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Fun fact. ...When Wyatt Earp killed Curly Bill Brocius, the real story was WAAAAAYYY crazier than depicted in the movie Tombstone. I learned this from that Western Docu-series "Wild West Tech" hosted by that Keith Carradine guy. Earp was riding out ahead and stopped to let his horse drink from a stream when he was ambushed by Curly Bill and the Cowboys. They had him surrounded and were firing at Earp from all sides. He stayed calm while trying grab the reins of his panicking horse but strangely no bullet hit Wyatt Earp or his horse. The rest of Earp's posse heard all the shooting from a distance but hadn't arrived yet. Finally Curly Bill was like fuckit, he grabbed his double barrel shotgun and waded out into the stream. Bill fired, missed from point blank range, it went right thru Earp's long coat. Curly Bill fired a second shot missed again. By that time Earp pulled his shotgun and blew two holes in Curly Bill. This left the Cowboys in shock as Bill lay dead. Soon after Holliday, Creek, Texas Jack and Macmasters arrived and drove off the remaining Cowboys. Carradine displayed Earp's long coat that was on loan from a museum. It was riddled with bullet holes and buckshot, but no trace of Earp's blood. A weird true story
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According to Val Kilmer, Kurt Russell is the reason this movie was as good as it was, he essentially directed it because the director, while a good writer had no clue how to make a movie. There are some good interviews about if you can find them.
It was also mentioned that Kurt Russel gave his word to not say anything until after the orriginal director died, Kurt still stayed silent. Val spilled the beans
Are we talking about Kevin Jarre or George P. Cosmatos? Both of them were directors for Tombstone and both of them were involved in Rambo 2 so who’s getting bashed here?
The director's son, Panos Cosmatos, was also on set doing second unit jazz. Maybe he helped out too? (Sonny boy's the director of Mandy and Beyond the Black Rainbow, fyi.)
@@tacticalgrace6456 I think he's referring to Kevin Jarre, who wrote the script and was the initial director of TOMBSTONE but was fired shortly after it began, partly due to him being a directorial novice. Cosmatos was essentially a director for hire but was more of a stand-in who directed some second-unit stuff while Russell ghost-directed the majority of the film.
So many one liners. I spent 7 yrs out to sea on a Naval ship. Everyone on every ship knew every line word for word. We would take turns saying each line.
@@pomaimoikeha829 In the script it was Huckleberry and meant I'm a trouble maker and was based off from Huckleberry Finn. The Huckleberry Finn character was created in 1876, before the events of Tombstone but didn't really become popular until afterward. Holliday "might" have know about Huckleberry but definitely would have know about a huckle bearer.
"You gonna do something or just stand there & bleed?" has got to be one of the most epic movie quotes out there! Love this movie, Kurt Russell & Val Kilmer are such badasses
The absolute apex of Vilmer's career. Doc was probably supposed to be an interesting side character in conception. But he dominated this movie with his charm and wit.
Years later Val has come out and said Kurt Russell actually directed the film and gave up a lot of his screen time to get the film done. Also I don't think Michael Biehn get enough credit. He plays off Val beautifully!
James watching Tombstone - "Aaaaw man im getting like heavy Read Dead Redemption vibes right now..." Me playing RDR2 - "Aaaaw man im getting like heavy Tombstone vibes right now..."
Once upon a Time in the West, I also felt opened the door for so many modern Westerns. I know all the Clint movies had already come out, but that movie still moved the dial on what a western could be IMO. It's also the only movie Henry Fonda ever played a villain, and boy that villain would give Johnny Ringo and Curly Bill a run for their money.
Sam Elliott is a cowboy. No matter what genre or time period the movie is in, he’s still a cowboy and a damn good one. His parents are from Texas, and he began acting when westerns ruled the cinema. He married once, and she’s still his wife. He’s a good solid dude.
Huckle bearer which is the piece of hardware on a casket that you carry the casket with.” In other words, Holliday was warning Ringo that he was going to put him six feet under.
Love this movie. Another great western to add to the list is 3:10 to Yuma (2007) with Russell Crowe and Christian Bale. An amazing remake of a oldie. Highly recommend this one. The music is also amazing.
“Wyatt Earp,” starring Kevin Costner, opened close to Tombstone, one of the 1st times studios were competing w/similar movies. The Wyatt Earp studio (WB) decided to play dirty and snatch-up all the avail western garb from every studio warehouse so the Tombstone studio would have a harder time finding wardrobe. (But, in the end, Tombstone turned out to be the better film.)
Hmm, not so sure about that. 'An American Werewolf in London' vs 'The Howling' (1981), 'Vice Versa' vs 'Big' (1988), 'Turner and Hooch' vs 'K-9' (1989). From memory so there's no doubt more. Even in the same years as 'Tombstone' vs 'Wyatt Earp' there was 'Kalifornia' vs 'Natural Born Killers' (a "twinsy" squared, since Juliette Lewis stars in both :). I guess it _might_ be true to say it's become more common _since_ then though. (ETA: How on Earth could I forget 'Iron Eagle' vs 'Top Gun' (1986) ?? :)
@@anonymes2884 No. That’s not what I meant by similar movies. Studios are always making films based on whatever’s popular at the time. There are many werewolf, crime, and military films; but they’re not the same story. Both Tombstone and Wyatt Earp are ABOUT Wyatt Earp. (Btw, Vice Versa is more comparable to Freaky Friday.)
@@bekind3931 Ah OK. "Similar" isn't the best word choice then IMO. Disagree with your take. 'An American Werewolf in London' and 'The Howling were both contemporary films about werewolves grounding them in a more realistic setting - they weren't just coincidentally both about werewolves because werewolves were popular in 1981. 'Top Gun' and 'Iron Eagle' are both about young hotheaded pilots who overcome personal demons to win the day. 'Turner and Hooch' and 'K-9' are both buddy cop movies where one of the buddies is a dog. 'Kalifornia' and 'Natural Born Killers' both feature psychopathic couples on a road trip killing spree etc. Those are hardly just generic types only similar in the way all "war movies" or "crime movies" are similar. Instead (like "Dante's Peak" vs "Volcano", "Deep Impact" vs "Armageddon", "Antz" vs "A Bug's Life" etc. in later years) they're similar movies released near to each other where studios were in competition - as you said initially, despite apparently meaning something more specific than "similar" connotes. Fair point though, "Like Father Like Son" (1987) vs "Vice Versa" (1988) works better - as well as plot, the different release years actually make for a closer fit (that said, "body swap comedy" arguably _is_ actually its own specific sub-genre, at least by now anyway - in fact "'Freaky Friday' movies" alone might count as one :). (i'd also argue 'Tombstone' and 'Wyatt Earp' _aren't_ the same story BTW - though there's obviously crossover, 'Wyatt Earp' is much more of a biopic. As the name suggests, it's _actually_ about Wyatt Earp, starting from when he's a boy and following his life from young adulthood up to and beyond Tombstone)
@@anonymes2884 Don’t know why my orig comment is such a point of contention for you. I remember WB was not happy that Tombstone was opening 1st. Both film’s big scenes were the gunfight at the OK Corral and time in AZ bc those are the most famous of his life. I imagine WB thought once ppl see the gunfight, they may not go to WE bc they’ll feel they’ve already seen the big moment; or, worse - it’ll invite comparison as to whom did it better. And they might’ve been right. Tombstone profited; WE tanked. The volcano and asteroid movies and maybe one other biopic had the same situation where the studios wanted to be the 1st to open for the same reason; but, the films you named are not in that category. “Hotheaded pilots who overcome personal demons to win the day” is not a story; it’s a tagline. You could replace “pilots” w/any other occupation and describe half a dozen movies. (Every story needs conflict, and there are only so many, man against himself being one.) Iron Eagle is closer to the Chuck Norris or Sly Stallone movies about one man going to another country to rescue ppl, but I imagine you chose Top Gun bc it opened the same year. They’re not even close to the same story either. One is an adult Navy pilot trying to pass flight school to become a fighter pilot. The other is a teenager who was rejected from the USAF and steals a plane to fly to another country on a rescue mission. No one would ever confuse Iron Eagle for Top Gun or vice-versa. No one. Bc they’re not the same. If you want to believe I’m mistaken, that’s fine. But geez, man, I don’t know why this is such a big deal for you.
