Thanks! It was a lot of fun looking through those back issues of Boys Life Magazine. I didn't mention this in the video but the boy scout logo changed again around 1979 when they moved the national office again to Texas. I think it was then that "National Council" changed to "Be Prepared" at the bottom of the logo. I still have to confirm this. Thanks for watching my video!
Brings back memories. Was a scout in seventies/eighties. First introduced to the sterno stove then, thought it was the best thing since sliced bread then.
Cool! I will be on the lookout for your video. I bet your pockets are on the main part of the pack and not on the flap like mine. I recently got a scout compass from the NY era. It's made by Taylor Instruments with the Bakelite case. Because it has NY Council on the face I know its pre 1954. I haven't been able to narrow the date down any more than that so far. Thanks for the sub and for commenting!
Had one of both of these as a kid in the 60s, the offset one seemed easier to deal with. Hand me downs. The dents always seem like a badge of honor. Used them for camping fishing, lost them along the way.
When I first get them, they are usually coated in scale or corroded. If it’s not that bad, I use white vinegar inside and let it soak a day or more shaking it every once in a while. I rinse it out good and then I use boiling hot water to finish. If the buildup is bad, I have used beach sand or play box sand inside and shake it around a while to break up the scale. Then I finish like before: Vinegar, rinse, boiling hot water, and let dry.
I believe the change in location of the lid and mouth of the cantina is so the canteen can be laid down flat in a fire to boil the water for purification without spilling the water
Keep up the good work, I like your videos. I find it odd that these older canteens aren’t making a comeback. With all the bush crafting videos about haversacks especially, this would be a perfect flat canteen to hang with or go in one. Time will tell
According to my great Uncle Fred, when 8 joined back in 1960 , he had a lot of his gear and materials that he had when he was in scouting. He enjoyed the Outdoors more than anyone I've known. He had kept much of his equipment from his days camping and it was always taken very good care of. And thats what he mentioned about the side fill port , he said you could put in in the coals or use it over a kerosene burner stove for purifying water or boiling water to make tea. I still have his two burner kerosene stove , it is gravity fed and has a square glass tank. Ive never tried to use it but it is still here. I had one of the side fill canteens in the 60s and an aluminum one gallon with a top fill i bought from sears catalog for camping. Had a wool plad cover. I have so many great memories of back then.
Do these have any monetary value? I have early 60s Yucca Pack, Day Hike Bag, canteen, and Frontier Featherlite pack frame, all in fair to good condition. Unfortunately, I have no kids to pass these on to
teodelfuego I don’t know how much they are worth. My suggestion is checking eBay for how much they are going for there. The ones that are older seem to be more valuable to collectors.
Jon Melvin I would have to spend time researching boyslife.org/wayback to see when they appeared. But just shooting from the hip I would say in the late 1950s they changed to a plastic cap. But that would need to be verified. I just don’t have the time right now.
I have a regal canteen with a metal cap and the same mark as is on the pack. We found it inside my father's guncase. He collected knives and guns so we were never allowed near the case. No idea where it came from but it was well taken care of but used often..... he would have been 12 in 1955 but living in Hartshorne Oklahoma.
the boy scouts need to be reinvented and brought back to the old ways. i left in the early double digits (2010+) dont remember when for running way off the rails of what was boy scouts that eventually led to the disgrace it has become. soon before i left i was asked to teach new scouts how to build a fire so get their firemans chit. everything was going well until the scout master interrupted my teaching and said their is no need to light or maintain the fire nor do they have to cook that nights meal on it. he told me about how in the new books all that is required and all they will do is properly build a wood structure for a fire and have at least 2 ways of lighting it...... lighters, matches, and solid fuel where acceptable (i remember when i had to do it. we made dinner and then they pored a 5 gal bucket of water over the whole fire pit and said make a fire on this very spot. no modern forms of fire staring was allowed and all on top of mud, i did it after about an hour having never done it before). so me and the scout master got into a fight about how stupid that was but he would have none of it, and one of the new scouts mom who somehow became one of our scout masters agreed with him. so much more like that as well such as ramen noodles on a propane stove being the only thing required to get the cooking merit badge. we never just went camping, it was always in official camping spots with all modern amenities and what not. i stayed as long as i did because i liked spending time with my friends but after going through the new book at that time and my friends too busy with school i just decided to leave. we have 2 state parks in a 30 minute drive from here and one i know for a fact that as long as you backpack in you can camp wherever you want in the entire forest for 1 night without needing to get a free permit. but if you have more than 10 people then you will need authorization from a district forester. an easy way around that if that was a problem would be to split the group in 2 based on skill and camp in different spots. its painful to see what has become of it.
