You should really review this mic. I think it's likely a really good option for some voice talent. I personally prefer shotgun mics these days for voice over, and this seems to be a great indoor shotgun.
Wow, the off axis rejection of the Sennheiser is superb! There is a reason why it is the industry standard... :-) I trust all is well with you and yours! Keep the videos coming. Looking forward to the MixPre II review/comparison... Cheers, Greg
Hi Greg - yes, the MKH 416 is legendary, partly for that reason. Good to hear from you and hope all is well! Just posted a MixPre II new features overview on the other channel: th-cam.com/video/tf1g-daRfu4/w-d-xo.html
I'm very pleased with my Diety S-Mic 2 (long one) bought on Curtis' recommendation. I really love the sound and the price! Great review and comparison, as usual!!!
I couldn't find an easy comparison chart for the 2 vs the 2S, so of course I came here. I'll be grabbing the 2S since I'm shooting indoors in a small room 99% of the time 👍👍
Deity mics are a viable option for budget conscious film makers, but sometimes I feel that in the long run you're better off just investing on old reliable and industry proven products, if you can afford the up front cost. Awesome review as always!
For those who don't have the best control over the recording environment, it serves them well. But there is no one 'perfect' mic for all circumstances.
Hey Curtis, I just picked this up after watching a ton a videos. Wanted a shotgun mic that would work well indoors and outdoors. What was the windmuff/blimp you used at 7:11? I'll mostly be using the mic indoors, but I would like to use it outdoors when I go camping. Thank you!
That is the Rycote Cyclone. It is not a cheap windshield, but works very nicely, especially in high winds. A less expensive option would be the RODE Blimp wind shield.
Absolutely fantastic reviews as always! Thank you for this great in depth review and First Look of the Deity S-Mic 2S! I'm keen to see your review of Rode short shotgun mic the NTG5
This mic has a balanced XLR output while the D3 Pro has a 3.5mm output. The D3 Pro can be adapted to balanced XLR. I believe I experienced a bit of RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a wireless transmitter by it on a boom pole so it doesn’t appear to be as well shielded as the S-Mic 2S.
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Thanks for the review Curtis. Like everyone, I have been waiting for the review of the S-Mic 2s. I thought it sounded great, and if I got my super picky cap on, a bit thinner than I expected, but with “relaxed” high frequencies. Deity’s intent to have their mic’s cut together should work, I think the high end matches, but the low end presence difference may have to be dealt with somehow depending on the situation. The voice does seem to sit forward with the S-Mic 2s, and when you consider this with all the other mic’s I have heard in this price range, I would consider this one of, if not the best I’ve heard so far. Side note; The MKH-416’s noise floor and rear rejection were stellar. I’m not sure if you lucked into a really good one, or if that is characteristic of all of them. And this had nothing to do with anything, but I thought your voice sounded best on the Azden SGM-3500. All the best.
@@insanejughead Thank goodness they haven't changed it. I was referring to the specific mic Curtis has. I have heard other 416's that were good, of course, it just seems like the one Curtis has is exceptional. I don't know if it's the day, the room, the test, whatever it is, in this video the 416 he has was great.
Thanks Lloyd for the insights. Good to hear from you and hope all is well! Funny thing is that I just added the 416 to the kit for shotgun microphone reviews because there have been so many requests to use it as a reference for comparison. It sounds better than I remember from a job I did probably 5 years ago.
Love your reviews, what’s your go to boom at the moment? I’m interested in this though been burned with other cheaper gear , so these days stick to the more expensive brands
Great Review. I've watched it many times. Any thoughts between the Deity S Mic 2s and the Azden SGM 3500. I'm in the market for a short shotgun mic since most of my work is in doors and the backorder for the Rode NTG5 is about three months wait at this point.
@@curtisjudd I decided to go with the Rode NTG 5. Now just waiting for the back orders to fill. If It takes too long I'll take another look at the 3500.
That question can only get you a subjective response. What specifically do you want in a microphone's sound profile? For example, on paper, the Røde Ntg4 is 'better' than the Ntg2, but Curtis doesn't like the Ntg4 much for its frequency profile.
Well, they all sound pretty similar. What this has which the other two do not have is better RF shielding. However, if you're going to attach the mic to the top of your camera, the other two are made for that. The S-Mic 2S would require a third party cold-shoe shock mount.
Curtis, two questions: First in mixing mics is there a major difference? I have an NTG-3 & wonder if mixing that with the S Mic 2S would be really apparent. Second what is the blimp at the 6:24 mark?
If the two shotgun mics are each used for a different person, it isn’t usually an issue though I would usually try to stay to all medium or all short shotguns. The windshield is a Rycote Cyclone.
The off axis coloration (esp. on a moving source) on the S Mic 2 S seems a lot lower than the other longer mics. The frequency response remains consistent and that makes me lean towards that. I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of rejection most of the time for a more balanced sound. If you're in a really noisy environment, even a mile long mic won't do anything. You're better off finding a quieter location or moving away from the noise source rather than just relying on the directionality of the mic.
After watching the video, I bought the Deity S-Mic 2s and I really like the sound. However, when I use the mic with the Rode Wireless Go II system, it picks up noise when I point the mic away from the speaker with the transmitter (when the back of the mic or the XLR connector comes near one of the Rode GO II transmitters). Is there something wrong with my microphone? Is there anything that can be done about this problem? Thank you for your support and the great work you are doing!
Hi Curtis. Thank you for great review! I need your wise opinion. Sometimes I need to record an interviews in the shopping malls. I have Rode NTG 3, but it get all reflections, i also have Audio-Technica 4053b (thank you for recommendation! Using it almost 3 years now) it is works great in echo environment but it is not reject background noice as good as ntg3. Should i buy Deity sMic2s ? Will it be something in the middle between those mics? Thank you
Hi Alexey, hmm, that’s a tough call. The DEITY’s polar pattern is not as focused as the NTG3 but I’m not sure it will do better in terms of reflections. In fact. The S-Mic2S polar pattern is quite similar to the AT. Any chance you could use handheld interview mics?
@@curtisjudd But he has not yet appeared on sale. So that you advise that the quality was about the same, but you need to buy right now. And what do you think about rode ntg 3?
Awesome video! This is probably an open ended question, but do you have any recommendations for an indoor (untreated room) interview mic that handles reverb and interference well? I've used the NTG2 for years, but I think it's time for an upgrade -- it especially struggled with interference when shooting in a large city, and of course there are better options if I'm only going to be shooting seated interviews indoors. Is there anything off the top of your head that you would recommend in the 300-600 dollar range? Thank you so much for your time and videos!
Hi Curtis! How is it compared to AT4053b? Should i get one for backup? I got a special invitation for a Deity event that will happen here in PH next week. Thinking about getting one heheh thanks so much!
Hmm, they're different in that this is a shotgun mic and the 4053B is a non-shotgun hyper. If I had the budget, I'd opt for the 4053B since I do a lot of indoor interviews and prefer the sound of the 4053B.