@@bekind3931 Actually your _original_ comment was just one where I thought "Nah, what about all those previous similar movies released near each other ?" and so I offered counterexamples (it seemed like a simple mistaken claim). Your _second_ comment is where it got interesting though because you then seemed to be saying the examples I gave actually _aren't_ similar competing movies but just the usual similar ideas or from the same broad genre (so basically entirely coincidental) and though we could quibble on some, that _none_ of them struck you as noticeably similar is interesting (because to me they _obviously_ are and now having asked the googster, at least some show up on lists of similar movies released at the same time too so my position is boringly mainstream whereas, at least in my experience, _yours_ is unique). That aside, we're just talking right ? Film fans disagreeing is nothing new. There're no hard feelings (on my part at least). If you're interpreting "long posts" as "Boy, this person must be super angry about this and consider it a 'big deal'" then _really_ don't. Rather interpret them as "Boy, this person must be in Covid lockdown, very bored and frankly somewhat starved of conversation". Jump off any time, fellow rando on the internet :). "Both film’s big scenes were the gunfight at the OK Corral and time in AZ bc those are the most famous of his life." Exactly, hence, as I say, "crossover" - a film featuring Neil Armstrong will probably have the Moon landing and if it doesn't that's a very deliberate choice. 'Tombstone' is _about_ the events at Tombstone (in which Wyatt Earp plays a pivotal role). 'Wyatt Earp' is _about_ the life of Wyatt Earp (in which the events at Tombstone play a pivotal role). Does that make them the same story ? To me, very obviously not (WE is over 3 hrs long and we're past half-way before Tombstone even comes up). Does it make them _similar_ ? Of course. "You could replace “pilots” w/any other occupation and describe half a dozen movies." Yes. If you change the premise of a movie it will be more like another movie (and apart from sometimes small differences, many movies are quite generic). Is that really your argument ? If you change 'K-9' to a human partnership it becomes just another buddy cop movie (on some level that's actually the hook yes ? "Hah, it's funny cuz one's a dog when _usually_ one _isn't_ a dog !" :). The point is, neither 'Turner & Hooch' or 'K-9' _did_ have human partnerships and they came out within months of each other from competing studios. Hell, even two we may agree on, "Dante's Peak" and "Volcano", don't have the same story, setting or characters and if you change "Volcano" to an earthquake it's much more like, well, "Earthquake" (1974). But so what ? The fact is "Volcano" _didn't_ have an earthquake and _didn't_ come out in 1974 so they _are_ similar movies released near each other from competing studios. What's interesting to me is you don't seem to see that. "No one would ever confuse Iron Eagle for Top Gun or vice-versa. No one. Bc they’re not the same." No one (in this discussion) has _claimed_ they're the same either (remember to take issue with what i've _actually_ said, not what the version of me in your head has said :). But at least some do in fact consider them _similar_ in the sense I and others mean (see below) - being the same is not a requirement, being noticeably similar _and_ close enough together in time to be competing is. The same premise can be enough (note though, "military film" for instance is _not_ a premise, nor is "Western", "crime film" etc. - T&H/'K-9' _aren't_ lumped together because they're both "cop movies" or even both "buddy cop movies"). Put it this way, if you google "similar movies released same time" as I now have you'll see many lists (it's the internet after all :) _at least_ one of which has 'Top Gun'/'Iron Eagle', more than one with "Turner & Hooch'/'K-9' and many with e.g. 'The Prestige'/'The Illusionist' or "Antz"/"A Bug's Life" (and _every_ list i've seen includes the obvious candidates like "Dante's Peak"/"Volcano" and "Deep Impact"/"Armageddon"). _None_ of those feature the same characters or the same story specifics and plenty differ quite markedly in everything except their premise ("asteroid threatens Earth", "erupting volcano threatens people" etc.). In other words none of them seem to meet _your_ criteria for "studios... competing w/similar movies". And yet that's _exactly_ what almost everyone understands them to be (hence the reason for digging into it at length - you're unique in this respect, be happy. I mean, uniquely, almost unfathomably, wrong IMO but still... :).
“Why it’s the drunk piano player....your so drunk you can’t hit nothin’. In fact, you’re probably seeing double.” “I’ve got two guns. One for each of ya.”
I think this film is the most accurate Western. The cloths, the way they talk. Every town in the wild west had Optum tents. But this is the only western to show it.
@@OroborusFMA Opium is a drug made from the poppy flower. When they were building the railroad across America, most of it was done with Chinese workers, they brought opium to america. A lot of it! It's what Curly was smoking when he killed the Sheriff and it's what Wyatt's wife was addicted too.
There is a great story about Bill Paxson and Tombstone. Paxson was at a play or something and, before it started, ran into a friend. The friend says "Bill, my brother is here with me and Tombstone is his favorite movie." Paxson's friend points out the brother sitting up front with his back to the both of them. Bill Paxson walks away and heads towards the Tombstone fan and sits down right behind him and leans forward and starts talking in his ear as brother number one stands back and watches his sitting brother perk up. Paxson leaves. Brother number 1 goes up to brother number 2 and asks him what Paxson said. The brother says " He said every line he had in Tombstone into my ear. " //// Bill Paxson is the man. RIP BP. the coolest in real life. Only person to be killed by a Predator, an Alien and a Terminator. Miss ya, Buddy.
UNDERRATED? Memes alone Kilmer's role is widely known and appreciated. It's the one stand-out of the movie. If not for him the movie wouldn't be as known, even people who hasn't seen it yet if you mean Award, then yes. He should have gotten Oscar for it. Though the actual winner - Tommy lee Jones in The Fugitive - deserved it too. But universally Val's performance is wayy more remembered among the greats.
The awards bro. You get it I’m blown away no nominations It’s insane Exactly we know it’s great and I’m sure we quote it all the time to our friends. It’s just weird how it’s never talked about among actors and other awards shows the way it should be. Fascinating
The red sash cowboys was a plot device, and there are some editing choices that speed up the action. However, this film is one of the most accurate depictions of Wyatt Earp and his time in Tombstone.
Actually, no. The truth is that the Erps and the Cowboys were in a power struggle for control of the graft in the county. The OK Corral shoot out was more of a gang war battle. Josephine Marcus had been in town a for a couple of years before the Erps showed up. There is ample evidence she was a "professional" woman, and was kept by Behan until then. Erp's ghost writers told a better story, so the myths around him became established fact. Still a good movie, though.
"However, this film is one of the most accurate depictions of Wyatt Earp and his time in Tombstone." I guess?. But that's kind of a low bar. Some of the stories in the movie are disputed as to how things went down, and of course Doc killing Ringo almost certainly didn't happen in real life.. The original script probably would've depicted Wyatt more accurately.
