So, there's a Wizards Reboot...
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- Wizards of Waverly Place has received its inevitable revival, and I've returned to inform you of which opinions you are and aren't allowed to have!
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0:00 The Video
11:16 the Wizards creator Todd J Greenwald did make a statement on his Instagram story, the day before David and Selena announced the reboot. It said that he and the other original writers are NOT involved with this. I forgot what else he said, but he didn’t see too happy about this. (I completely get why, Wizards had such a specific humor and vibe that I don’t think the Raven’s Home writers will get right).
and ooo a cameo from me🤭
It ain't a reboot, it's a revival.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 technically it’s a spin-off, but reboot is the typical term people use and recognize, so I just say it too now
@@growingupwithdisney It's not a spinoff either and yeah I get people use that word and that's why people need to use the correct term.
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 it is a spin-off, a spin-off is when they create a whole new show with some characters we are familiar, but under a new name and premise. A revival would be what they did with iCarly, it has the same name and premise, they’re just older.
@@growingupwithdisney Nope, It's pick up with the characters years later. Sequel.
Idk Justin eventually becoming disenchanted by all the wizard stuff after essentially being thrust into the role of CEO of the Wizarding World at such a young age and isolated from his family seems pretty in character for him.
It sounds interesting but its def dependent on the execution. Alex is the most popular character from the original so making it abt Justin is a risk plus the creators not coming back isn't great
It seems like there was a specific INCIDENT that causes him to become disenfranchised
There’s always the episode of how Alex made a copy of Justin, sent him off to college, only to find out he dropped off shortly after starting.
Plot twist, it’s actually the clone recreated (I know it was originally combined into him) that caused the incident/who we are actually following.
Maybe the board of education/ wizard ing work equivalent Said “yeah like we’re gonna let the new headmaster be this kid who literally dropped out of our school” booted him and the wizard government took his powers.
i think bridgette mendler coming out of acting hiatus for this would be the bestest thing to happen for this series.
I miss her. I was jamming to “Hurricane” not too long ago.
I doubt it bc I heard she just got her phD!
@@heatherofhyrule9050actually it’s not totally out there she said she had something planned for fans and it’s not music!!
It would be great, but I’m not sure she has a place in the show, outside of one little cameo as fan service it is kinda messy for a Disney show to have a married man’s ex come back and be a homewrecker or something lol
@@Unfazed1888READY OR NOT STILL SLAPS TIL THIS DAYYY
I think it’d be cool if this continuation followed up Stevie storyline cause she was 100% right. There no reason only one member of the family should keep their powers.
It would be cool to see Hayley Kiyoko again even if she died.
@@Urmumlel7025 wah?
@@Alex_Barbosa They mean Stevie died
Yes bring back Hayley Kiyoko! Would also be cool if Alex had a gay storyline, but prob not
A societal reform would be great world evolution
I feel like it's very very funny that literally exactly half of the male cast of this show has adult content online
Wait which actors... asking for research purposes ofc
The actors who played Zeke and Max I'm pretty sure.@@brainfreeze7549
@@brainfreeze7549ik the guy who plays zeke has one
I think it's referencing Zeke having an only fans and Jerry Russo nudes having leaked way back when
Which ones so I can avoid them of course
I feel like Justin would quickly lose interest in magic if Alex weren't around him all the time though.
That an interesting take as Alex inspired him to work hard and now since their journey finished what the point.
Justin rarely used magic in normal every day life, while Alex’s first thought was always ‘what can magic do to make this easier’
Maybe Alex caused the incident
@@MissmagazineburaThat’s what I’m thinking too. Alex and possibly even Max(Offscreen) and maybe even some other wizards caused something bad to happen and now Alex wants to fix it with Justin’s help cuz he’s the one most affected negatively and it’s her fault
But he was so dedicated to wiz tech 🥺 sorry but the show without Alex I don’t even know if it’s worth watching, I agree a reboot isn’t needed the ending was fine they need to bring back some other characters to back it work at least bring back max or something.
Bro the Keyan Carlile cameo in the Wizards Revival is gonna be CRAZYYYY.
Revival not reboot
@@giovannigiovanni.7220 Ah, I was going off of the Title of the video.
I want them to continuously refer to Dan benson’s character as an accountant and it’s played for laughs all of season one and eventually have him show up in season two and the running gag is everyone knows what he does but no one wants to say it in front of the kids but that may be too much for Disney.
i hope disney lets him back on the show given his current circumstances
He's not been kidnapped lol @@weberfilmmedia7123
I don't love the new premise as Justin would just be *literally* following in his father's footsteps ie giving up his powers to be able to be with his partner. But I could forgive that if they actually address how effed up the wizard competition is, the various kinds of racism in the wizarding world, and expand on the magic more in this reboot.
