Behringer is the only synth company that's giving us synth heads what we actually want. Roland is constantly dropping the ball, giving us a 4 voice digital Juno in toy size, Yamaha is basically doing the same. I'm glad that Behringer is bringing these affordable remakes though, more power to them!
@@wackenthaljef Hi Jeff. The original 909 and 808 are quite different, too (e.g. 808 fully analog vs 909 partially PCM; feeling and workflow of the knobs is different, kickdrum and other sounds 808 vs 909 ...). Behringer creates here 2 'new versions' (I'd like to call them rather than clones) of 2 different instruments and they DO sound different (at least at SB2019).
If Behringer did the unthinkable, they would make an instrument housing a hardware clone of the C64 SID chip. Because so far, their hardware synth clones are amazing.
I had a loan of an original 808 for some time... I can tell you, its sounds the very same here.. That clap reverb as you described it, isn't a knob on the original as is the Bassdrum tune..There both new controls.. Actually now looking at it, the hh filter isn't on the original either..!! This really is a killer 808 clone for sure.. Thanks for the look at her ;]
i used to love roland but ive found there intruments quite toy like, especially the modern gear, highly unappealing but that Behringer looks and sounds almost like the real deal. ill be buying that and the 909 when that comes out
@@foljs5858 the new Roland drum machines are toys. They sound like garbage. Add all the "features" you want, but if the core instrument is sh!t, what use are they? You are obviously new to the game of electronic music. Old school producers prefer the old "analog magic" because the old machines sound amazing. Their simplicity is their greatest strength. They do one thing and they do it perfectly, as opposed to Roland's new boxes that are like jack of all trades master of none type devices. For those of us who grew up listening to and producing music with real TR-808's, the TR-8 sounds *NOTHING* like the real thing.
Very good sounding machine, for me it’s like an 808 mk2. Note that the complete User Manual is online now. There are lots of hidden features in this box.
got mine today, it is a stunning weapon! some odd methods inside the programming language but i will get used to it - sounds unreal in life, YT does NOT transmit the depth - enjoy it starky
Behringer needs to make an Oberheim DMX re-make so I have shakers, cabasa, rimshot and tom-toms with no bounce or resonance... plus cymbals that hiss rather than crash.
The closest to the real thing of all the emulations that have ever existed in my opinion. My first electronic instrument was a TR-808 ( *given* to me by a friend who wasn't using it anymore after getting a new Boss DR-550!), so I know the sound well. The hardest thing to get right always seems to be the toms and congas which Behringer seem to have done a good job recreating. It's not 100%, but fuck it- it's close enough for the price vs $4000.
Hiya... I should think so. Roland used to talk about the kick originally being made from broken chips, and not being able to remake the analog version because the broken chips no longer existed... weird huh?
@@StarskyCarr yeah, I saw that mentioned in an 808 documentary. One of those things where defective components were needed to make them lol is quite wild.
@@StarskyCarr This bad 808 is a toy. I should have not sold my midi Kenton one for only 1800euros when I retired... Fortunately I yet own since 1994 as well my 909. Jeff Mills signed it for me in Spain in 2000 when I borrowed to him. My 808 was of the Spanish cheesy group Locomia. Have a look ( and laughs) th-cam.com/video/k00rMX9GFR0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sofiavila300
Mine came with a UK adaptor. Note: Other Behringer releases use 12V@2A. The RD-8 is 18V@1A, but the power connector is the same as the Model-D, Crave, etc. Be careful!
I still can't get no sound on this drum machine. Received it today. The "Send" button on "Wave Designer" is always turned on, I can't turn that off! Is that the cause of no sound?
Originally didn't intend on getting one of these, now I have seen this review I really wanna get one PS: On the subject of the UK plug adaptors I am actually lucky in that scenario because I already have like 2 of them in my house so if I do get one I should be ok
Roland needs to start listening. Roland could have made this and sold it for $750. But instead they give us VST in hardware form. I want to listen to an analog oscillator. Stop telling me that I don't and sell me an analog oscillator.
I wasn’t gonna get one but with the resonant lowpass and hipass filters, wave designers, and sequencer tricks, I might have to snatch up that 909. I prefer its sound slightly over the 808.
@@HotStrange Neither do I, lol. I'm planning to re-arrange my studio and also to flip between different drum machines with individual outs so I just plug in the one I am using :-D
Luke Kage hey if it works for you, that’s awesome! I tend to get overwhelmed with over-choice so I’ll stick with my Drumbrute Impact and add the 909 later for a different flavor. I have the Hydrasynth and Behringer Odyssey I have to make room for as well 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@@fjodormik2006 2 assignable physical, 11 logical, MIDI implementation including CC control over every sound patameter, panning and compression features and the sturdy aluminium front ptale.