Fun fact: The credited director of 'Tombstone', George Cosmatos, stopped showing up and pretty much checked out really early in production, and the production started foundering, was behind schedule and over budget, and Kurt Russell stepped in and directed about 75% of the movie.
Actually Kevin Jarre was the original director for this movie and had a lot of issues as his original script was being changed. Stallone suggested to Kurt Russell he hire Georgo P Cosmatos as Stallone used him for First Blood part 2 while Stallone Ghost directed that movie. Kurt Russell agreed to use him while he ghost directed Tombstone. Kurt Russell promised Cosmatos he wouldn't tell anyone who really directed Tombstone until after Cosmatos passed away. Apparently Kurt has said in interviews there is a much longer directors cut he's been working on for years that expands on everyone's story.
Anybody know why Doc Holliday look at his feet when he was on his deathbed and he said I'll be damned is because Doc Holliday always thought that he would die with his boots on in a dual
Exactly, sick from tb, he thought die by the life he lead, not in bed. Historical too, few years after ok corral, but Wyatt wasn't there. Looked at his feet sticking out and said oh, this is funny.
Remember when Wyatt's brother was dying and said he there was no tunnel or light, that he didn't see nothing? Well I always thought that Doc looks at his feet and sees no boots but then looks up and sees the light and says I'll be damned because he can't believe he is going to Heaven lol plz don't tell me different it would break my heart
Having lived in Phoenix I got to drive down to Tombstone twice (about a 2hr drive, east of Tucson). Was nice to see the OK Corall and drink/eat at the saloons
Nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards (03/21/94): Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive" Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in "Schindler's List" John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire" Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
This and Wyatt Earp were shot around the same time. Tombstone came out in the winter of 1993, and Wyatt Earp came out in the summer of 1994. When they were being made, the general consensus was that Tombstone was just going to be a throwaway action film where Wyatt Earp was the "prestige" project that had Kevin Costner (at the height of his stardom and critical acclaim (The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances with Wolves, JFK, Robin Hood and The Bodyguard) and Lawrence Kasdan (Body Heat, The Big Chill, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Silverado, The Accidental Tourist, Grand Canyon and I Love You to Death). Tombstone did okay at the box office, but really found it's footing on VHS. By the time Wyatt Earp came out, not only were the reviews bad, but it was over three hours long. Check out the trailer for Wyatt Earp below. That film took itself very seriously. Wyatt Earp is perhaps unfairly maligned. I actually really love the film. But Tombstone turned out to be one of the greatest westerns ever made. Sometimes a great film is something that just pleases the hell out of the audience. th-cam.com/video/BS5n_Ql1v2k/w-d-xo.html
Love the shot of the Earp’s and Doc walking down the street. Virgil is collected but weary about what might happen. Morgan is looking side to side, nervous and inexperienced. Wyatt is walking fearless and confident, knowing what is about to happen. And Doc is walking as if he’s taking a walk in the park.
@technopirate304 Yes, and that's why Doc holstered his revolver after fatally shooting Ringo, he had to be sure that Ringo was no longer a threat to Wyatt, but he hoped that Ringo could also end his life. As Doc said as Ringo fell to the ground " You're no Daisy, you're no Daisy at'll."
You realize how many movies were made, based on the historical event; The O.K. Coral? Tombstone, is by far, the best version. Great cast, direction, editing, sets, costumes. It should have won so many awards. People just don't like westerns, anymore, even if real.
Yes, Doc Holliday suffered for years from TB before finally succumbing to it. “Lunger” (a term you might have heard in the movie) was an actual slang term in the west for someone with TB. (Usually called “ “consumption” back then. He was called “Doc” because he was a legit dentist before he got TB. He had to close shop because patients didn’t want someone with TB coughing in their face, so he turned to a life of gambling instead. But he was definitely a very educated, southern “Gentleman”
My dad visited Tombstone and took a picture of that gravestone. He also saw one for a wrongfully convicted man hanged for allegedly stealing a horse that said "He was right, we was wrong , but we strung him up and now he's gone."
Oh, I've been meaning to recommend The Last of the Mohicans, if you haven't seen it. One of Daniel Day-Lewis earlier roles, well, one of the earlier ones that got his career started at least. :)
any Michael Mann or John McTiernan movie, i don't think they have a bad one. I'm waiting for someone to do Ali (2001), the 13th Warrior (1995) and Public Enemies (2009).
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The only way I can describe Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday would be iconic. Another great western that came out a couple years before this is "Silverado". Worth watching.
You need to see Silverado (1985): Scott Glen, Kevin Kline, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, Linda Hunt, Jeff Goldblum, John Cleese, James Gammon, Brian Dennehy, Ray Baker and Jeff Fahey.
First time checking out your videos. Great job! Tombstone is not only my favorite westerns, but one of my favorite films for all the reasons you listed. Thanks for bringing more much-needed attention to it. Doc rocks!
"Once Upon A Time In The West". As a filmmaker, you would absolutely lose your mind at the detail and shots in that film. Please. It will change your life.
I was psyched to see you were gonna watch Tombstone. One of the GREATEST westerns....ever. So quotable too. One of the few movie moments that will bring a guy to tears is the death of Doc.
I loved that ending scene of Doc looking down at his bare feet and goes "ill be damned", with a sense of relief right before he dies. He was expecting to die with his boots on in a gunfight but instead he goes peacefully in a comfortable bed.
I love seeing someone react to movies I love so much! Glad to see you appreciate the beauty in the camera shots and how the film was made. I literally stumbled upon your channel! I'll be back!
I just stumbled across your channel recently and really appreciate the insight, especially with classics like this that I grew up on. Keep doing your thing man.
"Why is this becoming like a therapy session?" Well, I'll tell you why, James... When you develop a protagonist off-screen, you write all kinds of things that may or may not come up in the movie. What does he/she like? (Generic "he" after this.) What does he dislike? What does he hope for the future? What does he dread about the past? Who's had the greatest influence on him? What's his greatest/worst memory? Film is all about "show, don't tell," but you want to be prepared to film the depth of the character. Not a professional opinion, but while self-educating myself on how to write a screenplay, I came away with just over two pages of questions that a writer should answer about his main characters... and your rhetorical question struck home.
A movie I highly recommend is the ghost and the darkness. Val Kilmer. Guy who played doc Holliday in this is main character. It’s based on a true story and it’s great
The movie had no business being anything much more than an above average B movie. But it just had a magic...great performances, great dialogue, terrific directing and cinematography. And a genuine heartwarming friendship at the heart of it that makes it all hold together.
“the man who shot liberty valance” John Wayne, jimmy S. , Lee Marvin. 1962 I prefer the original black and white. It’s my personal favorite western of all time.
Stone cold classic. People rightly (IMO) laud the revisionist perspective of 'The Outlaw Josey Wales' and 'Unforgiven' but too many forget that Westerns were revising their own mythology at least as far back as 1962.
@@andyoreo333 Can't remember if i've read that one. I went through a phase of reading Westerns _and_ a phase of reading the novels classic/favourite movies were based on so maybe (if not, thanks for the rec !). 'True Grit' is a favourite that came out of that for instance (as are 'The Hustler', 'Cool Hand Luke' and 'The Natural') - I like both films for different reasons but overall I still prefer Portis' novel.