Yeah I *hope* it's "he's disillusioned with the wizard world because the competition rules are awful and only hurt people, and there's a corrupt system, etc"
But I wouldn't be surprised if it's not
@@bloodyroses4664 mmhmm it would be great if they try to tackle some of these issues, and if they bring back hayley kiyoko to help!
If they do address the actual racism it has, it would be a very fine line that I'm not sure is worth risking. They would come out as pandering and "modern" or poorly handle it and it would be bad as well. Just not worth it
My opinion on what we know about the reboot: It’s not what I want it to be… it sounds kinda weird and boring. Like, let’s just remake Wizards but boring and not how the future of these kids would probably happen.
My opinion on “adult” revivals: I think more adult storylines can work, but I don’t want it taken too far, for two reasons. Firstly, there are actual children that may want to know what happens next and may search it out. Secondly, I think the vibes would be off.
sometimes i think it feels a bit cynical and forced too. like, just because the target audience grew up doesn’t mean a story suddenly has to become edgy. sometimes we still like to see goofy lighthearted stuff lol
it’s just a filler script to see if it gets picked up😭 if it does, i’m sure they’ll change it a bit. they did that with wizards too; the story was completely
There’s Wizards of Warna Walk
Do not use reboot, remake, and revival interchangeably as they all mean 3 different things.
@@fusetuneswhen Harry Potter got super tragic and heartbreaking I actually was deterred lol. Suddenly freeing a snake from a zoo is ideal vs beheading one (who is actually a beautiful woman) lmao
My take from the synopsis was that whatever incident happened at wiztech is what caused Justin to give up his power so that would mean his wife is probably magical too but i don't know maybe thats just how it sounded to me
we will probably start with Justin losing his power and grappling with being truly powerless for the first time in his life while training his kids and solving the big mystery in wiztech that made him give up his powers and the girl will probably have something to do with the mystery or I'm just writing a fanfic and that isn't at all what the synopsis meant
Alex caused the incident like dropping Justin in volcano land taking away his powers
I think the show would likely center it’s main storyline about what happened at wiz tech and it’s likely that the girl that shows up at Justin’s door is the daughter of whoever caused Justin to lose his powers and turned wiz tech upside down. Those story threads have to intersect at some point
If Disney keeps failing at original content, a Mighty Med reboot isn't impossible... Given that they forget that Elite Force exists
Which reminds me….Lab Rats reboot maybe? 👀
@@animetechnoblade1009 it doesn't deserve a reboot honestly
@@Koopkiris Why not? Lab Rats was one of the best Disney shows back then, definitely a part of Disneys golden era
@@animetechnoblade1009 I agree, but it definitely concluded in a "no further questions" kinda way. Plus they got really sloppy near the end there, and honestly I don't know many fans of the show who'd want to see much more of the bionic island
@@Koopkiris I respectfully disagree. Unless we’re talking about Elite Force (which I never finished), I don’t think it’s really concluded all that much. We never see what really happens to the world after the Bionic soldiers on the island finished their training and got out into their own teams.
Adam and Leo were never seen again on the show after B.I. finished up.
They could make another Lab Rats series focusing on Adam, Bree, Chase and/or Leo’s kids with bionics
listen, I'm hoping selena at least ends up as a recurring guest star, as much as I love Justin if he's the only returning character they might as well just make it a complete reboot with no ties to the original
You know
It sucks that we probably will only have Alex for one episode
But, I understand. Selena is very busy right now with her music, TV shows, makeup brand and a lot of things, so having her back even of it's just one episode is almost a miracle
We don't know tho, it seems like the only information available is about the pilot episode because they want to see how it's gonna perform.
I think if they order more episodes or a new season, they may be able to have Selena more as she has been quite vocal about wanting to play Alex again and is already involved behind the scenes in this project
@@rociohernandez3077 in that casa i think it's better to make a movie
As busy as she is, she has made it clear that she loved working on this show. We shall see
@@banaqos yeah, but she's always like this. She has Iike 3 years saying she's almost done with her new album, I mean.
As a selenator myself, I know that she's just so damn busy
I don't get how she can do this reboot and also star in Only Murders in the Building. She's crazy busy and I hope they started working on season 4. ❤
I have an idea for what the incident would have entailed. Firstly, since it wasn't said in the video, as of 2022, Bridget Mendler is currently doing both a Ph.D. at MIT and also in Harvard Law School so she's definitely really busy. Since it's not going to lean into the adult angle we probably won't properly get this, but the incident would have probably had to left Justin either disgraced or disenchanted with magic, or the wound hurts too much.
