The College All Star game was special. NFL ended it because of the possibility of losing draft picks to injuries and loss of practices for same rookies. For us fans however it was a joy to watch.
I remember watching many of these games, these days, as you know, it would be out of the question for the NFL champs to play a team of college all-stars.
The Packers players paid through hard and intense practices over the next week. Coach Lombardi was less than happy, as one can imagine. During one film session, Dave Robinson, who was one of the All-Stars and now joining the Packers as their top pick in the 63 draft, was making a fine play on a Packer, heard Lombardi yelling "You let that guy beat you! He won't even make his pro team and he beat you!" As you can imagine, Robinson was a bit uncomfortable, and the veteran Packers "thanked him" for his efforts in making practice week miserable.
If the Packers had won 55-0, Lombardi would still have made practices miserable using the excuse that they had played against lousy college competition. No matter what the score or outcome, Lombardi would have found a reason to run them into the ground in practice.
Can you imagine being in that locker room after that game with Lombardi when you lose to the College All-Stars with what many consider Lombardi’s greatest Packer team, the 1962 squad?!? I’m sure their next practice wasn’t a cake-walk that’s for sure!!!
A couple of tidbits: the college "all-star" quarterbacks featured in this game went on to have undistinguished pro careers. Ron Vanderkelen's pro career was limited mostly to playing backup to Fran Tarkenton with the Minnesota Vikings for a few years. Glynn Griffing's pro career lasted all of one season as backup to Y.A. Tittle with the NY Giants.
Vanderkelen I'd heard of relative to the Rose Bowl but Griffing was a name that was new to me. I'm guessing Terry Baker, that year's Heisman winner, chose not to play in this game. Frankly, I wonder why anyone would want to participate given the real danger of becoming injured. I don't know, were these just graduated college players forced to play in this game or was the money they were paid pretty good for the era?
@@trevorhembrough1290 Yes, I know. I saw that game (on TV) and was crushed that the Giants lost. Y.A. Tittle was rendered totally ineffective by two vicious hits to his left knee (the first in Q1, then another in Q2) by Larry Morris of the Bears. Griffing replaced Tittle and was just as ineffective in that game as he had been in the regular season. The Giants scored zero points after Tittle left the game.
Junius Buchanan was more known by his nickname.. BUCK.. And the kickoff guy with a receiver or tight end’s number for PENN STATE.. had a pretty decent career with GREEN BAY as a linebacker.. Oh yeah, DAVE ROBINSON was darnmned good.. HALL OF FAME GOOD..
Receiver HUGH CAMPBELL of the ALL STARS would go on to win FIVE consecutive GREY CUPS as a head coach for the CANADIAN LEAGUE’s EDMONTON ESKIMOS(now ELKS), with one of his qbacks a guy named…WARREN MOON.. CAMPBELL also had a short lived career as an NFL HEAD COACH WITH HOUSTON’s OILERS with MOON once again, as the qback. MOON is in the PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME while CAMPBELL is in the CFL HALL OF FAME..CAMPBELL’s ESKS went 9-1 in the GREY CUP game, and he also won one as a player. His son is the current field boss of the B.C.LIONS(Vancouver, BC, CANADA.. He essentially brought MOON to the NFL by encouraging him to leave the CFL, just before CAMPBELL applied for the OILERS HEAD COACHING spot.. HUGH CAMPBELL played at WASHINGTON STATE before he made the COLLEGE ALL-STAR TEAM. CAMPBELL, a native CALIFORNIAN, also by one season missed coaching NFL HALL QB’er STEVE YOUNG IN THE USFL of the 1980’s.. with the LA EXPRESS.
Junious Buchanan 11:30. "Buck" I thought the Pack stumbled in '63 because they didn't win the division, but they went 11-2-1, with both losses to the Bears, who finished 11-1-2. I guess Moore is Hornung's replacement, he had his best season with 658 yards, 7 TD's and a 5.0 yard average.
Today, with a record like theirs and an actual playoff system, Green Bay would undoubtedly be a playoff team. And had there been playoffs, and GB & the Bears ended up playing for a third time, my money woulda been on the Pack to win that final game. Beating Vince Lombardi 3 times in one season strikes me as as likely as walking to the moon.
