This isn’t even Meshuggah, this is Fredrick and Morgan. The project was called Fredrick thordendals special defects and it’s his side project from the 90s. This video is from 2001 and It’s a medley of songs from the album “sol Niger within”. Totally killer stuff.
@@coolguyman7356 Truss rodd shapes the neck after string tension is applied. It is one factor of a system that requires the sum total to work correctly.
These guys and the rest of Meshuggah basically created a full new branch of music which is widely used nowadays in progressive rock/metal. Some people did PhD thesis on them, no joke.
This has nothing to do with jazz. I wish people would stop describing Meshuggah as "jazz metal." Except in the similarly between Thordendal's guitar solos and Alan Holdsworth (who is fusion, not jazz, but that's a nitpick) there isn't anything jazz-like about what they do. I'm not sure how this got started but it just makes someone sound uneducated when they say it.
I am not kidding, i discovered this video a week ago, and since then, i watched it every day, sometimes even a few times in a row. They are so tight, they are not in the pocket, they ARE THE FUCKING POCKET. I dont know what i love more, the guitar or the drums........
@@jmha2428 Amazing ....I am a rock drummer and love to jam like this with a cool axe player .....however my drumming is no way in his league. Whats the drummers name?
The fucking MONSTER of a jam session Fred and Morgan had to this day. This is the jam that turned me on to Meshuggah to begin with. So musical. So so musical. Literally
This is my all time favourite TH-cam video. I've been coming back to this for over a decade. And I'm not a drummer or a rhythm guitarist, you just can't deny the insanity of what is happening here
What I always wondered about meshuggah is why they never applied the same polyrhythmic principles to their guitar riffs as the drummer, like chord changes on 4 while playing 7s rather than only playing to kicks. I remember being totally amazed by these guys when I was younger, inspired I started writing polymetric stuff that would last 16 measures or something crazy like that, much longer riffs than I was used to, I was blown away because up until that point my perception of rhythm was that it wasn't as cool as solo. But I always believed the guitar lacked the technical rhythm of the drums
check their faces, the little eye to eye contacts followed by a heartfull smile.. like they would be out for a brunch in the nature, enjoying the birdsounds.. the heavier, the more satisfied they are... men always stay little kids, imagin them in the playroom downstairs... when the house is about to collapse they having fun
@BrownBear96 itäs a compilation of riffs from an album called "Sol Niger Within". If you liked this compilation you should definitely listen to the whole album. You will be soo amazed!!
This just come up in my feed, I haven’t seen it again since it was first released.. just epic 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 This isn’t Tomas Haake tho, wasn’t this Fredrick Thordendal’s side project?
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This isn’t even Meshuggah, this is Fredrick and Morgan. The project was called Fredrick thordendals special defects and it’s his side project from the 90s. This video is from 2001 and It’s a medley of songs from the album “sol Niger within”. Totally killer stuff.
This is from Morgan Ågren's TV show "Trum", where he invited different guests and jammed with them.
You're both correct 😜
I appreciate the info 🤙🏻
Dude Morgan's snare drum sounds so fucking insane here. Out the realm of pure metal and more drummer fanatic sounding. Love it
That tape in the high strings is the most djent thing i've ever seen
Yeah makes me wonder why they even fit those strings 🙄
@@hobo1704 ...for the tension. learn how guitars work
@@slavojdyrdek ok champ, ever look at Max from Sepultura.I think it is you that needs to learn fkwit..
@@slavojdyrdek what about the truss rod?
@@coolguyman7356 Truss rodd shapes the neck after string tension is applied. It is one factor of a system that requires the sum total to work correctly.
This was like 1997. That's how far ahead they are of their time.
This video is almost as old as me?
Are you sure its not early 2000s?
it was from 2001 , some random swedish tv show about music
@@Unklechopchop Yes but the album was released in '97. Album is called Sol Niger Within
Destroy Erase Improve was -95
@@Unklechopchop Are you sure? it looks like a catch 33 guitar to me because it has a 33 on the 12th fret
This is currently still the best drum guitar combo performance ever. Have been coming back to it for years!
same
Same here. I'm not even sure why it just suddenly came to mind, lol.
Me too. For sure the yt video that i see the most!!
I think that the guitarist is following the drummer and not the opposite
Watched this sooooo many times
Swedish public tv used to kick ass
Could be the most impressive display of non- verbal communication I've ever witnessed
the drummer is genius, he meets the guitar, while tossing all kinds of shit in it, but never loses the basic method,.....this is insane
Rick Renner Yeah, this is insane :D
exactly, well said, he totally turns the beats upside down without losing a single hit
morgan agren beast as fuck =)
Well he’s not better than “the Haake..”
@@plaga9vive344 "This is my drummer friend Morgan. I use him as a crash."
They're both great with their own styles.