Hi Curtis, I'm putting together a field mix kit. I have a Zoom H6. Now I need a mic. I had originally thought NTG-2 but then read that it might not be a good choice for indoor shoots because of possible comb filtering. Would the Deity S Mic 2s be a better choice if I only gonna go with 1 mic? It's more than I want to spend right now but maybe it'll fit the bill. If you have a different suggestion for me that'd be great! Thanks for producing awesome videos!
Hi Chris, If the budget is tight, I'd consider the Audio Technica AT875R. Sounds better than the NTG2 and is under $200 last time I checked. Works nicely indoors.
I've been considering a shotgun microphone for inside the workshop. This one seems like it may be a good contender. I just haven't been too terribly happy with the audio of my rode Wireless go. But that is also me not knowing how to adjust anything in post. It may be a wonderful guitar I just don't know how to play it. Thanks for sharing Curtis. -Will
@@curtisjudd Better than just the on board audio of my phone or dslr. Sounds real tight and boxy. Maybe I can open it up with some adjustments in post. -Will
Hi, I am sorry to ask you a similar question on a different video, but I will phrase it differently and make it easier to understand. If you could use only one mic for a discussion panel, where 4 people are seated on one side of a long table, and the mic would be stationary on a stand in front of them, would you use this S Mic-2 or a D3 pro? Thanks!
To pick up 4 people, Perhaps a boundary mic or at least a condenser microphone with a wider polar pattern would be a better choice than a shotgun microphone. Something like a RODE NT1, but keep in mind the 4 people will need to be seated quite close to the mic. If there is a PA system involved, you'll want to make sure the mic is not in front of the speakers or you'll probably have feedback issues.
This mic has a balanced XLR output while the D3 Pro has a 3.5mm output. The D3 Pro can be adapted to balanced XLR. I believe I experienced a bit of RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a wireless transmitter by it on a boom pole so it doesn’t appear to be as well shielded as the S-Mic 2S.
Would this be the best current option for the price when recording indoors in a small (12x12ft) carpeted room? I used the NTG a few years back but switched to lavs because shotguns were always so echoey indoors, but now that I'm stepping up my quality I wonder if this kind of short shotgun would be the way to improve my sound.
Hmm, if you're having reverb issues with any of the NTG shotgun mics in your room, I'm not sure that this will do any better. Unless you can boom it closer to you, that will help with reverb.
Just checked, I was wrong. The S-Mic 2S is smaller in diameter than the Vmic D3 Pro so it does not fit. You could potentially add some sort of rubber material to act as a shim but out of the box, it does not fit.
How can one connect SMic 2s with a USB C Phone in simplest way possible, I know Smic 2 needs a Phantom 48V power & some gain thru a audio recorder, which if we record on a Camera can be made possible, but if someone wants to do a LIVE INSTAGRAM session from Mobile with this Mic 2s, Can you suggest a solution please?
Nice boom pole. Nice Cyclone. I must say, that I've really come to not like the sound from the S-mics.... There's like some "muddiness"... not "forward" enough. I bought an Octava w/hypercardioid and it sounds SO much better than the S-mic - I was shocked it was that much better... I even prefer it outdoors in the blimp to the s-mic - I think I'll sell it. I do like my Aputure lights, however.
Deity microphones are actually made by different factories as I heard from my Chinese partner. And all of them use available microphone elements offered to any OEM, Deity can use top of the line available in China, but still not up to the western manufacturers quality.
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2S for fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this? thanks
Would the Deity D3 Pro be more similar to the S-Mic 2S than the S-Mic 2 in its applications and side rejection? I guess it's essentially a short shotgun mic as well.
Yes. The main differences are that the D3 Pro has an aluminum build rather than brass so not as immune to RF interference and of course has a 3.5mm output instead of XLR.
Look for a pair of pencil condenser mics with a cardiod or hyper-cardioid pattern. Then learn about how to reduce phasing issues with dual-mic setups. Honestly, there are many options within that budget, so you'll find some easily.
Sure. Here are a couple of previous episode where we cover these types of microphones specifically: th-cam.com/video/q-b_1gOYOEQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/iLOp-_oIzeg/w-d-xo.html
I mostly shoot interviews for small companies, would you recommend this over other microphones in this price range for indoor dialogue? Or is there another microphone you would choose over this?
I notice these mics were a little out of my price range. How do you think the Audio-Technica AT875R short condenser shotgun compares in sound quality for indoor boom recordings. I used a longer shotgun mic on a recent shoot and was getting a voice echo from the room I was in. Should I wait and save up more money to get a mic in the +- $400 range?
It depends on what you’ve got available now and which problem(s) you’re trying to solve. The AT 875R is a decent mic but not likely to eliminate reverb in rooms like that.
@@curtisjudd I used the Audio-Technica AT897 shotgun mic. I also own the Senal SCI-3212 but it has a lot of mic noise. Adobe Premiere can easily reduce this noise but I guess it would be nice to have a cleaner recording. By the way, you have a great channel I love your reviews. Thanks.
Hi Curtis, I’m new to the channel. I was wandering have you ever or have of any one used a shotgun mic for… let’s say an outdoor wedding ceremony as a stationary mic, pointed at bride and groom?
@@curtisjudd thanks, I was looking to use it for a ceremony in lieu of a body pack and receiver to broadcast over my speakers (live situation) not so much for video purpose. I think I might get one and just try out.
How would you compare it (sound wise) to V-Mic 3 Pro? Is that the same mic, just adapted for xlr connection (instead of camera) or is it another mic entirely?
It sounds similar and the capsule may be the same, I’m not sure. But the D3 pro has a battery and the circuitry to figure out what it is connected to so there are at least those differences. I noticed some RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a RODELink transmitter by it but didn’t get any interference with the S-Mic 2S.
@@curtisjudd Thanks... I experimentally used D3 Pro as an indoor "podcast mic" (on an tabletop arm) and it worked amazingly well. Almost like real large diaphragm radio microphones (this is the video: facebook.com/StudioAvenir/videos/713036652457630/ ). S-Mic2 got too much phase interference (plus some weird noise) in that room and a shorter mic was better. But I will probably not buy it if it sounds the same as D3.