My idea is (since Juliet won't be coming back) Juliet was returned to normal, but that only lasted for so long. She started showing signs of aging again, maybe this time even deterioration since the magic that restored her had to have been something crazy from that fallen angel and with him gone it got used up. So Justin wanted to help her, and he tried with his new found magical upgrade and it was working well, until it didn't. Until he messed up. He inadvertently killed Juliet and swore off all magic forever, because magic was now tied to loss for him, a loss he created.
Oh i like that
Thats so dark
It's somewhat of a neat idea but kind of fucked up that he would go on to marry a different woman and have kids
I was thinking the same thing. It would have to be that Juliet died, it’s the only thing that makes sense. It’s just so depressing like how could you even give it a lighthearted spin.
Wizards was a very ambitious sitcom for Disney Channel standards and the synopsis for the sequel pilot sounds like a reshash of the original plot of the series. Justin is in his father’s place and I guess that could make for a good commentary about sons being just like their dads, but there were better alternatives. Like, during one of David Henrie’s interviews, he mentioned a much more interesting idea for a sequel: the family being separated and we witnessing them reuniting after years apart.
What really makes this stand apart is that it's not just a Disney cash grab--- it's a passion project. This has been asked for by fans. It's been asked for by the actors, by the producers, by EVERYONE. And it seems like they took their time to make it happen the right way. I'm so excited for this I can't stop peeing my pants.
Manage your expectations, I got a baaaaad feeling about this..
Who asked for this?
Even if it's bad we can at least say it's not just a quick buck
i wish i had your optimisim but i CANNOT
Unfortunately those two things aren't mutually exclusive. The cast and crew being excited and passionate about it, doesn't necessarily make it less of a cash grab.
Keyan, this is probably too soon to ask, but have you considered covering The Villains of Valley View which is funnily enough basically an amalgamation of Lab Rats, Mighty Med AND Wizards of Waverly Place or the rest of Pamela Eells O'Connell's shows Jessie and Bunk'd after The Suite Life on Deck?
😢
TBH I think the villains of valley view is in the same world as Lab Rats and Mighty Med. If I remember correctly it's made by the guys who made Lab Rats
I'm still wondering when the Suite Life videos will be finished, hoping it'll be soon
I’m 95% he mentioned it before in one of the lab rat videos no?
@@Tasty_Tango45 he did. It was called "meet the Mayhems" during that time
Keyan you have easily become my new favorite channel and I can’t wait for the suite life on deck video
Honestly i feel bad for Max that he barely had a chance at any character development honestly i wouldn’t mine that the wizard reboot follows Max child who goes to wiz tech that Justin having a kid where the cousin have a bromance in the show and that could lead them to be the primary wizards of there family which allows Justin to be the mentor to them in their teenage years
Yeah I honestly think this should've been the direction. I heard another TH-camr's input saying a Max reboot would be boring, but no, it's a clean slate. I can see him just making the sandwich shop something else as well. The man owns property in freaking NYC he can do a lot.
To be fair,Selena was probably just too expensive for Disney to be a main stay
Yeah, because if there is something that Disney lacks, it's money.
@@Ukaran yeah, but having Selena Gomez be a reoccurring character for a Disney channel show? That’s gonna add up quickly, especially if you already need to pay for vfx
@@crobat1693 disney owns like... everything though... they have the budget.
@@crunchevo8974just because they have the budget doesn't mean it would be profitable enough for the company
My Wizards of Waverly Place sequel series idea:
Justin starts a class for wizards who lost their Family Wizard Competition to give them a second chance to compete against each other to see who deserves to be a full wizard!
The 16 year old protagonist Adin (a male Alex Russo) secretly makes a Wizard Revolution behind Justin’s back, because he does not want to give up his magic again, and wants to ABOLISH the Family Wizard Competition (just like Stevie).
I’d want the series to be a story-driven comedy on Disney Plus, rather than a Disney Channel sitcom.
Sounds too ambitious tbh
This sounds fire
@@Dave102693 it does, I feel like Disney Plus never truly had a HIT that can compete with Netflix having Stranger Things or Wednesday. They don’t really have Star Wars or Marvel to fall back in anymore, I think Wizards could be the franchise that can give them that. But Disney finally takes a risk and change up the genre a bit (but keep that original Wizards comedy).
Like how The Big Bang Theory is just a regular adult sitcom, while its prequel Young Sheldon kind of has a whole different vibe. But both series became popular on their own. Nobody watches Disney Channel kids sitcoms much anymore (they think it’s childish). Disney should try something new to keep up with the times of what people actually could like nowadays
Justin giving up magic feels like the exact opposite of his character. Even when he admitted defeat at the wizard competition it was less about him being willing to give up magic and more about him doing the right thing by being honest.
