The hardware on the bench, the soldering iron, parts bins, the clothing, the personalities. This is perhaps the most accurate and realistic depiction of electrical engineers ever firmed. A standout scene in an outstanding classic film.
Totally agree! This scene could have been my office 4 years later at a "large midrange computer company". The "repair" office was a couple rooms away and off the raised floor. Only thing that probably wasn't realistic, was the people sitting in the data center. That would have been a cold seat...I always left a jacket/sweatshirt at my desk because the data center was probably in the upper 50's/low 60's F....and if you were near a hole/vent in the floor working...you froze from the air movement.
"Remember you told me to tell you when you are acting rudely and insensitively?" LOVE that line! You can imagine Jim and Mr. PH having many discussions about workplace etiquette.
I've been working in IT for over 25 years and I have encountered people like Mr. Potato Head every day 😅😅😅 My first boss looked and acted just like Jim. He was a genius, s great guy, and the ultimate ball buster. I miss working with him. Good times...
Only slightly related. I was confronted about something when16/17 by my mom. I started to open my mouth to explain, but could see she wasn't listening. So lowered my head and said Yes Mommy Dearest. She got soo maaad, it still makes me laugh to this day thinking about it, 30+ years later.
Grief ... saw this movie 10 times back in the 80's. It was walking distance from home (about 5 miles then) at the dollar cinema all summer. -Back when you could walk home in pitch black, at 10 years old, and your parents would not be called out for neglect.
That was a totally different era... If you were (as of back then) a rare-breed who knew your way around a computer, the entire world's computer ecology was viewed as your playground. Computer viruses and malware were only things you read about in research papers. Back then you could remotely connect to most any college main-frame and access at least basic information like shared folders, and view which users were currently logged on. You could even initiate text chats. Today an IT person would have a heart attack if he saw computers on his network so visibly exposed to the outside world.
An historic scene because people used to think computer nerds were all middle aged scientist men with lab coats and crew cuts. This accurately portrays them as excitable autists in button-ups and grumpy fat guys in tshirts.
The 1968 DARPA project that led to internet gathered up tech nerds who had been kicked out of MIT, IBM, Army etc. for not conforming to rules and laws, let them work together to see what happens. Phreakers and weirdos who normally weren't allowed within 500 feet of a terminal, and give them free computer time. By 1972 they invented the internet and multiplayer games so computer labs could fight and play and argue amongst themselves about robots and music and Star Trek and shit, stuff you normally can't do when a computer costs $10 million and $100/hour to run.
You're probably thinking of the WWW (World Wide Web). His legislation linked the net with telecommunications industry to bring it to the public. There was no "web" to "browse" in the 80s, or ISPs. You had to call a computer directly over voice lines with a modem, and there were entirely seperate networks like FidoNet and Usenet for mail and news that would eventually get folded into the modern internet in the 90s. That's why Matthew Broderick dials random numbers on his computer looking for access, after this movie came out that process became known as "war dialing".
This was when I "fell in love" with Ally Sheedy. She sure was beautiful. And then some. (and she still looks very good now at 50 -- good genes, I guess) Eddie Deezen (weird geeky nerdy "Mr. Potato Head" Marvin) mostly does voice work. He's 55+ now and has had a decent working career. (which shows that ANYONE can get into "show biz")
When my brother & I saw this scene in the cinema, we and the entire audience cracked up laughing. Though most of us weren't familiar with this environment or culuture, it struck all of us as uniquely insular and hilarious along with being true these characters. Classic scene & film.
@ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚHi : Nah, although it is referenced in that film: Filmmakers used to have no problem with doing their homework to make a much better movie as a result. _War Dialers_ were actually existent programs that real hackers used for years before the above 1983 film. (I had a few war dialer programs myself for my C64 back in the 8-bit days, though I never used one.) So, no, _war dialers_ were not really something made-up for the movie. Want to have your computer hammer someone's phone for you, call after call after call for hours or longer automated by your computer? Well that's what they made war dialers for quite long before 1983 hehehehehehe
I remember running a war dialer, calling like 10,000 800 numbers, and logging all of the ones that made a modem connection. At the end of the month, I got a ton of calls from people asking me why I called them (they were charged for my free 800 number call).
I love how David knows how to massage both of them for information. He pumps up Jim's confidence and ego by acting like a starry-eyed fanboy. Then with the loud mouthed Melvin, he challenges him to prove how smart he is. I guess David is the Kevin Mitnick type.