First - great video as always - I have learned so much from your channels. I cannot begin to thank you enough. You are actually one of the few TH-camrs that actually answer comments as well. I would love for you to shoot a new Order of Operations video for loudness normalization - the one from 2017 is a great, but a little dated. As a new TH-camr - I am trying hard to make my audio much better than before. Can you please review below and let me know if I am can anything better in my audio chain? Strictly for talking head TH-cam Videos: TH-cam Audio Chain EOS R to MixPre 3 II (for scratch audio) Shure SM7B + se Electronics DM1Preamp/Rode NT1 to MixPre 3 II (main audio) 32-bit Float / 96 KHZ / 80 HZ Low Cut filter = on Final Cut Pro X My audio workflow using RX 7 Standard: 1.) RX 7 Phase (adaptive phase rotation) 2.) RX 7 EQ High Pass Filter (80 Hz) 3.) RX 7 Repair Assistant (Noise Reduction, De-Click, De-Crackle, De-Ess, De-Hum) 4.) RX 7 Breath Control (heavy breather) 5.) RX 7 Kotelnikov Compressor 6.) RX 7 LoudMax Limiter or Ozone 8 Elements Maximizer (to even out the loudness) 7.) RX 7 Loudness Normalize -1 dB 8.) Youlean Loudness Meter 2 Pro (check LUFS with TH-cam Setting - not go over -14 LUFS) Thank You Again!
Hi Ajushi Photography, thanks. This still looks good, even in 2019 though I don't find Youlean meter necessary if you use the RX Loudness module - it does all of the loudness normalizing offline much faster than the real-time Youlean meter. You could save yourself a bit of time there.
I caved and upgraded to RX 7 Advanced since it was on sale. So now I can use the leveler and loudness options. Just one question please - the leveler will take the place of the compressor / limiter in steps 5 & 6 in my audio chain above correct?
@@AjushiPhotography The leveler can be used in conjunction with the compressor. I would do the leveler first, then follow that up with compression as needed. The reason I say that is that if you push the leveling too hard, it tends to sound rather odd. I prefer to just use the compressor but first manually adjust any words or phrases which stick way out.
I make short films and youtube videos. What would you recommend? Deity S-mic 2s or VMic D3 pro or rode ntg 4 plus...Thank You! Your videos are awesome and you are my Audio God 😊
Hi! Thank you for your VERY informative reviews! I mainly shoot 1-3 person interviews (1 person the most, 3 the least) and a lot of narrative work. 70% indoors. Would you think getting two Deity S mic 2Ss is the best option? I’ll likely set them in an XY configuration for >2 person stuff. I’m wondering how the Rode ntg5 would be useful for me though, after watching your positive reviews on them. Thanks again!
Hi Brian, the NTG5 has a substantially more focused polar pattern which isolates the sound at which the microphone is aimed a fair bit better than the S-Mic 2S and even the S-Mic 2. The NTG5 is, of course, a fair bit more expensive, but if I could only choose one, I'd definitely choose the RODE.
@@curtisjudd Thanks! Should I be worrying about indoor phase issues with the Rode ntg5? I’m not sure if the problem is due to the length or the polar pattern of the mic. And the tighter polar pattern makes the rode less suitable for XY configurations? Really appreciate your help!
@@briangoh2403 Not if you aim the mic and if in a particularly reverberant space, you manage the reverb with sound blankets. Are you trying to do stereo recordings or are you trying to mic each interview participant? If you're trying to do that with three people, you will pick up a fair bit of room ambient sound. Not sure if that's your goal.
@@curtisjudd Ah I see. I’m just trying to capture clear audio with three people but buying three mics seems a bit over the budget. Perhaps I’ll buy two and rent an extra one when needed. Thank you so much for your help!
The primary difference is that the S-Mic 2S is a shotgun microphone with an interference tube design, made for outdoor use. The Oktava has interchangeable capsules with different polar patterns and does not have the interference tube design. That eliminates the risk of the phase issues which you can sometimes get when using a shotgun mic in a reverberant room.
@@curtisjudd does the shorter tube of the S-Mic 2S help with recording in reverberant spaces? I have the regular S-Mic 2 and a pair of MK-012s with the hypercardioid capsule already. The only benefit of the S-Mic 2S I see is the brass body being having resistance to RF interference, and the moisture resistance which won't be an issue indoors, unless a sprinkler system is triggered or you're recording in a house and a pipe bursts or something.
@@curtisjudd I got the bigger Deity S-Mic 2, I think it'll pair pretty well with the MK-012. They're both pretty neutral mics. The MK-012 isn't Schoeps flat by any means, but the presence boost is only about 2 dB on mine if the plots that came with them are accurate.
@@curtisjudd wow thanks for the reply Curtis! So the s-mic 2s isn't what I should buy? I'm just getting into production of myself for my own videos. I've got a lav and wanted to add a better mic for voiceover in my studio and to mount on my camera for vlog style clips. Can you recommend something for me? 😁 Thanks again
@@Nickporter17 The RODE VideoMic Pro+ and Deity D3 Pro are both worth considering: RODE VideoMic Pro+: th-cam.com/video/gcMVSzVt-LI/w-d-xo.html Deity D3 Pro: th-cam.com/video/W9Sde3ey2kc/w-d-xo.html
I ended up buying this mic using your affiliate link. I'm using a small $30 inline preamp and mounted them together on top of my camera. This set up works great for running around vlog style. Not sure it sounds any better than one of the purpose build on camera mics would sound. I was hoping to use this mic for voiceover too, but I'm pretty disappointed with the quality of the sound. I was expecting it to be significantly better than those one camera shotguns when spoken directly into. Was hoping for a rich sounds with nice proximity effect, etc. It just sounds flat and boring. Even the zoom H1 is more interesting as a voice over mic. I've seen people using mkh-416 for studio mics and wondering if this mic is just significantly worse at that type of audio recording?
Similar sound but for different setups. This has an XLR output and assumed to be used on a boom stand or boom pole. D3 Pro is made to be mounted on camera but can be adapted to be boomed.
Couple things... how can the polar pattern of a short shotgun be a con? Isn't that the nature of the tool? Longer gun for a tighter pickup would be the better tool selection. Next, manufacturers need to STOP printing their logo on the windscreens. I understand they probably think it's a disposable piece and a better shield will be used, but in my business the supplied screen is generally good enough. Yet we cannot show logos on screen. Thus I'd have to buy a replacement right from the start. Picky, yes, but still an added expense.
Curtis, your reviews are always revealing to me. Thanks for all the knowledge you're bringing to us. I'd like to ask you if you had ever made any review about a good first shotgun mic. I'm in this research for a long time and there are so many relative good options at the market that it makes me confused about which to invest. If you already have done some review like this, could you share with me the link? Thank you again. Best wishes!!
Hi Paulo, there are many good options out there. I do not have a video specifically about a first shotgun microphone, but I do have a few suggestions depending on your budget. The Audio Technica AT875R is a good option for under $200 USD. The DEITY S-Mic 2 is a good option for the $300 range and the RODE NTG5 is great at $500. Hope that helps and best of wishes!
Actually I’ve seen many of your reviews already and the rode’s one are very much expensive to me right now. I’ve even looked for the deltys to, but Theo don’t send to Brazil.
To my ears, on Azden and Sennheiser mics your voice sound better than both of Deity ones, though short version sound bit worse, with lower level of low end frequencies.
Thanks a lot, great review as usual! I'm still wondering with one I should get between the S-Mic2 and the 2S... As an independant filmmaker I'll do mostly voice recording on set (by myself most of the time), but I plan on recording foley as well. Does it make any difference in a controlled environment/studio, or will the S2 have a slight advantage because it's less directionnal?
