People who live in first world countries think the criminals in Norway are the same type of criminals in third world countries. That is simply not the case. I live in Brazil and I can tell you, some criminals take pride in being evil, they built an identity with crime, they crave the status of a gang leader, they take pleasure in being a wanted criminal. Their gangs are like family to them and crime is their profession. They are fundamentally different...
They might be culturally different, but we generally tend to function under the same pressures as humans. Unless you can provide some evidence for inherent differences, I highly doubt it. The systematic approach might need tweaking, but they are human beings all the same. I think tough decisions have to be made regarding the unique issues facing the country, but I hope this mostly reactionary policy leads to some actual fundamental change. Do you keep them locked up forever or do you wait and hope they come out of jail as completely changed people? Recidivism is an important determinant.
@@cadenceew7933 norway is rich enough that technically every norwegian is a millionaire. the same solutions cant be used in these kind of polar opposite countries.
i have a family member that was a victim of this horrible things these thugs do on a daily basis, and I wish them the worst, X act like they need second chances
They really compared norway to el salvador and basically said "look how good norway is with dealing with crime", like bro...as if there is anything comparable here, they really think that if they would have built those "nice prisons" it would have changed anything???
@@hablo_papøl Considering that these people did not do it only once but they did it again and again together with other crimes against humanity it directly converts them into a lost case
@@GreatTaiwan Ignorant mindset* just someone who doesn't know shit about the world would compare Norway crime with El Salvador crime. And I'm not even entering on the economics topics.
This man is my hero. xQc actually spat facts about that woman wrongly comparing Norway criminality with El Salvador's. They don't have the same type of criminality ( extremely influencial cartels who have 0 morals ) or government budgets ( go check out the GDP per capita in Norway and see what is it for Bukele's country ). This forensic specialist might have a degree but she's severely lacking in applying the correct context.
That's just media now, completely ignore any context, point at something else and go "look at that! They do this but better!" If you actually have any interest in this topic (History of Cartels, managing them and their internal politics/economics) I'd recommend the book Narco Nomics. Goes into detail of El Salvadore and the lead up to this, how the two largest cartels actually made a truce on violence that immediately made a significant decrease in Homicides, but fell apart after the Government tried to dismantle them during it and re-igniting conflict.
reminder to everyone norways "low" recidivism rate is a myth. that statistic is due to the 20% of criminals that are foreigners and are deported upon the end of their sentence, that study is terrible
also all of these people saying they should help them rehabilitate them dont understand how evil most of them are they will backstab you even if you help them they will laugh at you and fool you for trying to rehabilitate them and will go out to do the exact same shit
@@jesusalc1421 if people saw the types of crimes these people commit with their own two eyes they would probably vomit. imagine the actual el salvadorians who see this shit everyday and are probably directly related to several victims; people they'll never see/hear from again. rehabilitation/being democratic are such priveleged virtues to strive for when your country is on the brink of a fucking civil war from criminals ALONE.
in France the prisons haven't been renovated from since the 70s and they are at 200% full capacity, I'm not joking. BUT right now the prisoners have tv, game consoles, smuggled in phones, uber thrown in from over the walls food (not even joking). Last year there was a scandal because they had a kart and pool party event at a jail. Last month a bunch of high risk prisoners (murder/rape) were led in a visit and picnic at the Versailles palace. Two weeks ago a gang leader got rescued from z prison transfer van and 2 guards were killed, like el chapo.... The guards were in a unarmored delivery style van with just pistols. I just wish we had "terrible" prisons like el Salvador.
It is what it is. If somebody didn't strike down with an iron fist then nothing would change. Sometimes it takes a gruesome change to actually make a difference in the long run.
this is a cycle seen throughout history. nationwide problem? promise to fix it? appeal to the masses? you just made yourself a popular figure by runnning your whole campaign on tackling your country's biggest issue with a charismatic approach. authoritarianism isnt necessarily bad in some cases, but always becomes a problem if gone unchecked and could lead to serious corruption
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At some point, you have to recognize that extreme measures must be taken against extreme problems. If El Salvador took the Norway route and tried extensive rehab, the gangs would overrun the country, again. I definitely don't agree with treating them worse than a factory farm animal, but you have to come down hard. Until you solve the root of the problem (poverty/drugs) the problem itself will never go away.
