Retro Review: Star Wars: Tie Fighter

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2015
  • - Tie Fighter is available on GoG! www.gog.com/game/star_wars_tie...
    - If you don't have a joystick, this should get you set up fairly cheaply: www.amazon.com/Extreme-3D-Pro-...
    - Excellent reading about the life and death of mainstream flight sims: mostlyfilm.com/2011/07/27/air-...
    - The 1995 DOS version (included with the GoG purchase) is the one you want. Steer clear of the 1998 Windows re-release (also included in the GoG purchase. It can be confusing.) 1998 gimped the music tech and broke the torpedos, modding is required to partially restore DOS version's quality.
    - A helpful guide on getting the 1995 CD-ROM DOS version up to date, as well as configuring it with Xbox pads, check here: www.savingcontent.com/2014/08/...
    - NOTE: This guide also includes some tips on upgrading the music quality, ctrl-F for "MT-32" if you want to try that.
    - The game will only auto-config about three buttons on your joystick for you. For the rest, make your own custom joystick scheme with JoyToKey: joytokey.net/en/
    - I mapped "match speeds" "change weapons" and "toggle laser link" and the next/prev targets to my extra joystick buttons. You can do whatever.
    - The Thinking Trooper is from www.etsy.com/listing/18387773...
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  • @spoffproduction
    @spoffproduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    For my buddy and me, X-wings was a co-op game. He piloted, with the joystick, while I was his trusty astromech using the keyboard. Sounds geek and yes it was. It was another way to play.

    • @samtheweebo
      @samtheweebo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did that too once or twice :D

    • @torg1
      @torg1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Are you me? This is exactly how I played the game

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah, "X-wing" *not* "X-wings" should be played by a single player. You'll be stuck with braindead wingmen who like nothing more than getting shot up and blown up by enemies nearby. Even the so-called "veteran" wingmen were goners in a mission or two.
      Finishing "X-wing" without any cheats was an honour thing for me. I finally did it, back in the day, after having wrecked one perfectly good joystick (before learning that doing the 'Wotan-weave' or simply spiraling with the button depressed was a much more efficient way of escaping enemy laser bolts.
      But really, "Tie Figher" was a vast improvement over "X-wing." It had better design, different, customisable levels of difficulty, etc.
      "X-wing" had only one level of difficulty: 'next to impossible.'
      Example: in one mission, you have to board an Imperial Nebulon-B Frigate, "aided" by six Y-wings. In the movies, proton cannon had the advantage of not being hindered by any active shields on a target. But in the game, you had to first destroy the shields, then you could instantly disable the target.
      However, the Y-wings were being controlled by drone pilots even worse than the regular 'AI'-wingmen. They would not use their torpedoes but they would uselessly fire their protoncannon which were stopped by the frigate's massive shields.
      In the end I completed this mission by ordering the Y-wings to *stay the hell away* from the frigate. After destroying 9 or so Tie-fighters, I then started attacking the Nebulon-B Frigate in my A-wing figher. Alone. With two laser cannon and also having to disengage to recharge my shields, it took literally ages before the starship's shields were down. Then I ordered the useless (less than) Y-wings to stop napping and give the ship a few shots of protonfire.
      After having completed the entire game I abandoned it and never looked back. "Tie-fighter," on the other hand, is an actual game with decent gameplay.

    • @dgerdi
      @dgerdi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Steve Gravel a great way! Just saying

    • @JoeFF85
      @JoeFF85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My best friend switched off from pilot to Astromech, too!

  • @MagicAccent
    @MagicAccent 8 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    "Your will be flying the Tie Bomber designated Alpha 1, you will have no wingmen.
    The main enemy force will consist of A-wings, X-wings and Corellian corvettes, entrenched in a heavily mined area. Scan all mines and enemy craft for information about the imperial traitor. Deliver your findings to Admiral Harkovs SSD, and await special instructions.
    There are no reinforcements available for this mission."
    0_o
    "Good luck pilot!"

    • @NephritduGrey
      @NephritduGrey 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +MagicAccent "Your mission, should you choose/decide to accept it, ..."

    • @221b
      @221b 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +MagicAccent Don't forget that you also have to inspect and disable a fleeing ship that jumps to hyperspace five seconds after the mission begins, so that it can be boarded by a troop transport with a hull made of tissue paper.
      Still love the game, though.