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I use the Tr8 to run my Tr09 full sized controller with that amazing little 909, sounds well like it should..
I won't ever get rid of my TR8 as it's worth keeping for the 707 and 727 sounds alone (even though I have an original 707). And I sprayed the green rim black. It looks much better.
Starsky, thanks for another great little video. I don`t understand Roland, they could easily release re-issues of their classic synths and drum boxes and make a killing... instead, we have to depend on Behringer? What gives?
I think they have modeled the RD-8 at Behringer with a TR-808 model that they own. Especially the clap on RD-8 that has to wake up the first few hits, that just has something. I have heard an OG 808 in the past that sounded just bad maybe there was a defect but the claps and hihats didn't sound like anything. I myself have the RD-8 too and the TR-08 they sound good to my hearing! But they sound different enough to have them both. I'm looking forward to the RD-9 because I'm more of a 909 purist.
It sounds as fantastic as (1) the original and (2) this one in the video. Got mine for a few days ... and returned it ! The soft rubber knobs (Play/rec/Stop/..) had serious issues: they all stayed in the "down" position for a few tenths of a second before returning. My dealer took it back and now I 'll have to wait till october for a replacement (hoping that that one works correctly). Anyone else who has the same problem? And the presenter of this vid also has correctly pointed out that 'link the unit first...' does not work: NO software on the mentioned website nor anywhere else...
I plan on picking one up someday. The only issue I have with it is I have much more capable equipment and for the same price you can get a Korg Electribe Sampler which can do everything this can and a whole lot more. Is this unit reliable so far? I think Behringer has been trying to improve their stuff but I have seen Behringer products that are built well, sound great, and have a lot of features but use crap quality capacitors and other low end components that reduce reliability. I wonder what the build quality is on the INSIDE. I don't expect a Behringer to last for 20+ years but I would like to have it for at least a little while. Some of their stuff is good and some isn't. What has your experience been so far?
Yeah, I'll stick with my TR-8S. Samples and multiple machines in one box built to play live and sounds phenomenal. You can have the cheap Behringer knock off that does one kit and keep yelling 'analog' until you feel cool...
behringer fanboys are so projecting. This guy /watch?v=4qMfpB2RpgA did a review of the RD-8 and the build quality is pretty average and Behrigner is known for quality control issues. Roland products have much lower failure rate.
Sorry, I'm (sort of) new to synths and drum machines, but what's the difference between the 808 and the 909? This release has me greatly excited, but I just saw a video of the rd 909 and got confused. Excited still, but confused.
I quickly discovered how to do things, creating several patterns etc. But there are 2 things I don't know yet to do : how to create songs (thus chaining patterns), and how to change pattern length (chosing 32 steps instead of 16 for example). Any help welcome :)
I pre-ordered this bad boi and am more than excited for it to arrive when it does- question though, does this machine have USB functionality so I can pair it with Logic Pro X- I'm a hardware noobie so apologies if this is a stupid questions
It does have USB - but I think it's solely for updating firmware - sync and mdi triggering. The knobs don't send or receive any MIDI as far as I can tell. I think the functionality is very much in the same vein as the original.
I had all the same issues when i opened the box! Im still struggling with the Pattern advance. It doesn't move beyond 16 steps. Also the Step Repeat function has stopped working... It feels like a software update is needed. Any ideas where i can download the firmware?
Martin Jones. There is no firmware yet but they are working on it. You can do a factory reset. The new manual is on the site now, get it. Lots of info on the rd8 forum at gearslutz.com
Have one for 2 days now and it play and feels great but for me the gain on the output is too low. I play it with the master out knob full set! 30 % hotter would be better but for this price it's a great box.
My buddy was watching this on his laptop and complained about how it sounded weak and had no bass , so I plugged in my Breyer dynamics . So how’s it now bud ? He said the bass is rattling my brain. Pfff what a noob.
I read that you are Able to save up to 16 songs in this. Do you need to be connected to a laptop to use this feature ? Perhaps you could do a video showcasing this ability :) cheers
You have 16 songs on board each with 16 patterns. You don’t need a laptop, but how easy it is to edit songs is always a pint of contention with drum machines. I’ll take a look at a walkthrough if it makes sense :)
Does anyone else have a double midi trigger when controlling via midi in from an external sequencer/keyboard? With mine it retriggers the drum sound when I release the key on the keyboard.