The smile on Fredrik's face. He knows that they are recording one of the greatest jam sessions of all time.
Tape over the highest strings:
You have no purpose here
*Buys 4 string guitar*
*tapes over 3 strings*
*refuses to elaborate any further*
*leaves*
Actually they're "Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects", a solo project of Thordendal.
Captain obvious is back in town!
This is like a role reversal where the guitarist is dictating the time and the drums are going along with them
It's called Meshuggah 😁
Yes
How are they so calm and collected when I’m breaking a sweat just watching this
meth
@@fromthesky1050 Who's on meth? Fred? Drummer Guy? Cameron? You? Shit, me?!
@@DrMurdercock we all on meth
@@fromthesky1050 fuck meth
It's marvelous how he sometimes manages to play some kind of metal-jazz-fusion. Class act!
These guys and the rest of Meshuggah basically created a full new branch of music which is widely used nowadays in progressive rock/metal. Some people did PhD thesis on them, no joke.
They're amazing, but the implied significance of a PhD thesis is naive.
@@Kweesh oh yea lets see your PhD thesis then
@@polpottopg WhAt CoLor Is YoUr BuGAtTi
@Just some weeb got a silveraydo! lmao yea, definitely not thomas
And yet, somehow, they're still one of the most underrated bands of all time.
The jazz of metal.
Ahaha, yes. :)
This has nothing to do with jazz. I wish people would stop describing Meshuggah as "jazz metal." Except in the similarly between Thordendal's guitar solos and Alan Holdsworth (who is fusion, not jazz, but that's a nitpick) there isn't anything jazz-like about what they do. I'm not sure how this got started but it just makes someone sound uneducated when they say it.
@@masterchain3335 k
Djazz you mean
Not really but who cares? ;)
If you want some real jazz metal, check this th-cam.com/video/wh4eifl4lHY/w-d-xo.html
I am not kidding, i discovered this video a week ago, and since then, i watched it every day, sometimes even a few times in a row. They are so tight, they are not in the pocket, they ARE THE FUCKING POCKET. I dont know what i love more, the guitar or the drums........
They are so in sync they have become one !!
@@jmha2428 Amazing ....I am a rock drummer and love to jam like this with a cool axe player .....however my drumming is no way in his league. Whats the drummers name?
@@trevbeats77 Morgan Ågren
GOddamn I love that guitar tone
Those drums also sound nice af
same
Morgan is just straight up IN that pocket on every beat!
The fucking MONSTER of a jam session Fred and Morgan had to this day. This is the jam that turned me on to Meshuggah to begin with. So musical. So so musical. Literally
Fredrik is controlling him with his mad Djent eye beam
@jamesworth463 underrated reply
Behold, the Bob Ross of progressive metal.
Blake Russell "Those Happy little drums beating the devil out of it!"
For fucking real tho
Ehhh but bob ross sucks my friend
@@eduardoandresescudero7075 To each their own, lol.
Prog metal? They kinda just chug and play easy rhythms
two Vikings playing music together
This has a lot of heavy funk. Funkadelic must de proud.
George Clinton & The P - Funk All Stars ain't got shit on these guys!
Some of the most incredible drumming I've ever seen.
The drummer is killing it!!
That guitar has so many strings, that three of them still have the price tag on them...
😂
love the use of syncopation to make it sound like an obscure time signature.
2:58 go morgan, just go
Vildhjarta took so much inspiration from meshuggah and created a whole new genre from that.
Now this,
This is the origin of thall.
This video is a masterpiece.
I swear I listen to this once every month just to put the rythym back into me.
I think even Fredrik's like "wtf?!"
*Fredrik writes his songs with an electronic abacus.*
SNW was such a good album. I wish Fred would do a second one
Morgan the best drummer in the world that nobody knows about
Eye Sees You Agren but it has some of those funny Swedish punctuation marks in there somewhere
-1fps you may be on to something there
In my opinion, Morgan is thee best. I know of others that are just as good but I prefer him.
He would be if he threw that double kick in more often. You can tell Tomas copies his style for sure.
Morgan Ågren! The best yes!
Seriously, freaking awesome. They both looked like they were having a blast playing this.
That is one fuckin ancient groove
Morgan is crazy. The solo section at the end is sick.
No, the kit gave consent.
I always find back to this video every year. Always so fucking badass to listen to each time
me too!
Same here. Probably my favourite video on TH-cam.
This is my all time favourite TH-cam video. I've been coming back to this for over a decade. And I'm not a drummer or a rhythm guitarist, you just can't deny the insanity of what is happening here
guitarist so cool calm collected..drummer complete animal ..love it !!
Just perfect, pure art! Cheers from Bolivia, Southamerica
This is incredible playing-wow ! Fredrik so good -Morgan insane drums holy smokes
WOW, just WOW. I WANT MORE!