    • @TangFiend1
      @TangFiend1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "Reinforcements will be available. Two assault gunboats from flight Mu will enter 13k away and engage the Y-wings. "

    • @DarkRaptor99
      @DarkRaptor99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some of the expansion pack missions were freaking insane

    • @orumonuldor1340
      @orumonuldor1340 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, that sounds about right.

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 7 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I'm kind of amazed that the idea of 'playing the bad guys' hasn't been really present in more games. The conflict between the secret theocracy and the military grunts made for a compelling story. Also the notion of being completely disposable instead of 'the chosen one' is something sadly lacking in a lot of games.

    • @YoStu242
      @YoStu242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In movies there's immediate outcry from "those" people if it doesn't please them. As with recent movie Joker, there's campaign against it because story is sympatethically viewed from bad guy's perspective. I suppose same goes with games too.

    • @eLJaybud
      @eLJaybud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Disney consumers. I hate them all.

    • @Spectreofwar
      @Spectreofwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@YoStu242 I think it depends on which story or which presentation. There are a handful of bad guys in cinema we totally root for: John Wick, for example, is an assassin and contract killer - not a good guy. True, in the movies he goes after other bad guys, but fans are rabid over him. Speaking of the Joker, Heath Ledger's presentation was so good I have no doubt that people would have gone nuts to see HIS Joker's origin story. GoT had a handful (Jaime Lannister definitely counted as a bad guy early on, as did Sandor Clegane, but audiences loved seeing more of them and rooted for them) and of course there's Loki from the MCU - who I heard is getting his own series(?).
      So you may be onto something about needing to please people, but I don't think that's so much about the movie using a bad guy as a protagonist as much as it is about the presentation on the whole; there are too many movies to count that have a good guy in the starring role that people downright hated.

    • @Webshooters1
      @Webshooters1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Spectreofwar Well as the saying goes, a hero is only as good as their villain.

  • @Brackynews
    @Brackynews 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Getting a full medal case in X-Wing and Tie is just the god damn best feeling.

    • @zef3k
      @zef3k 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Brackynews I was 6 or 7 when Tie came out and I still remember how great getting medals was. And also the photon torpedoes were awesome.

    • @gearsofMEAT
      @gearsofMEAT 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +zefyr0s dude come on photon torpedoes only exist in the lame realm of star trek.
      Proton Torpedo

    • @billyumbraskey8135
      @billyumbraskey8135 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honestly are you even a fan

    • @eLJaybud
      @eLJaybud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤦

  • @mikes7423
    @mikes7423 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    TIE FIGHTER: Still to date, one of the best games to have ever graced PC.

    • @nklin6
      @nklin6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just bought a joystick so i could replay this game

  • @TheNewFlesh
    @TheNewFlesh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    X-Wing and TIE Fighter are the reasons that I can't extract fun from Elite: Dangerous.
    They set the bar too high.

    • @joopezixzixzix
      @joopezixzixzix 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +TheNewFlesh
      Elite is too arcadey to be compared to a full-blown flight sim like tie fighter. Hopefully SC will give us a good twitch-style flight sim, they are certainly adding a lot of depth/customization to the controls but whether they can get the flight model to work or not remains to be seen.

    • @danieleigler2716
      @danieleigler2716 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      +TheNewFlesh that and elite isn't exactly compelling... the universe is literally 200,000 light years across,.. but only an inch deep.

    • @TaurionMartell
      @TaurionMartell 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +Daniel Eigler thats deep

    • @tillmannfischer
      @tillmannfischer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +Taurion Martell Apparently not deep enough... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @joopezixzixzix
      @joopezixzixzix 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Daniel Eigler
      AFAIK the elite 'universe' has depth and real world building, it's just not implemented into the game-play, atm factions and 'encounters' feel like diablo loot.

  • @LUNATIC75
    @LUNATIC75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I always preferred X-Wings atmosphere, but Tie Fighter was the better (and less rage quitty) game. Those were the days.
    For the Empire!

    • @eLJaybud
      @eLJaybud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Atmosphere... Are you sure? Let the hate flow through you.

    • @necromorph1109
      @necromorph1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just like that you could play the "bad guys" No way could you do that now. Especially after the Disney take over.

    • @willlauzon3744
      @willlauzon3744 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FOR THE EMPIRE!

  • @catiseith
    @catiseith 8 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Now that was an awesome nostalgia trip! For all the video I had a big smile in my face, and I could almost feel that long stick in my hand...
    That... didn't sound right... at all...

    • @Gothmatix
      @Gothmatix 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +CaitSeith That is the internet :)

    • @Ariksu
      @Ariksu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +CaitSeith Alpha one this is Delta one! Secondary mission objective complete. The emperor will be pleased.