I knowing people can change but to go from "magic is who I am" to "who cares about magic I have a family" is pretty drastic.
i dont think "magic is who i am" is part of his cahracter. in the wizards movie and a few times in different ways, he says things along the lines of alex making him a better wizard, and magic/school being the one thing hes good at. i think its more of a pressure to be perfect sort of thing, and im super curious if they're going to dive into the ethics of making justin the prof super young, all of the pressure he felt, etc. im hoping for some sort of "i was too young for this and the adults in my life failed me" lol but idk how disney would be able to make that not dark
I agree with this !!!!
Imagine if Justin appointed Max as the head of WizTech lol.
Max could do a whole arc of visiting the retired professor crumbs to pitch ideas and he loves all of them
@@KoopkirisYES. That would actually be a really funny & perfect fit for Max. He'd basically be like... the Todd of Bojack Horseman, if they could get Max right. Max deserves to be written better. I also really wanna see him super into running the sub shop and cooking and everything a lot more since the time of the end of the original show. I love that he ended up with that being his thing, and I'd like them to spend some time giving him actual stuff to do. Like run the sub shop and some kind of quirky ideas with Crumbs.
@@ollie2111 Yes to all of this!
@@scarletgiry3958 aww, yay:)
@@ollie2111
Keyan, the streets need that 4 hours Suite Life on Deck video
So Billie is probably gonna be the Justin archetype and then Roman will be Alex-esque? And then kid will be Max-esque guess? Or they'll make him super smart (like Levi from Raven's Home) but bad at magic. Then Billie can be a magic prodigy but maybe not as smart as Justin.
Bonus points if the brothers are able to be closer with Billie vs each other because the family wizard contest has already clouded over their brotherhood
I like your idea and that could be a fun set of dynamics to see if they go with something like that! It'd be really fun to see someone smart but comically bad at magic (if the writing were to be good lol).
No what i seen the trailer billie is more of Alex
1:22 I finally hit it big guys
I got into a Keyan video wow
12:58 I feel this might also be because he’s playing a much bigger role then Selena. Like he’s obviously more excited about a show where he’s gonna play one of the main characters, then someone who’s gonna have a cameo in the pilot and then possibly being a secondary or maybe even an episodic character
I'm excited but if we are only focusing on Justin idk how I feel about it in all honesty!! I just think Justin isn't a good enough character to stand alone, and that's because him and Alex are co-leads, while I like Justin it's just hard to imagine having to just deal with him. I'm guessing this Billy character is our Alex replacement in all honesty. I'm very scared that the writers are the same ones from Ravens Home since that show is just a major hit or miss but I just wish they could've gotten the OG characters back. When it comes to Justin, him giving up his powers kinda make sense to me, and that's only because he was dragged into a role at a very young age, while Crumbs did it for hundreds of years and Justin got stuck in that role which seems pretty lonely. I'm just sad that Selena will only be a guest star and even though the idea seems interesting overall it's kinda sad that most of the other characters will probably be only one off appearances. I think it'll also be interesting to see his kids find out they have magic if they didn't know and then how that rivalry or something will work between them and the Billy character.
Man these Reboots making my life worse istg, I dont have the scientific evidence yet but just wait😭
It ain't a reboot.
Love you Keyan! Can’t wait for the Suite Life on Deck video!!!
Same
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My guess they don't have the budget to bring Selena back as the main or recurring character. Alternatively, there is a serious us scheduling issue that blocks her from returning
I imagine Justin will take on a remix of Jerry's role where he'll be more loose to emulate his own dynamic with Alex, since he realizes how it helped him grow as a wizard
I think it might work if that magic incident was caused by Alex and/or Max (maybe trying to get him powers as well because he grew up and figured it was never fair competition for him as the youngest and his life just turn into mess?) And Justin as always takes responsibility for his siblings actions but also his reasoning for giving up powers could be finally seeing how corrupt and sick that system was (Ekhm.... Stevie was right or something...) Oh and that mysterious kid? Is Stevie's - Justin takes care of her because of guilt (maybe her dad and Stevie tried to start another rebellion and Justin put them in prison?) and she's like Alex while his sons are basically little Justin and Max. Also about Juliet - i feel like it was never really meant to be, just like Alex and Mason (who in later seasons just acted kinda obssesive) and as Justin grew up he realized that she's hundreds years old! But they are still friends tho and she might show up as a special guest. i think the "adult thing" they should do is adressing some issues in system but i doubt they'd do 😅
So anyway that's my pitch😂 i might have other ideas as well
Maybe Justin will give his powers to Max, just like how Jerry gave his Powers to Uncle Kelbo.