That was the only way I could explain to my then-4 year old daughter who Eddie Deezen was. When I told her that he did the voice of Mandark, she said, “he looks like Mandark too!” 😁
@Joe Masters : Great question! And now that you mention it, I wish I actually knew that exactly myself too hehehehehe Believe it or not, despite the computing power of a typical 64-bit desktop micro-computer today (early-2020), mini-computers and mainframe computers are still in usage, albeit probably vastly advanced and upgraded since 1983, now thirty-seven years ago and counting.
Back doors are not secret. That goes as well for Raspberry Pi, lurking, "send SMS to", social engineering and more. Watch Mr. Robot. It's intense and sometime disturbing. As I have suggested before, technological singularity is on your doorstep. (Humans)
That oscilloscope on the desk looks like a Tektronix 465 or maybe a 475 series. Back in the day they were considered the Rolls-Royce of scopes. With a starting price of about $2500, it was completely out of my reach!
They censored the Protovision connection to the Military WOPR/Joshua, because real life Video Game companies do have close involvements with the Military. David mentioned he got the list when he was breaking into Protovision to play their games. th-cam.com/video/n31fogbmQTg/w-d-xo.htmlm40 Jim stated the games didn't came from Protovision by just looking at their names. Great! Call of Duty came from the DoD! Thanks! th-cam.com/video/n31fogbmQTg/w-d-xo.htmlm 2:12, 2:18, 2:25. David doubted the games came from the Military. Anyway. David was never shown to have dialed Protovision's 555-8633. Out of 399-, 437-, 767-, 936-; none is revealed to have Protovision's server. Instead of researching a Protovision programmer. David only got Falken's Maze to start his research. Great thing there's a book with a title including the words "The Falken Maze". 'In Sonic Adventure 2, Eggman basically used his grandfather Gerald's Back Door, by entering the name of Eggman's cousin, Maria. Eggman checked Gerald's records. ("Joshua"≈"Jesus"≈'Chosen One'. "Maria"≈"Mary≈"Maryam")' Protovision was never mentioned by name again. As if David never searched for them. The system David hacked is indeed Protovision, but they censored it, because it implied Video Game companies're working closely with the military. Of course in 1992's Sneakers, the hackers sneaked into a 'Toy Company', owned by the Mafia. Oh… Someone is trying to say something…
That's Eddie Deezen. You have inadvertently insulted every single 90s kid, because that is the voice actor of the man, the myth, the legend: *Mandark.*
Love this movie, and the clip! But I'm confused... Malvin here is Eddie Deezen, from Million Dollar Mystery, 1941, Grease 2, and Spy Hard. How does Pirillo come into play?
This supposed to be a scene involving a naught dirty joke with a double entendre. They edited it by leaving Jennifer outside. "That girl is standing listening and you're telling her about a back door?" The editors're obviously upset, that's why they put in the whole 'back door is no secret' and a foolish comment of 'best trick'. David of course have to roleplay as the clueless newbie Jennifer, because she's not part of the conversation party in the final version.
I like this film a lot. I have a copy of it. However, I've taken some coding and realized that I hate computers... as you can obviously see by my using one of them. I hate coding. I can tell you that.
Is "Falken's Maze" from WarGames the inspiration behind Arnold's maze? :falkens maze...teaching a machine, how to think!%THIS BLACK OUT SUCKS....VERY BORING! ....
Malvin and Jim had to be secret lovers. That relationship without a doubt has to extend past work hours based on the hatred they have for one another XD
The hardware on the bench, the soldering iron, parts bins, the clothing, the personalities. This is perhaps the most accurate and realistic depiction of electrical engineers ever firmed. A standout scene in an outstanding classic film.
Totally agree! This scene could have been my office 4 years later at a "large midrange computer company". The "repair" office was a couple rooms away and off the raised floor. Only thing that probably wasn't realistic, was the people sitting in the data center. That would have been a cold seat...I always left a jacket/sweatshirt at my desk because the data center was probably in the upper 50's/low 60's F....and if you were near a hole/vent in the floor working...you froze from the air movement.
@@itsnotme07 server rooms 🥶
Then you start calling the brand names of the equipment (Tektronix) and look for electrostatic wrist straps :D
This scene is brilliant. I could've watched an entire movie of Jim and Melvin.