Yes... me! I tried using an external keyboard when looking to see if it was velocity sensitive. It sounds like there’s quite a few hits and the volume goes through the roof. Oddly using MIDI patchbay on the Mac and selecting ‘use only midi channel’ but not selecting any sorted it out! Think this is one for a firmware update.
I'm starting to get in to beat sequencing and I would like to know the possiblites of loading sounds and samples on the machine itself and if it's possible to export these patterns on FL studios. Thanks for the help.
You can’t load sounds, this is an analog machine so it doesn’t play samples. It may be possible to load patterns, but I think they’d have to be in RD8 format (ie created in an RD8)
I’ve said this numerous times. Roland does not make analog gear anymore. They’d need to partner with a company like Studio Electronics like they did with the SE-02. They don’t have the infrastructure anymore for those kinds of builds. I’m sure the SE-02 prove to them that it wasn’t lucrative enough for that venture.
In my opinion, its very flawed argument to say 'it doesnt matter in the mix'.. golden rule of recording: crap goes in, crap comes out. Maybe a little different with synths than vocals, guitar etc. But still.
Very minor differences probably won’t make a difference from a synth perspective as it’s usually slight changes that could be eq’d out or very minor differences in envelopes etc. Unless it’s a major part of the sound - so some things are really difficulty to reproduce. Take Yazoo Only You arpeggiator. It’s an iconic sound and I’ve not been able to create the same tone with anything other than the vintage original Pro-One. So normally in the mix it’s not an issue... but that’s the start of the track - out on its own it’s got a unique sound - like a vocal in that respect. It’s really not the same as crap goes in crap comes out from eg vocals where the crap is maybe an out of tune note, bad performance, odd compression or mic positioning or acoustics that are really difficult to fix.
While I love what behringer is doing, you really do get what you pay for with these things. Im not surprised they gave zero shits about a manual. And lets see what happens when the thing starts breaking down. Cheap products are much more annoying to repair than quality stuff. We'll see 10 years down the line how all this gear has held up to touring and repairs. Granted you can just keep throwing them in the garbage and buy new ones for how cheap they all are.
I really do understand your comment, but feel compelled to add that there was a time when Roland knocked out cheap plastic synths, tb303,mc202,sh101, slated at the time for build quality, but there are quite a few still changing hands today. Same thing could happen for Behringer over the same span of time. As ever time will tell.
Yeah for sure. Ableton with push 2 is awesome but..... with this there is less messing around on a computer. Different creative workflow. Different interactivity. More options for effects and mixing with external gear. More basic and focused. More "on the fly". And so on. They'd be my reasons.
I did get there without the manual - watching me do it through trial and error makes for a terrible video... but you really do need it to get into the nuts and bolts of the settings etc. If you don’t read the manual you normally miss some nice functionality. It’s now been published which is useful.
Starsky Carr Just a marketing ploy. (ours does this, and those won’t do what ours do)......Been around them for long enough to know ALL fundamentals are all the same.. with respect. 👍🏻
Duke of pearl who bothers to make comments like this? And of course he can get it to work without the manual. He probably just doesn’t feel like waiting however long to accidentally find any extra features that inherently come with any new piece of kit. It’s simple. Your excited. You mess around for hours having fun. Then you read the manual. And anyway, I would’ve checked out the manual as well. The beginning of the vid?! That shit looked counterintuitive.
Why are Beringer copying Roland gear Roland defined Electronic music with TR-808 /909/707 jupiters Junos...... But they say imitation is a subtle for of flattery
..the ship has sailed and Roland has missed the boat once again.. Roland is going get their panties in a bunch when sales start skyrocketing on this RD-8 and crash on their TR-08 which serves them right.. Roland stopped making quality hardware in the 90's and instead mass produced crap for extreme prices.. trust me I used to work for Mar's music until Mar's closed and Guitar Center first opened.. I would offer Yamaha over Roland even to my worst enemy.. who in their right mind wants a digitally tame TR-08 or TR-09 unless it is to be used while slipping a $6 coffee latte in the morning after an gourmet wine hangover.. to be fair Behringer did mass produce defective mixers in the beginning but it appears like they finally got their act together just in time to steal a top slot in the pro audio gear market.. well done Behringer you took your past revenue and put it to good use.. lets see what happens next while Korg and Behringer battle it out to be the next king.. meanwhile Yamaha and especially Roland slide down the slippery stripper pole of the music meat market..
All these new bits of kit are a fucking con , anyone remember the MC303 , they've been feeding you the same shit for the past 20 years and people keep lapping it up . Buy this new fake 808 for 300 quid it's GRRRRRREAT
The word rhythm has an h after the r..... Also the tr09 sounds awful. I had one after owning a real 909. The transients on the sounds are all wrong and it doesn’t sample that well either. That’s my opinion anyway.