Is it possible that the new wife is still magical and Justin kept his powers (maybe) but had to step down from the academy? He then maybe just puts magic on the back burner and ignores or pretends it isn't there from trauma or shame?
The kids don’t know wizard exist. So in my theory Justin after wiztech he give up magic he crispr his kids gens ( not like nazi Eugenius but crispr) aka Remove the magic from there Bodies.
And because Justin don’t want to do what his father did when he was Young.
You said that you dont like that it doesnt have continuity of the 4 season finale. In davids and jennifers podcast they talk about how disney fired peter who was responsible for keeping the show good, and they kinda shit talk about how disney ended it with 4 season and the alex vs alex. Jennifer and David asked peter when he was guest on podcast and he told them how he would have ended it. They all seem to care vey much about the original concept of the show in first 3 seasons
6:27 I'd love it if they made it so that the old show is an alternate timeline where Justin and Juliet became endgame and in this timeline, Justin declined getting his powers back leading to the events of the revival! Justin never becomes a professor and the dumb Stevie storyline never happens but becomes a plot point later down the line. This way, that storyline gets an easy fix, the revival can do anything they want AND we get a storyline where the characters travel to different timelines!
Gary Marsh was the President of Disney Channel from 2001-2021. So he oversaw not only Wizards’s era, but its predecessors and a decade of what came after
wtf Justin, Crumbs trusted you!
Having previously being able to watch projects start up pre-prod writers rooms and such with a company that Disney and every studio works with, it's extremely likely "Wizards" is the development title and we'll see the final title chosen later.
And you are correct, the final title is Wizards Beyond Waverly Place
I’m going to have faith that since the og cast is so passionate that they will bring the old shows magic back in the new one.
Keyan Carlile is god confirmed
Congrats on being correct again, as always!
Also lmao the Dan Benson reaction clips are so funny to me. Love his work!
No joke Keyan, the moment I discovered this news, I immediately thought of you.
thank god someone is covering this because i thought i was GOING CRAZY when i saw these headlines.
given that it is the Raven's Home creators behind this, I wouldn't be surprised if Roman the older kid has been hiding from his dad that he has magical powers and justin has hid from his kids that he is a wizard hoping they wouldn't get powers or whatever, and when this wizard kid arrives basically the truth comes out.
I say that because the premise of Raven's home (in the first seasons) is one of her kids hiding his psychic powers from her and viceversa I could see them reusing that premise for the pilot of Wizards.
When Wizards get powers though it’s very obvious and Justin would know unless he was a neglectful parents that’s always working… maybe that is the plot…
@@getmeouttahere1209 maybe, but why else would some powerful wizard kid bring Justin back into the magical world if his kids have magic and he knows about it.
@@getmeouttahere1209imagine justin is like gyro's dad(hunter x hunter) 😂😂😂
@@patax144 he probably found a way to hinder their powers or they were given up when he gave up his powers because they’re apart of his bloodline. Max got his full powers in the first season of the original yet he was like 8, 9 or 10 then. Justin’s kids are supposed to be closer to the ages of Alex and Justin and by then they should already have their powers.
Ugh I hate if that was the route they went, just Ravens Home 2.0 😂
I'm going to agree with the others, this is very in character for Justin but I would prefer to have Alex. She was my favorite growing up and made the story interesting. Sad we don't get Juliet after everything they went through. Hope Alex at least mentions Mason, even if its just a wolf symbol on a piece of jewelry or a comment in passing, I loved them so much.
your videos were the first thing i thought of when i found out!!
Same.
The one glimmer of hope is that the kids are two siblings. They can have a sibling dynamic at the heart without treading old ground and have a fresh take on it.
As for the name, Netflix already has a show called Wizards so I think that would have to be a placeholder. Maybe it's set in a different location so it would be called Wizards of Washington Street or something like that.
i just don’t understand why anyone is excited for reboots. even if one turns out okay, just watch the old one? i know nothing will replace the magic (lol) of seeing it for the first time when you’re young and impressionable, but that’s part of growing up. the track record has been pretty bad for reboots/remakes and i just can’t find myself excited about something that feels so soulless and cash-grabby.
You called it and we couldnt be happier ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
"T J Austin" might need to look back at those names ;)
when i heard the reboot was happening for sure my first thought was about your comments during the wizards video!! excited to actually hear your thoughts
Revival
The setting is something I want to know. Will it be at the sandwich shop and apartment, or a brand new location? Justin having a non-magic life means a non-magic job, which is unlikely to be the sub shop as Max has the business passed down to him. Jerry and Teresa retiring would be the perfect explanation for having them appear when David and Maria are available, maybe Jerry has a lesson for Justin about being a teacher or Teresa wants to have fun with her grandsons.