You know what, X’s take was really good when he talked about at the end of the day the people don’t care about the bad because they physically see the good. Sure there are a lot of things in this video that make the El Salvador prison as bad but a lot of people need to understand that prison is SUPPOSED to be bad. They accurately called out it’s not perfect in arresting innocent people, however are they truly innocent in the sense that they will be future members in the gangs that bring them in? It’s an abhorrent tragedy, the youngsters never stood a chance, but full circle the people are now freely walking the streets at night which is something they avoided for decades, so they’ll sacrifice whatever is happening behind closed walls to enjoy their freedom. Ignorance is bliss
@@JimJamTalks You are talking like thats the case with CECOT, a literal prison made for only gang members, no other crimes get put in there, apart from gang ones... all the other ones get to a normal prison, which are nothing like this
@@JimJamTalksyou have it all wrong. First off, prison is not for rehabilitation. Prison is for separating people who break the law from those in society who don’t. Rehabilitation, especially of violent criminals doesn’t work. Second, prisons in first world countries are nice, and only third world countries have super inhumane ones like in the video XQC watched.
This is so sad, why doesn't anyone care about all those innocent people who tripped and fell on a tattoo needle thousands of times and accidentally got covered in MS-13 ink 🥺 🙏 #notmypresident 😡
honestly fr, i mean can you blame them when they accidentally trip and try to use the knife to break their fall but accidentally stab a woman in the heart?? i mean come on. or when they try to do a kind gesture of giving a bus free gas, and accidentally light it on fire 🥺🥺🥺🥺
They arrest anyone with tattoos, doesn’t matter what the tattoo has on it. They arrested quite a few American tourists for having tattoos not related ms13 or anything of the sort. But because they were rich white American tourists of course they got to be released. That is the only group that deserves to be treated fairly under the law
It's incredible how easily you people can ignore what it takes to make a child grow into a criminal. Let alone how easy it is to save a child from that fate.
Prisons like Norway's one might work in Europe, people's more educated there and even criminals aren't that bad, the worst criminal there is an average criminal from here. Here in South America criminals are blatantly evil, we don't have the resources from Norway and even if we did it just wouldn't work. Bukele did good short term atleast.
Norway wasn’t colonized either, lot of central/South American countries were exploited in the past making it a complete different scenario. Them comparing it is just dumb
@@kidkodex7696 the point wasn't that you can do the same in south america, it's about human rights. they can have a prison that serves the same purpose without keeping lights on 24/7 and dehumanizing the prison population
@@redstandard66 thats why i said that they shouldn't give up prisons of that kind totally, the execution is just wrong. you can have confinement just don't go to either extreme
@@vkskms His strategy was to make it inhuman so criminals think twice before committing a crime. Short Term I agree, but I just hope he doesn't do that long term, only for as long it's needed.
At that point, the d-penalty is not only more economical, but somehow more ethical. Not saying most of them don't deserve it, but they're treated worse than cattle.
I do agree with extreme problems requiring extreme solutions but I would still prioritize avoiding jailing innocent people. You can still increase police activity and surveillance, make more prisons etc. without basically jailing innocent people on purpose as a side product.
I can't imagine how Norway had changed with a few thousand 'boat hoppers' as a Turk who live in Turkey with near 10m 'asylum seekers' that won't even learn Turkish. With a government that does keep them dearer than their own citizens. I've dealed with a few of these asylum seekers personally so that they would back out, near of my sister. I've heard most of them claiming Ottoman empire as their own and claiming some parts of Turkey should be given to Syria etc. So, I get it to a point but for you guys we are the same people, I guess... NGL If US and Russia didn't existed world would be a better place
“The worst gangs in the world won’t be nice when you let them out” -Professor drooling on themselves 😂 Did no one tell her the entire point is most of them are not getting let out?
Like a lot of solutions in third world countries, an extremist reaction done out of desperation with a lot of good and a lot of collateral damage. Both sides are correct about the existence of the good or bad effects, but both sides exaggerate its good or bad and downplay the opposite.
Well, would you really call a solution extremist when is an extremist problem in the first place? El Salvador was on the top countries with more kills and rpes, way more than countries that are in war. Half of the country escaped the violence, they literally made life impossible for millions of people. I get what you said tho, and I agree. But I think this is a special case. Even more when you see that now El Salvador is the second most safety countries in the Americas, more safe than USA right now.
@@Neyenn if the statistics about the number of arrested innocents are correct or even close enough, you might be safe from crime but with a random chance of being imprisoned by your government for nothing
@@Neyennthe argument here is more of principle what standard does thus set in el Salvador once the dictator sets he is the rule of law I'm fine with iron fist policies but it should be paired with de integration of those policies once goals have been reached or a society will degrade into a normalization of brutality and I don't trust human nature and the goverment having that much power
@@Neyenn I think we only disagree with how the word "extremist" is perceived. I don't think extremism is bad, just something you should only refer to in extreme situations. El Salvador definitely needed an extreme reaction. Liberal or Conservative moderacy does not help countries like this out of their situations.