    • @catiseith
      @catiseith 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      *****
      Sweet! But, can we use ink instead of an electric bolt for my tattoo? Last time I couldn't shake hands without giving electric shocks for two days...

  • @specialagentgeralt9763
    @specialagentgeralt9763 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    A perfect example of where priorities were 20 years ago vs today. Back then it was about passion and truly trying to push the limit of technology. It was an age of technological discovery.
    Today it's less about that and more about fulfilling quotas and profit. I have no doubt that there are many developers out there that have nothing short of a desire to make the game of their dreams but the massive companies and grand marketing schemes of today will never let creativity truly blossom. Not while there is money to be made and a consumer to provide it.
    It's no longer about pushing the bar but rather delivering the generic norms that people have come to expect with the latest graphics and a new number slapped next to the title. Quantity over quality and simple function over one of a kind experience. Games are shallow and only their surface appeal gets any real polish rather than actually making something deep that requires time and passion to get into.
    Tragic really...

    • @surject
      @surject 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm, maybe you should give Star Citizen a shot.

  • @atreides213
    @atreides213 8 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    'Battlefront is an authentic Star Wars experience'. Yeah, because as we all know, your average run of the mill rebel trooper had access to fucking jet packs and were drip fed bacta so their health regenerated ludicrously fast. Give me a break.

    • @SugaryCoyote
      @SugaryCoyote 8 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      +atreides213 They say as Luke Skywalker runs around Hoth in his Return of the Jedi clothing.

    • @atreides213
      @atreides213 8 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      +SugaryCoyote What? You want us to put Luke in a different costume depending on his environment? Do you think we're trying to make an EFFORT or something?

    • @Bloggerboy1000
      @Bloggerboy1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +atreides213 Muh immersion!

    • @Bloggerboy1000
      @Bloggerboy1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      inoffensive coddler Good point.

    • @specialagentgeralt9763
      @specialagentgeralt9763 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      +atreides213 Don't forget the the most disciplined and fanatical soldiers in the galaxy running around with their helmets off carrying Tuskan Raider rifles! Or how we just magically teleport away from the battlefield into a vehicle... Beam me up Scotty! Oh wait - wrong franchise >__>

  • @PrimePixelHD
    @PrimePixelHD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I still have hope for another Jedi Knight or Republic Commando game...

    • @gino456123789
      @gino456123789 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +Prime A Jedi Knight III would have me giddy not gonna lie.. Maybe Imperial Commando's? lol

    • @tonepursuit7110
      @tonepursuit7110 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +John “Red” Guzzi I thought Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy WAS part III?

    • @gino456123789
      @gino456123789 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      El Manimal Not that I know of?

    • @PrimePixelHD
      @PrimePixelHD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +John “Red” Guzzi Technically Academy is Jedi Knight III, but the series is a bit confusing in naming, with Dark Forces being the first entry and an expansion pack for Dark Forces 2 being the first 'Jedi Knight'.

    • @PrimePixelHD
      @PrimePixelHD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Prime *Cant edit on mobile*
      Dark Forces 2 was the first Jedi Knight, I mistakenly remembered only the expansion being called that.

  • @id104335409
    @id104335409 8 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Aaah, those good old days when you were pulling your stick to it's limits.

  • @Bitscreed
    @Bitscreed 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I still have my TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM edition disc, in its original jewel case. It's criminal that we haven't had a faithful remaster for modern systems.

    • @-Gumbo
      @-Gumbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      X-wing is being overhauled. 'XWVM' and it should have VR.

    • @ytucharliesierra
      @ytucharliesierra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gog.com is selling it ready for download and play on your Win10 for a good price. They include a fully configured portable Dos routine that launches the game. Very neat!

    • @Keihryon
      @Keihryon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@-Gumbo That is a fan-made overhall, which will most likely mean a cease and desist order soon. If it hasn't already.