CarlS. I agree. It’s a shame that a organization like the scouts has diminished like it has. I was only a Cub Scout for a while before becoming a Royal Ranger at my local church. I left when I started driving but I was still a part of the church youth group. I then became a Royal Ranger leader in 1999 after I got married. I have seen a big change in what interests boys in that time. I still introduce them to the outdoors but sadly only a few really take to it. It’s just a different time right now. I’m sure that it will swing back the other way in time. I just concentrate and enjoy those boys that find it fascinating and on those boys that need help because of their home life or the situation they are in. I hear there is a new boys group that is growing that some scouts are transferring to. It’s called Trail Life. I don’t know much about it but I hear they strive to be like the Scouts of old.
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some good detective work John!...very cool
Thanks! It was a lot of fun looking through those back issues of Boys Life Magazine. I didn't mention this in the video but the boy scout logo changed again around 1979 when they moved the national office again to Texas. I think it was then that "National Council" changed to "Be Prepared" at the bottom of the logo. I still have to confirm this. Thanks for watching my video!
Brings back memories. Was a scout in seventies/eighties. First introduced to the sterno stove then, thought it was the best thing since sliced bread then.
Perktube1 I’m glad you enjoyed my video! Thanks for watching!
Well.ya know I had tune in for this one John! Love that pack too. Nice kit,thanks for sharing👍
I have always known what kind of click bait to get you on! Lol. Thanks for watching and enduring another video and for your comment.
I have the same as the one on the left, but the cover is more of a wool or felt material. 1940's?
Real nice. I've got a similar pack from the New York council era. I should do a video on soon. New sub here.
Cool! I will be on the lookout for your video. I bet your pockets are on the main part of the pack and not on the flap like mine. I recently got a scout compass from the NY era. It's made by Taylor Instruments with the Bakelite case. Because it has NY Council on the face I know its pre 1954. I haven't been able to narrow the date down any more than that so far. Thanks for the sub and for commenting!
Nice gear and another good review John.
Thanks very much!
Had one of both of these as a kid in the 60s, the offset one seemed easier to deal with. Hand me downs. The dents always seem like a badge of honor. Used them for camping fishing, lost them along the way.
Ya what do you use to clean your cantean. Good video. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
When I first get them, they are usually coated in scale or corroded. If it’s not that bad, I use white vinegar inside and let it soak a day or more shaking it every once in a while. I rinse it out good and then I use boiling hot water to finish. If the buildup is bad, I have used beach sand or play box sand inside and shake it around a while to break up the scale. Then I finish like before: Vinegar, rinse, boiling hot water, and let dry.
@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS thank you. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
Chicken grit works well!
@@A_Meek_lake_Dweller thank you. God bless. From Glenn CATT in Massachusetts.
I believe the change in location of the lid and mouth of the cantina is so the canteen can be laid down flat in a fire to boil the water for purification without spilling the water
john drury You could be right because that would certainly would work. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Keep up the good work, I like your videos. I find it odd that these older canteens aren’t making a comeback. With all the bush crafting videos about haversacks especially, this would be a perfect flat canteen to hang with or go in one. Time will tell
According to my great Uncle Fred, when 8 joined back in 1960 , he had a lot of his gear and materials that he had when he was in scouting. He enjoyed the Outdoors more than anyone I've known. He had kept much of his equipment from his days camping and it was always taken very good care of.
