Who is Lilith - First Wife of Adam - Ancient Origins and Development of the Myth of the Demon Queen
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- The Mythology of Lilith - first wife of Adam and Queen of the Demons - is truly one of the most ancient and impressive legends in demonological history. Originating in ancient Sumerian legend, haunting the Levant for millenia, and proving to be one of the most enduring entities in the Abrahamic religions, Lilith remains one of the most alluring and frightening legendary beings. In this first episode, we explore the earliest origins of Lilith in ancient Sumeria, her mythological development in Ancient Israel, the Babylonian Talmud, Incantation Bowls and Rabbinical Legends where she infamously becomes the defiant first wife of Adam.
Part II - • Who is Lilith - Part I...
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Initiation is how lilith achieves this right, quantum entanglement? Or is she the one conceived without sin in Zeus mind?
For centuries, people have been asking *why* is lilith? but no one is asking *how* is lilith? :(
@@benjaminwatson9778 I only know of her time with Frasier (sorry, I had to go there.
What's fun is that over the past 20ish years enough genetic material has been gathered (2,000+ samples) of Sabe' .
Two things stand out .
1 . Same genetic " Mother"
2 . Sabe' is Caucasian
( So there was 2 Adam's ? 1 Eve ? Possibly . )
But I'm also crazy ! So I got that going for me 😂😂😂😂😂
@@RussellStClair-cy1vu that doesn't make sense because the first modern humans came out of Africa and migrated to Europe, some 40,000 or 50,000 years ago, were all dark skinned. Light skinned people weren't on the scene until around 8,000 years ago.
The fact that you both get and mention puns in ancient Aramaic esoteric literature attests to both your own mastery of the subject and to the very Human geekiness of these ancient Peoples. Humour is all too often taken lightly and underestimated.
I’m a simple man, I run into a well researched and eloquent video religion/historical deities, I subscribe and binge the channel
Pmo with some channels like this brother. ive been looking for channels that talk about deities and stuff like this !🙏🏽
well said
@@papadaxly relatable
This hits deep. I've always had a fascination of Abrahamic religions. I was raised Catholic, so I was introduced to many Christian based principles early on in Catechism. Before I learned that many religions fall under the Abrahamic umbrella, I noticed many patterns early between various religions - specifically Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Aside from the obvious similarity of a messiah figure, there are many other parallels between the religions. I started digging a little deeper in college and I took some religious studies classes. They ended up being philosophical treatments of religions, and didn't really explore the origins of religion. That led to my own research and I was surprised to find similarities in even more ancient religions. It's fascinating to see our connection to the past as a living document in the form of religion. That's when I realized that religion is more than just an organized worship of God. It's a means to document history and the many traditions our ancestors participated in.
It doesn’t just document history though, it writes its own version of it.
@@curbroadshow All of history is as such. Winston Churchill said it best when he said, "History is written by the victors." That's not something unique to religious history.
@@curbroadshow I'm done arguing with you. You sound ignorant and very much like an anti-Semitist.
@@BitwiseMobile That's such a typical and semi-mistaken view of ALL history that ALL history is written with a slanted view depending upon which so called "side " your on ....Not ALL history is written from a point of view ....Yes a lot of it has been BUT some historical information that was documented throughout the ages wasn't ALWAYS recorded with a warped bias from the "victors".....Unfortunately yes a lot was then mixed in with actual unbiased record.....It would be nice for ONCE if things could viewed WITHOUT the bias of one side or another....This is why a lot of history is so uncertain and argued about by scholars ....Sad really...When so much history cannot be truly trusted or able to be agreed upon as factual....So much history almost seems useless because of the view that its ALL written by the victorious of some ideology or another.
Bravo! You are an anthropologist and do not even know it. Cheers mate!