Thanks! I wasn't expecting such a speedy reply, nor from the man himself! Just ordered my first drum machine and your comparison videos helped me decide on the RD-8 (Mk1 cuz I love the vintage colours ha)
Behringer is the only synth company that's giving us synth heads what we actually want. Roland is constantly dropping the ball, giving us a 4 voice digital Juno in toy size, Yamaha is basically doing the same. I'm glad that Behringer is bringing these affordable remakes though, more power to them!
And the Juno module is only 200 less than the Deepmind 12D
I love my Deepmind 12D , the Fx are fantastic. The modulation possibilities are huge. Very flexible synth.
Truth.
Those ts outs are delicious.
jean luc Dubinator add the tc Juno chorus and boom you got a lush chorus-y synth
What a great time to be alive, so much good shit to spend our money on. And do spend it because life is too short. Love and peace.
WAS going to wait for the 909 one, but errrrm... Both.
Clearly both.
🤣
Yeh, that 909 is filthy with the function as
Played the 909 at Superbooth: as soon as it get on the market I will not hesitate ;-)
Eric,you say you want both but why?Are they so different?
@@wackenthaljef Hi Jeff. The original 909 and 808 are quite different, too (e.g. 808 fully analog vs 909 partially PCM; feeling and workflow of the knobs is different, kickdrum and other sounds 808 vs 909 ...).
Behringer creates here 2 'new versions' (I'd like to call them rather than clones) of 2 different instruments and they DO sound different (at least at SB2019).
If Behringer did the unthinkable, they would make an instrument housing a hardware clone of the C64 SID chip.
Because so far, their hardware synth clones are amazing.
I had a loan of an original 808 for some time... I can tell you, its sounds the very same here..
That clap reverb as you described it, isn't a knob on the original as is the Bassdrum tune..There both new controls.. Actually now looking at it, the hh filter isn't on the original either..!!
This really is a killer 808 clone for sure..
Thanks for the look at her ;]
That distinct sound. That is why the 808 in general, is the AK-47 of drum machines, and THIS is a real improvement on it
i used to love roland but ive found there intruments quite toy like, especially the modern gear, highly unappealing but that Behringer looks and sounds almost like the real deal. ill be buying that and the 909 when that comes out
They still make a lot of great instruments though.
@@foljs5858 Also known as people with ears.
Your absolutely right
@@HotStrange nothing they make is good, it's all garbage. The last good products Roland produced were the VP9000 and V-Synth.
@@foljs5858 the new Roland drum machines are toys. They sound like garbage. Add all the "features" you want, but if the core instrument is sh!t, what use are they? You are obviously new to the game of electronic music. Old school producers prefer the old "analog magic" because the old machines sound amazing. Their simplicity is their greatest strength. They do one thing and they do it perfectly, as opposed to Roland's new boxes that are like jack of all trades master of none type devices.
For those of us who grew up listening to and producing music with real TR-808's, the TR-8 sounds *NOTHING* like the real thing.
Very good sounding machine, for me it’s like an 808 mk2.
Note that the complete User Manual is online now.
There are lots of hidden features in this box.
808 mk2?
Superb video, yet again, super informative.
LINNDRUM TIME COME ONNNNN
got mine today, it is a stunning weapon! some odd methods inside the programming language but i will get used to it - sounds unreal in life, YT does NOT transmit the depth - enjoy it starky
Really good value for money. Getting one for the kids to use. Reckon they’re going to love it.
Dude, I love your channel. You've become one of the first creators I look for when researching gear. Keep it coming!
Way better channel than Andrew Hoang
@@pauls-audiolabor Lol, yes, by far.
Just ordered one of these, just can't wait !
Behringer needs to make an Oberheim DMX re-make so I have shakers, cabasa, rimshot and tom-toms with no bounce or resonance... plus cymbals that hiss rather than crash.
Deluge for the win
There is software for this and other Behringer synths. Synthtribe. With the RD, you get the sequencer on the software, so you can program it there.
Excellent cant wait for mine! Awesome vid!
It’s such an easy thing for Roland to have done. But Behringer did it. That’s awesome 👏
And so many people are so mad about it! Its almost like the ultimate gear troll... And its awesome!!
The closest to the real thing of all the emulations that have ever existed in my opinion. My first electronic instrument was a TR-808 ( *given* to me by a friend who wasn't using it anymore after getting a new Boss DR-550!), so I know the sound well. The hardest thing to get right always seems to be the toms and congas which Behringer seem to have done a good job recreating. It's not 100%, but fuck it- it's close enough for the price vs $4000.