Has a lot to say when they bring up Norway but quite when a police officer says we were arresting people at random from poor areas to fill our daily quota.
well duh it didnt fit his delulu take lol doesnt matter though because 95% of his chattes worship him like a god. i cant believe there was no mention of what these people will do afte spending 30 years locked up because of a quota lol. im sure xqc and his followers believe they'll just fall in line. crazy how ignorant this guy is sometimes
alot of people, including X, like to bloat about something they know nothing about, maybe for approval or maybe they are simply a victim of the Dunning Kruger effect, who knows
This is why you should just mute and close chat whenever anything political happens on stream. 90% of juicers are straight up fascists and they’re not even hiding it anymore.
@@Nanthuian It's not civil rights, its human rights violations. Many of the "guilty" are teenagers born into the life and are almost victims in their own right.
I am from Sweden can say its a bit of a culture different our system would not work on El Salvador. Its has stopped working for us now because we have a bunch of integration, a bunch of African and middle east people just kill and our system is crumbeling. 😂😂
imported an uneducated third world population definitely wouldn't commit crimes for sure definitely unheard of lol not say all are criminals but it's a given whenever u bring in third world immigrants it's just a statistical inevitability
Before he showed his twitter status with "coolest dictator" i thought to myself "He is a good democratic dictator" and they really needed that. He is a good guy who can change things
I bet El Salvador wishes they had the kind of criminals they that Norway has... The differences in culture and living conditions as well as the sheer scale of violent offenders is impossible to compare. If El Salvador had the money for these rehabilitation programs for every single criminal like Norway, there wouldn't be so many violent criminals in the first place because everyone would be living happy lives in well-off families instead of hustling on the streets as orphans.
The reason why the prison system in norway works is because people are more human there. A prison like that in El Salvador wouldn’t change a damn thing
Rare good xqc take. It's very easy to look at this through a first world lense, and completely condemn it. But if you were in the shoes of those people, with gang violence and murder taking place everyday, you might think differently.
even if all of Mexico had Norway like prisons, people would still commit crime. because simple matter of the fact is the fact since cartels make billions yearly and the possibility of notoriety, that will always drive people to that lifestyle.
I love how X and the chat shit on the women but she’s right. That 15 year old will get out at the age of 30. With no actual help what do u think is going to happen…
In a well working society with a non-corrupt political system you don't really feel the urge to go to jail since you have way better opportunities outside of jail
As a norwegian, not all norwegian prisons are like the ones you see on the internet. Oslo has a notorious shit rehab insitution/prison for those addicted to drugs.
Salvadorean here, if you are a thieve or u killer without being a gang member, you are not going to the CECOT, your destiny is prison "mariona" where u can learn art, bakery, carpentry...., or go outside to do community work, but nobody talking about this because Human rights organizations sucks
Xqc rarely says something that make sense but he was spittin in the norway agrument, aint no way they comparing a goofball who stole candy from a kid to a cartel member.
*Context: Nayib Bukele (the new president of El salvador, the man who built this jail and made El salvador way more safe) decided that only this specific jail will charge the prisoners (gangbangers/terrorists) for each and every service or resource they use, because this jail (CECOT) only has gangbangers (terrorists) inside. That's what i call justice*
@@KantiKanenot only that but the president has gone on record to say he can ‘arrest anyone he wants’ since there is no due process. Surely a government leader wouldn’t abuse this power clueless. To really solve crime we should just put 100% of people in jail so nobody is free on the street to commit crimes easy
I totally agree with x. You can’t compare Norway with El Salvador. I live in Germany we have also a prison which purpose is to rehabilitate and it worked kind of but now with such high rise in crime and immigration it doesn’t work anymore. People live this criminal lifestyle more and rehabilitation don’t work especially with more gang crime where if you get out your going straight to regular crime business again.
The crazy thing is the Juan situation how can they imprison a 15 year old and put him in a adult prison and literally the most secure prison in the world at that too thats just fked up there should be an 18 year age limit shouldve just put him in juveline
right, but we can't look at the problem from only one perspective (in this case BNP/wealth). Countries like UAE and Qatar are wealthier than Norway but remain in a much worse state than Norway.
She wasn't saying they should do what Norway is doing. She said that there philosophy of just sticking people in cages will not fix the issue, b/c rehabilitation is needed. That is not wrong whatsoever. You can't copy Norway with these areas of the world b/c they have different issues that Norway does. But you do still need to try to rehabilitate somehow or you mine as well just sentence them all to life in prison anyway.
9:02 THANK YOU, everyone says oh you can’t do this, this is wrong. Our country fell apart for decades and no one paid mind to tho tiny little country because most didn’t see any benefit from it. Now everyone has something to say. When children were getting guns handed to them which btw sometimes got to the gangs by some type of government help… no one said oh okay we can’t let that happen. Now all the human rights activist wanna point fingers. I didn’t see them sticking their nose in when kids didn’t have the right to be kids. 🖕🏼
I think itll come out that not even close to 33% of the inmates are innocent. Its like sure maybe some guy didnt get caught burrying a body, but hes covered head to toe in gang tats and has a giant 88 on his back😂 clearly not a helpful productive guy
@@charlesyoung3444 idk I think if a country that had a culture of tattoos in grained in there heritage starts arresting people based on how they look it’s a bit backwards. Sure some tattoos will have gang affiliation but there is also such thing as being an ex member etc.