    • @KrazzeeKane
      @KrazzeeKane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@rigsby2222 that mod will never release at this damn rate. They started development in 2018, and it's now almost 2024 and there is no playable version of it. They've instead decided to apparently spend the next year or so ripping out all star wars references and such, so essentially killing the X Wing part of XWVM.
      It simply doesn't look as exciting as it used to--personally I recommend the Tie Fighter Total Conversion for XWing Alliance. It is absolutely stunning and fully playable now, they don't do the stupidity of XWVM and keep everything completely closed and not even allow people to play any alphas or betas.
      I have my severe issues with any programmers who act that way in regards to mods of other peolples games. There is an inherent hypocrisy in people being protective of their mod which is using other people's art and code anyway lol

    • @theangrymilitant
      @theangrymilitant หลายเดือนก่อน

      TIE Fighter Total Conversion for X-Wing Alliance is nothing short of incredible. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

  • @TheTyjah
    @TheTyjah 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got the game on Steam last night and in full screen mode. I agree about the fact that having every key on the keyboard do something makes it more immersive and interesting, because of the learning curve which makes you feel accomplishment the more you master it to become a true elite tie fighter pilot. So many good memories of playing this game as a kid.

  • @Cplblue
    @Cplblue 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and of course X-Wing vs TIE Fighter were god damn fun. I spent countless hours as a kid playing those games. Used to play against my neighbor friend back in the old days. Really wish they'd remake them with today's graphics. Hopefully, with the resurgence of space sims, we maybe lucky to see one.

    • @mykeprior3436
      @mykeprior3436 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bump from the dead.
      XvT was the goat for PvP on Dial-up.

  • @SeedofCreed
    @SeedofCreed 8 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I'd be so down for a new TIE Fighter game. If they were worried about alienating potential players with a complex control scheme, they could have a "arcade" option, that's simplified but lacks the in-depth control.

    • @askagorn
      @askagorn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +LP Hovercraft Never compromise

    • @Bladsmith
      @Bladsmith 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +kanalgrävare Except that's not a compromise, that's a game mode.

    • @askagorn
      @askagorn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ***** Sacrificing development time to please casuals

    • @Bladsmith
      @Bladsmith 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      kanalgrävare Casuals are also allowed to enjoy games and give devs money.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +kanalgrävare They could patch it in later.

  • @Fortonor
    @Fortonor 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've just had flashbacks to a very distant time, sitting in front of a primitive PC with a barely working joystick, confused and lost but immersed up to my ears right into the world of my childhood's favorite movies. I very nearly forgotten that at some point games could construct this good of a suspension of disbelief. It also just dawned on me how heavily another beloved classic game from a slightly more recent memory borrowed from Tie Fighter. I'm talking about Descent: Freespace of course. Damn, remembering these games makes me really miss the old days. :D

  • @scootcha
    @scootcha 8 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    A-wings: OP then, OP now

    • @bduddy55555
      @bduddy55555 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +stumpz OP? Nah. Weak weapons and fragile as fuck. They're just annoying.

    • @ReyndommVideos
      @ReyndommVideos 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +bduddy55555 Make for good suicide bombers, though.

    • @scootcha
      @scootcha 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      bduddy55555 Yeah, and invincibility shield sure does make them fragile.

    • @Faethin
      @Faethin 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +stumpz Yeah, flying an A-Wing almost made me feel bad for the poor schmucks flying around in TIE Fighters. That is, until they introduced the Assault Gunboat and the invisible TIE.

    • @jawafreak230
      @jawafreak230 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +stumpz and Now :(

  • @PauLtus_B
    @PauLtus_B 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Those cloaked figure missions would be DLC nowadays...

    • @datalor3698
      @datalor3698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That and "revealed bonus goals" for 8.99...

    • @guilhermecaiado5384
      @guilhermecaiado5384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And till, people will ask for a Remake, full of microtransactions, paid DLCs and stuff.

  • @ThisIsMyFullName
    @ThisIsMyFullName 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Star Wars: Tie Fighter reminds me of how far away we've come from immersive games. Not in a visual sense, but in an emotional way. There's very long between games that actually makes you feel like you're a part of the game, and not just someone watching the game.

  • @robbhays8077
    @robbhays8077 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    To me, this is the best video game ever created.

    • @darthhole6818
      @darthhole6818 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 90s had a lot of great games. One of my favourites of all times (while it is a bit glitchy and a bit easy) is the first Dungeon Keeper. I fucking love that game.

    • @rffg781
      @rffg781 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seconded!

    • @nklin6
      @nklin6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im replaying it today

  • @yousircantknow8987
    @yousircantknow8987 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tie Fighter and X-Wing: Better designed games than anything out today.

  • @xisumavoid
    @xisumavoid 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Great video! Love what you do :-) Really enjoyed the retro game, bit of a flash back to playing the x-wing equivalent for MS-DOS, i loved it, but it always crashed a few levels in :-)

    • @SliceOfFish
      @SliceOfFish 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +xisumavoid you are everywhere :)

    • @Cleath78
      @Cleath78 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo xisuma

  • @James_Bee
    @James_Bee 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I loved this game. Ironically, the parallels to current events... scary.