Behringer's new branding should be: "C'monnnn!!! You know you really like us😏"
Sounds good.
I bought a Yamaha o1v just for my Rd8 . The Rd8 is a fantastic machine .
Very appealing video. Thanks for making it.
Great machine. I own TR-8 and it worked well for me. Still, it would be nice to own this, too.
It sounds really nice coming through my headphones 😎
Yes brilliant drum machine. It's a shame roland haven't got the brains to make one as good
As close as we're gonna get to an 808 reissue.
Hiya... I should think so. Roland used to talk about the kick originally being made from broken chips, and not being able to remake the analog version because the broken chips no longer existed... weird huh?
@@StarskyCarr yeah, I saw that mentioned in an 808 documentary. One of those things where defective components were needed to make them lol is quite wild.
@@StarskyCarr This bad 808 is a toy. I should have not sold my midi Kenton one for only 1800euros when I retired... Fortunately I yet own since 1994 as well my 909. Jeff Mills signed it for me in Spain in 2000 when I borrowed to him. My 808 was of the Spanish cheesy group Locomia. Have a look ( and laughs) th-cam.com/video/k00rMX9GFR0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=sofiavila300
Pass me my Moog quick!!😎🎸
Mine came with a UK adaptor. Note: Other Behringer releases use 12V@2A. The RD-8 is 18V@1A, but the power connector is the same as the Model-D, Crave, etc. Be careful!
Goof point. The Poly-D is 12v and the Td3 is 9v but the adaptors look exactly the same.... get a magnifying glass to check and label them properly!!
I still can't get no sound on this drum machine. Received it today. The "Send" button on "Wave Designer" is always turned on, I can't turn that off! Is that the cause of no sound?
Originally didn't intend on getting one of these, now I have seen this review I really wanna get one
PS: On the subject of the UK plug adaptors I am actually lucky in that scenario because I already have like 2 of them in my house so if I do get one I should be ok
Roland needs to start listening. Roland could have made this and sold it for $750. But instead they give us VST in hardware form. I want to listen to an analog oscillator. Stop telling me that I don't and sell me an analog oscillator.
I wasn’t gonna get one but with the resonant lowpass and hipass filters, wave designers, and sequencer tricks, I might have to snatch up that 909. I prefer its sound slightly over the 808.
I am getting both. They're a present to myself lol
Luke Kage Lmao nice. It’s tempting for me as well but I just don’t have the space.
@@HotStrange Neither do I, lol. I'm planning to re-arrange my studio and also to flip between different drum machines with individual outs so I just plug in the one I am using :-D
Luke Kage hey if it works for you, that’s awesome! I tend to get overwhelmed with over-choice so I’ll stick with my Drumbrute Impact and add the 909 later for a different flavor. I have the Hydrasynth and Behringer Odyssey I have to make room for as well 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Think you've just convinced me to buy one now.
Very nice! THanks. More please.
I can change the pitch of the cowbell on the TR-08.
Wow this is cool! And how many Outputs you have on the TR-08?? ;)
@@fjodormik2006 2 assignable physical, 11 logical, MIDI implementation including CC control over every sound patameter, panning and compression features and the sturdy aluminium front ptale.
I use the Tr8 to run my Tr09 full sized controller with that amazing little 909, sounds well like it should..
I really wish Behringer would make a 707
no please!
Love your videos... can't wait to see what you do with this! At least until I have mine. 🤣
I won't ever get rid of my TR8 as it's worth keeping for the 707 and 727 sounds alone (even though I have an original 707). And I sprayed the green rim black. It looks much better.
Great video!!!! hoping to get one too!!!!!
Starsky, thanks for another great little video. I don`t understand Roland, they could easily release re-issues of their classic synths and drum boxes and make a killing... instead, we have to depend on Behringer? What gives?
I think they have modeled the RD-8 at Behringer with a TR-808 model that they own. Especially the clap on RD-8 that has to wake up the first few hits, that just has something. I have heard an OG 808 in the past that sounded just bad maybe there was a defect but the claps and hihats didn't sound like anything. I myself have the RD-8 too and the TR-08 they sound good to my hearing! But they sound different enough to have them both. I'm looking forward to the RD-9 because I'm more of a 909 purist.
@1:46, 3 triggers in??? What! I was hoping for triggers out..
My mistake they're triggers out (I think they may work both ways actually)
More, more! Subscribed and waiting :)
Great review, Starsky! When's the review of the Ford Gran Torino reissue coming?😎😎
manual - VERY 80\s roland manual..perfect...tells you about all the buttons but not what to do with em or why!