Once again singing the praises of this series. Remember your favorite teacher of professor. The one that would keep you on the edge of your seat. The one who’d stretch your mind a bit every class. The one who taught you not only to question, but to appreciate the journey of questioning. This is that guy. Damn. If he were my professor, I’d probably be a theology or comparative religion/mythology major. Absolute fascinating stuff. An excellent example of the good social media can bring us. 🎉🎉🎉
“Female autonomy… a subject that still strikes terror in basic bros everywhere”
the SHADE
That's why men and pick me women bash feminism. How dare women not want to be treated like chattel. The nerve! 🙄
Funny thing in Iraq we still do an old Sumerian prayer to protect babies but now we just use it to put babies to sleep. It goes like “Lil-lo Lil-lo Lil-loo” I am not sure about the rest of lyrics but it means something in the lines of your enemy can’t see you, or your enemy has left or both, but it has something about the enemy of a child being banished or blinded to the child or both so that the child could sleep now and to stop crying. I will ask my mom for the rest of the lyrics if anyone’s interested
That is so interesting!!
please do!!!
@@nononosfe alrighty!
very curious!!
I believe it’s all made up and borrowed from Hinduism and Zoroastrianism 😅
I do like the little jokes you make. Your videos are academic and well researched. Some topics are more difficult to follow than others. It’s the humour that makes me always come back for more.
"Lilith Eden"?!
Hmmm.... 🤔
SO??? why DID YOU divorce Adam ??? :-)
I agree hole heartedly
I like her name. I believe Limits was framed.. The very first case of a man whining because he didn't get his way.
@@frankhernandez6883 was never married to him to start with
“The owls are not what they seem”…
Twin Peaks
I love how the incantation bowls end-up wandering into 'legal' territory, where even the divine and supernatural are subject to things like divorce and alimony. It (in my opinion) actually says quite good things about how civilised a society is at the time of making.
marriage is a spiritual bond/contract, always has been.
@@XxMadermanxX Marriage was a legal agreement for most of its history.
@@SonofSethoitaeBoth of you are correct.
It's more energetic than legal.
@@SonofSethoitae most 'legal agreements' are based on religious connotations. it's a very new thing to consider moral standards separate from religious standards.
Utter Atheist & materialist here, since I was a boy - but I have always been fascinated with historic religion and myths, particularly the evolution of beliefs. Really glad TH-cam recommended this channel to me, this was a fantastic video. Thankyou!
Thank you for making this subject accessible to those of us who are not very scholarly. I do not pretend to fully understand every thing you cover. I do understand more after your lectures than before. I cannot wait for part II.
These stories remind me of both Medea and Medusa from Greek mythology. Rejection, loss of children, being turned into a monster.
In Medusa's case, her being turned into a monster is more of a Roman interpretation, written by Ovid with (maybe) the intention to depict the abuse of power in Rome. In original Greek Mythology, Medusa has always been a Gorgon, along with her sisters.
And Medea killed her own children as revenge against their father. I mean I guess that’s “loss” but it’s a bit different than if they had died by other means.
Yes! Lilith reminds me of Medusa.
But those are myths. All of the Abrahamic stuff actually happened. No, really. Starting with the talking snake. All that foreskin stuff too.
@@ashsabath1643 I was about to say!! Medusa was a victim, thru n thru, but Medea did EVERYBODY dirty. She also dismembered her own brother and threw his remains into the sea so her father would be too grief-stricken to pursue her after she ran off w/ Jason & the gang 😏
Thanks Dr. Sledge! I’ve been a viewer of yours for sometime and have enjoyed it! I’m currently completing my dissertation at Pacifica Graduate Institute in Mythology & Depth Psychology. Many of your videos have been really helpful!
The limited 'history' of religion, I find more interesting than the 'dogma' of religion. The only reason people like myself get a peak is due to the insightful work of people like Dr. Sledge. So proud you refernce your Mississippi roots in your bio. Thank you for publishing some of your work on TH-cam. You are an informed and gifted communicator. You have a large box of pieces to this jigsaw puzzle of religion.
In Arabic folklore and Qur'anic legend, the djinn are said to love desolate ruins, abandoned wells and other lonely places, preferably places where humans once lived and then forsook. Owls also are so strongly associated with ruins and the like that they're a poetic and artistic trope, almost a cliche, that'd common to this day.