And thats what he mentioned about the side fill port , he said you could put in in the coals or use it over a kerosene burner stove for purifying water or boiling water to make tea. I still have his two burner kerosene stove , it is gravity fed and has a square glass tank. Ive never tried to use it but it is still here.
I had one of the side fill canteens in the 60s and an aluminum one gallon with a top fill i bought from sears catalog for camping. Had a wool plad cover. I have so many great memories of back then.
What you call offset is what we scouts in the 80s call the flying saucer. The offset opening is spill proof.
We would turn them up to drink
what do you know about the 2 qt canteen with the approximate 2" wide edge around it, and the white plastic lid with the angled spout?
Another very informative vid !!, here in england ive seen these round canteens, sometimes being sold as american civil war!!
Very interesting info thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching. I'm glad you liked it!
Do these have any monetary value? I have early 60s Yucca Pack, Day Hike Bag, canteen, and Frontier Featherlite pack frame, all in fair to good condition. Unfortunately, I have no kids to pass these on to
teodelfuego I don’t know how much they are worth. My suggestion is checking eBay for how much they are going for there. The ones that are older seem to be more valuable to collectors.
What year did Regal mfg. boy scout canteens caps change from metal to plastic?
Jon Melvin I would have to spend time researching boyslife.org/wayback to see when they appeared. But just shooting from the hip I would say in the late 1950s they changed to a plastic cap. But that would need to be verified. I just don’t have the time right now.
I have a regal canteen with a metal cap and the same mark as is on the pack. We found it inside my father's guncase. He collected knives and guns so we were never allowed near the case. No idea where it came from but it was well taken care of but used often..... he would have been 12 in 1955 but living in Hartshorne Oklahoma.
Mine is the double walled looks nite like a cake with offset.
How much water do they each carry?
thx john - up thumbed it!
the boy scouts need to be reinvented and brought back to the old ways. i left in the early double digits (2010+) dont remember when for running way off the rails of what was boy scouts that eventually led to the disgrace it has become. soon before i left i was asked to teach new scouts how to build a fire so get their firemans chit. everything was going well until the scout master interrupted my teaching and said their is no need to light or maintain the fire nor do they have to cook that nights meal on it. he told me about how in the new books all that is required and all they will do is properly build a wood structure for a fire and have at least 2 ways of lighting it...... lighters, matches, and solid fuel where acceptable (i remember when i had to do it. we made dinner and then they pored a 5 gal bucket of water over the whole fire pit and said make a fire on this very spot. no modern forms of fire staring was allowed and all on top of mud, i did it after about an hour having never done it before). so me and the scout master got into a fight about how stupid that was but he would have none of it, and one of the new scouts mom who somehow became one of our scout masters agreed with him. so much more like that as well such as ramen noodles on a propane stove being the only thing required to get the cooking merit badge. we never just went camping, it was always in official camping spots with all modern amenities and what not. i stayed as long as i did because i liked spending time with my friends but after going through the new book at that time and my friends too busy with school i just decided to leave. we have 2 state parks in a 30 minute drive from here and one i know for a fact that as long as you backpack in you can camp wherever you want in the entire forest for 1 night without needing to get a free permit. but if you have more than 10 people then you will need authorization from a district forester. an easy way around that if that was a problem would be to split the group in 2 based on skill and camp in different spots. its painful to see what has become of it.
CarlS. I agree. It’s a shame that a organization like the scouts has diminished like it has. I was only a Cub Scout for a while before becoming a Royal Ranger at my local church. I left when I started driving but I was still a part of the church youth group. I then became a Royal Ranger leader in 1999 after I got married. I have seen a big change in what interests boys in that time. I still introduce them to the outdoors but sadly only a few really take to it. It’s just a different time right now. I’m sure that it will swing back the other way in time. I just concentrate and enjoy those boys that find it fascinating and on those boys that need help because of their home life or the situation they are in.
I hear there is a new boys group that is growing that some scouts are transferring to. It’s called Trail Life. I don’t know much about it but I hear they strive to be like the Scouts of old.