They said Micheal Bien practiced that gun twirling scene for months and he actually did that in the movie in one take. Lastly the best scene of the whole movie, Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo square off, Val and Michael were both such perfectionists they spent all their spare time rehearsing that one scene!!
One thing tht I really appreciate about your commentary, something that I don't think nearly enough reactubers do with movies, is comment on the physical technical aspects like set and costume design, editing, angles and lighting. It's just so refreshing.
Charlie Murphy: "Even when slapping was fashionable, you be like "WHAPA" I challenge you to a duel. THEY WOULD HAVE A GUN FIGHT AFTER THAT. You know, SOMEBODY HAD TO GO." LOL I think about that now everytime I see Kurt slap Billy Bob in this.
One Western that's waaaay under the radar. "Appallossa" Ed Harris, Viggo Mortenson, Renee Zelweger, and other great character actors. Feels very much like this. Check it out.
Absolute best buddy film. I love when Viggo’s character gets called out by Zelweger to Harris and Harris just goes, “That’s not what happened.” You believe their friendship built over a decade before the film. Edit: it’s also VERY faithful to the book, which is a masterpiece of western fiction.
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Visit Tombstone?! I'm your huckleberry.
Fun fact. ...When Wyatt Earp killed Curly Bill Brocius, the real story was WAAAAAYYY crazier than depicted in the movie Tombstone. I learned this from that Western Docu-series "Wild West Tech" hosted by that Keith Carradine guy. Earp was riding out ahead and stopped to let his horse drink from a stream when he was ambushed by Curly Bill and the Cowboys. They had him surrounded and were firing at Earp from all sides. He stayed calm while trying grab the reins of his panicking horse but strangely no bullet hit Wyatt Earp or his horse. The rest of Earp's posse heard all the shooting from a distance but hadn't arrived yet. Finally Curly Bill was like fuckit, he grabbed his double barrel shotgun and waded out into the stream. Bill fired, missed from point blank range, it went right thru Earp's long coat. Curly Bill fired a second shot missed again. By that time Earp pulled his shotgun and blew two holes in Curly Bill. This left the Cowboys in shock as Bill lay dead. Soon after Holliday, Creek, Texas Jack and Macmasters arrived and drove off the remaining Cowboys. Carradine displayed Earp's long coat that was on loan from a museum. It was riddled with bullet holes and buckshot, but no trace of Earp's blood. A weird true story
You should watch the movie unforgiven 1992 with Clint Eastwood
@Goblin Gang you're probably right...still a crazy story in real life
I've been a couple of times. It is a very cool place and every where you look you see movie stuff but in particular Doc Holliday stuff.
Val Kilmer was on another fucking level in this movie.
Tombstone, Batman Forever and Heat (last 2 being filmed at the same time) in a 3 year timespan. Dude was on a roll.
Becoming my favorite!
@@JamesVSCinema If you like Kilmer check out The Saint! That’s Kilmer at his greatest!! His performance is astounding.
Kiss kiss Bang Bang
@@dnllrnt And as Jim Morrison in the film "The Doors" just a few years prior.
My man; everyone’s favorite character is Doc Holiday.
So true
I love them all! Everyone gets a great scene and has quotable dialogue.
Haha we all wish we could be best friends with Doc Holiday
@@kilchil5438 That's because he's like Samwise Gamgee. He's ride or die.
Many people Want a ride or die friend, but not many people Are a ride or die friend anymore.
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I came here to say this, but knew it had already been said. lol
"Why, Johnny Ringo. You look like somebody just walked over your grave".
ice cold
Facts!!
@@JamesVSCinema I've been to Johnny Ringo's grave.
@@queencerseilannister3519 Yeah, notice they plaed the standoff between him and Mando is the same way as in Tombstone.
Say when!!!
@@JamesVSCinema , if you haven't already you need to see "Dances With Wolves" but it's kinda long to clip down for TH-cam.
According to Val Kilmer, Kurt Russell is the reason this movie was as good as it was, he essentially directed it because the director, while a good writer had no clue how to make a movie. There are some good interviews about if you can find them.
same thing happened when he directed Cobra. Stallone took over real quick
It was also mentioned that Kurt Russel gave his word to not say anything until after the orriginal director died, Kurt still stayed silent. Val spilled the beans
Are we talking about Kevin Jarre or George P. Cosmatos? Both of them were directors for Tombstone and both of them were involved in Rambo 2 so who’s getting bashed here?
The director's son, Panos Cosmatos, was also on set doing second unit jazz. Maybe he helped out too? (Sonny boy's the director of Mandy and Beyond the Black Rainbow, fyi.)
@@tacticalgrace6456 I think he's referring to Kevin Jarre, who wrote the script and was the initial director of TOMBSTONE but was fired shortly after it began, partly due to him being a directorial novice. Cosmatos was essentially a director for hire but was more of a stand-in who directed some second-unit stuff while Russell ghost-directed the majority of the film.
My favorite part was every time Doc opened his mouth.
The Latin-off is such a great scene!
Michael Biehn doesn't get enough credit.
@@reesebn38 Agreed.
@@reesebn38 Nor does Powers Booth!
@@lewismaddox4132 Love Powers Booth!
Val Kilmer should have won an Oscar for this
Val from this and Robert Shaw from JAWS is why the Oscars are bullshit!
Absolutely, he was shafted.
Val was scene stealing.
But did created a icon for all time scene in the film.
And we all know what scene that is...
@@antonytheolddog8626 it was a meme before anyone knew what a meme was
@@clintlarvenz2570 oh that's good
.👍🏻😁
@@antonytheolddog8626 Which scene are you referring to?!
“Ike poker doesn’t seem to be your game. I know, let’s have a spelling contest!” 🤣🤣🤣
Lol - I forgot about that line. That is cold as ice 🤣
So many one liners. I spent 7 yrs out to sea on a Naval ship. Everyone on every ship knew every line word for word. We would take turns saying each line.
@@waynethayer5127 Indeed! We did the same as young adults! Such a great movie!
"I'm your huckleberry......." SUCH a classic line
That is my ring tone.
So there is a school of thought that the line was supposed to be "I'm your huckle bearer" which was the equivalent of a pallbearer at the time.
That and so many other great lines in this classic.
@@krisbrown6692 lol are there no copies of script. I always thought about Huckleberry hound for some reason lol
@@pomaimoikeha829 In the script it was Huckleberry and meant I'm a trouble maker and was based off from Huckleberry Finn. The Huckleberry Finn character was created in 1876, before the events of Tombstone but didn't really become popular until afterward. Holliday "might" have know about Huckleberry but definitely would have know about a huckle bearer.
Kilmer got robbed, and Elliott has the best stache and drawl in the bizz.
I love Sam Elliot. I miss his long silver hair. Either way, he’s still a fine man.
“I got two guns, one for each of ya.” Doc
🤣🤣🤣 Love that line!!
Classic.
Can we just recognize that he flips one gun forward and the other in reverse.
@@QuayNemSorr while holding a shot glass.
"You gonna do something or just stand there & bleed?" has got to be one of the most epic movie quotes out there!
Love this movie, Kurt Russell & Val Kilmer are such badasses
Right!! Badass!
Where's Wyatt? "He's down by the river walking on water "
These guys ruled the 80s & 90s. Check out all their movies.
Not bad, but "turning your head into a canoe" has to be up there. Such a graphic threat.
If you didn't notice, that was Billy Bob Thorton he was slapping around
"Oh, Johnny i apologize. I forgot you were there. You may go now."
