spoiling the plot. It's one of the better film in history.
As you mentioned, only a female character survives to in the end. This is very symbolic. This might tell Leone's view of the world. In an interview, he said "there is no ball left in the end of the film."
I like to know what great john fornd said about this jem.
Awesome movie. And great commentary.
beautiful insights
Thanks for Hindi Subtitles
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Great analysis! Another aspect to add with Bronson was a code of honor in terms of not ending up with Cardinale. She slept with the guy who killed his family. It wouldn’t be right and his mission was complete. Then, off he goes in typical cowboy style.
You miss an important point, Alex.
He makes it clear he shall come back,.... "some day".
@@brianvincent4165 Who but Bronson would walk away from CC ?
i appreciate this very high q analysis and would love to see tom hanks in a slasher
The girl is the new nation, interesting she start with a dream with the husband with innovation, she suffer for the rich man, and then sleeps with the bad gay to survive. She is saved for the justice/ revenge and the wild and simple man. She stayed alone been part of the progress or something like that.
Fonda playing the bad guy would be like Redford in the 70s playing a child killer or Clint Eastwood playing a guy who likes to torture people.
Bravo.
I love westerns for me the man who shot liberty valance, once upon a time in the west and the good the bad and the ugly are top 3
Wasn't that woman in 8 1/2 or am I imagining things?
Claudia Cardinale, and yes, she played Claudia in 8 1/2.
I've always felt The Wild Bunch killed the western genre. Great videos by the way.
Like 1950s USA Rock & Roll to UK Made Rock & Roll.
Every time is see Bronson in this movie I question my sexuality !
Great review but I'd resist the word 'anti-romantic'. This is still a very much romantic film, the score denotes that but also the themes of sympathy for Brett Mcbains dream of building a station and succeeding in the west. Your right to note Mortons failure, he never got to see the sea, but ,although dead, Mcbain did succeed in his dream, the station was built, just Jill was going to live it. I suppose i'm saying that its certainly not a cynical western, it gets the balance just right. Other spaghetti westerns like Django and The great silence appear to be more about critiquing american ideals.
EnnioSabata didn't you notice that Morton dreamt the see and ended in a pool of muddy water ?
Ahhhhhh, details, my friend, details...
This movie is full of details...
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great video, I'm not a big fan of Leone in particular or spaghetti western in general (to me John Ford is western), but still interesting to know of his intentions with this movie, I overall think that Leone's stylization plays against the themes and consequential development of his stories, I always see more of him through lenses than the story or the characters that he wants to show, the only spaghetti western that I plenty enjoy has been 'The Great Silence' of Sergio Corbucci (the only one that I had seen of him, I still want to see the original Django), every visual desition in that movie is in service of his themes and story more so than to show off
It's been a while since I've seen this movie and all I remember about it is that there wasn't much of a plot.
Released in 1968 and you are telling us what the story line is like we didn't know......
Do you genuinely think everyone who clicked on this video has seen this movie?
Read the comments of any video about any movie. There are always people who haven't seen it. The release date is irrelevant.
I know people that haven't seen certain classic movies but I never met one that wants the full story before they do...........Which only leaves those that have.
A brief synopsis is necessary to give context to everything else in the video.
sorry but you are full of it that is only your opinion on the movie
Good but very long