The discussion with norway prisons and the cartel is so fucking brainrot. People can talk about how much nicer it is until its time for thousands of prisoners and a sociatal change to occur. What's happening in salvador is a response and not a provocation for more violence. Many of these people didn't get raised in a proper household with a proper community. So you have to TEACH them what happens when you don't act civil. The next step is rehabilitation but you have to start with the punishment. People need to be stopped or it will send the message its okay to keep doing it.
People who live in first world countries think the criminals in Norway are the same type of criminals in third world countries. That is simply not the case. I live in Brazil and I can tell you, some criminals take pride in being evil, they built an identity with crime, they crave the status of a gang leader, they take pleasure in being a wanted criminal. Their gangs are like family to them and crime is their profession. They are fundamentally different...
They might be culturally different, but we generally tend to function under the same pressures as humans. Unless you can provide some evidence for inherent differences, I highly doubt it. The systematic approach might need tweaking, but they are human beings all the same. I think tough decisions have to be made regarding the unique issues facing the country, but I hope this mostly reactionary policy leads to some actual fundamental change.
Do you keep them locked up forever or do you wait and hope they come out of jail as completely changed people? Recidivism is an important determinant.
@@cadenceew7933 norway is rich enough that technically every norwegian is a millionaire. the same solutions cant be used in these kind of polar opposite countries.
@@313Leøn i swear they dont get it, if in these countries even working people can barely survive why would they want to change
i have a family member that was a victim of this horrible things these thugs do on a daily basis, and I wish them the worst, X act like they need second chances
How the fuck would you know you dont live in europe with the "other" types of criminals
Well Norway isn’t really a great example, their worst criminals crime was stealing a balloon on free balloon day.
Yeah also murderers and rapists
how could they... the horror...
@@asiangin Don't get me started on USA xdd
actually the worst offender killed 77 people, mostly kids
Meanwhile Breivik bombing the capital and massacring 77 children: "Am I a joke to you?“
They really compared norway to el salvador and basically said "look how good norway is with dealing with crime", like bro...as if there is anything comparable here, they really think that if they would have built those "nice prisons" it would have changed anything???
also i don't think it's ethically okay to rehabilitate murderers
Avg liberal mindset
@@grenadier4702 making people who have done bad things not do them again is ethically wrong?
@@hablo_papøl Considering that these people did not do it only once but they did it again and again together with other crimes against humanity it directly converts them into a lost case
@@GreatTaiwan Ignorant mindset* just someone who doesn't know shit about the world would compare Norway crime with El Salvador crime. And I'm not even entering on the economics topics.
This man is my hero. xQc actually spat facts about that woman wrongly comparing Norway criminality with El Salvador's. They don't have the same type of criminality ( extremely influencial cartels who have 0 morals ) or government budgets ( go check out the GDP per capita in Norway and see what is it for Bukele's country ). This forensic specialist might have a degree but she's severely lacking in applying the correct context.
That's just media now, completely ignore any context, point at something else and go "look at that! They do this but better!"
If you actually have any interest in this topic (History of Cartels, managing them and their internal politics/economics) I'd recommend the book Narco Nomics. Goes into detail of El Salvadore and the lead up to this, how the two largest cartels actually made a truce on violence that immediately made a significant decrease in Homicides, but fell apart after the Government tried to dismantle them during it and re-igniting conflict.
reminder to everyone norways "low" recidivism rate is a myth. that statistic is due to the 20% of criminals that are foreigners and are deported upon the end of their sentence, that study is terrible
also all of these people saying they should help them rehabilitate them dont understand how evil most of them are they will backstab you even if you help them they will laugh at you and fool you for trying to rehabilitate them and will go out to do the exact same shit
@@jesusalc1421 if people saw the types of crimes these people commit with their own two eyes they would probably vomit. imagine the actual el salvadorians who see this shit everyday and are probably directly related to several victims; people they'll never see/hear from again. rehabilitation/being democratic are such priveleged virtues to strive for when your country is on the brink of a fucking civil war from criminals ALONE.
And what’s your degree in, bozo?
in France the prisons haven't been renovated from since the 70s and they are at 200% full capacity, I'm not joking. BUT right now the prisoners have tv, game consoles, smuggled in phones, uber thrown in from over the walls food (not even joking). Last year there was a scandal because they had a kart and pool party event at a jail. Last month a bunch of high risk prisoners (murder/rape) were led in a visit and picnic at the Versailles palace. Two weeks ago a gang leader got rescued from z prison transfer van and 2 guards were killed, like el chapo.... The guards were in a unarmored delivery style van with just pistols. I just wish we had "terrible" prisons like el Salvador.