The disrespect 😂😂😂
The absolute apex of Vilmer's career. Doc was probably supposed to be an interesting side character in conception. But he dominated this movie with his charm and wit.
Years later Val has come out and said Kurt Russell actually directed the film and gave up a lot of his screen time to get the film done. Also I don't think Michael Biehn get enough credit. He plays off Val beautifully!
@@williamshelton4318 "Alright lunger let's go."
"It appears the strain was more than he could bear"
- Doc holiday
James watching Tombstone - "Aaaaw man im getting like heavy Read Dead Redemption vibes right now..."
Me playing RDR2 - "Aaaaw man im getting like heavy Tombstone vibes right now..."
😂😂😂
LUMBAGO!
facts
Tombstone and Unforgiven are probably my two favorite westerns. If you have not seen Unforgiven, i really suggest taking a look. Its incredible.
They are so damn good!
Unforgiven is up there with Tombstone for me - just as quotable, and one of my favourite Clint roles. Masterpiece
Another vote for Unforgiven here.
Add Open Range also
Once upon a Time in the West, I also felt opened the door for so many modern Westerns. I know all the Clint movies had already come out, but that movie still moved the dial on what a western could be IMO. It's also the only movie Henry Fonda ever played a villain, and boy that villain would give Johnny Ringo and Curly Bill a run for their money.
Sam Elliott is a cowboy. No matter what genre or time period the movie is in, he’s still a cowboy and a damn good one. His parents are from Texas, and he began acting when westerns ruled the cinema. He married once, and she’s still his wife. He’s a good solid dude.
And if you give him any lip, his mustache will knock you down for him
The Sackett movies he did were all very good. Definitely great westerns
@@yaimavol Thanks for the tip. I didn’t know about that mini-series, but it’s highly rated. Might have to check it out.
“I’m your huckleberry.” - Gives me chills. Val Kilmer’s best role imo.
You're a daisy if you do.
I love him as Mad Mardigan.
I still use this line regularly. It’s too good not to.
I googled the meaning to "I'm your huckleberry" and it basically means, “I'm the man you're looking for."
Huckle bearer which is the piece of hardware on a casket that you carry the casket with.” In other words, Holliday was warning Ringo that he was going to put him six feet under.
James: Val Kilmer did a really great job in Heat.
Val Kilmer: Hold my beer.
FACTS LMFAOOO
Val stole Heat from De niro and Pacino. Who can do that?!
How Val Kilmer didn’t win a Oscar for this movie I will never know
Tough competition that year (66th Academy Awards). Check out the nominees.
Love this movie. Another great western to add to the list is 3:10 to Yuma (2007) with Russell Crowe and Christian Bale. An amazing remake of a oldie. Highly recommend this one. The music is also amazing.
“Wyatt Earp is my friend.”
“Hell, I got a lot of friends.”
“I don’t.”
Classic.
Tombstone is only an hour away from where I live! And you're right, the sunsets here in the Southwest are definitely one of a kind.
“Wyatt Earp,” starring Kevin Costner, opened close to Tombstone, one of the 1st times studios were competing w/similar movies. The Wyatt Earp studio (WB) decided to play dirty and snatch-up all the avail western garb from every studio warehouse so the Tombstone studio would have a harder time finding wardrobe. (But, in the end, Tombstone turned out to be the better film.)
Hmm, not so sure about that. 'An American Werewolf in London' vs 'The Howling' (1981), 'Vice Versa' vs 'Big' (1988), 'Turner and Hooch' vs 'K-9' (1989). From memory so there's no doubt more. Even in the same years as 'Tombstone' vs 'Wyatt Earp' there was 'Kalifornia' vs 'Natural Born Killers' (a "twinsy" squared, since Juliette Lewis stars in both :).
I guess it _might_ be true to say it's become more common _since_ then though.
(ETA: How on Earth could I forget 'Iron Eagle' vs 'Top Gun' (1986) ?? :)
@@anonymes2884 No. That’s not what I meant by similar movies. Studios are always making films based on whatever’s popular at the time. There are many werewolf, crime, and military films; but they’re not the same story. Both Tombstone and Wyatt Earp are ABOUT Wyatt Earp.
(Btw, Vice Versa is more comparable to Freaky Friday.)
@@bekind3931 Ah OK. "Similar" isn't the best word choice then IMO. Disagree with your take. 'An American Werewolf in London' and 'The Howling were both contemporary films about werewolves grounding them in a more realistic setting - they weren't just coincidentally both about werewolves because werewolves were popular in 1981. 'Top Gun' and 'Iron Eagle' are both about young hotheaded pilots who overcome personal demons to win the day. 'Turner and Hooch' and 'K-9' are both buddy cop movies where one of the buddies is a dog. 'Kalifornia' and 'Natural Born Killers' both feature psychopathic couples on a road trip killing spree etc.
Those are hardly just generic types only similar in the way all "war movies" or "crime movies" are similar. Instead (like "Dante's Peak" vs "Volcano", "Deep Impact" vs "Armageddon", "Antz" vs "A Bug's Life" etc. in later years) they're similar movies released near to each other where studios were in competition - as you said initially, despite apparently meaning something more specific than "similar" connotes.
Fair point though, "Like Father Like Son" (1987) vs "Vice Versa" (1988) works better - as well as plot, the different release years actually make for a closer fit (that said, "body swap comedy" arguably _is_ actually its own specific sub-genre, at least by now anyway - in fact "'Freaky Friday' movies" alone might count as one :).
(i'd also argue 'Tombstone' and 'Wyatt Earp' _aren't_ the same story BTW - though there's obviously crossover, 'Wyatt Earp' is much more of a biopic. As the name suggests, it's _actually_ about Wyatt Earp, starting from when he's a boy and following his life from young adulthood up to and beyond Tombstone)
@@anonymes2884 Don’t know why my orig comment is such a point of contention for you. I remember WB was not happy that Tombstone was opening 1st. Both film’s big scenes were the gunfight at the OK Corral and time in AZ bc those are the most famous of his life. I imagine WB thought once ppl see the gunfight, they may not go to WE bc they’ll feel they’ve already seen the big moment; or, worse - it’ll invite comparison as to whom did it better. And they might’ve been right. Tombstone profited; WE tanked.
The volcano and asteroid movies and maybe one other biopic had the same situation where the studios wanted to be the 1st to open for the same reason; but, the films you named are not in that category. “Hotheaded pilots who overcome personal demons to win the day” is not a story; it’s a tagline. You could replace “pilots” w/any other occupation and describe half a dozen movies. (Every story needs conflict, and there are only so many, man against himself being one.)
Iron Eagle is closer to the Chuck Norris or Sly Stallone movies about one man going to another country to rescue ppl, but I imagine you chose Top Gun bc it opened the same year. They’re not even close to the same story either. One is an adult Navy pilot trying to pass flight school to become a fighter pilot. The other is a teenager who was rejected from the USAF and steals a plane to fly to another country on a rescue mission. No one would ever confuse Iron Eagle for Top Gun or vice-versa. No one. Bc they’re not the same.
If you want to believe I’m mistaken, that’s fine. But geez, man, I don’t know why this is such a big deal for you.