Good review as usual ...this new piece seems to me like Rode NT5 or Nt55 or 5s ..I wished if you include it in your review ...I think you allready have it ..
Hi Ahmed, no, this microphone is different with and interference tube while the NT5 and NT55 do not. The shotgun is intended more for outdoor use while the NT5 and 55 where mainly intended for recording instruments indoors. If RODE would add a super-cardioid capsule, it’d be a great option for dialogue.
Always a good start to the day when there’s a new Curtis Judd video!
Thanks Bandrew!
You should really review this mic. I think it's likely a really good option for some voice talent. I personally prefer shotgun mics these days for voice over, and this seems to be a great indoor shotgun.
LMAO!! “He does stuff like that.” That crazy guy. 😂😂😂
Keep being the kind of guy who hucks microphones into toilets to confirm they’re waterproof. We love you! 😀
How about a mic in that backyard waterfall?..
Curtis Judd. Awwww. 😁
InsaneJughead. That’s s great idea!
entertainment value X 100 for sure!
Wow, the off axis rejection of the Sennheiser is superb! There is a reason why it is the industry standard... :-)
I trust all is well with you and yours! Keep the videos coming. Looking forward to the MixPre II review/comparison...
Cheers,
Greg
Hi Greg - yes, the MKH 416 is legendary, partly for that reason. Good to hear from you and hope all is well! Just posted a MixPre II new features overview on the other channel: th-cam.com/video/tf1g-daRfu4/w-d-xo.html
I'm very pleased with my Diety S-Mic 2 (long one) bought on Curtis' recommendation. I really love the sound and the price! Great review and comparison, as usual!!!
Thanks Alex and glad to hear the microphone is working well for you!
What recorder do you use and recommend?
I couldn't find an easy comparison chart for the 2 vs the 2S, so of course I came here. I'll be grabbing the 2S since I'm shooting indoors in a small room 99% of the time 👍👍
👍 Excellent - looking forward to your lighting reviews recorded with this.
another great vid as usual, Curtis! Been looking into Deity and they seem like a great value
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Watching this video still in my bed, right in the morning. You made my day Curtis Judd!
Hahaha! Have a great day!
Deity mics are a viable option for budget conscious film makers, but sometimes I feel that in the long run you're better off just investing on old reliable and industry proven products, if you can afford the up front cost. Awesome review as always!
Thanks for the insight Johnny.
Agree, resale value for Deity is horrible. I used their first premium shotgun, no one had been interested even at 30% of original price.
@@adult-songs True. No legendary mics int he Deity lineup yet since they've only been around for 2 years.
You looked so disgusted while holding the noise speaker. LOL.
Wonderful review as always.
Cheers!
Hahaha! That's my concentrating look, evidently. Sorry about that!
You always do awesome, very in depth reviews and analysis. Great job!
Thanks Gary!
Thank you for this test. I was on the fence between Deity S-Mic 2 and 2s and now I know which to get
Thanks Billy. Happy recording!
That fan test just sold me on the 416!
Glad it helped!
I can’t decide between the mic 2s and the at4053b for indoor use
The AT4053B produces less self-noise in my practical tests.
@@curtisjudd thank you so much! Your advice is priceless. Love the channel
4:29 I love how you did that off-axis test! Amazing! And, wow, that Sennheiser was so good. Holy moly. I just checked the price. $1,000! No wonder! xD
Yes, it isn't cheap but I've been to the Sennheiser factory where they make them and I see and hear why they cost what they do.
Yea the Sennheiser was really good!!!
Amazing review. So many great real world examples.
Thanks Kevin!
Definitely excited about the price on this microphone. I’ve been looking for a dialogue mic for indoors interviews. This is exactly what I need!
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Another great video.... So pick up the regular Deity S mic 2 cause it is so damn good.
For those who don't have the best control over the recording environment, it serves them well.
But there is no one 'perfect' mic for all circumstances.
Thanks!
Thanks Curtis! As always, very useful review
Thanks Alex!
Hi Curtis, just another great review, as always. Thanks.
Thanks!
Hey Curtis, I just picked this up after watching a ton a videos. Wanted a shotgun mic that would work well indoors and outdoors. What was the windmuff/blimp you used at 7:11? I'll mostly be using the mic indoors, but I would like to use it outdoors when I go camping. Thank you!
That is the Rycote Cyclone. It is not a cheap windshield, but works very nicely, especially in high winds. A less expensive option would be the RODE Blimp wind shield.
Very good review. But will you do a review of the new Rode NTG5 as well?
Yes.
Great job as usual Curtis. Thanks.
Thanks Stevie.
Nicely done. Informative and fair, with practical examples.
Thanks RallenMan!
Absolutely fantastic reviews as always! Thank you for this great in depth review and First Look of the Deity S-Mic 2S!
I'm keen to see your review of Rode short shotgun mic the NTG5
Thanks Idin! The NTG-5 is on its way from Australia so hopefully we will have a review up in the next few weeks.
@@curtisjudd That's fantastic to hear! I'm so excited to her your thought and test results!
Thanks Curtis. As always, a most informative, and balanced review.
You are my go to person for sound advice. Pun intended. :)
Hahaha! Thanks Andrew!
Sennheiser MKH 416 rocks for polar pattern!
I also preferred Azden sound to Deity's.
Thanks for the input!
@@curtisjudd, my pleasure, Curtis.
Hey curtis , nice new intro music, it's a nice choice.
Thanks!
It's a really good mic
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This man is a angel on earth… Thanks
Thanks travella.
Great video, helped a ton, thank you so much!
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How does this Deity S-Mic 2S compare to Deity V-Mic D3 (Pro)?
This mic has a balanced XLR output while the D3 Pro has a 3.5mm output. The D3 Pro can be adapted to balanced XLR. I believe I experienced a bit of RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a wireless transmitter by it on a boom pole so it doesn’t appear to be as well shielded as the S-Mic 2S.
Curtis Judd thanks for another great review. How does this compare against the D-3 Pro when it comes to reverb/echo indoors?
@@D_L_J_83 About the same.
Curtis, unrelated question, but Where did you get those glasses, I seriously like them and I am looking for a new pair.
Hi Rob. Those are cheap "Blue blocking" glasses from Amazon. I wear them when working on computers or under LED lights because my eyes feel a lot less fatigued when I wear them. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHNNS77/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=timligmusonth-20&linkId=f0f2e83a29745ce73a88fa2424c7761e&language=en_US
Thanks for the review Curtis. Like everyone, I have been waiting for the review of the S-Mic 2s.
I thought it sounded great, and if I got my super picky cap on, a bit thinner than I expected, but with “relaxed” high frequencies. Deity’s intent to have their mic’s cut together should work, I think the high end matches, but the low end presence difference may have to be dealt with somehow depending on the situation.