Definitely one of the most interesting mythological figures with such a fascinating history. And she has obviously been continually fascinating people from her ancient Sumerian origins through millenia and still does today.
And despite Lilith being barely (or not at all, depending on opinion) mentioned in the Hebrew Bible she persevered all this time and has even cemented herself a place in modern pop culture - for example, the first time I ever heard of Lilith was from _Vampire: The Masquerade_ (the pen & paper roleplaying game) where Lilith plays an important role in in-universe history/mythology.
Kabbalistic traditions tell us that Adam had two wives: Lilith and Nahemah. It is stated that Lilith is the mother of abortion, homosexuality, mother of sexual degeneration, and Nahemah is the mother of adultery, fornication, etc. Lilith and Nahemah are the two aspects of infrasexuality. These two women cor- respond to two submerged spheres within the very interior of the Earth, the infradimensional and the mineral. Karmic residue from time long ago our ancestors (progenitor of the human race) reproduced asexually, hermaphrodites
The vampire is Lilith, it fears the cross because the cross represent the joining of the masculine and feminine force, the penetrating vertical beam i.e. obelisk and the receptive horizonal beam (heaven and earth). They fear the sun=solar=soul=cosmic Christ that is sacrificed on the cross as the soul decents from heaven to enter the child created during the union of man and women. The stake representing the obelisk/masculine, the heart representing the feminine ect ect
@@celestialdesign9611 this is fun fan fiction. Did you play the tabletop game too?
@@celestialdesign9611 Damn. Now that's a solid lesson.
I've done a search for "Lilith" in the Hebrew Bible. The only references I've found that could be interpreted as "Lilith" are words that mean darkness, destruction or the mighty screech owl.
Could you enlighten us where she is otherwise mentioned, as a person, in the Hebrew Bible?
Vampire is great! Played the pen and paper, video games and even have the card game.
“Lilith is an enduring myth that captures a range of fears and anxieties”.
Dr Sledge, you have explained much of religion and the like in one sentence.
Thank you for a fascinating video 🙏
Dogs hunting in their dreams may twitch and kick, but the ape which did not develop sleep paralysis fell out the tree. As a controlling incubus/succubus figure of pubescent dreams, Adam's first wife would've been part of his clay (adamah), prior to the separation of his 'rib' (the female suffix: ah).
I think it'd be fair to mention opposite side of religion as well - hope and optimism.
Religious behaviour has developed so early in our species that it's instinctive to us. And there's a good reason for it as it allows us to come together and share in object of hope for better days not actually knowing whether the things will get better. Of course, that also means fear for it.
Midwit
@@MartinzW Fear Not 🤝
A spirit asked me to come to its house (aka the location where its flesh & blood body is located) to remove a demon from its house (aka the flesh & blood body which the evil spirit is existing in) and I went to the physical location of its house and there was one demon possessing its house [aka body] and I told the demon within the body of the man to come out of him, then using the man's body (aka house) the demon immediately fell off of the bed it was sitting on to the floor and then started flopping around on the floor from side to side and backwards, then I told the demon within the house (aka body) of the man it was possessing to tell me its name and the demon said *Lilith* - then I went to the flopping body of the man on the floor and I put both of my hands around the neck of the body of the man *Lilith* was possessing as-if I was strangling to death the man's body *Lilith* was possessing, using the vocal cords of the man's body *Lilith* said *"spirits of the underworld save me"* and many demons appeared to save *Lilith* and possessed the bodies = houses of the spectators that was there and with both of my hands STILL wrapped around the neck of the man's body *Lilith* was possessing I told *Lilith - "As God I say nothing and nobody can save you from me - go back to Hell and patiently await for the appointed time when I will send my angels forth to cast you and all the rest of my enemies into the Lake of Fire"* - then *Lilith* and all of the other demon spirits *Lilith* called forth from the underworld to save her disappeared out of the bodies of the spectators they was possessing there and did exactly as I told them to do.
This was just awesome, no one else gives such scholarly background on these topics, can't wait for part 2!!