Never thought of it like that !! It all makes sense now 😀
It sounds as fantastic as (1) the original and (2) this one in the video. Got mine for a few days ... and returned it !
The soft rubber knobs (Play/rec/Stop/..) had serious issues: they all stayed in the "down" position for a few tenths of a second before returning.
My dealer took it back and now I 'll have to wait till october for a replacement (hoping that that one works correctly).
Anyone else who has the same problem?
And the presenter of this vid also has correctly pointed out that 'link the unit first...' does not work: NO software on the mentioned website nor anywhere else...
Sir Synth no problems here, all knobs work.
Most likely they rub the casing and have to be aligned.
Easily done imo.
@@jacco1967 Thanks for your reply. I can't do that myself however (I'd loose my warranty). Enjoy yours!
Sir Synth I opened mine for switching the colours like the original.
Only drum machine I have is the Roland t8 but wanna upgrade to something abit more prestigious
Im happy with my Tr-08 to be honest. I might get the MC 101.
I plan on picking one up someday. The only issue I have with it is I have much more capable equipment and for the same price you can get a Korg Electribe Sampler which can do everything this can and a whole lot more. Is this unit reliable so far? I think Behringer has been trying to improve their stuff but I have seen Behringer products that are built well, sound great, and have a lot of features but use crap quality capacitors and other low end components that reduce reliability. I wonder what the build quality is on the INSIDE. I don't expect a Behringer to last for 20+ years but I would like to have it for at least a little while. Some of their stuff is good and some isn't. What has your experience been so far?
Yes, very good. very much the 808 sound, but not quite. Think I’ll stick with the tr-8s, for the variety.
Mk II just came out!!!
Thats why i.love behringer
Yes that looks and sounds sick!! Need to get one!! One little question... I assume one can program in rhythms in 6/8...like with a triplet feel...?
Yes, no problem. Select a triplet step size and cut down the pattern length to twelve steps per bar.
@@LousyFacelift thanks! Def gonna get one now then... get some groovy triplet patterns going! :)
I have the UK adapted and will swap with the european adapter
Goodbye Roland, no more tiny toys with fake analog sounds. Behringer all the way!
Over priced as well.
But if Roland actually released a remake that was analog then I think there would still be a lot of people wanting to buy one.
@@maccagrabme Maybe and if the price was competitive.
Welcome to the lack of MIDI CC parameter control.
Yeah, I'll stick with my TR-8S. Samples and multiple machines in one box built to play live and sounds phenomenal. You can have the cheap Behringer knock off that does one kit and keep yelling 'analog' until you feel cool...
Roland boxes feel like a package of corn flakes. They build it so cheap and want outrages money for it!
behringer fanboys are so projecting. This guy /watch?v=4qMfpB2RpgA did a review of the RD-8 and the build quality is pretty average and Behrigner is known for quality control issues. Roland products have much lower failure rate.
Sorry, I'm (sort of) new to synths and drum machines, but what's the difference between the 808 and the 909? This release has me greatly excited, but I just saw a video of the rd 909 and got confused. Excited still, but confused.
Essentially they have different sounds. Marvin Gaye Sexual Healing for the 808 and Madonna Vogue for the 909.
Good video!!
The "reverb" on the clap sounds more like compression. I could be wrong.
I quickly discovered how to do things, creating several patterns etc. But there are 2 things I don't know yet to do : how to create songs (thus chaining patterns), and how to change pattern length (chosing 32 steps instead of 16 for example). Any help welcome :)
... and don’t forget to save everything as it’s lost once you turn it off... I discovered 😀
@@StarskyCarr haha ! Indeed.
I made a vid talking about how to change pattern length... See ya! 😉
I pre-ordered this bad boi and am more than excited for it to arrive when it does- question though, does this machine have USB functionality so I can pair it with Logic Pro X- I'm a hardware noobie so apologies if this is a stupid questions
It does have USB - but I think it's solely for updating firmware - sync and mdi triggering. The knobs don't send or receive any MIDI as far as I can tell. I think the functionality is very much in the same vein as the original.
I have both: TR-8 and TR-08, should I buy a third 808? :D This way I can get individual outs, but I like the classic sequencer on the TR-08
Nah.
Keep in mind that TR-08 has midi CC parameter control and this thing doesn't.
I had all the same issues when i opened the box! Im still struggling with the Pattern advance. It doesn't move beyond 16 steps. Also the Step Repeat function has stopped working... It feels like a software update is needed. Any ideas where i can download the firmware?