  • @Lirky77
    @Lirky77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was there when Tie Fighter came out. Best game of my life.
    Recently, I purchased the MAC version on GoG to put it on my videoprojector screen.
    A dream, finally, came true.
    20 years ago movie like screen didn't exist (cheap ones anyway).

  • @ivirusgame
    @ivirusgame 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Once again you cement your titular position as best game's journalist on TH-cam.
    All the best to you and your family for 2016.

  • @JimHabash
    @JimHabash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played the entire game through, and was addicted to it in 1995-96, absolutely absorbed into it. Just a fabulous game. Such a fabulous game. Unbelievable.

  • @Spectacular_Insanity
    @Spectacular_Insanity 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have X-Wing Alliance from gog. One of my favorite Star Wars games of all time.

  • @Howlrunner82
    @Howlrunner82 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    and thats why the Empire will always be cooler then the Rebels with their shielded X-Wings...Imps have skills

    • @jawafreak230
      @jawafreak230 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Howlrunner82 haha, right?

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imperials also have massive numbers of easily replacable Tie-fighter cannonfodder.

  • @JackieFroSTALKER
    @JackieFroSTALKER 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who only recently got around to watching the original trilogy, I feel like I have so much to catch up on with all these games and books and things!

  • @jbal6956
    @jbal6956 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Most of the things George says in this video also apply to the fantastic Freespace 2, if anyone has a hankering for a great old space game.

  • @RetroPowerUp
    @RetroPowerUp 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tie Fighter was hands down one of my favorite Star Wars PC games ever. I spent so many hours in that game.

  • @Neverhoodian
    @Neverhoodian 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Star Wars game critiqued by my favorite TH-cam channel! This was certainly a pleasant surprise in my subscription feed!
    As weird as this may sound, Tie Fighter played a major role in shaping my growth as a person. I was eight years old when my parents got it for me as a Christmas present. While the solid technical and gameplay elements played major roles, it was the game's portrayal of the Empire in a positive light that really hooked me.
    I had never really considered alternate points of view and shades of gray morality up until then, and Tie Fighter pulled it off so convincingly that I was thoroughly entranced. I knew that the Empire was an oppressive and tyrannical regime from the films, yet I couldn't help myself from wholeheartedly adopting the Imperial mindset during my play sessions. It helped me to better grasp concepts of morality and conflict, how your average soldier is fighting for what they believe is right, regardless of the side they're on. After all, you weren't a bad guy in Tie Fighter; you were simply maintaining peace and stability by fending off terrorist insurgents and other agents of chaos (an interpretation that took on a whole new thought-provoking degree in the post 9-11 world).
    Even my viewing of the Star Wars films took on a whole different perspective; I found myself wondering during certain scenes if all those dead Stormtroopers and Tie pilots would be missed by their squadmates, or if they left behind grieving families back home. In this sense, Tie Fighter immersed me in the universe in a way no other Star Wars product has; it dared to challenge the strict light vs. dark duality and give a face to the faceless.

  • @jonikoskinen5334
    @jonikoskinen5334 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damnit George, your videos just keep getting better. It just works.

  • @TheBigBigSean
    @TheBigBigSean 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved this game when I was 16-17. Star Wars in the 90s was some of my favorite stuff.

  • @sardukar1234
    @sardukar1234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    been waiting 20 years for a remake of this and xwing alliance

  • @youwayo
    @youwayo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite possible the most underrated best star wars game. The fact that this game solely focuses on the empire is enough to be awesome.

    • @mitrooper
      @mitrooper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This game was not underrated back in 1994.

  • @Agito56
    @Agito56 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sad that you’re gameplay video is gone. Your Wasteland run and Tie Fighter gameplay was so fun to watch.

  • @duncanforster9199
    @duncanforster9199 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Utterly love this game, have since I was 14! Got it on GOG as soon as it was available and got myself a flight stick, 20 quid total spend, 60 hours plus killing rebel scum, pirates, dissidents etc. Heaven

  • @huxleypig69
    @huxleypig69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still playing, and loving this game in 2020.

  • @NotAnAveragePerson
    @NotAnAveragePerson 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    "The physical sensation of pulling, pushing and struggling your stick against the motions on the screen can't be beat." -Super Bunnyhop 2015

  • @Nutricula87
    @Nutricula87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an amazing review! So well done and in depth.