It has to be something iconic and relate to the story, or it won’t stick imo
Jed Elinoff and Scott Thomas have a decent catalog, Randy Cunningham and Best Friends Whenever, so they’ll probably do it justice.
They've also helped with raven's home so I think we'll be safe. Selena is also executive producing
THEORY: Maybe the incident at WizTech had something to do with Juliet. Maybe something set her off & she turned some of the students into vampires or drank their blood or something. It could be a good way to explain why Juliet and Justin are no longer together & why Justin felt the need to leave WizTech & his magical past behind. I know that it's out of character for Juliet but perhaps she was being tricked or controlled as a part of a villain plot that would be revealed-- maybe the villain that Alex dated during the original WizTech episodes came back and has a role in it and will be a villain the show.
I know that PROBABLY this is VERY UNLIKELY... but I like the idea of it in my head even if in the show itself Juliet will probably not be mentioned at all
I like that a lot honestly!😊
Holy shit. You called it. You were actually right
Tbh i think there is potential, but the more i think about it the more i mourn for all of the interesting alternate reboots we could have had. Like maybe not Alex and Justin co running wiz tech, but instead Alex needing some extra cash to afford her bills (like to imagine her sharing an apartment with harper in nyc or smth and its crazy expensive). She could decide to use her fame from saving the world several times to apply as a guest lecturer at wiztech for the year (like one of those alternate schools you can take classes at in hs). I imagine Justin initially wants to say no ( bc potential choas and still kinda being jealous that he didnt get to save the world) but is talked into it by the rest of the staff. So i imagine alex taking students on magic school bus thpe antics and Justin having to deal with the choas while keeping the school running. I imagine harper being a yter/tik toker in the vain of that one girl who makes those "making a dress entirely out of loofahs/making oufits from popular movies". Like tell me you cant imagine her doing similar funny rambles while making crazy outfits. Plus i think there a funny plots to be had about those two basically leading similar lives in two different worlds. Alex is somewhat famous in the wizarding world and a nobody in the human world. But, its the opposite for harper. You could have some shenanigans where the two worlds collide or they struggle to connect in the other worlds. Like Alex not being able to be honest about her life with humans or harper basically breaking the law everytime she interacts with magic. Thats not even mentioning the possible love triangles that can result from living in two worlds or the inherit stakes of losing your magic at play now that theyre fully grown. My ideal reboot would actually focus on the adults though so it definitely would never happen. (I really dont think they need to make the show explicit to be aimed at adults but so many ppl have very chilidish views of adulthood so we get nothing ig).
Justin has always been a lover boy, him giving up powers for his lady kinda checks out. I feel like he would have done they for Juliet if that was to happen for some reason
Justin's now understands Jerry decision to give up his Wizard Powers to Marry a Mortal. Back in Wizards of Waverly place, episode Alex in the Middle he and Max thought it wasn't a great idea to for Jerry to decide to give up his Wizard Powers.
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To quote inevitable defenses for the show:
"This is a show about Wizards intended for children"
That quote lives rent free in some people's heads
@@hitmonkey3602 only because people used it so often to defend garbage
5:18 someone already found her and had her on zack and cody, hannah Montana, and was the star in the failed zack and cody spinoff about Arwin. That guy can kick rocks.
Maybe the long-term plot around the wacky hijnks dilemma of the week plots would between trying to dismantle the family wizard rule.
1:28 Look It's Me!
Part of me could understand Justin giving up magic if the "Incident" that led to it was just Justin hitting some next level gifted kid burn out. Like spent all his life propped up as the good sibling with the most expectations, got promoted to one of the most important roles in the Wizarding World at like 18 and then had to just keep it up. Like 3 years in he just snapped, his relationship crashed and burned and he completely left it all behind if he even made it that far
I think it’s a huge L that it sounds like Selena won’t be involved very much…. I don’t think it’ll have enough of the original cast and what made the show so good (Alex…) for the old time fans and it will be too much nostalgia bait for new, younger fans. It is almost impossible for these kinds of shows to find their footing if they try to do both. I’ll give it a try with the new kids, but the original fans are all adults and don’t want to watch a kid show with just some actors that they recognize in the background every once and a while. My hopes unfortunately aren’t too high ☹️
We don't actually know how involved she will be though she is an executive producer!
Exactly.. I was hoping for a series where it would be again Alex, Harper Justin and Max and the other main characters but older so we could see their current dynamics
This would be for those who grew up with the show
I love the commitment to try and get the theme in a Wizards video without a claim.
keyan im on my knees... i need the suite life on deck video.... im begging...
They definitely need to include Jennifer and David! Those two have been talking about how much they want a reboot for a while. If they aren't in the show, I'm not watching it!