The Uber one LMAOOOO no f*king way I gotta factcheck this
Uneducated take
France gotta lock in bro it's only gonna get worse from here
@@creativeaccountname9796 Ironic coming from you lmao
@@creativeaccountname9796 first world extremely clueless leftist take
It is what it is. If somebody didn't strike down with an iron fist then nothing would change. Sometimes it takes a gruesome change to actually make a difference in the long run.
yeah for fast effects that is
You not that smart am I right?
but like 900 people at once? it's too much
You know, you can be "tough on crime" without dismantling democracy, attacking political opponents and journalists..
this is a cycle seen throughout history. nationwide problem? promise to fix it? appeal to the masses? you just made yourself a popular figure by runnning your whole campaign on tackling your country's biggest issue with a charismatic approach. authoritarianism isnt necessarily bad in some cases, but always becomes a problem if gone unchecked and could lead to serious corruption
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thank you for guiding us with your wisdom
you all can still turn to Christ if you have not God bless
Shape of a half of a mclaren
You left out the best part.. its a communication method too complex for mankind to decipher
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This content is transformative, because he cuts out the plugged in ads.
Hasan be like: “just let them out broo”
Somehow i read it in his voice🤣🤣
And his viewers be like: *"OMG this man is a genius!“*
I’m from El Salvador living in the US and everyone were fucking tired of the gangs, Bukele did a really good job !
When you decide to clean up the streets, it aint always gonna be pretty.
At some point, you have to recognize that extreme measures must be taken against extreme problems. If El Salvador took the Norway route and tried extensive rehab, the gangs would overrun the country, again. I definitely don't agree with treating them worse than a factory farm animal, but you have to come down hard. Until you solve the root of the problem (poverty/drugs) the problem itself will never go away.
Yeah, I don't even agree with treating factory farm animals the way they're often treated.
yes true but having them do nothing all day and have nothing to live for will 99% get them back into crime.
@@Nadeko that's why i said you have to solve the root of the problem. aka poverty/drugs.
They're like comparing Gotham city to Metropolis. People are completely different and same system won't work
That’s lightwork for Michael Schofield 🐐
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"im not the one stuck in a cage" 🥶
"You've seen the blueprints..."
bro got NTR'd by the villain 💀💀
I actually miss when chat were actively discussing the video with X now it’s : yap, defend it, lul, ???????? .
Zoomer chat cant handle any serious discussions after consuming terabytes of brainrot
You know what, X’s take was really good when he talked about at the end of the day the people don’t care about the bad because they physically see the good. Sure there are a lot of things in this video that make the El Salvador prison as bad but a lot of people need to understand that prison is SUPPOSED to be bad. They accurately called out it’s not perfect in arresting innocent people, however are they truly innocent in the sense that they will be future members in the gangs that bring them in? It’s an abhorrent tragedy, the youngsters never stood a chance, but full circle the people are now freely walking the streets at night which is something they avoided for decades, so they’ll sacrifice whatever is happening behind closed walls to enjoy their freedom. Ignorance is bliss
@@JimJamTalks You are talking like thats the case with CECOT, a literal prison made for only gang members, no other crimes get put in there, apart from gang ones... all the other ones get to a normal prison, which are nothing like this
@@uremi. except all the innocent people
@@JimJamTalksyou have it all wrong. First off, prison is not for rehabilitation. Prison is for separating people who break the law from those in society who don’t. Rehabilitation, especially of violent criminals doesn’t work. Second, prisons in first world countries are nice, and only third world countries have super inhumane ones like in the video XQC watched.
@@Ratbanewdym rehabilitation doesnt work? top 10 lies
@@JimJamTalks wow u sure know about how to change a country, how about you do something and go to El Salvador and teach them instead of typing here
This is so sad, why doesn't anyone care about all those innocent people who tripped and fell on a tattoo needle thousands of times and accidentally got covered in MS-13 ink 🥺 🙏
#notmypresident 😡
honestly fr, i mean can you blame them when they accidentally trip and try to use the knife to break their fall but accidentally stab a woman in the heart?? i mean come on. or when they try to do a kind gesture of giving a bus free gas, and accidentally light it on fire 🥺🥺🥺🥺
tattoos are crimes??? damn news to me
They arrest anyone with tattoos, doesn’t matter what the tattoo has on it.
They arrested quite a few American tourists for having tattoos not related ms13 or anything of the sort.
But because they were rich white American tourists of course they got to be released.
That is the only group that deserves to be treated fairly under the law
@@KantiKane Gang related tattoos will make you look bad wdym
It's incredible how easily you people can ignore what it takes to make a child grow into a criminal. Let alone how easy it is to save a child from that fate.