  • @legatus_newt
    @legatus_newt 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video showered me with good memories from my gaming childhood. I might go back and play this game again.

  • @mrweatherby
    @mrweatherby 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "An 'authentic Star Wars experience' is redundant."
    "What's a Jakku?"
    Alright.

  • @paulyb6458
    @paulyb6458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pissed away so much of my youth on this game. And loved every minute, hour, day....

  • @wayner396
    @wayner396 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wore out 2 of my mom's computer mouses playing x-wing, b-wing, and tie-fighter. Then I got a joystick for Christmas. I love those games. Wish we'd get some more soon.

  • @atarileaf
    @atarileaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my all time favorite DOS games from the 90s

  • @Antonluisre
    @Antonluisre 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember growing up playing tie fighter and IL2 Sturmovik. Great games

  • @viktorsandstrom5281
    @viktorsandstrom5281 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make incredibly well thought out videos.

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry for double post.
    Still have whole dark forces jedi knight series too.
    I'd like to thank dosbox for letting me play my old star wars games once again.

  • @pho3nix-
    @pho3nix- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! this took me back memory lane.

  • @paganarh
    @paganarh 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my most favourite SW games of all time, it actually introduced me to the movie series.
    "X-Wing vs.TIE fighter" was great too, but nothing beats the experience of being a cannon fodder for huge Imperium and survive no matter what, versus sitting in an heavily armored and shielded fightercraft, fulfilling some "destiny" or something.

  • @thebigzapfer8696
    @thebigzapfer8696 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not only are these a masterpiece, the posters were awesome!

  • @RichyWow
    @RichyWow 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was my favorite review of yours SBH, cheers!

  • @tbranch227
    @tbranch227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love for a hi-fidelty sim to come out for star wars again. X-wing and Tie-fighter were great to play and really immersive in my favorite part of the star wars universe.

  • @lynxissiodorensis2319
    @lynxissiodorensis2319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally agree. TIE Fighter was a phenomenal experience.

  • @kimchipower
    @kimchipower 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to say that this review is a really good example of why I like your reviews in general. You don't waste time going over the plot and the basic control schematics...I can look all that stuff up on my own. Rather, you spend a lot of time articulating exactly why the game was enjoyable and how the specific design features factor towards that. I played X-Wing back in the day, but my PC's lacking performance prevented me from fully enjoying the game. Watching this review really makes me want to nab this game on GOG and shell for a flight sim joystick. Kudos.

  • @ChadTheGamingDad
    @ChadTheGamingDad 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. The X-Wing series is my favorite..all time.
    I smile when I hook up my PC to my 4K tv and load up the special edition with graphics and sound .. I just think of how my teenage mind would have been blown to see how I play my favorite game today.

  • @punk_rock_music_teacher
    @punk_rock_music_teacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is where I learned about most of the ships and lore. I got this sweet collectors pack with Rebel Assault 1, 2, Dark Forces, and Tie Fighters.

  • @showersmoker
    @showersmoker 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing review! I just installed Tie fighter last night! Busted out my joystick and everything. It was hard to stop playing. Game holds up very well. Remember to go into compatibility mode and run the game in 256 colors if you're playing on Windows 7.

  • @makosn
    @makosn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played the hell out of this back in the day, great to see it finally hit GoG. Another great retro review, cheers.

  • @DJBucca
    @DJBucca 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's amazing to see how much influence this game had on flight games of the future

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mention the music! Unlike modern Star Wars games it has an original score which still incorporates some Star Wars themes while inventing new ones.

    • @Feark
      @Feark 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, I would love an updated graphic, like the 1998 version, but it has to be the midi sounds (atleast an updated one that sounds similar and changed dependent on the battle situation. The ultimate version would be a VR ported one!

  • @gungriffen
    @gungriffen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've been playing MechWarrior Online and Warthunder and on both the Joystick is next to useless. Forums upon forums say that it's because the Joystick is an inferior piece of hardware next to the mouse and it was abandoned for not being very good. I spent dozens (close to a hundred) of hours on War Thunder trying to get the Joystick to "feel" right. Even now it feels ...ok or more like slightly less than ok. I got bored one day and loaded up X-Wing vs Tie Fighter, no fucking around at all with the options I could not believe that all I had to do was plug in my joystick and it was perfect. The turning, fine controlling, easy acquisitions everything. It was just plug in play! This has restored my faith in the Joystick and casted a long shadow of doubt that companies just don't give a fuck anymore on even trying to get it right.