Where is part two? *tears*
Check out Mr Mythos videos, he gets super in depth about things like this guy 👍🏽👍🏽
I've been studying Lilith for 20 years. There is so much and yet so little about her. As mentioned, there are hints at her in the Mesopotamian literature, but so many holes in the stories, it's very confusing as to her true origin. I'm working on my 3rd book on her where I'm trying to dig as deep as I can into her origins, but mostly that is a handful of mentions and myths that may relate to her and may not.
@@davidlafleche1142 Jewish Midrash would disagree. Her name is only mentioned twice in the Torah in obscure passages, but the Midrash mentions her time and time again. She is also mentioned in Sumerian texts such as the Epic of Gilgamesh. So, it depends on your point of view and if the Biblical texts are the only to study.
@@davidlafleche1142 That is your opinion and you are welcome to it. I'm not trying to change your faith or convince you of anything that you are not interested in. I study more than just the Bible (as do many theologians). So, I happily agree to disagree and wish you well.
@@davidlafleche1142 Ya.....I dont think this channel is for you bud. If you can't seperate "faith" from the study of faiths you are not going to get anything from this content.
@@davidlafleche1142 no he was supposed to have a different wife before Eve. Lilith (in the scripture) was made the same way as Adam. However, she wasn't into Adam and was independent, so she left on her own accord from Eden. God then made Eve, but out of Adam's rib to signify she's from man (hence the word woman). It was to make a wife for Adam that wouldn't do that again.
I'm not a Christian, was raised one though. The Torah mentions her briefly, which is the old testament in the Bible. She's more of a representation of why women can't be Independent or like man in this form, but she also is from an older religion with a lot of fragmented legends. From what I've gathered looking into her, she seems to be a spirit people feared, and that part of her stuck with the Hebrew religion that came up later on, and thus she kind of stayed in the public understanding of a lustful, evil entity.
I'm not really aware of her much, but learning about Lilith was kinda interesting. Theologies are fascinating, regardless of who or what they are about.
Lastly, as a pagan, I don't want you to think I'm trying to force you into a different form of thinking. I'm going off my personal research of this particular figure. With that being said, you shouldn't try to force others to think differently either. From what I remembered in my upbringing, the one thing that stuck with me is something Jesus said: do unto others as you wish others do unto you. You don't want people to tell you what to believe, so don't do that to others. Regardless of what faith is right or wrong, we're all people. And we should love each other because we're all equal in that way.
@@davidlafleche1142 Hi David, I think that it would assist you greatly if you first begin researching the vast similarities evident in the 3 major faiths : Judaism ,Islam and Catholicism, it will open your eyes and afford you your own damascene experience 🙏🏻 then you will begin to understand their individual and collective purpose in uniting the world and thus have your own Eureeka moment : ( punch the air/ tears of joy/ laughter/ euphoria/ many thank you's and thereafter looking skyward and uttering' Genius '. " Order out of chaos" So welcome aboard and enjoy the truly wonderful journey, which along the way will bless you with eyes to see and ears to hear. Let your Love of God be your compass and don't veer off the path ahead ( by becoming sidetracked by fear ) Onward and Upward
4:15 Lilith the oldest surviving figure in all Abrahamic mythology
5:35 proto-succubus type figure
6:40 demonological ecology
8:40 panMesopotamian demonesse
What is your point?
@@lilithsmith1290they're just timestamping the video for simplicity chill
@@alphasword5541you just told Lilith to chill, you could end up in trouble mate😂
I'm really glad you're doing this series and utilizing your effective communication and your knowledge to explore the historical development of Lilith. I have a very personal relationship with her, whenever I was a young kid I remember finding some webpage talking about her from the women's liberation lens and feeling drawn to her (maybe it was the girl in me that no one else yet recognized). I distinctly remember saying a prayer to her and feeling like it was the first time I actually felt like anyone was listening to them : ). I look forward to learning more about Lilith in the kabbalah, as lately I have become very interested in kabbalah and have been reading translated kabbalistic texts (Palm Devorah, Ohr Neerav, Zohar, and parts of Etz Chaim for example). Thanks for all your work ✌
Don't pray to her. She definitely doesn't listen to any prayers.