The voice does seem to sit forward with the S-Mic 2s, and when you consider this with all the other mic’s I have heard in this price range, I would consider this one of, if not the best I’ve heard so far.
Side note;
The MKH-416’s noise floor and rear rejection were stellar. I’m not sure if you lucked into a really good one, or if that is characteristic of all of them.
And this had nothing to do with anything, but I thought your voice sounded best on the Azden SGM-3500.
All the best.
The MKH 416 has been unchanged for several decades. That is how it do.
@@insanejughead Thank goodness they haven't changed it. I was referring to the specific mic Curtis has. I have heard other 416's that were good, of course, it just seems like the one Curtis has is exceptional. I don't know if it's the day, the room, the test, whatever it is, in this video the 416 he has was great.
@@LloydPuckitt It's the room. He treats it so that unnecessary sounds are mitigated.
Thanks Lloyd for the insights. Good to hear from you and hope all is well! Funny thing is that I just added the 416 to the kit for shotgun microphone reviews because there have been so many requests to use it as a reference for comparison. It sounds better than I remember from a job I did probably 5 years ago.
Nice review as always
Would you use this mic rigged on a dslr camera? Or bmpcc ?
Hi Gabo, yes, you definitely could.
Curtis Judd thank you!!
Do you have a blimp recommendation for this mic? I have a dead cat for it but it's not enough to keep out medium/heavy wind.
Yes, I'd look at the RODE Blimp: geni.us/q85v
Full disclosure: This is an affiliate link. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
Love your reviews, what’s your go to boom at the moment?
I’m interested in this though been burned with other cheaper gear , so these days stick to the more expensive brands
For indoor, Sennheiser MKH8050. For outdoor, DPA 4017B.
Curtis Judd been eyeing off both those
Great Review. I've watched it many times. Any thoughts between the Deity S Mic 2s and the Azden SGM 3500. I'm in the market for a short shotgun mic since most of my work is in doors and the backorder for the Rode NTG5 is about three months wait at this point.
I’d probably opt for the Azden.
@@curtisjudd I decided to go with the Rode NTG 5. Now just waiting for the back orders to fill. If It takes too long I'll take another look at the 3500.
Great review Curtis.
One question: Does this mic have a better sound quality than the Deity V-Mic D3 pro and the Rode Videomic Pro+?
That question can only get you a subjective response. What specifically do you want in a microphone's sound profile?
For example, on paper, the Røde Ntg4 is 'better' than the Ntg2, but Curtis doesn't like the Ntg4 much for its frequency profile.
Agreed!
Well, they all sound pretty similar. What this has which the other two do not have is better RF shielding. However, if you're going to attach the mic to the top of your camera, the other two are made for that. The S-Mic 2S would require a third party cold-shoe shock mount.
@@curtisjudd OK Thx Curtis.
Curtis, two questions:
First in mixing mics is there a major difference? I have an NTG-3 & wonder if mixing that with the S Mic 2S would be really apparent.
Second what is the blimp at the 6:24 mark?
If the two shotgun mics are each used for a different person, it isn’t usually an issue though I would usually try to stay to all medium or all short shotguns. The windshield is a Rycote Cyclone.
How does it compare soundwise with deity d3 pro? I own that one-should I upgrade to Smic 2s?
I wouldn't. The S-Mic 2S (the short one, not the original S-Mic 2) is a bit too noisy for its price, in my opinion.
That blimp is stinkin' cool!! What is that??
That's the Rycote Cyclone.
The off axis coloration (esp. on a moving source) on the S Mic 2 S seems a lot lower than the other longer mics. The frequency response remains consistent and that makes me lean towards that. I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of rejection most of the time for a more balanced sound. If you're in a really noisy environment, even a mile long mic won't do anything. You're better off finding a quieter location or moving away from the noise source rather than just relying on the directionality of the mic.
Makes sense.
After watching the video, I bought the Deity S-Mic 2s and I really like the sound. However, when I use the mic with the Rode Wireless Go II system, it picks up noise when I point the mic away from the speaker with the transmitter (when the back of the mic or the XLR connector comes near one of the Rode GO II transmitters). Is there something wrong with my microphone? Is there anything that can be done about this problem? Thank you for your support and the great work you are doing!
You can try using a longer cable between the mic and transmitter, just 30cm or so…
Hi Curtis. Thank you for great review! I need your wise opinion. Sometimes I need to record an interviews in the shopping malls. I have Rode NTG 3, but it get all reflections, i also have Audio-Technica 4053b (thank you for recommendation! Using it almost 3 years now) it is works great in echo environment but it is not reject background noice as good as ntg3. Should i buy Deity sMic2s ? Will it be something in the middle between those mics? Thank you
Hi Alexey, hmm, that’s a tough call. The DEITY’s polar pattern is not as focused as the NTG3 but I’m not sure it will do better in terms of reflections. In fact. The S-Mic2S polar pattern is quite similar to the AT. Any chance you could use handheld interview mics?
Thanks for video!
I need to record an interview with high-quality sound. Please advise me what to choose.
This would a good choice!
@@curtisjudd thank you!
@@curtisjudd But he has not yet appeared on sale. So that you advise that the quality was about the same, but you need to buy right now. And what do you think about rode ntg 3?
@@СамСебеАдвокат-д8е NTG3 is a very good option.
Fancy graphics! UpTown! and high quality! Did you DIY, or hire it done? Very impressive review.
Thanks Dan. I hired that out to someone much more skilled than me at motion graphics.
It's crazy how good the Sennheiser sounds!
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Surprisingly better than all the others in this comparison. I hadn’t expected that - a little better, yes...but not so dramatically.
The 416 is so good it is almost boring. No excuse to buy anything else, ever again.
Awesome video! This is probably an open ended question, but do you have any recommendations for an indoor (untreated room) interview mic that handles reverb and interference well? I've used the NTG2 for years, but I think it's time for an upgrade -- it especially struggled with interference when shooting in a large city, and of course there are better options if I'm only going to be shooting seated interviews indoors. Is there anything off the top of your head that you would recommend in the 300-600 dollar range? Thank you so much for your time and videos!
RODE NTG5 is worth a look: th-cam.com/video/bv1xUShuUY0/w-d-xo.html
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much!
I wonder how this mic would work on the Sony FX3 sound handle? Trying to decide between this and the Sony ECM-VG1.
I’d probably research the Sony a bit more.
Hi Curtis! How is it compared to AT4053b? Should i get one for backup?
I got a special invitation for a Deity event that will happen here in PH next week.
Thinking about getting one heheh thanks so much!
+1 for the 4053b comparison, was gonna ask the same thing as it has been an indoor favorite for Curtis iirc
Hmm, they're different in that this is a shotgun mic and the 4053B is a non-shotgun hyper. If I had the budget, I'd opt for the 4053B since I do a lot of indoor interviews and prefer the sound of the 4053B.
Mikhail Pineda uy boss nandito ka hehe. How's the quality nung deity s-mic2s sa test mo?