"Remember you told me to tell you when you are acting rudely and insensitively?"
LOVE that line! You can imagine Jim and Mr. PH having many discussions about workplace etiquette.
I've been working in IT for over 25 years and I have encountered people like Mr. Potato Head every day 😅😅😅
My first boss looked and acted just like Jim. He was a genius, s great guy, and the ultimate ball buster. I miss working with him.
Good times...
Mr. Potato head!! Mr. Potato head!!!! Back doors are not secrets....
Yeah, that line always cracked me up😅
It's strange how many times I think of this scene. I think it was very well done.
So do I 😊
Yeah, and the movie is 41 years old
I would watch a movie based on these two computer guys. This scene always cracked me the fuck up as a kid and still does today.
Ally Sheedy smiling in the background thinking "you guys are such nerdy geeks."
Actually there’s a little bit of admiration in that grin. Or at least curiosity for a world she hasn’t faced.
"I can't believe it, Jim. That girl standing over there listening and you're telling her about her back door!?"
'our' back door...anyway
Mr. Potato head--MR. POTATO HEAD!!! BACK DOORS ARE NOT SECRETS!!!
That is totally not Chris Pirillo. That is Eddie Deezen.
Matthew Lufcy Why isn't this the top comment?
+Matthew Lufcy I do see a resemblance between the two though.
Eugene from "Grease"
Also Herbie in 1941!
Not to mention that Chris Pirillo would have been 10 years old when this movie came out.
I called my Italian teacher Mr. Potato Head, and got sent to the office..
Well, I called my English teacher something far worse, and got sent home!
Did you tell him backdoors are not secrets?
mvol5973 That was funny
Only slightly related. I was confronted about something when16/17 by my mom. I started to open my mouth to explain, but could see she wasn't listening. So lowered my head and said Yes Mommy Dearest. She got soo maaad, it still makes me laugh to this day thinking about it, 30+ years later.
Today we have a "president" named Mr. Potato Head.
Thank you so much for posting this scene because I've been looking for the Mr potato Head part
Grief ... saw this movie 10 times back in the 80's. It was walking distance from home (about 5 miles then) at the dollar cinema all summer. -Back when you could walk home in pitch black, at 10 years old, and your parents would not be called out for neglect.
Let us not forget who was pres during that timeframe.
Good ole Ronnie "government isn't the solution- government is the PROBLEM" Reagan.
Nuff said.
Dang straight. Well, one of em for sure.
Damn, I've seen this a dozen times and never realized Jim was played by Maury Chaykin. Good actor, may he RIP.
He was also good in Iron Eagle 2
Yeah. Try "Whale Music."
Entrapment
not being able to hear the library scene music that follows is hurting me
Love this movie!
That was a totally different era... If you were (as of back then) a rare-breed who knew your way around a computer, the entire world's computer ecology was viewed as your playground. Computer viruses and malware were only things you read about in research papers. Back then you could remotely connect to most any college main-frame and access at least basic information like shared folders, and view which users were currently logged on. You could even initiate text chats. Today an IT person would have a heart attack if he saw computers on his network so visibly exposed to the outside world.
Best scene in the movie !
Going to meet Eddie Deezen at the end of the month. :)
An historic scene because people used to think computer nerds were all middle aged scientist men with lab coats and crew cuts. This accurately portrays them as excitable autists in button-ups and grumpy fat guys in tshirts.
The 1968 DARPA project that led to internet gathered up tech nerds who had been kicked out of MIT, IBM, Army etc. for not conforming to rules and laws, let them work together to see what happens. Phreakers and weirdos who normally weren't allowed within 500 feet of a terminal, and give them free computer time.
By 1972 they invented the internet and multiplayer games so computer labs could fight and play and argue amongst themselves about robots and music and Star Trek and shit, stuff you normally can't do when a computer costs $10 million and $100/hour to run.
I thought Al Gore did that
You're probably thinking of the WWW (World Wide Web). His legislation linked the net with telecommunications industry to bring it to the public. There was no "web" to "browse" in the 80s, or ISPs. You had to call a computer directly over voice lines with a modem, and there were entirely seperate networks like FidoNet and Usenet for mail and news that would eventually get folded into the modern internet in the 90s.
That's why Matthew Broderick dials random numbers on his computer looking for access, after this movie came out that process became known as "war dialing".