Prisons like Norway's one might work in Europe, people's more educated there and even criminals aren't that bad, the worst criminal there is an average criminal from here.
Here in South America criminals are blatantly evil, we don't have the resources from Norway and even if we did it just wouldn't work.
Bukele did good short term atleast.
Norway wasn’t colonized either, lot of central/South American countries were exploited in the past making it a complete different scenario. Them comparing it is just dumb
@@kidkodex7696 the point wasn't that you can do the same in south america, it's about human rights. they can have a prison that serves the same purpose without keeping lights on 24/7 and dehumanizing the prison population
@@vkskmswhat about the human right to live? there was an average of 18 murders per day in 2015.
@@redstandard66 thats why i said that they shouldn't give up prisons of that kind totally, the execution is just wrong. you can have confinement just don't go to either extreme
@@vkskms His strategy was to make it inhuman so criminals think twice before committing a crime.
Short Term I agree, but I just hope he doesn't do that long term, only for as long it's needed.
At that point, the d-penalty is not only more economical, but somehow more ethical. Not saying most of them don't deserve it, but they're treated worse than cattle.
Looks bad for stats. Turn news articles from mass imprisonment to mass executions. Bad political move
Isn’t that the whole point?😂 treating evil people as bad as possible. White people think prison is like a paid camping trip
good.
How were the people they raped and murdered treated?
@@Fotumain13 Yea but it takes a lot of resources to keep them imprisoned.
First time when xQc has good takes
I do agree with extreme problems requiring extreme solutions but I would still prioritize avoiding jailing innocent people. You can still increase police activity and surveillance, make more prisons etc. without basically jailing innocent people on purpose as a side product.
Norway has also changed. They have been invaded by boat hoppers.
mest parten av kriminelle greine som skjer her er av barn
So funny like half of Europe has became quite the mess because of those twats
I can't imagine how Norway had changed with a few thousand 'boat hoppers' as a Turk who live in Turkey with near 10m 'asylum seekers' that won't even learn Turkish. With a government that does keep them dearer than their own citizens. I've dealed with a few of these asylum seekers personally so that they would back out, near of my sister. I've heard most of them claiming Ottoman empire as their own and claiming some parts of Turkey should be given to Syria etc. So, I get it to a point but for you guys we are the same people, I guess... NGL If US and Russia didn't existed world would be a better place
@@ensdogukan "NGL If US and Russia didn't existed world would be a better place" that's not cool
@@ensdogukanturks suck
Sometimes you gotta do some bad stuff for good things to happen and this is a perfect example
“The worst gangs in the world won’t be nice when you let them out” -Professor drooling on themselves 😂 Did no one tell her the entire point is most of them are not getting let out?
Like a lot of solutions in third world countries, an extremist reaction done out of desperation with a lot of good and a lot of collateral damage. Both sides are correct about the existence of the good or bad effects, but both sides exaggerate its good or bad and downplay the opposite.
Well, would you really call a solution extremist when is an extremist problem in the first place? El Salvador was on the top countries with more kills and rpes, way more than countries that are in war. Half of the country escaped the violence, they literally made life impossible for millions of people. I get what you said tho, and I agree. But I think this is a special case. Even more when you see that now El Salvador is the second most safety countries in the Americas, more safe than USA right now.
@@Neyenn if the statistics about the number of arrested innocents are correct or even close enough, you might be safe from crime but with a random chance of being imprisoned by your government for nothing
@@Neyennthe argument here is more of principle what standard does thus set in el Salvador once the dictator sets he is the rule of law I'm fine with iron fist policies but it should be paired with de integration of those policies once goals have been reached or a society will degrade into a normalization of brutality and I don't trust human nature and the goverment having that much power
@@Neyenn I think we only disagree with how the word "extremist" is perceived. I don't think extremism is bad, just something you should only refer to in extreme situations. El Salvador definitely needed an extreme reaction. Liberal or Conservative moderacy does not help countries like this out of their situations.
Has a lot to say when they bring up Norway but quite when a police officer says we were arresting people at random from poor areas to fill our daily quota.
well duh it didnt fit his delulu take lol doesnt matter though because 95% of his chattes worship him like a god. i cant believe there was no mention of what these people will do afte spending 30 years locked up because of a quota lol. im sure xqc and his followers believe they'll just fall in line. crazy how ignorant this guy is sometimes
alot of people, including X, like to bloat about something they know nothing about, maybe for approval or maybe they are simply a victim of the Dunning Kruger effect, who knows
This is why you should just mute and close chat whenever anything political happens on stream. 90% of juicers are straight up fascists and they’re not even hiding it anymore.
Waiting for them to say anything about that too lol
I would take a dictator over gangs in my backyard
I like how he knew it at 5:30 that it was an ad from listening to it for a second 😆
the prisons aside, the main issue is mass sentencing. That's the real shady shit.
yeah but when family members randomly die everyday, they were forced to pause civil rights to maintain order and control
@@Nanthuian It's not civil rights, its human rights violations. Many of the "guilty" are teenagers born into the life and are almost victims in their own right.