Hi Curtis,
I'm putting together a field mix kit. I have a Zoom H6. Now I need a mic. I had originally thought NTG-2 but then read that it might not be a good choice for indoor shoots because of possible comb filtering. Would the Deity S Mic 2s be a better choice if I only gonna go with 1 mic? It's more than I want to spend right now but maybe it'll fit the bill. If you have a different suggestion for me that'd be great!
Thanks for producing awesome videos!
Hi Chris, If the budget is tight, I'd consider the Audio Technica AT875R. Sounds better than the NTG2 and is under $200 last time I checked. Works nicely indoors.
@@curtisjudd - thanks
I've been considering a shotgun microphone for inside the workshop. This one seems like it may be a good contender. I just haven't been too terribly happy with the audio of my rode Wireless go. But that is also me not knowing how to adjust anything in post. It may be a wonderful guitar I just don't know how to play it. Thanks for sharing Curtis.
-Will
👍 You bet! Still need to have a look at that GO Lavalier. How has that worked so far?
@@curtisjudd Better than just the on board audio of my phone or dslr. Sounds real tight and boxy. Maybe I can open it up with some adjustments in post.
-Will
Very helpful, thank you!
Thanks Dan.
Hi, I am sorry to ask you a similar question on a different video, but I will phrase it differently and make it easier to understand. If you could use only one mic for a discussion panel, where 4 people are seated on one side of a long table, and the mic would be stationary on a stand in front of them, would you use this S Mic-2 or a D3 pro? Thanks!
To pick up 4 people, Perhaps a boundary mic or at least a condenser microphone with a wider polar pattern would be a better choice than a shotgun microphone. Something like a RODE NT1, but keep in mind the 4 people will need to be seated quite close to the mic. If there is a PA system involved, you'll want to make sure the mic is not in front of the speakers or you'll probably have feedback issues.
Any idea of the difference between this and a Diety V-Mic D-3?
This mic has a balanced XLR output while the D3 Pro has a 3.5mm output. The D3 Pro can be adapted to balanced XLR. I believe I experienced a bit of RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a wireless transmitter by it on a boom pole so it doesn’t appear to be as well shielded as the S-Mic 2S.
Would this be the best current option for the price when recording indoors in a small (12x12ft) carpeted room? I used the NTG a few years back but switched to lavs because shotguns were always so echoey indoors, but now that I'm stepping up my quality I wonder if this kind of short shotgun would be the way to improve my sound.
Get a pencil condenser cardiod or hyper-cardioid. Those will suit you the best in that environment.
Hmm, if you're having reverb issues with any of the NTG shotgun mics in your room, I'm not sure that this will do any better. Unless you can boom it closer to you, that will help with reverb.
Or that. Again, will need to be boomed very close.
Hi Curtis! Does this mic fit into the Rycote shock mount that came with the D3 Pro Location Kit?
I'm guessing yes, but will check when I get a few minutes.
Just checked, I was wrong. The S-Mic 2S is smaller in diameter than the Vmic D3 Pro so it does not fit. You could potentially add some sort of rubber material to act as a shim but out of the box, it does not fit.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for checking!
thanks for the video ! I have a deity d3 pro . What about the difference between d3 pro vs the 2s? which one do you prefer? thanks a lot!
I don't see a big advantage to the S-Mic 2S. The boost in quality comes with the full-size S-Mic 2.
How can one connect SMic 2s with a USB C Phone in simplest way possible, I know Smic 2 needs a Phantom 48V power & some gain thru a audio recorder, which if we record on a Camera can be made possible, but if someone wants to do a LIVE INSTAGRAM session from Mobile with this Mic 2s, Can you suggest a solution please?
This works: th-cam.com/video/zm6WCGIQ7ak/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Is it my own impression or is the Deity 2s not so good with dynamics, it struggles in loud or quiet to loud situations
It certainly produces more self noise. But I haven't used it much since this review so not sure about dynamics.
Nice boom pole. Nice Cyclone. I must say, that I've really come to not like the sound from the S-mics.... There's like some "muddiness"... not "forward" enough. I bought an Octava w/hypercardioid and it sounds SO much better than the S-mic - I was shocked it was that much better... I even prefer it outdoors in the blimp to the s-mic - I think I'll sell it. I do like my Aputure lights, however.
Thanks Mike. Hearing is definitely subjective and the Oktava sounds good to me, too.
Deity microphones are actually made by different factories as I heard from my Chinese partner. And all of them use available microphone elements offered to any OEM, Deity can use top of the line available in China, but still not up to the western manufacturers quality.
Thanks for explaining so well, helped a lot. I just got Deity S-mic2S for fx3 for run and gun shoot. I am getting lots of handling noise through mic, is there a way to get around this? thanks
Yes, you'll want to mount it on a good quality shock mount.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis, will try that.
I have a Sony FX6 for documentary shoot. Which mic is better, S-Mic 2S and S-Mic 2, please?
2S is rather noisy so I’d go with the original 2
@@curtisjudd Oh, what caused noise?
@@invisiblelovehaha The 2S generates more hiss/self-noise than the original S-Mic 2.
Would the Deity D3 Pro be more similar to the S-Mic 2S than the S-Mic 2 in its applications and side rejection? I guess it's essentially a short shotgun mic as well.
Yes. The main differences are that the D3 Pro has an aluminum build rather than brass so not as immune to RF interference and of course has a 3.5mm output instead of XLR.
@@curtisjudd Ah that makes sense. I hadn't thought about the body being aluminum. Thanks, and great video as always!
Hey Curtis, can you give me a couple of options for a $500 or less microphone for a boomed sit-down interview, and secondarily dramatic dialog?
Look for a pair of pencil condenser mics with a cardiod or hyper-cardioid pattern. Then learn about how to reduce phasing issues with dual-mic setups.
Honestly, there are many options within that budget, so you'll find some easily.
Sure. Here are a couple of previous episode where we cover these types of microphones specifically:
th-cam.com/video/q-b_1gOYOEQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/iLOp-_oIzeg/w-d-xo.html
I mostly shoot interviews for small companies, would you recommend this over other microphones in this price range for indoor dialogue? Or is there another microphone you would choose over this?
Hi Trevor, This is my favorite option in this price range for indoor interviews.
Any chance deity is planning a hypercardiod? Would love an alternative to the SCX1 HC
They're releasing the Unimic (w/ interchangeable capsules) next year I believe.
They are planning a super-cardioid. Actually, I believe it will have inter-changeable capsules with a variety of polar patterns.
Interesting, still navigating options for short docs. Surprised that there was almost a $700 difference in the two mics.
Best wishes on your doc projects!
@@curtisjudd Thanks!
I managed to get some serious comb filter issue with a Schoeps in a not so reverberant room. Not fun at all.
Ah, interesting! Yes, nigh impossible to fix in post.