    • @vp-retro
      @vp-retro 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +Gungriffen A control instrument for a more, "Civilized" gaming age...

    • @erdervv
      @erdervv 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Gungriffen depend what mode you play, it's useless in AB and RB, but you really can't play simulator battles without a joystick, it's quite fun to use it in those.

  • @ricardocruz6322
    @ricardocruz6322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very nice review! Please do the SW Squadrons review too when it comes out!😁

  • @chakky533
    @chakky533 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently a lot of references and videos have been made to this game, yet this is is the only review that has actually explained and presented why it seems so beloved. thanks for this video!

  • @-CrimsoN-
    @-CrimsoN- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only recently played Tie Fighter this year for the first time and I absolutely love it! I even managed to get it setup with my TWCS throttle and sidewinder force feedback 2. I had to use joytokey to sort of emulate, but it works surprisingly well and actually makes the game significantly easier from what I've seen.

  • @shaitan9204
    @shaitan9204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I recall correctly the developers of both X-Wing & Tie-Fighter developed WW2 flight sims beforehand which is why sim the aspects & missions were so good

  • @BrorealeK
    @BrorealeK 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man, TIE Fighter was my first ever flight sim. One of the first games I ever played. It was also one of the few games tiny tyke me actually "learned" the difficulty curve of. I invested hours into becoming an ace Empire pilot. I need to grab this again.

  • @Kalroth
    @Kalroth 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    X-wing gold edition was by far my favorite game as a child. I played it so much that I would have dreams in which I was an ace pilot for the rebel alliance but the inside of the cockpit was my joystick and keyboard. I've never again found a gaming experience that engaging, but star citizen is getting pretty damn close.

  • @buildings_and_food
    @buildings_and_food 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's great hearinf about games that you love. I've never played tie fighter but I kinda want to now - and never would have without your video!

  • @LawmanIL
    @LawmanIL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE this game. Still have my boxed DOS version with the 1.44 floppies. Glad to see it finally getting the internet love it deserves!

  • @DasIllu
    @DasIllu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back when i was playing this, i broke my hand and with the cast i could not handle a joystick. But i had two free finger so i bought a trackball and continued playing.
    It worked surpringly well. No End-Of-Mouse-Pad dilemma, and fast turns where just violently spinning the ball. And when it came to aiming you had the benefit of mouse-like precission.

  • @TheFluffyDuck
    @TheFluffyDuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss the 90s. Sure I was bullied at high school but god damn they are better than today.

  • @gungriffen
    @gungriffen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some Star Wars context of the time. In the 90s Star Wars had grown with it's fan base. Star Wars was seen as adult content with thick deep novels and flight Sims. It wasn't till Episode 1 Star Wars (Jar Jar) was brought back to being more of a youthful property once more.

  • @Tropcopter
    @Tropcopter 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    X-Wing vs Tie Fighter/Balance of Power was the pinnacle of the series in my opinion. The graphics still look great and the controls are superb. Easily my favorite flight sim/combat game of all time.

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved all the X-Wing / Tie Fighter games. Played them to death. I miss games like that.

  • @OnyersixForLife
    @OnyersixForLife 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I distinctly remember this game running in a higher resolution on the Tie Fighter Collectors CD. Looking at the X-Wing graphics just makes it look poor in comparison, but it was still one of the most loved games of the 90s for me.

  • @JakeyFlake
    @JakeyFlake 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    God i loved this game, to this day one of my all time favs. Very few games create the feeling of being just one small (but decisive) part of a huge battle as well as Tie Fighter did.

  • @DarkRaptor99
    @DarkRaptor99 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeez 21 years ago damn I feel old!!! One of my favorite old school PC games!! I used to do a replay every few years for the longest time!! I will say some of the later missions are borderline insane!!

  • @2wheelsoffroad730
    @2wheelsoffroad730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imperial Engineering:
    "Lets power our spaceships with a AAA battery."

  • @kart0917
    @kart0917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll never forget TIE Fighter with my childhood

  • @arrrgee
    @arrrgee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These were my games back in the day, played X-wing, Tie Fighter and X-wing Aliance over and over and over!!

  • @kukko83
    @kukko83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My god this game (still) is good! Tie Fighter and X-Wing before it, took a sizeable chunk of my childhood with them. We played in turns with my friend, to complete missions that sometimes took about one trillion trial and error runs to beat them. Some of the escort/defend missions were just sadistic. If you weren't precise enough with your timing, the squadron of Y-Wings could get away from you and lay a barrage of photon torpedoes on the craft you were supposed to protect. Leading into you failing the mission.
    The most frustrating part was, that in many cases this was the aftermath of something like twenty minutes of floating around in space, waiting for the mission critical crafts to arrive on the scene. It would be over in seconds and you'd have to play it all over again. But the atmosphere is just so good and immersive! You can really feel like you're part of the universe. Mainly, because you're not some invincible hero, but just a regular pilot making your way up the ranks.