That's true. When Green Bay returned to the All-Star game in 1966, Lombardi drove them hard, reminding them of the 1963 game. The Packers won that one 38-0.
@@FrankB1001 Well, Coach Lombardi had a good right to be upset about losing to a bunch of college kids. His Packers were World Champions, the best team in the NFL. They had absolutely no business losing a game to college kids, even though Green Bay probably viewed the event as one of many meaningless exhibition games in a long season. Still, to the college kids, it was the most important game of their young lives.
This game ultimately became a very one sided affair. Two weeks to prepare for the NFL champion wasn't enough time plus these All Stars were only 22, raw, & vastly inexperienced in comparison. The strong possibility of a season or career ending injury in an essentially meaningless game made its extinction an easy decision to make.
Lots of different punters on the Packers until they got Chandler in '64 from the Giants: Max McGee, Boyd Dowler, Willie Wood. Hornung had been suspended for the season for gambling.
Yes, Hornung was suspended for gambling on GB to win, just as, that same year, the Lions' Alex Karras was suspended for the same reason, betting on his team to win.
What a piece of
history to watch.
Brings back a lot of memories. I thought watching Vince Lombardi light up a Newport
cigarette was
enlightening. lol.
Great memories, Jenks was a big part in the Bears winning the championship in 1963
Thanks John. I see your a football historian. I love these old films. Much appreciated.
The College All Star game was special. NFL ended it because of the possibility of losing draft picks to injuries and loss of practices for same rookies. For us fans however it was a joy to watch.
Ray Nitschke didn’t play. He would have scared those college kids half to death.
I remember watching many of these games, these days, as you know, it would be out of the question for the NFL champs to play a team of college all-stars.
I'm guessing Coach Lombardi was not exactly thrilled with this performance.
Great memories--Thanks so much for posting!!!
The Packers players paid through hard and intense practices over the next week. Coach Lombardi was less than happy, as one can imagine. During one film session, Dave Robinson, who was one of the All-Stars and now joining the Packers as their top pick in the 63 draft, was making a fine play on a Packer, heard Lombardi yelling "You let that guy beat you! He won't even make his pro team and he beat you!" As you can imagine, Robinson was a bit uncomfortable, and the veteran Packers "thanked him" for his efforts in making practice week miserable.
If the Packers had won 55-0, Lombardi would still have made practices miserable using the excuse that they had played against lousy college competition. No matter what the score or outcome, Lombardi would have found a reason to run them into the ground in practice.
Can you imagine being in that locker room after that game with Lombardi when you lose to the College All-Stars with what many consider Lombardi’s greatest Packer team, the 1962 squad?!? I’m sure their next practice wasn’t a cake-walk that’s for sure!!!
A couple of tidbits: the college "all-star" quarterbacks featured in this game went on to have undistinguished pro careers. Ron Vanderkelen's pro career was limited mostly to playing backup to Fran Tarkenton with the Minnesota Vikings for a few years. Glynn Griffing's pro career lasted all of one season as backup to Y.A. Tittle with the NY Giants.
So Griffing’s last NFL game was the Championship Game against the Bears in Wrigley. At least that was pretty cool.
Vanderkelen I'd heard of relative to the Rose Bowl but Griffing was a name that was new to me.
I'm guessing Terry Baker, that year's Heisman winner, chose not to play in this game.
Frankly, I wonder why anyone would want to participate given the real danger of becoming injured.
I don't know, were these just graduated college players forced to play in this game or was the money they were paid pretty good for the era?
@@trevorhembrough1290 Yes, I know. I saw that game (on TV) and was crushed that the Giants lost. Y.A. Tittle was rendered totally ineffective by two vicious hits to his left knee (the first in Q1, then another in Q2) by Larry Morris of the Bears. Griffing replaced Tittle and was just as ineffective in that game as he had been in the regular season. The Giants scored zero points after Tittle left the game.
2:16 Lombardi lighting a smoke on the field before the game. Another thing you’d never see in today’s game.
Of course not. Lombardi is dead.