Martin Jones. There is no firmware yet but they are working on it. You can do a factory reset. The new manual is on the site now, get it. Lots of info on the rd8 forum at gearslutz.com
Is that metal or plastic
Roland has a long way to go making their OWN synths sounding as good as the Behringer ones. Korg and Roland fell way behind Behringer.
@Luke Hmmm, besides the Kronos and Wavestation I don’t know of any other release that I would associate with “on fire”
Couldn’t agree more but you should mention Waldorf and Yamaha as well!
Have one for 2 days now and it play and feels great but for me the gain on the output is too low. I play it with the master out knob full set! 30 % hotter would be better but for this price it's a great box.
I’ve recorded a video looking at the output volume - so keep an eye out :)
@@StarskyCarr Thanks, today tried it out with individual outs and more than enough juice.
are the knob positions programmable to song or pattern or are they just fully manual?
Fully manual.
My buddy was watching this on his laptop and complained about how it sounded weak and had no bass , so I plugged in my Breyer dynamics . So how’s it now bud ? He said the bass is rattling my brain.
Pfff what a noob.
I read that you are Able to save up to 16 songs in this. Do you need to be connected to a laptop to use this feature ? Perhaps you could do a video showcasing this ability :) cheers
You have 16 songs on board each with 16 patterns. You don’t need a laptop, but how easy it is to edit songs is always a pint of contention with drum machines. I’ll take a look at a walkthrough if it makes sense :)
Does anyone else have a double midi trigger when controlling via midi in from an external sequencer/keyboard? With mine it retriggers the drum sound when I release the key on the keyboard.
Yes... me! I tried using an external keyboard when looking to see if it was velocity sensitive. It sounds like there’s quite a few hits and the volume goes through the roof. Oddly using MIDI patchbay on the Mac and selecting ‘use only midi channel’ but not selecting any sorted it out! Think this is one for a firmware update.
@@StarskyCarr Thanks for the quick reply. I've sent Behringer support an email to work it out. Yeah, should be easy to fix with an firmware update.
Is it possible to program the accent on the rd8 for example on the bassrum?
Accent is global like on the original.
Sounds like a roland TR 808.
where can i buy one
Not a manual but a quick start guide.
Thing is.... it’s not. Because it doesn’t get you started!! 😮
The full manual is up now:
media63.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0DG5/
Oh no.. now I've got no excuses ... :)
ahhh you just couldn't help yourself getting another one :-)
AArrggh... its a disease!
I'm starting to get in to beat sequencing and I would like to know the possiblites of loading sounds and samples on the machine itself and if it's possible to export these patterns on FL studios. Thanks for the help.
You can’t load sounds, this is an analog machine so it doesn’t play samples. It may be possible to load patterns, but I think they’d have to be in RD8 format (ie created in an RD8)
Was funny you got too excited and did not turn the levels up i was thinking wtf ? lol
Is the Chassis metal?
Stevali1966 No, plastic! 😡
It'll be a cold day in hell before Roland gives a toss what any of us think. Just sayin'.
That's their prerogative... and it's our prerogative to give our money to Behringer...
@@narcoticstate2127 Seriously. Behringer can do no wrong at this point.
I’ve said this numerous times. Roland does not make analog gear anymore. They’d need to partner with a company like Studio Electronics like they did with the SE-02. They don’t have the infrastructure anymore for those kinds of builds. I’m sure the SE-02 prove to them that it wasn’t lucrative enough for that venture.
In my opinion, its very flawed argument to say 'it doesnt matter in the mix'.. golden rule of recording: crap goes in, crap comes out.
Maybe a little different with synths than vocals, guitar etc. But still.
Very minor differences probably won’t make a difference from a synth perspective as it’s usually slight changes that could be eq’d out or very minor differences in envelopes etc. Unless it’s a major part of the sound - so some things are really difficulty to reproduce. Take Yazoo Only You arpeggiator. It’s an iconic sound and I’ve not been able to create the same tone with anything other than the vintage original Pro-One. So normally in the mix it’s not an issue... but that’s the start of the track - out on its own it’s got a unique sound - like a vocal in that respect.
It’s really not the same as crap goes in crap comes out from eg vocals where the crap is maybe an out of tune note, bad performance, odd compression or mic positioning or acoustics that are really difficult to fix.
While I love what behringer is doing, you really do get what you pay for with these things. Im not surprised they gave zero shits about a manual. And lets see what happens when the thing starts breaking down. Cheap products are much more annoying to repair than quality stuff. We'll see 10 years down the line how all this gear has held up to touring and repairs. Granted you can just keep throwing them in the garbage and buy new ones for how cheap they all are.