Nothing good comes from giving attention to her.
I was never taught Adam had a first wife..
If you feel heard, go ahead and pray to her. You deserve to be heard
I talk to those that have passed and I feel listened to as well.
For me, Lilith is the indomitable divine feminine, spirit of Mother Nature, unrecognized and misunderstood as evil by those too ego-absorbed and fear-driven to be able to intuitively recognize and identify with, and therefore, know and understand her.
Because such people see Lilith as something other than and external to their idea of “self,” - they fear her. It would be the same as if a child was separated from its mother at birth and then taught to be afraid of her.
A mother crocodile is a beautiful sight to its babies - and terrifying to everything else.
For me, it's a matter of control. The Divine Feminine and the forces of Mother Nature are feared because men know they cannot control them. Likewise female sexuality and reproduction. For some reason, (most) males feel like they MUST control everything in their orbit and if they can't, the thing/force is to feared and demonized.
@@grittykitty50 there’s truth in what you’re saying. That said - all of the worse control freaks I’ve ever met were female. Maybe the case can be made that male control freaks cause female control freaks. Lol
That’s how I feel. I feel Lucifer was never evil. He was one who just had a mind of his own. So you could say Lilith and Lucifer are our Father and Mother, and Sathanas as the son. People need to educate themselves more. The Book of Enoch explains it better.
@@emilyspector2728 it’s funny that people think of Lucifer as a spirit of deception and oppression when he is actually the very spirit of freedom and truth.
@@Non-Serviam300 because no one likes a rebel, especially the conformist 😉
3:27 I LOVE the way he invites you in so eloquently, and then, genuinely, thanks you for supporting him. He provides quality insight on meaningful topics, all things spiritually related. He is putting the Law of Attraction into play!! Watch him manifest right before our eyes! He is ‘feeling’ the feeling of what it’s like to have what you desire before actually having what it is that you desire.
He is freakin’ awesome!! I adore his sense of humor!! It is good to connect with you, dude! Carry on!!! You are blatantly genuine, dear friend, and a breath of fresh air!! 😮💨😮🥱😴😮💨 (repeat)
LOVE how thorough (& funny) Dr Sledge's videos are! Incredible that we get this university-level education for free, if we (sadly!) can't afford Patreon support... I learn so much from every episode - incantation bowls for example are something I'd never heard of before, & look forward to hearing more about?
You have no idea how I enjoy these Indepth and scholar explanations on the origins, evolution and influences of many bible figures, how they came to be in the changing times and without the massive bias/blind-faith/political filter that limits the narrative so much I end up with a sermon/propaganda, there can be some parts missing but you really explain it far more professionally. I hope you continue these videos Doctor.
Very fascinating figure, and excellent summary of her conceptual origins. Lilith is particularly interesting for how much her name appears in modern pop-culture, despite how esoteric and murky her actual stories and origin are.
I remember [when I'd first found and subscribed to your continually excellent channel] asking if you could do an episode on Lilith. You replied and said you were definitely working on it - I think it was well over a year ago. She certainly is a fascinating and enigmatic character, far more interesting than most characters in the Abrahamic canon! The whole sexually-charged confrontation with Adam, her use of the Ineffable Name [where the heck did she pull that from???], the subsequent angelic pursuit and her flat-out denial of Yahweh's power over her is just incredible - and the fact that the story is still known [and hasn't been stamped out by subsequent patriarchy] is even more remarkable.
It's been worth the wait, and I've definitely been entertained by all your content in the meantime. I look forward to every episode, and I'm very glad to see that this episode will have a sequel too! Thank you, Doctor, for all you do. I have been fascinated by esoterica, arcana, and the history of religion and magick for most of my life; finding your channel has been a true joy. I only wish it had been available thirty years ago when I was in my twenties!
Keep up the great work, it is truly appreciated.
With massive respect, from wayyyy down in Australia.