@@bekind3931 Actually your _original_ comment was just one where I thought "Nah, what about all those previous similar movies released near each other ?" and so I offered counterexamples (it seemed like a simple mistaken claim). Your _second_ comment is where it got interesting though because you then seemed to be saying the examples I gave actually _aren't_ similar competing movies but just the usual similar ideas or from the same broad genre (so basically entirely coincidental) and though we could quibble on some, that _none_ of them struck you as noticeably similar is interesting (because to me they _obviously_ are and now having asked the googster, at least some show up on lists of similar movies released at the same time too so my position is boringly mainstream whereas, at least in my experience, _yours_ is unique).
That aside, we're just talking right ? Film fans disagreeing is nothing new. There're no hard feelings (on my part at least). If you're interpreting "long posts" as "Boy, this person must be super angry about this and consider it a 'big deal'" then _really_ don't. Rather interpret them as "Boy, this person must be in Covid lockdown, very bored and frankly somewhat starved of conversation". Jump off any time, fellow rando on the internet :).
"Both film’s big scenes were the gunfight at the OK Corral and time in AZ bc those are the most famous of his life."
Exactly, hence, as I say, "crossover" - a film featuring Neil Armstrong will probably have the Moon landing and if it doesn't that's a very deliberate choice. 'Tombstone' is _about_ the events at Tombstone (in which Wyatt Earp plays a pivotal role). 'Wyatt Earp' is _about_ the life of Wyatt Earp (in which the events at Tombstone play a pivotal role). Does that make them the same story ? To me, very obviously not (WE is over 3 hrs long and we're past half-way before Tombstone even comes up). Does it make them _similar_ ? Of course.
"You could replace “pilots” w/any other occupation and describe half a dozen movies."
Yes. If you change the premise of a movie it will be more like another movie (and apart from sometimes small differences, many movies are quite generic). Is that really your argument ? If you change 'K-9' to a human partnership it becomes just another buddy cop movie (on some level that's actually the hook yes ? "Hah, it's funny cuz one's a dog when _usually_ one _isn't_ a dog !" :). The point is, neither 'Turner & Hooch' or 'K-9' _did_ have human partnerships and they came out within months of each other from competing studios. Hell, even two we may agree on, "Dante's Peak" and "Volcano", don't have the same story, setting or characters and if you change "Volcano" to an earthquake it's much more like, well, "Earthquake" (1974). But so what ? The fact is "Volcano" _didn't_ have an earthquake and _didn't_ come out in 1974 so they _are_ similar movies released near each other from competing studios. What's interesting to me is you don't seem to see that.
"No one would ever confuse Iron Eagle for Top Gun or vice-versa. No one. Bc they’re not the same."
No one (in this discussion) has _claimed_ they're the same either (remember to take issue with what i've _actually_ said, not what the version of me in your head has said :). But at least some do in fact consider them _similar_ in the sense I and others mean (see below) - being the same is not a requirement, being noticeably similar _and_ close enough together in time to be competing is. The same premise can be enough (note though, "military film" for instance is _not_ a premise, nor is "Western", "crime film" etc. - T&H/'K-9' _aren't_ lumped together because they're both "cop movies" or even both "buddy cop movies").
Put it this way, if you google "similar movies released same time" as I now have you'll see many lists (it's the internet after all :) _at least_ one of which has 'Top Gun'/'Iron Eagle', more than one with "Turner & Hooch'/'K-9' and many with e.g. 'The Prestige'/'The Illusionist' or "Antz"/"A Bug's Life" (and _every_ list i've seen includes the obvious candidates like "Dante's Peak"/"Volcano" and "Deep Impact"/"Armageddon"). _None_ of those feature the same characters or the same story specifics and plenty differ quite markedly in everything except their premise ("asteroid threatens Earth", "erupting volcano threatens people" etc.). In other words none of them seem to meet _your_ criteria for "studios... competing w/similar movies". And yet that's _exactly_ what almost everyone understands them to be (hence the reason for digging into it at length - you're unique in this respect, be happy. I mean, uniquely, almost unfathomably, wrong IMO but still... :).
“Why it’s the drunk piano player....your so drunk you can’t hit nothin’. In fact, you’re probably seeing double.”
“I’ve got two guns. One for each of ya.”
The scene with Wyatt killing Curly Bill Brocius with Wyatt yelling no, actually happened. And many historians say the film depiction is very accurate.
According to Johnny Barnes, the guy shot in the stomach in the same sequence, that's how it all went down.
I think this film is the most accurate Western. The cloths, the way they talk. Every town in the wild west had Optum tents. But this is the only western to show it.
@@reesebn38 Opium?
@@OroborusFMA Opium is a drug made from the poppy flower. When they were building the railroad across America, most of it was done with Chinese workers, they brought opium to america. A lot of it! It's what Curly was smoking when he killed the Sheriff and it's what Wyatt's wife was addicted too.
The story of Earp walking into the gunfire, and by some miracle not getting hit, was told by one of his buddies who was there to see it. IIRC.
You need to see the Sergio Leone movies, The Dollars Trilogy and Once Upon a time in the West
Val Kilmer really kills this role.
There is a great story about Bill Paxson and Tombstone. Paxson was at a play or something and, before it started, ran into a friend. The friend says "Bill, my brother is here with me and Tombstone is his favorite movie." Paxson's friend points out the brother sitting up front with his back to the both of them. Bill Paxson walks away and heads towards the Tombstone fan and sits down right behind him and leans forward and starts talking in his ear as brother number one stands back and watches his sitting brother perk up. Paxson leaves. Brother number 1 goes up to brother number 2 and asks him what Paxson said. The brother says " He said every line he had in Tombstone into my ear. " //// Bill Paxson is the man. RIP BP. the coolest in real life. Only person to be killed by a Predator, an Alien and a Terminator. Miss ya, Buddy.
Unforgiven and Tombstone are my 2 favorite "modern" westerns.
Plus "Open Range" (2003) and "Broken Trail" (2006).
And Silverado.
True Grit?
Check out "The Long Riders". It was one of the first.
Salvation
SAY WHEN!!!
Val Kilmer likely gives the most underrated Supporting Role of all time
Every scene he is in has an amazing quote
UNDERRATED? Memes alone Kilmer's role is widely known and appreciated. It's the one stand-out of the movie. If not for him the movie wouldn't be as known, even people who hasn't seen it yet
if you mean Award, then yes. He should have gotten Oscar for it. Though the actual winner - Tommy lee Jones in The Fugitive - deserved it too. But universally Val's performance is wayy more remembered among the greats.
The awards bro. You get it
I’m blown away no nominations
It’s insane
Exactly we know it’s great and I’m sure we quote it all the time to our friends.
It’s just weird how it’s never talked about among actors and other awards shows the way it should be.
Fascinating
He’s a legend
@@embran8486 He wasn't even nominated! BS!
Val Kilmer was excellent in this, one of his best performances. Actually, the acting was very good across the board.
The red sash cowboys was a plot device, and there are some editing choices that speed up the action. However, this film is one of the most accurate depictions of Wyatt Earp and his time in Tombstone.
The red sash cowboys were a prominent evil in the original Django film with Franco Nero, too.
@@gregoryjenkins8645 Just saw that yesterday, that's a real shoot em up western.
Actually, no. The truth is that the Erps and the Cowboys were in a power struggle for control of the graft in the county. The OK Corral shoot out was more of a gang war battle.
Josephine Marcus had been in town a for a couple of years before the Erps showed up. There is ample evidence she was a "professional" woman, and was kept by Behan until then.
Erp's ghost writers told a better story, so the myths around him became established fact. Still a good movie, though.
"However, this film is one of the most accurate depictions of Wyatt Earp and his time in Tombstone."