I really do understand your comment, but feel compelled to add that there was a time when Roland knocked out cheap plastic synths, tb303,mc202,sh101, slated at the time for build quality, but there are quite a few still changing hands today. Same thing could happen for Behringer over the same span of time. As ever time will tell.
@@soulixier6939 true, and I hope it does.
u need to put in your own patterns haha
Why buy those gears when ableton give you all the best from all of them, tr 606,tr707, 808,909 and so much more.!
Yeah for sure. Ableton with push 2 is awesome but..... with this there is less messing around on a computer. Different creative workflow. Different interactivity. More options for effects and mixing with external gear. More basic and focused. More "on the fly". And so on. They'd be my reasons.
Many people, including myself, absolutely hate using computers for making music. That is why. Also, this is an analog machine. That is significant.
Who reads a bloody manual?! Mate....if you’ve spent enough time with various machines you shouldn’t need to read up on stuff. 🤔
I did get there without the manual - watching me do it through trial and error makes for a terrible video... but you really do need it to get into the nuts and bolts of the settings etc. If you don’t read the manual you normally miss some nice functionality. It’s now been published which is useful.
Starsky Carr Just a marketing ploy. (ours does this, and those won’t do what ours do)......Been around them for long enough to know ALL fundamentals are all the same.. with respect. 👍🏻
Duke of pearl who bothers to make comments like this? And of course he can get it to work without the manual. He probably just doesn’t feel like waiting however long to accidentally find any extra features that inherently come with any new piece of kit. It’s simple. Your excited. You mess around for hours having fun. Then you read the manual. And anyway, I would’ve checked out the manual as well. The beginning of the vid?! That shit looked counterintuitive.
Why are Beringer copying Roland gear
Roland defined Electronic music with TR-808 /909/707 jupiters Junos...... But they say imitation is a subtle for of flattery
Because the demand is there and has been for 3 decades and Roland haven't been interested in replicating these fully.
Roland dropped the ball, that's why.
Powers on, pushes play, no sounds. "Get the manual" 🤦🤦🤦
Keeping it real 😂
But who ever uses the pan function anyway? it's cheesy
Panning is like having two bus outputs. Really useful if you've not got many mixer inputs available.
I’ve used the pan on the TR09 to do just that.
Having said that... it was a pita!!
shoominati23 ????
You can do the same thing through your mixing board anyway
..the ship has sailed and Roland has missed the boat once again.. Roland is going get their panties in a bunch when sales start skyrocketing on this RD-8 and crash on their TR-08 which serves them right.. Roland stopped making quality hardware in the 90's and instead mass produced crap for extreme prices.. trust me I used to work for Mar's music until Mar's closed and Guitar Center first opened.. I would offer Yamaha over Roland even to my worst enemy.. who in their right mind wants a digitally tame TR-08 or TR-09 unless it is to be used while slipping a $6 coffee latte in the morning after an gourmet wine hangover.. to be fair Behringer did mass produce defective mixers in the beginning but it appears like they finally got their act together just in time to steal a top slot in the pro audio gear market.. well done Behringer you took your past revenue and put it to good use.. lets see what happens next while Korg and Behringer battle it out to be the next king.. meanwhile Yamaha and especially Roland slide down the slippery stripper pole of the music meat market..
All these new bits of kit are a fucking con , anyone remember the MC303 , they've been feeding you the same shit for the past 20 years and people keep lapping it up . Buy this new fake 808 for 300 quid it's GRRRRRREAT
Not a fan of the re-boots then ;) ??
jesus man, just press some buttons and figure it out
Haha... I did ... but it makes for awful viewing!!
@@StarskyCarr Would definitely make for better viewing than manual diving ;D
Thx for making the vid!
The word rhythm has an h after the r.....
Also the tr09 sounds awful. I had one after owning a real 909.
The transients on the sounds are all wrong and it doesn’t sample that well either.
That’s my opinion anyway.
How embarrassing :)) but I can’t find the typo?
Starsky Carr yeah.... maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned it..
It’s in the title. 0.06 seconds in....
@@mattjbatkinson1911 Haha.. that sort of thing REALLY annoys me !!! ... I'm a fekin idiot!!
Starsky Carr it happens to us all dude. I like your videos.
Just too big for me, the boutiques are the right size.
I get that - the boutiques are really neat. I doubt I'll replace my VP03 with the larger Behringer VC340.
Did they not come with a power supply??
Yes, I can’t remember with this one but often things arrived without a U.K. plug… but a European one.
Thanks! I wasn't expecting such a speedy reply, nor from the man himself! Just ordered my first drum machine and your comparison videos helped me decide on the RD-8 (Mk1 cuz I love the vintage colours ha)