Bobby Bell and Carl Eller played along the U Minn front line which set the Big 10 record for fewest points allowed during 1 season
Junius Buchanan was more known by his nickname.. BUCK..
And the kickoff guy with a receiver or tight end’s number for PENN STATE..
had a pretty decent career with GREEN BAY as a linebacker..
Oh yeah, DAVE ROBINSON was darnmned good..
HALL OF FAME GOOD..
Receiver HUGH CAMPBELL of the ALL STARS would go on to win FIVE consecutive GREY CUPS as a head coach for the CANADIAN LEAGUE’s EDMONTON ESKIMOS(now ELKS), with one of his qbacks a guy named…WARREN MOON..
CAMPBELL also had a short lived career as an NFL HEAD COACH WITH HOUSTON’s OILERS with MOON once again, as the qback.
MOON is in the PRO FOOTBALL HALL OF FAME while CAMPBELL is in the CFL HALL OF FAME..CAMPBELL’s ESKS went 9-1 in the GREY CUP game, and he also won one as a player.
His son is the current field boss of the B.C.LIONS(Vancouver, BC, CANADA..
He essentially brought MOON to the NFL by encouraging him to leave the CFL, just before CAMPBELL applied for the OILERS HEAD COACHING spot..
HUGH CAMPBELL played at WASHINGTON STATE before he made the COLLEGE ALL-STAR TEAM.
CAMPBELL, a native CALIFORNIAN, also by one season missed coaching NFL HALL QB’er STEVE YOUNG IN THE USFL of the 1980’s.. with the LA EXPRESS.
A huge thank you for sharing this awesome video!
This game was televised on ABC. And Lombardi must have missed what VanderKelen did in the Rose Bowl seven months before.
Junious Buchanan 11:30. "Buck" I thought the Pack stumbled in '63 because they didn't win the division, but they went 11-2-1, with both losses to the Bears, who finished 11-1-2. I guess Moore is Hornung's replacement, he had his best season with 658 yards, 7 TD's and a 5.0 yard average.
Today, with a record like theirs and an actual playoff system, Green Bay would undoubtedly be a playoff team.
And had there been playoffs, and GB & the Bears ended up playing for a third time, my money woulda been on the Pack to win that final game.
Beating Vince Lombardi 3 times in one season strikes me as as likely as walking to the moon.
Boyd Dowler star receiver for Packers also was the punter . That would not happen today.
Packers training camp must have been tough the week after this. Lombardi hated losing at anything.
I love how the photographers are on the playing field and up and down the sidelines. That would be irritating for coaches today.
how many games did the college kids win or tie
What the Hell is going on out here?!!!
I have heard that Coach Lombardi was very, very, upset with his team after this 20-17 loss to the College All Stars.
That's true. When Green Bay returned to the All-Star game in 1966, Lombardi drove them hard, reminding them of the 1963 game. The Packers won that one 38-0.
@@FrankB1001 Well, Coach Lombardi had a good right to be upset about losing to a bunch of college kids. His Packers were World Champions, the best team in the NFL. They had absolutely no business losing a game to college kids, even though Green Bay probably viewed the event as one of many meaningless exhibition games in a long season. Still, to the college kids, it was the most important game of their young lives.
And Lombardi reminded them again in 1967, when for the second year in a row they won by shutout, 27-0.
This game ultimately became a very one sided affair.
Two weeks to prepare for the NFL champion wasn't enough time plus these All Stars were only 22, raw, & vastly inexperienced in comparison.
The strong possibility of a season or career ending injury in an essentially meaningless game made its extinction an easy decision to make.
I see it was restored.
Where is my post?
HAHA!!! Packers lost to a bunch of Amateurs!!!!
Lots of different punters on the Packers until they got Chandler in '64 from the Giants: Max McGee, Boyd Dowler, Willie Wood. Hornung had been suspended for the season for gambling.
Yes, Hornung was suspended for gambling on GB to win, just as, that same year, the Lions' Alex Karras was suspended for the same reason, betting on his team to win.
This game was televised on ABC. And Lombardi must have missed what VanderKelen did in the Rose Bowl seven months before.
This game was televised on ABC. And Lombardi must have missed what VanderKelen did in the Rose Bowl seven months before.