Also, idk if you have listened to the origional creator talk about "his ending" if he was aloud to be in charge. I much preferred his story, with Alex winning the competition but give it to Justin in order to be with Mason, a nice parallel to her father.
Gary Marsh was the longtime president of Disney Channel…my understanding is he wasn’t directly involved on a creative level, but he’s the one who would green light everything (he’s mentioned in passing in that infamous Debby Ryan clip about her “making history”). He’s no longer president, although he’s still involved in an executive role elsewhere with Disney.
I’m not surprised Selena isn’t much more than a guest star (we’ll see how things pan out if it gets picked up beyond the pilot). She’s still working on music, and is committed to Only Murders in the Building in a lead role. The original creators/writers, like Todd and especially Peter, not being involved, is concerning, especially since the show was so different tonally when Peter left. But given David and Selena have clearly given this a lot of thought, I’m hoping it works out. And it’s good news for the potential future of Mr. Nostalgia’s Disney Channel Multiverse either way, given the ominous message in his video about the cancellation of Bunk’d.
I love quinton reviews videos 😍
The original series briefly touched on gender swap magic, but in this age I wonder if they would ever touch that, I mean trans wizards, how would that work? Could be cool to explore.
It would be so convenient for trans people. They don’t have to pay lots of money for uncomfortable surgeries. And the spells are instant
Somethings are inevitable
@@theshire9173I kinda hope there’s an episode where the main boy character maybe doesn’t understand trans people, then gets turned into a girl to teach him a lesson about being in the wrong body. Or if they wanted to go further with it they could have a character be turned into the opposite gender then decide they actually like it then stay that way.
Since it’s magic is it transitioning or shape shifting? Like when Kelbo turned into Shakira
Hehe there've definitely been trans wizards, though more witches
Do we know if he gave up his powers for his wife or could the "incident" be something like he got fired somehow and instead of losing his healtcare he lost his magic.
Equally tragic hsvdhshsjsjs. Tbh I hope it's the second thing and it was like, maybe someone sabatoged him or some sht happened and they ruthlessly take away his magic just because he doesnt have a wizard job (and as someone who didn’t win the competition, can't fall back on it so lets say, he could only get his magic given back if he got steady access to wizard work) but maybe his reputation was destroyed by the incident so instead of trying to fix it or clear it up he just gives up and focuses on his family for a while, tho could have a potential ability to get it back. Or maybe like, even if that is how it happened he could have married a human after he lost his powers and couldn't get them back due to work related reputation or other wiztech issues, and then in deciding to marry a human that would be him cementing his choice, rather than it being a 1:1 same thing as his dad. I think that woild be a super interestimg way for them to have him end up like Jerry if they wanted him to, while still making it interesting and unique how he got there. And, even leave a tiny bit of room for him to get his powers back as like a big pivotal moment for a later season or episode. I think that would be really cool. Also I agree with your guys' ideas that after pointing out how seriously messed up the wozard government is, having an arc where some of the character change or overthrow it would be a really interesting plot direction (with Stevie yeah!).
meanwhile, im sure fans will write fanfiction where alex is roman and the unnamed kid's mom and justin still has his powers. because my god is there a lot of alex x justin fanfiction.
14:08 Me too.....ignore that I watched the now roughly 9 hours and 43 minutes of Wizards (or I guess now, Waverly Place) content you have put out as of the making of this video. 9 and 14 are 2 entirely separate numbers.
Bruh you really do have a comedic sense and timing that hits completely different lmao. I thought my phone was busted and had to figure out why you sounded muffled at the being until I realized 🤣🤣🤣
Can i get uhhh David Henrie and Jake Austin shirtless though they're absolute hunks now
3:15 Very - Disney child-acting vibe. Which I guess fits perfectly.
8:10 Well I hope it's more of a plot point. Justin's core is presumably connected to WizTech, it's the only reason he can do magic - so if there was an accident and he resigns, I would assume he would lose his power.
Story could be about them trying to solve that issue? Outside new kids obviously being the main protags, who take the spotlight. Tbh, I don't really care that much about that part - they had to go with something and I feel like they either had to make both parents magical or non-magical, for this to work with the law lore. But I guess that could also be a plot point in the story to be solved.
I am however concerned this could end up as a reboot. Those kids strike me as generic, so I hope they get proper personalities and characteristics that make them unique and they won't be just copies of Alex, Justin and Max.
Also they definitely need to bring whole cast. Bring my man Dan.
10:55 I mean dude has two kids. He definitely did go for some mature shenanigans...
What i heard i seen the trailer neither of kids don’t know wizard exist.
So i got weird theory that Justin basic remove the kids magic. Because he don’t want his go through what he did as child.