@@curtisjudd But now I know I should use shorter shotgun instead : )
I notice these mics were a little out of my price range. How do you think the Audio-Technica AT875R short condenser shotgun compares in sound quality for indoor boom recordings. I used a longer shotgun mic on a recent shoot and was getting a voice echo from the room I was in. Should I wait and save up more money to get a mic in the +- $400 range?
It depends on what you’ve got available now and which problem(s) you’re trying to solve. The AT 875R is a decent mic but not likely to eliminate reverb in rooms like that.
@@curtisjudd I used the Audio-Technica AT897 shotgun mic. I also own the Senal SCI-3212 but it has a lot of mic noise. Adobe Premiere can easily reduce this noise but I guess it would be nice to have a cleaner recording. By the way, you have a great channel I love your reviews. Thanks.
Thanks Rhett, good to know the AT897 is working well!
How does this compare to the Synco mic d2
I don't have them to make a comparison. I'm sorry.
Would this be a good option for on on camera use in terms of the amount of handling noise?
Yes, with a good shockmount.
very interesting and complete!!..thanks!
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Hi Curtis, I’m new to the channel. I was wandering have you ever or have of any one used a shotgun mic for… let’s say an outdoor wedding ceremony as a stationary mic, pointed at bride and groom?
I haven't. It could work better than a camera mounted mic, but usually the wedding video folks use lavaliers with wireless or body pack recorders.
@@curtisjudd thanks, I was looking to use it for a ceremony in lieu of a body pack and receiver to broadcast over my speakers (live situation) not so much for video purpose. I think I might get one and just try out.
@@djkeithjust Ah, understood. That could work nicely.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions just got to select the right mic now! These things are pricey!
@@djkeithjust Yes. On the positive side, good mics will last for decades.
How would you compare it (sound wise) to V-Mic 3 Pro? Is that the same mic, just adapted for xlr connection (instead of camera) or is it another mic entirely?
It sounds similar and the capsule may be the same, I’m not sure. But the D3 pro has a battery and the circuitry to figure out what it is connected to so there are at least those differences. I noticed some RF interference on the D3 pro when I mounted a RODELink transmitter by it but didn’t get any interference with the S-Mic 2S.
@@curtisjudd Thanks... I experimentally used D3 Pro as an indoor "podcast mic" (on an tabletop arm) and it worked amazingly well. Almost like real large diaphragm radio microphones (this is the video: facebook.com/StudioAvenir/videos/713036652457630/ ). S-Mic2 got too much phase interference (plus some weird noise) in that room and a shorter mic was better. But I will probably not buy it if it sounds the same as D3.
Did change ur ligting setup and grading? This is much better than ur other videos. I liked it.
No, same lighting, different camera - Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema 6K.
I always love your reviews. Let me know if you're ever out filming in Hawaii, I'd love to shoot with you!
Thanks, will do!
First - great video as always - I have learned so much from your channels. I cannot begin to thank you enough. You are actually one of the few TH-camrs that actually answer comments as well. I would love for you to shoot a new Order of Operations video for loudness normalization - the one from 2017 is a great, but a little dated. As a new TH-camr - I am trying hard to make my audio much better than before. Can you please review below and let me know if I am can anything better in my audio chain? Strictly for talking head TH-cam Videos:
TH-cam Audio Chain
EOS R to MixPre 3 II (for scratch audio)
Shure SM7B + se Electronics DM1Preamp/Rode NT1 to MixPre 3 II (main audio)
32-bit Float / 96 KHZ / 80 HZ Low Cut filter = on
Final Cut Pro X
My audio workflow using RX 7 Standard:
1.) RX 7 Phase (adaptive phase rotation)
2.) RX 7 EQ High Pass Filter (80 Hz)
3.) RX 7 Repair Assistant (Noise Reduction, De-Click, De-Crackle, De-Ess, De-Hum)
4.) RX 7 Breath Control (heavy breather)
5.) RX 7 Kotelnikov Compressor
6.) RX 7 LoudMax Limiter or Ozone 8 Elements Maximizer (to even out the loudness)
7.) RX 7 Loudness Normalize -1 dB
8.) Youlean Loudness Meter 2 Pro (check LUFS with TH-cam Setting - not go over -14 LUFS)
Thank You Again!
Hi Ajushi Photography, thanks. This still looks good, even in 2019 though I don't find Youlean meter necessary if you use the RX Loudness module - it does all of the loudness normalizing offline much faster than the real-time Youlean meter. You could save yourself a bit of time there.
Curtis Judd - Your the best - sorry mis-typed - use RX 7 normalize not loudness in step 7 since I only have RX 7 standard
I caved and upgraded to RX 7 Advanced since it was on sale. So now I can use the leveler and loudness options. Just one question please - the leveler will take the place of the compressor / limiter in steps 5 & 6 in my audio chain above correct?
@@AjushiPhotography The leveler can be used in conjunction with the compressor. I would do the leveler first, then follow that up with compression as needed. The reason I say that is that if you push the leveling too hard, it tends to sound rather odd. I prefer to just use the compressor but first manually adjust any words or phrases which stick way out.
Curtis Judd - Thank You!
What kind of blimp at 6:28 ?
Rycote Cylcone Medium.
Nice review !
Thanks Artem!
Sennheiser mke 600 in this group?
I didn't have an MKE 600 on hand to compare to these, unfortunately. But yes, the MKE600 is in this same range.
I make short films and youtube videos. What would you recommend? Deity S-mic 2s or VMic D3 pro or rode ntg 4 plus...Thank You! Your videos are awesome and you are my Audio God 😊
Hi Sandip, are you planning to record the audio to your camera or to an audio recorder? If to camera, I'd recommend the D3 Pro. Best wishes@
Mostly on an audio recorder. As price for those microphones are not that different, I was thinking which will work better for long run.
@@CreativeCreationful I would skip the NTG4+ regardless. For recording to an audio recorder, I would choose the S-Mic 2S.
Thank you so much!
Hi! Thank you for your VERY informative reviews! I mainly shoot 1-3 person interviews (1 person the most, 3 the least) and a lot of narrative work. 70% indoors. Would you think getting two Deity S mic 2Ss is the best option? I’ll likely set them in an XY configuration for >2 person stuff. I’m wondering how the Rode ntg5 would be useful for me though, after watching your positive reviews on them. Thanks again!
Hi Brian, the NTG5 has a substantially more focused polar pattern which isolates the sound at which the microphone is aimed a fair bit better than the S-Mic 2S and even the S-Mic 2. The NTG5 is, of course, a fair bit more expensive, but if I could only choose one, I'd definitely choose the RODE.
@@curtisjudd Thanks! Should I be worrying about indoor phase issues with the Rode ntg5? I’m not sure if the problem is due to the length or the polar pattern of the mic. And the tighter polar pattern makes the rode less suitable for XY configurations? Really appreciate your help!