I guess?. But that's kind of a low bar. Some of the stories in the movie are disputed as to how things went down, and of course Doc killing Ringo almost certainly didn't happen in real life.. The original script probably would've depicted Wyatt more accurately.
Fun fact: The credited director of 'Tombstone', George Cosmatos, stopped showing up and pretty much checked out really early in production, and the production started foundering, was behind schedule and over budget, and Kurt Russell stepped in and directed about 75% of the movie.
His passion saved this film. Kurt Russell is a legend
Oh word!! Thanks for that!
The cast has said the film would not have been made if it weren't for Kurt.
Actually Kevin Jarre was the original director for this movie and had a lot of issues as his original script was being changed. Stallone suggested to Kurt Russell he hire Georgo P Cosmatos as Stallone used him for First Blood part 2 while Stallone Ghost directed that movie. Kurt Russell agreed to use him while he ghost directed Tombstone. Kurt Russell promised Cosmatos he wouldn't tell anyone who really directed Tombstone until after Cosmatos passed away.
Apparently Kurt has said in interviews there is a much longer directors cut he's been working on for years that expands on everyone's story.
@@nluna75 I would kill to see that!!
"Why, Ed Bailey, are we cross?"
Anybody know why Doc Holliday look at his feet when he was on his deathbed and he said I'll be damned is because Doc Holliday always thought that he would die with his boots on in a dual
Nice!
Yeah I was going to comment on that. I’m sure he thought he’d die at a card table or a gunfight and he died in a hospital bed without his boots.
Exactly, sick from tb, he thought die by the life he lead, not in bed. Historical too, few years after ok corral, but Wyatt wasn't there. Looked at his feet sticking out and said oh, this is funny.
Remember when Wyatt's brother was dying and said he there was no tunnel or light, that he didn't see nothing? Well I always thought that Doc looks at his feet and sees no boots but then looks up and sees the light and says I'll be damned because he can't believe he is going to Heaven lol plz don't tell me different it would break my heart
He wanted to die with his boots on.
Having lived in Phoenix I got to drive down to Tombstone twice (about a 2hr drive, east of Tucson). Was nice to see the OK Corall and drink/eat at the saloons
Nominees for Best Supporting Actor in the 66th Academy Awards (03/21/94):
Tommy Lee Jones as Samuel Gerard in "The Fugitive"
Leonardo DiCaprio as Arnie Grape in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth in "Schindler's List"
John Malkovich as Mitch Leary in "In the Line of Fire"
Pete Postlethwaite as Giuseppe Conlon in "In the Name of the Father"
That's one solid lineup
@@FH-hu5vn Yeah, people just assume that Val Kilmer had no legitimate competition that year.
This and Wyatt Earp were shot around the same time. Tombstone came out in the winter of 1993, and Wyatt Earp came out in the summer of 1994. When they were being made, the general consensus was that Tombstone was just going to be a throwaway action film where Wyatt Earp was the "prestige" project that had Kevin Costner (at the height of his stardom and critical acclaim (The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances with Wolves, JFK, Robin Hood and The Bodyguard) and Lawrence Kasdan (Body Heat, The Big Chill, Empire Strikes Back, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Silverado, The Accidental Tourist, Grand Canyon and I Love You to Death).
Tombstone did okay at the box office, but really found it's footing on VHS. By the time Wyatt Earp came out, not only were the reviews bad, but it was over three hours long. Check out the trailer for Wyatt Earp below. That film took itself very seriously. Wyatt Earp is perhaps unfairly maligned. I actually really love the film. But Tombstone turned out to be one of the greatest westerns ever made.
Sometimes a great film is something that just pleases the hell out of the audience.
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The epicness of this movie's mustache game is on another level.
Most of Val Kilmer's dialogue was actual late 1800s slang that was common for the time.
Tombstone is like a western/gangster movie.
You just reminded me of Four Brothers; An updated version of The Son's of Katie Elder, set in 1990s Detroit.
@@jtoland2333 Ah, I remember that movie.
I love that the guy Wyatt is slapping around at the beginning is Billy Bob Thornton.
Tombstone is a lot of people’s favorite movie 🍿
Still love the cup flipping scene!
It’s so damn good!
Michael Biehn doesn't get enough credit.
Wyatt being unkillable was pretty much based on fact. He went into shootouts and never got scratched.
The man getting pimp slapped I’d none other than Billy Bob Thornton
Glad someone mentioned that
Love the shot of the Earp’s and Doc walking down the street.
Virgil is collected but weary about what might happen.
Morgan is looking side to side, nervous and inexperienced.
Wyatt is walking fearless and confident, knowing what is about to happen.
And Doc is walking as if he’s taking a walk in the park.
@technopirate304 Yes, and that's why Doc holstered his revolver after fatally shooting Ringo, he had to be sure that Ringo was no longer a threat to Wyatt, but he hoped that Ringo could also end his life. As Doc said as Ringo fell to the ground " You're no Daisy, you're no Daisy at'll."
You realize how many movies were made, based on the historical event; The O.K. Coral? Tombstone, is by far, the best version. Great cast, direction, editing, sets, costumes. It should have won so many awards. People just don't like westerns, anymore, even if real.
Wyatt Earp's life is why they make movies.
I think this movie did to the story of the O.K. Coral what the movie Untouchables does to Elliot Ness.
Wyatt Earp ran a brothel.
Yes, Doc Holliday suffered for years from TB before finally succumbing to it. “Lunger” (a term you might have heard in the movie) was an actual slang term in the west for someone with TB. (Usually called “ “consumption” back then. He was called “Doc” because he was a legit dentist before he got TB. He had to close shop because patients didn’t want someone with TB coughing in their face, so he turned to a life of gambling instead. But he was definitely a very educated, southern “Gentleman”
Doc Holiday actually did say "Now that is funny", when he died.while looking at his feet.
Great movie
One watch I think you’ll like is “ Fear and loathing in Las Vegas” with Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro
Great choice dude
The goddamn bats! Play white rabbit and stfu man! I'm trying to sleep.
"Here lies Lester Moore. Four slugs from a .44. No less. No more. " That was written on a grave as the Earps road into to Tombstone.
That's actually a real tombstone
My dad visited Tombstone and took a picture of that gravestone. He also saw one for a wrongfully convicted man hanged for allegedly stealing a horse that said "He was right, we was wrong , but we strung him up and now he's gone."
Doc is possibly the coolest character in cinema history
Oh, I've been meaning to recommend The Last of the Mohicans, if you haven't seen it. One of Daniel Day-Lewis earlier roles, well, one of the earlier ones that got his career started at least. :)
Yes! Last of the Mohicans is amazing.
any Michael Mann or John McTiernan movie, i don't think they have a bad one. I'm waiting for someone to do Ali (2001), the 13th Warrior (1995) and Public Enemies (2009).
@@pablom-f8762 so glad someone finally mentioned The 13th Warrior. So damn underrated
Agreed, the cinematography and action are fantastic. There are really very few movies that depict that time in American history.
Note to Millennials: If you insist in referencing computer games be assured, whatever it is you're comparing it to; the game probably stole or is inspired by the cool old thing you're watching.
The only way I can describe Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday would be iconic. Another great western that came out a couple years before this is "Silverado". Worth watching.
Almost 10 years before.
You need to see Silverado (1985): Scott Glen, Kevin Kline, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, Linda Hunt, Jeff Goldblum, John Cleese, James Gammon, Brian Dennehy, Ray Baker and Jeff Fahey.