Har nu tappat räkningen på hur många gånger jag sett den här. Tycker den är så jä-la bra!
This is still the hardest shit ever
I think the guys from Meshuggah have said it more times than they can count, they play what grooves and don't give a crap about the math involved.
That's what I think as well when I see these videos analysing the time signatures. You get the technical details, but miss the feeling.
Killing it!
The best video on the internet!
What I always wondered about meshuggah is why they never applied the same polyrhythmic principles to their guitar riffs as the drummer, like chord changes on 4 while playing 7s rather than only playing to kicks. I remember being totally amazed by these guys when I was younger, inspired I started writing polymetric stuff that would last 16 measures or something crazy like that, much longer riffs than I was used to, I was blown away because up until that point my perception of rhythm was that it wasn't as cool as solo. But I always believed the guitar lacked the technical rhythm of the drums
Humble brag of the month
It’s all about the sound. Technicality is meaningless if the technique doesn’t produce the correct sound.
There’s a section in bleed that has a descending melody (ish) with an asynchronous rhythm pattern overlaid
check their faces, the little eye to eye contacts followed by a heartfull smile.. like they would be out for a brunch in the nature, enjoying the birdsounds..
the heavier, the more satisfied they are... men always stay little kids, imagin them in the playroom downstairs... when the house is about to collapse they having fun
cool that you knew this cause now I have a new band to listen too. Like there stuff
....This is fuckin insane
Oh ffs it’s 2023 already, I’ve been watching this video for the past 15 years
Sick polyrhythms!!
absolutely savage... never get tired of revisiting it!!
100% check out "fredrik thordendal's special defects" album
.....this is the kind of jazz I like
I love Jazz and Metal.
So therefore this is perfect.
This is rad... Just wish the audio quality was better. Thanks for posting (...this 15 + [or whenever this is read] years ago)!
I swear, Meshuggah came off the same rocket Ship as Boston did!...Mind blown..
love any kind of heavy guitar
Am I the only one who sees where Tesseract got inspiration for one of the riffs in concealing fate
1:47 Concealing Fate - Epiphany
Lol...just one?
the intro is amazing
I love 4:16 how it builds up as it progresses.
:O Oh my God ! This is Very Nice
The smile at 1:05 speaks for itself
I dont know what I'm watching but I'm intrigued...
I didnt know you could trigger a guitarist. AWESOME >=D
Oh my God, the sound though
this moment of history need a remaster!!
I don't think music gets better than this
@DopeDethrone
actually, it almost always is
it's a polyrhythm, but it's all in 4/4
ive been looking for this video for months
welcome back
realized how Fredrik just started smiling at the shit Morgan was throwing at him? ahw man that's what I like about spontanous stuff :3
im not commander shepard, but this is my favorite video on youtube
Effin excellent!
This is the most Swedish thing I’ve ever seen
Insanely cool
Simply amazing
The great Thor grinning as he throws him a curve from hell: ‘follow me on this one kid’
Son prodigios, no hay otra explicación para lo que hacen...
@BrownBear96 itäs a compilation of riffs from an album called "Sol Niger Within". If you liked this compilation you should definitely listen to the whole album. You will be soo amazed!!
fucking insane! ... fucking crazy beautiful music!
omg they look so fucking young! its good to know theyve been grooving for so long!
I bought this album…for more than you’d imagine
I love this shit! 🥁🎸
Anyone who disliked this vid better have disliked it for the sound and video quality
This just come up in my feed, I haven’t seen it again since it was first released.. just epic 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
This isn’t Tomas Haake tho, wasn’t this Fredrick Thordendal’s side project?
Yeah this is Fredricks Sol Niger Within solo album. The drummer is Morgan Agren. Looks up Mats/Morgan band for more with him!
Absolutely savage
Unbeliveable innovation
The phatest djent djam
Fredrik's fucking tapping his foot to this 34e/6x^4 time signature because of course he is.
This is all 4/4
the text at the end says "the exercise for today"
hahah yeah it seems inappropriate without the rest of the program xD but it goes on to him giving some lessons or something afterwards
And here is Joe with the weather.
They show how to make sx with instrument. Amazing
@sicjustinmagot
For sure he is! ;) Think he played with alot different bands/guys like Zappa
If someone ask you what djent is just send them this link, they'll get it.
This isn’t Djent though
@@hugotonnis you’re nuts. This IS LITERALLY the birth of djent and you say it isn’t even what it is. Stfu idiot.
@@MeshuggahDave. Well, damn, you could try informing someone without trying to make yourself seem superior in the process. 🤷♂️
@@nckhed saying shit making yourself sound impotent... smfh
Proof that midscooped sounds just fine.
It usually does until you try to fit a bassist in the mix
Who are the 31 Taylor Swift fans who watched this masterpiece and didn't like it ?
The explosion at 5:22 is just