@@briangoh2403 Not if you aim the mic and if in a particularly reverberant space, you manage the reverb with sound blankets. Are you trying to do stereo recordings or are you trying to mic each interview participant? If you're trying to do that with three people, you will pick up a fair bit of room ambient sound. Not sure if that's your goal.
@@curtisjudd Ah I see. I’m just trying to capture clear audio with three people but buying three mics seems a bit over the budget. Perhaps I’ll buy two and rent an extra one when needed. Thank you so much for your help!
How does the S-Mic 2S compare to the Oktava MK-012?
The primary difference is that the S-Mic 2S is a shotgun microphone with an interference tube design, made for outdoor use. The Oktava has interchangeable capsules with different polar patterns and does not have the interference tube design. That eliminates the risk of the phase issues which you can sometimes get when using a shotgun mic in a reverberant room.
@@curtisjudd does the shorter tube of the S-Mic 2S help with recording in reverberant spaces? I have the regular S-Mic 2 and a pair of MK-012s with the hypercardioid capsule already. The only benefit of the S-Mic 2S I see is the brass body being having resistance to RF interference, and the moisture resistance which won't be an issue indoors, unless a sprinkler system is triggered or you're recording in a house and a pipe bursts or something.
@@dylanj8676 It seems to reduce the risk of phasing issues, yes. But it doesn't eliminate the reverb. I'd stick with the MK-012 for indoor use.
@@curtisjudd I got the bigger Deity S-Mic 2, I think it'll pair pretty well with the MK-012. They're both pretty neutral mics. The MK-012 isn't Schoeps flat by any means, but the presence boost is only about 2 dB on mine if the plots that came with them are accurate.
I agree. That combo should work nicely!
what shock mount at 6:42? Do you like it?
Hi Andrew, that is a the Rycote pistol grip shock mount: bhpho.to/2gtuRDT It's been great.
I was surprised at your noise floor test results as I thought the 416 had noticeably less self noise or “hiss” during the quiet bits.
It seems that it put the noise floor at different frequencies. Pretty clean sounding overall.
Did you boom the mic on the football field?
Yes, I was operating sound - mixer and booming the mic overhead.
I’m buying the MKH 416 because of you lol
Enjoy! It's a good investment.
Would this mic be suitable for a shotgun style on camera mic?
Sure, for scratch audio.
@@curtisjudd wow thanks for the reply Curtis! So the s-mic 2s isn't what I should buy? I'm just getting into production of myself for my own videos. I've got a lav and wanted to add a better mic for voiceover in my studio and to mount on my camera for vlog style clips. Can you recommend something for me? 😁 Thanks again
@@Nickporter17 The RODE VideoMic Pro+ and Deity D3 Pro are both worth considering:
RODE VideoMic Pro+: th-cam.com/video/gcMVSzVt-LI/w-d-xo.html
Deity D3 Pro: th-cam.com/video/W9Sde3ey2kc/w-d-xo.html
@@curtisjudd thank you Curtis! I'll use your affiliate link.
I ended up buying this mic using your affiliate link. I'm using a small $30 inline preamp and mounted them together on top of my camera. This set up works great for running around vlog style. Not sure it sounds any better than one of the purpose build on camera mics would sound. I was hoping to use this mic for voiceover too, but I'm pretty disappointed with the quality of the sound. I was expecting it to be significantly better than those one camera shotguns when spoken directly into. Was hoping for a rich sounds with nice proximity effect, etc. It just sounds flat and boring. Even the zoom H1 is more interesting as a voice over mic. I've seen people using mkh-416 for studio mics and wondering if this mic is just significantly worse at that type of audio recording?
How does this compare to the d3 pro?
Similar sound but for different setups. This has an XLR output and assumed to be used on a boom stand or boom pole. D3 Pro is made to be mounted on camera but can be adapted to be boomed.
@@curtisjudd think I'll get either one instead of the samson c02 for indoor dialogue
Couple things... how can the polar pattern of a short shotgun be a con? Isn't that the nature of the tool? Longer gun for a tighter pickup would be the better tool selection.
Next, manufacturers need to STOP printing their logo on the windscreens. I understand they probably think it's a disposable piece and a better shield will be used, but in my business the supplied screen is generally good enough. Yet we cannot show logos on screen. Thus I'd have to buy a replacement right from the start. Picky, yes, but still an added expense.
Just pointing out to people that short shotgun mics are not nearly as focused in terms of polar pattern than most newbies assume.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Curtis, your reviews are always revealing to me. Thanks for all the knowledge you're bringing to us.
I'd like to ask you if you had ever made any review about a good first shotgun mic. I'm in this research for a long time and there are so many relative good options at the market that it makes me confused about which to invest.
If you already have done some review like this, could you share with me the link?
Thank you again.
Best wishes!!
Hi Paulo, there are many good options out there. I do not have a video specifically about a first shotgun microphone, but I do have a few suggestions depending on your budget. The Audio Technica AT875R is a good option for under $200 USD. The DEITY S-Mic 2 is a good option for the $300 range and the RODE NTG5 is great at $500. Hope that helps and best of wishes!
Actually I’ve seen many of your reviews already and the rode’s one are very much expensive to me right now. I’ve even looked for the deltys to, but Theo don’t send to Brazil.
The AT ones there are many models out of stock here to. I have with me one H4n, one DR100 MKII as the Focusrite 24 DSP too.
@@NasnuvenPaulo Hmm. Which shotgun microphones are available there which are in your price range? Maybe we can narrow it down that way?
Thank you for that. You prefer a mail?
To my ears, on Azden and Sennheiser mics your voice sound better than both of Deity ones, though short version sound bit worse, with lower level of low end frequencies.
Thanks for sharing!
Is it better than rode ntg2? :)
In my opinion, yes.
5th January 2021
12:48 a. m.
I hope you are able to get some sleep soon.
Unlucky I just bought a 4053b the day before yesterday，after watching tons of your videos. (Cry..))
You should be delighted. For indoor dialogue, the 4053b is still one of my favorites and it will serve you very well!
Thanks a lot, great review as usual! I'm still wondering with one I should get between the S-Mic2 and the 2S... As an independant filmmaker I'll do mostly voice recording on set (by myself most of the time), but I plan on recording foley as well. Does it make any difference in a controlled environment/studio, or will the S2 have a slight advantage because it's less directionnal?
I would go for the original.
@@curtisjudd Okay, thanks a lot! You're really helping me making the good choice. S-Mic2 and MixPre-3 II it is then!
Good review as usual ...this new piece seems to me like Rode NT5 or Nt55 or 5s ..I wished if you include it in your review ...I think you allready have it ..
Hi Ahmed, no, this microphone is different with and interference tube while the NT5 and NT55 do not. The shotgun is intended more for outdoor use while the NT5 and 55 where mainly intended for recording instruments indoors. If RODE would add a super-cardioid capsule, it’d be a great option for dialogue.
@@curtisjudd oh oh ...you are definitely right...I forgot that these mics is with out cancelling tube
What a handsome man
Where? ;-)