This was when I "fell in love" with Ally Sheedy. She sure was beautiful. And then some.
(and she still looks very good now at 50 -- good genes, I guess)
Eddie Deezen (weird geeky nerdy "Mr. Potato Head" Marvin) mostly does voice work.
He's 55+ now and has had a decent working career. (which shows that ANYONE can get
into "show biz")
Mr Potato head! Mr Potato head!!!
Luv it!!
i weep, this was a great movie. could never be made today.
Why not?
I love this scene so much.
“MISTER POTATO HEAD, MISTER POTATO HEAD, BACK DOORS ARE NOT SECRETS!!!”
Jim you're giving away all our best TRECKS!
They're not tricks
Boy, you guys are stupid. I got this all figured out.
Oh, yeah, Malvin. How would you do it?
theaterwide biotoxic and chemical warfare
global thermonuclear war
'Toto I don't think we're in Kansans anymore' LOL
Jim is possibly the prototype for Comic Book Guy.
Jim is actually competent at something and if he lost some weight would be kind of handsome.
When my brother & I saw this scene in the cinema, we and the entire audience cracked up laughing. Though most of us weren't familiar with this environment or culuture, it struck all of us as uniquely insular and hilarious along with being true these characters. Classic scene & film.
This is basically a prequel to ‘The IT Crowd’ tv series.
the term *War Dialing* comes from the movie *War Games*
No actually War Dialing was around LONG before this movie came out, one of the first War Dialers was Tone Loc
@ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚHi
:
Nah, although it is referenced in that film: Filmmakers used to have no problem with doing their homework to make a much better movie as a result. _War Dialers_ were actually existent programs that real hackers used for years before the above 1983 film. (I had a few war dialer programs myself for my C64 back in the 8-bit days, though I never used one.) So, no, _war dialers_ were not really something made-up for the movie.
Want to have your computer hammer someone's phone for you, call after call after call for hours or longer automated by your computer? Well that's what they made war dialers for quite long before 1983 hehehehehehe
I remember running a war dialer, calling like 10,000 800 numbers, and logging all of the ones that made a modem connection. At the end of the month, I got a ton of calls from people asking me why I called them (they were charged for my free 800 number call).
This is one of my fave bits besides all the gear in David’s room ,the mister potato head bit cracks me up
I love how David knows how to massage both of them for information. He pumps up Jim's confidence and ego by acting like a starry-eyed fanboy. Then with the loud mouthed Melvin, he challenges him to prove how smart he is.
I guess David is the Kevin Mitnick type.
This scene kinda of makes me sad because back then IT jobs consisted of mostly American workers and now is overruned by H1Bs.
I happen to work in IT, it is nothing like this today.
Actually, It's Eddie Deezen, who also voiced the character in the cartoon Dexter's Laboratory!
That was the only way I could explain to my then-4 year old daughter who Eddie Deezen was. When I told her that he did the voice of Mandark, she said, “he looks like Mandark too!” 😁
I wonder how all those computers in that room fare against a standard desktop today. ;)
@Joe Masters
:
Great question! And now that you mention it, I wish I actually knew that exactly myself too hehehehehe
Believe it or not, despite the computing power of a typical 64-bit desktop micro-computer today (early-2020), mini-computers and mainframe computers are still in usage, albeit probably vastly advanced and upgraded since 1983, now thirty-seven years ago and counting.
@@codeoptimizationware2803 yes, ♾️ vast in all factions of the technical infrastructure a ♾️ continuum
"These guys can get a little nervous". 😎
This is totally me and my best friend. I need that smiley face shirt.
1:17 David knocked on Jim's "back door". lol
Back doors are not secret. That goes as well for Raspberry Pi, lurking, "send SMS to", social engineering and more. Watch Mr. Robot. It's intense and sometime disturbing. As I have suggested before, technological singularity is on your doorstep. (Humans)
They correctly portrayed Aspergers before it was well known.
It's the IT Crowd
I bet Mr. Potato Head was Bill Gates !!
That oscilloscope on the desk looks like a Tektronix 465 or maybe a 475 series. Back in the day they were considered the Rolls-Royce of scopes. With a starting price of about $2500, it was completely out of my reach!
This is not Chris Pirillo, it's Eddie Deezen and the character name is Malvin.
“JIM, ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THOSE 5 MINUTES?” That dork almost got Ralph macchio busted, fucking guy.