@@several. you cant win a war with rules against people who dont give a fuck about your rules
I am from Sweden can say its a bit of a culture different our system would not work on El Salvador. Its has stopped working for us now because we have a bunch of integration, a bunch of African and middle east people just kill and our system is crumbeling. 😂😂
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blame the non europeans classic
@@313Leøn It's a classic because it's true
@@313Leøn who would you blame?
imported an uneducated third world population definitely wouldn't commit crimes for sure definitely unheard of lol not say all are criminals but it's a given whenever u bring in third world immigrants it's just a statistical inevitability
Before he showed his twitter status with "coolest dictator" i thought to myself "He is a good democratic dictator" and they really needed that. He is a good guy who can change things
I bet El Salvador wishes they had the kind of criminals they that Norway has... The differences in culture and living conditions as well as the sheer scale of violent offenders is impossible to compare.
If El Salvador had the money for these rehabilitation programs for every single criminal like Norway, there wouldn't be so many violent criminals in the first place because everyone would be living happy lives in well-off families instead of hustling on the streets as orphans.
juan is a hitman at age of 15.
he should be happy he didn't get death penalty
the criminal in Norway probably stole some candy bar while the guys at el salvador......you know what
2:48 “adin viewers” couldn’t be more true
15:11 he just said poor people join gangs, then oh no! the poor people are getting arrested! yeah good lmao
The reason why the prison system in norway works is because people are more human there. A prison like that in El Salvador wouldn’t change a damn thing
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Rare good xqc take. It's very easy to look at this through a first world lense, and completely condemn it. But if you were in the shoes of those people, with gang violence and murder taking place everyday, you might think differently.
Life Goal: *Get Arrested in Norway with Infinite Sentence so i can play xbox all day*
Looks like a mount for a CPU fan
a nice one 👌🏻
That guy in the video gotta learn how to roll his R's, damn. What's MAGHAS
6:41 what kind of mr beast challange is that
Th man quoted from The guardian smh and the woman psychologist is exactly why crimes escalates, her points contribute to these issues.
lol the professor had a point, this is gonna blow up eventually in el salvador.
Finally a good video
A Person who has never lived in El Salvador is discussing their human rights. lol!
even if all of Mexico had Norway like prisons, people would still commit crime. because simple matter of the fact is the fact since cartels make billions yearly and the possibility of notoriety, that will always drive people to that lifestyle.
I love how X and the chat shit on the women but she’s right. That 15 year old will get out at the age of 30. With no actual help what do u think is going to happen…
Jesus I want to go to jail in Norway 😂😂 that apartment looked clean af bro
In a well working society with a non-corrupt political system you don't really feel the urge to go to jail since you have way better opportunities outside of jail
@@EoLSkorvananders B -77 kids kek
El Salvador are way too broke to replicate the Norwegian prison system.. come on now 😂
el salvador's president is straight up light yagami bro
he’s made el salvador 1000x safer, he’s needed in london
its always funny seeing X talk so confidently about these things when I im reminded that he has spent 90% of his existence indoors
As a norwegian, not all norwegian prisons are like the ones you see on the internet. Oslo has a notorious shit rehab insitution/prison for those addicted to drugs.
11:40 Felix, you gotta understand that's what she's trying to figure out, to find intervention for those population
bro putting all of those high violent criminals in a "pretty house" with no armed guards Won't work
6:32 SQUID GAMES REFERENCE BAAAAAAAAAT
EU gonna need their own Bukeles soon
The reality is that El Salvador is now one of the safer countries in South America. The president has done a remarkable job
Norway isn't just not comparable because of the nations funds, it's not comparable because free life in El Salvador isn't free life in Norway.
Salvadorean here, if you are a thieve or u killer without being a gang member, you are not going to the CECOT, your destiny is prison "mariona" where u can learn art, bakery, carpentry...., or go outside to do community work, but nobody talking about this because Human rights organizations sucks
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@@charlesyoung3444 there Is a video about it, but Is In spanish:
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Xqc rarely says something that make sense but he was spittin in the norway agrument, aint no way they comparing a goofball who stole candy from a kid to a cartel member.
*Context: Nayib Bukele (the new president of El salvador, the man who built this jail and made El salvador way more safe) decided that only this specific jail will charge the prisoners (gangbangers/terrorists) for each and every service or resource they use, because this jail (CECOT) only has gangbangers (terrorists) inside. That's what i call justice*
okay but they also shared a statistic that said 1/3 of the prisoners there are most likely innocent....
@@KantiKanenot only that but the president has gone on record to say he can ‘arrest anyone he wants’ since there is no due process.