3:10 to Yuma is another great modern western.
"Oh Jonny, I forgot you were there. You may go now" One of my favorite lines ever, so damn cold.
Have loved this movie for so long, was awesome seeing someone get into it so much!
Billy Bob Thornton is the dude Kurt Russell slaps around at the beginning.
“Thanks for always being there Doc.”
First time checking out your videos. Great job! Tombstone is not only my favorite westerns, but one of my favorite films for all the reasons you listed. Thanks for bringing more much-needed attention to it. Doc rocks!
"Once Upon A Time In The West".
As a filmmaker, you would absolutely lose your mind at the detail and shots in that film.
Please. It will change your life.
I was psyched to see you were gonna watch Tombstone. One of the GREATEST westerns....ever. So quotable too.
One of the few movie moments that will bring a guy to tears is the death of Doc.
I loved that ending scene of Doc looking down at his bare feet and goes "ill be damned", with a sense of relief right before he dies. He was expecting to die with his boots on in a gunfight but instead he goes peacefully in a comfortable bed.
"This is a funny" were his recorded last words, but the nurse didn't know why he said it.
I love that he's all ready to take on Wyatt but as soon as he sees doc... He shits himself 😁👍🏼
If you ever in Arizona, the OK corral IS about an hour 40 minutes South of Phoenix
I love seeing someone react to movies I love so much! Glad to see you appreciate the beauty in the camera shots and how the film was made. I literally stumbled upon your channel! I'll be back!
"Oh, Johnny, I forgot you were there. You may go now. " doc Holliday is the best
"I'm your huckleberry" My favorite line!
"I'm your Huckleberry"
I just stumbled across your channel recently and really appreciate the insight, especially with classics like this that I grew up on. Keep doing your thing man.
Val Kilmer's best work by far. Great movie.
He’s becoming a favorite
Old gunfighter credo
“It’s not who is the fastest, or most accurate. It’s who’s most willing,”
Adapted from “The Shootist”
"Why is this becoming like a therapy session?"
Well, I'll tell you why, James... When you develop a protagonist off-screen, you write all kinds of things that may or may not come up in the movie. What does he/she like? (Generic "he" after this.) What does he dislike? What does he hope for the future? What does he dread about the past? Who's had the greatest influence on him? What's his greatest/worst memory? Film is all about "show, don't tell," but you want to be prepared to film the depth of the character.
Not a professional opinion, but while self-educating myself on how to write a screenplay, I came away with just over two pages of questions that a writer should answer about his main characters... and your rhetorical question struck home.
This was brilliantly worded..never thought of it like that!
He/she - just substitute with "they".
@@nathanmills335 I'm too old to change my ways. "They" will forever be "he/she."
Sam Elliott's mustache is good in this, but in Gettysburg it goes completely coast-to-coast. Peak mustache.
The entire cast of this is huge. Anyone who got screen time is A list.
I've met the guys who played Johnny Ringo and McMasters. Both of them (Michael Biehn and Michael Rooker) are really nice guys.
Yeah they are!! Me too.
A movie I highly recommend is the ghost and the darkness.
Val Kilmer. Guy who played doc Holliday in this is main character.
It’s based on a true story and it’s great
The movie had no business being anything much more than an above average B movie. But it just had a magic...great performances, great dialogue, terrific directing and cinematography. And a genuine heartwarming friendship at the heart of it that makes it all hold together.
You should watch The Quick and the Dead with Gene Hackman Russell Crowe Sharon Stone etc real stylized western pretty badass you’d like for sure man
The Quick And The Dead is my favorite western. Gene Hackman is soooo freaking intimidating. Gives me chills.
Great review and I appreciate you’re pointing out the technical skills that go into making a great movie. Keep up the great work. I’ll be watching.
“the man who shot liberty valance” John Wayne, jimmy S. , Lee Marvin. 1962 I prefer the original black and white. It’s my personal favorite western of all time.
Stone cold classic. People rightly (IMO) laud the revisionist perspective of 'The Outlaw Josey Wales' and 'Unforgiven' but too many forget that Westerns were revising their own mythology at least as far back as 1962.
@@anonymes2884 Asa Earl Carter wrote the novel The Rebel Outlaw Josey Wales. Love the movie, but the book is really good and one of my favorites.
@@andyoreo333 Can't remember if i've read that one. I went through a phase of reading Westerns _and_ a phase of reading the novels classic/favourite movies were based on so maybe (if not, thanks for the rec !). 'True Grit' is a favourite that came out of that for instance (as are 'The Hustler', 'Cool Hand Luke' and 'The Natural') - I like both films for different reasons but overall I still prefer Portis' novel.
"When the truth becomes the legend, print the legend" - one of the best lines in that movie.
@@anonymes2884 the dude only wrote a few like 3 or 4. Education of little tree was made into some type of movie.
They said Micheal Bien practiced that gun twirling scene for months and he actually did that in the movie in one take. Lastly the best scene of the whole movie, Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo square off, Val and Michael were both such perfectionists they spent all their spare time rehearsing that one scene!!
villain or lawman? to be fair most of the people portrayed in this movie where both at some point. Both at the same time In the case of the Earps.
Loved watching your reaction to one of my all time favorites. You brought the joy back for me of watching it a first time.
Recommend Sam raimi's western the quick and the dead. Russell Crowe, Leo DiCaprio, gene hackman.
omg yes, it's such a fun film.
Underrated AF. Another lights out cast.
Yes forgot about this film. Its a fun one
and Sharon Stone.
I found it a ridiculous movie, but couldn't stop watching it. DiCaprio was amazing in it.
6:14 To quote Jack Nicholson in The Departed, "When you're facing a loaded gun, what's the difference?"
I'm not a fan of westerns but I can watch this film over and over.
One thing tht I really appreciate about your commentary, something that I don't think nearly enough reactubers do with movies, is comment on the physical technical aspects like set and costume design, editing, angles and lighting. It's just so refreshing.
Charlie Murphy: "Even when slapping was fashionable, you be like "WHAPA" I challenge you to a duel. THEY WOULD HAVE A GUN FIGHT AFTER THAT. You know, SOMEBODY HAD TO GO." LOL I think about that now everytime I see Kurt slap Billy Bob in this.
Thank you! Reliving so many great films I love in a whole new light. Making me see the film making, something that was never on my radar.
Another great western from this time period was "Unforgiven", starring Clint Eastwood.
I've been to Tombstone multiple times, one of the coolest feelings in the world is walking down the wood sidewalks in boots.
“Alright Lunger...Lets Do It!!
One of my favourite movies with one of the best lines, "You're not a hypocrite, you just want people to think you are." classic good writing
One Western that's waaaay under the radar. "Appallossa" Ed Harris, Viggo Mortenson, Renee Zelweger, and other great character actors. Feels very much like this. Check it out.
Love the way Viggo Mortensen stands sideways and a little sway backed during his gun fight scene.
@@baskervillebee6097 Yup, perfect.
Absolute best buddy film. I love when Viggo’s character gets called out by Zelweger to Harris and Harris just goes, “That’s not what happened.” You believe their friendship built over a decade before the film.
Edit: it’s also VERY faithful to the book, which is a masterpiece of western fiction.
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More than 1 book. You're right about the buddy film.
Really enjoyed your reaction. You asked some interesting questions, and the therapy session was appreciated. Good job, man! 😎
Happy to hear it my friend!