  • @jackau08
    @jackau08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tie fighter was the best space fly sim of its time. Today, there be a few youngsters capable of handling all those controls. I still remember how accomplished I felt when I beat a surveillance mission in tie fighter without firing a shot and constantly have a trial of a wing/xwing on my tail. I for one can’t wait for a game as deep with modernised graphics in VR. Hack, it be a sure system seller for VR.

  • @Thomas-mt3xx
    @Thomas-mt3xx 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review because you talk about the game mechanics but also about why it's special to you. I like that it immerses you and that, sadly, is lost today in most games where KD is all players are after...

  • @Rooftop-Ali-BR
    @Rooftop-Ali-BR 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was addicted to this game and also Jane's Combat ATF Gold. God i miss those days😍

    • @StevenKelley
      @StevenKelley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ATF was amazing. It came out in the 90s yet had the F22 and F35. modern planes in the 21st century crazy how long they've been in development!

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    110% agree with this review and video. I got TIE Fighter many many years after it came out for a few bucks from some misc store as a kid, and it was just such an excellent immersive gameplay experience, especially due to all the minor and almost irrelevant things you had influence over as a player. It's a shame in many ways flight sims died off as a genre, because TIE Fighter really showed how you could take the facets and complexity of a flight sim, and put it in an environment with plenty of action and worldbuilding.
    I'm not sure how well a graphically updated version would do, because I'm not sure any developers (or the money behind said developers) would make a game with the sheer breadth of commands and features in TIE Fighter. It feels like too many companies are too focused on an ease of access and marketability to just let someone create such a needlessly complex but also highly rewarding experience, as TIE Fighter was.

  • @TheTrueChuster
    @TheTrueChuster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Now you made me curious...

    • @TheTrueChuster
      @TheTrueChuster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Jonathan Taylor Thomas Or... Buy-curious?

    • @TheTrueChuster
      @TheTrueChuster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jonathan Taylor Thomas You can't stop the fire.

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I so wish I could get a modern version of this game.

  • @Pleaseunderstand
    @Pleaseunderstand 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine Tie Fighter the game with Star Wars Battlefront graphics...
    ahhh... one can only dream.

  • @SusaVile
    @SusaVile 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One small thing you forgot to add: the overwhelming, amazing, orgasm inducing music during the battles? Like when a Calamary Cruiser arrives, or Darth Vader arrives on his Star Destroyer and you hear him say "To all loyal imperial forces..." man this game was awesome

  • @matfantastic1
    @matfantastic1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered your channel through Reddit. It's really cool! Subscribed.

  • @animal10.05
    @animal10.05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most memorable part of the game is sludging through what seems like hundreds of missions to finally act as escort to the emperor himself and to just instantly destroy him and to feel like you were the most successful undercover spy that has ever existed.

  • @gettcouped
    @gettcouped 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite games when I was a kid. X-wing and Tie Fighter.

  • @BARMN89
    @BARMN89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I kinda do want to get this, and I probably would want to get a joystick, but the question is, what other games would go well with a joystick? Flight sims i presume? Ive always been more of a story focused guy for games, so I would want something hopefully with this level of presentation

    • @gearsofMEAT
      @gearsofMEAT 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +BARMN89 xwing '94

  • @baltazarvok2564
    @baltazarvok2564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finished the game on an old notebook with a trackball instead of mouse (my brother was helping with keybord commands, because the trackball required both hands to operate fast enough. Those were the days.

  • @RoboJules
    @RoboJules 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a Wingman? Those were THE BEST joysticks when I was a kid. I had the crazy Wingman Warrior with a needless extra knob for 360 spinning. I used it for nearly everything, and I still have the kickass CD rom which came with the demo for Duke Nukem 3D on it.

  • @IggyStardust1967
    @IggyStardust1967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Good is a point of view, Anakin." - Palpatine.
    Truer words have never been spoken. What's good for one, may be bad for others.

  • @Sadd2Me
    @Sadd2Me 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t explain how fluid and addictive this was for the time. I think my college roommate might have been addicted. It was the thrill of the hunt and the smooth motion.