They censored the Protovision connection to the Military WOPR/Joshua, because real life Video Game companies do have close involvements with the Military.
David mentioned he got the list when he was breaking into Protovision to play their games.
th-cam.com/video/n31fogbmQTg/w-d-xo.htmlm40
Jim stated the games didn't came from Protovision by just looking at their names. Great! Call of Duty came from the DoD! Thanks!
th-cam.com/video/n31fogbmQTg/w-d-xo.htmlm
2:12, 2:18, 2:25. David doubted the games came from the Military.
Anyway. David was never shown to have dialed Protovision's 555-8633. Out of 399-, 437-, 767-, 936-; none is revealed to have Protovision's server.
Instead of researching a Protovision programmer. David only got Falken's Maze to start his research. Great thing there's a book with a title including the words "The Falken Maze".
'In Sonic Adventure 2, Eggman basically used his grandfather Gerald's Back Door, by entering the name of Eggman's cousin, Maria. Eggman checked Gerald's records. ("Joshua"≈"Jesus"≈'Chosen One'. "Maria"≈"Mary≈"Maryam")'
Protovision was never mentioned by name again. As if David never searched for them.
The system David hacked is indeed Protovision, but they censored it, because it implied Video Game companies're working closely with the military. Of course in 1992's Sneakers, the hackers sneaked into a 'Toy Company', owned by the Mafia.
Oh… Someone is trying to say something…
That's Eddie Deezen. You have inadvertently insulted every single 90s kid, because that is the voice actor of the man, the myth, the legend: *Mandark.*
Umm nooo, look it up on IMDB. Mr Potato Head actor is Eddie Deezen
Melvin has Asperger's Syndrome.
Eddie Deezen is melvin. Not chris pirillo.
wonder if the Melvins got their name from the nerdy dude here
ozn ebn this character’s name is “Malvin”
Love this movie, and the clip! But I'm confused... Malvin here is Eddie Deezen, from Million Dollar Mystery, 1941, Grease 2, and Spy Hard. How does Pirillo come into play?
Show 0:46-0:54 to any GenZer and ask him/her what these are supposed to be.
RIP Mr. Potato Head
O shit pup has that same solder iron ^^
Its simba and mandark lol
Back door = Back oriffice, jar jiar jiar!!
Do these two have their own movie?
Eddie Deezen is the best!!
1:25 OH LOOK ITS MANDARK!
the back door is Ukraine. You've not idea how much 80s predict reality..
Malvin = Sheldon Cooper.
Lt Jon Dunbar?
Kinda looks like he could be Chris' dad, though.
Malvin's hacking intution > Zuckerberg in "The Social Network" with his emacs and wget
The girl was like WTF is wrong with that dude?
This supposed to be a scene involving a naught dirty joke with a double entendre. They edited it by leaving Jennifer outside.
"That girl is standing listening and you're telling her about a back door?"
The editors're obviously upset, that's why they put in the whole 'back door is no secret' and a foolish comment of 'best trick'. David of course have to roleplay as the clueless newbie Jennifer, because she's not part of the conversation party in the final version.
Who else is watching this after watching Finding Your Roots?
Csulb computer room. Control data cyber 750.
I like this film a lot. I have a copy of it. However, I've taken some coding and realized that I hate computers... as you can obviously see by my using one of them. I hate coding. I can tell you that.
Oh you're god
1:36
Oooooohhh schnaaap
No such things as "back doors".
+Da_Fonz You're fooling no-one Mr NSA!
That's what they want you to think!
There's a backdoor within a backdoor on some common routers.
I used to type all 1s into Microsoft software license prompts. Got a lot of free ware that way. Easiest back door ever
That's not what your girlfriend said 🤣
love it :-D
Is "Falken's Maze" from WarGames the inspiration behind Arnold's maze? :falkens maze...teaching a machine, how to think!%THIS BLACK OUT SUCKS....VERY BORING! ....
Damn to those who say pure jews dont have a certain face explain marvin🧐 a jew goblin
Malvin and Jim had to be secret lovers. That relationship without a doubt has to extend past work hours based on the hatred they have for one another XD
no.
Falcon maze air Force falcon f16 backbone of the air Force how will they pay for all those hundred-million-dollar airplanes
🐬😎🕴️
I accept bad acting only in classic movies.
Mr potatoe head.
Mr potatoe head!
Classic
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