Surely a government leader wouldn’t abuse this power clueless.
To really solve crime we should just put 100% of people in jail so nobody is free on the street to commit crimes easy
@@KantiKane its not a statistic, its an assumption, they have zero proof
@@ultratronger they straight up interviewed some of the police saying that they arrested innocents just to fill quoata
@@lucifertempest9566 prove that is the case then
Fern and hoog are amazing channels
may these criminals never see the sun again
Prison isn't for Rehabilitation it's justice for the victims of the crime.
who/what will bring justice for those who have been wrongfully imprisoned, since they too are victims?
No its so the people dont go out and do more crime are you stupid?
@@EoLSkorvan im sorry to tell you but you will never find a perfect solution in this world
yo what was the he was playing in the intro?
they took out the Norway part because of the backlash 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
W xqc take, I'm from South America.
xqCHILE aware 😟
this chat watches too much dexter
I do believe an Englishman invented the Panopticon but a Frenchman invented the Oubliette. Which is worse? 😅
I totally agree with x. You can’t compare Norway with El Salvador. I live in Germany we have also a prison which purpose is to rehabilitate and it worked kind of but now with such high rise in crime and immigration it doesn’t work anymore. People live this criminal lifestyle more and rehabilitation don’t work especially with more gang crime where if you get out your going straight to regular crime business again.
The crazy thing is the Juan situation how can they imprison a 15 year old and put him in a adult prison and literally the most secure prison in the world at that too thats just fked up there should be an 18 year age limit shouldve just put him in juveline
Norway has similar population to el savador but 20x the cash
right, but we can't look at the problem from only one perspective (in this case BNP/wealth). Countries like UAE and Qatar are wealthier than Norway but remain in a much worse state than Norway.
Send the asteroid
Imagine being one of the innocent ppl locked in a cage with those dudes GG
Fun fact: every single person in cecot has a gang tattoo
She wasn't saying they should do what Norway is doing. She said that there philosophy of just sticking people in cages will not fix the issue, b/c rehabilitation is needed. That is not wrong whatsoever. You can't copy Norway with these areas of the world b/c they have different issues that Norway does. But you do still need to try to rehabilitate somehow or you mine as well just sentence them all to life in prison anyway.
What Did My Precious Man xQc Do To Deserve Being Inside The World‘s Toughest Prison? Really Hope He's Ok!
its my day today
ITS YOUR DAY!
She graduated from swinburne, give her some slack
bots are faster than the juicers
Why is chat saying Biden's America when republican states are more known for having brutal prison conditions?
why is anyone talking about America when the video is about El Salvador? they're obsessed
The gangs was born on the USA, and now they critizing how El Salvador is solving the problem
So if you are homeless in Norway it is beneficial to steal worse case they give you a comfortable place to live and eat
Guarantee this dude is just a gangster himself lol got rid of his ops and instead of controlling a block he controls the whole country
Yea bro 100% 😹
Michael Scofield will find a way to escape
Bro was using Photoshop in prison 💀💀💀
my family's from el salvador
For someone defending all these thugs I dare you to go live there for a month and let's see if you gonna change your mind 😂
9:02 THANK YOU, everyone says oh you can’t do this, this is wrong. Our country fell apart for decades and no one paid mind to tho tiny little country because most didn’t see any benefit from it. Now everyone has something to say. When children were getting guns handed to them which btw sometimes got to the gangs by some type of government help… no one said oh okay we can’t let that happen. Now all the human rights activist wanna point fingers. I didn’t see them sticking their nose in when kids didn’t have the right to be kids. 🖕🏼
what you mean he cant just put any man with a tattoo in jail??
Give it time the criminals will retake this place.
the chatters that say literallly anything is proaganda are so funny lol
why are people saying 'well just don't do crime' when he said up to 1 in 3 prisoners are said to be innocent
I think itll come out that not even close to 33% of the inmates are innocent. Its like sure maybe some guy didnt get caught burrying a body, but hes covered head to toe in gang tats and has a giant 88 on his back😂 clearly not a helpful productive guy
@@charlesyoung3444 idk I think if a country that had a culture of tattoos in grained in there heritage starts arresting people based on how they look it’s a bit backwards. Sure some tattoos will have gang affiliation but there is also such thing as being an ex member etc.
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Well, if you can't do the time dont do the crime
The discussion with norway prisons and the cartel is so fucking brainrot. People can talk about how much nicer it is until its time for thousands of prisoners and a sociatal change to occur. What's happening in salvador is a response and not a provocation for more violence. Many of these people didn't get raised in a proper household with a proper community. So you have to TEACH them what happens when you don't act civil.
The next step is rehabilitation but you have to start with the punishment. People need to be stopped or it will send the message its okay to keep doing it.
i like a lot of ferns videos but comparing el salvador’s situation to norways is genuinely ridiculous
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