I think it’s funny the guy who plays Zeke thinks that he’d even be called back for the reboot 😂
16:35 T___T I do this way too often lol. Shit will be defrosting and Im scrolling social media after sitting down to rest my feet or if its a delivery get the grocery delivery in the door and then im like... oh shit its been 3 hours ×__×. Lol that is funny tho, i like the little relatable the behind scenes kinda blooper joke :v
I don't use Twitter and Instagram, so I've been out of the loop for this one but I'm all in for it. Let's hope they know what they're doing.
Damn. Both Phineas and Ferb & Wizards of Waverly Place are coming back. Awesome!
I might check out the Wizards reboot, I watched a couple of seasons of Raven's Home, then I stopped, I tried to get back into it for the later seasons, and I watched a little bit of Season 5 on Disney+ but I just couldn't get back into it. Hopefully, I have better luck with the new Wizards show. 🙂
Revival
Raven's Home Season 5 & 6 weren't that bad. It was cool to for Disney to run the back in San Francisco and at Old Raven's Old House, Raven's Old School, and the Chill Grill. And for old That's So Raven characters to return to Raven's Home. Maybe Loca, Muffy, Cory, and Eddie would return in Season 7.
@@isaacogunmuko3947 I didn't say that it was bad, I just said that I couldn't get back into it. But maybe I'll try again in the future, who knows?
@@PWPictures67 I know. I was express how cool Season 5 & 6 were.
I’ve been waiting for you Keyan….
Me and my fellow "I'm in the Band" enjoyers now have even more hope that it will one day return! All seven of us have our fingers crossed!!
You should review The Villains of Valley View. It's created by the same creators of Lab Rats (Chris Peterson and Bryan Moore). Some say it's similar to Wizards of Waverly place, some say it's a knock-off of The Thundermans, and some say The Villains of Valley View is the show they've been looking for ever since Lab Rats. There's some, I guess you can call "easter eggs" to Lab Rats; even in the theme song. Bradley Steven Perry's former co-star Patricia Belcher in Good Luck Charlie has a role in this show. In season 2, we get a guest star appearance from the actor who plays Horace in Mighty Med (not him actually playing Horace though). I don't want to spoil too much for you if you're actually interested in reviewing it. Overall, it's really an interesting show. Watch some of the trailers, maybe you will be interested in reviewing. Hope you see this and take my suggestion.
Yeah, I’d love to see Keyan talk about this show once it wraps up. It probably has 1 or 2 more seasons left.
WOWP was one of my first special interests for sure and I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO FEEL ABOUT THIS?!
02:02 What, how it was a year ago?!?!?
Update: the kids don’t magical power. And second son is milo
7:51 i think this was after Justin was Done with wizard tech life.
dude ur vibe is awesome. loved the presentation of information
a potential idea for why Justin vacated was because he broke the rules, maybe he met his wife, she got pregnant because Justin forgot the magic condoms made of like dragon skin or whatever and this meant he was thrown out and gave up his magic to help raise the kid
this is just me spitballing tho they might not be willing to go that direction even if it's the only one that makes sense, more realistically they just went whole hog with the "The kids are like Jerry Kelbo and their sister" thing they attempted to do in the original and just aren't bothering to remember the themes of their own show.
While I would love for this show to be good and get 6 seasons a la Raven's Home I don't have a lot of trust in them nowadays to not have the reboot be meh at best (seriously my bet on quality level is going to be Villains of Valley View but with wands and butchered versions of beloved legacy characters.)
The thing about a Wizards of Waverly Place reboot is that the premise would be promising anyway. The hardest part will be the execution of those ideas.
Godspeed, David Henrie and co.
I think Justin giving up his powers is pretty justifiable (ha) if you assume something pretty dramatic had happened. Given the Wizarding world is canonically very messed up and unethical it's not really that much of a stretch to assume that it did. And Justin being the headmaster of the school would have been directly effected by it.
Gary Marsh was the President of Disney Channel when Wizards started.
It made me realize that im getting old, i was 9 when the first episode aired and this made happy to see
binge phil of the future please. no ones done it. i know its only 2 season, but i think it'd be awesome
I know it will never happen but I want them to make a Hannah montanna reboot because that show ran out of gas so hard by the end and a reboot would be so awful but Im so curious to see what it would look like
Maybe Miley could get married and have a daughter that might go through a pop star life too.
This is gonna be magical! Gonna binge the series and your videos on it! You're the Best! Hearth please❤❤❤❤
Lowkey hoping Juillette is the bitter divorcee
One-time guest star as the ex could be really iconic.
This is exactly what I thought about when I saw this announcement!
The only returning character will be Justin Russo/David Henrie not all that exciting.