Can you please do an episode on all the serpent and dragons in the bible and Jewish mythology telling how some of the higher angels in Heaven are actually serpents and or dragons that would be a wonderful episode Dr. Sledge!
My two pesos are that serpents are comets and also associated with knowledge. Many people's respected serpents than hated them.
I wonder if the whole serpent tree of knowledge motif was the knowledge of agriculture and currency. When humans lived in small groups their would have been less violence, less disease and all the negative things associated with urban living
Creagcanford has a few episodes associating the serpents with water-in a positive light for growing crops or negative in bringing floods
Love his channel!
Before lice treatment, forcing a woman to grow out her hair could cause a lot of suffering. People would purposely shave their heads to avoid dealing with lice and other bugs and wear wigs because the wigs itched less. Isn't that crazy?
I am so happy to find this channel! I am going to binge everything.
Welcome!
Just found your channel and boy am I happy! Been looking for some good religious history, demonology, kabbala, etc educational content and boy does it look like I came to the right place.
Loved this episode and I can't wait for part 2!
So excited for this series! I hope you touch on the extremist Protestant Christians who think Roman Catholicism is satan worship and that the veneration of Mary is really just praying to a Lilith archetype. Anyway, love the channel, keep it up!
“Lilith laughs last” Omgg I’m cracking up 😂😂😂😂
Are you so sure she will be the last one laughing in the very end
Dr. Sledge, thanks for this video. I was under the impression that a Midrash was created to fill in gaps in the text of the scripture. In this case Genesis 2:23 has Adam finding the woman created from his rib saying "Now, this time, this is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh". This implies there was another time where a female was created not from his ribs but from the dust of the earth as he was. I seem to remember reading this in the multi-volume "Legends of the Jews". Would appreciate your input on this matter unless it will be discussed in the next episode, which I am looking forward to.
Interesting. I found that in ancient Greece, the word daimon ment a spirit or a divine power. Daimon may came come from the Greek verb dalesthi ( to divide or distribute ). . Daimon were a deity or spirit that watches over a person or place. It seems to me that other cultures demonized the daimon for there own purpose. Male superiority. Again interesting. Good class . Can't wait for part 2 . 👍😊
They had a figure in a flat mat at the threshold you had to step on to enter the house name Mat Daimon.
The owl seems it was very important to many cultures in ancient world, globally. It may also be hidden in background of some images you've shown. Particularly an owl with one eye open, and the other closed. For instance, at 0:58, Lilith is shown with arms up and palms facing outward. On viewers left, her right, in comparison hand seems closed and recessed while other appears open and protruding. I am not convinced this is a simple case of age related wear. I believe palms may represent owls eyes. Our left is closed eye, our right is open, and with further inspection points of ears, wing structure, and even Lilith's lower legs and feet would fit a large owl in background. Just a thought, but I think it's possible much more is going on in background than currently realized.
I just found your channel. I've been fascinated by the legend of Lilith, but I've never been able to find much beyond the pop culture references. Thank you for this.
I just want to say, I really appreciate that you'll say "We don't know and probably will never know" where other lecturers often speculate instead or worse - voice their speculations as facts.
Love your ideas and effort you put into communicating them
Ancient men blaming their wet dreams on a spirit woman is hilarious
Nearly all phenomena were attributed to spirits back then, why would this one be exempt?
@@kieferonlineall phenomenon are a biproduct of spirits. Your point?
You're not to bright
@@GeGe-fg3hx Hit home, huh?
Some still do believe it or not
This is fantastic content as always. Thank you so much for all your efforts!
My pet who passed used to head bump me . I was holding one of my other cats who has never head bumped me when suddenly she did. I immediately thought of onji,the cat that passed ,and clearly felt his presence.sooo sweet. Thank you so much for your wisdom in this Area. If i hadn't listened to your videos i would have missed this.❤❤❤❤❤
Ooops...this comment was supposed to be on another channel.
Hey doctor, I just wanted to say your channel came up in my recommendations and this has been the most pleasant and informative rabbit hole, thank you so so much
Great episode!
I grew up in a feminist pagan/new age household.
So Lilith came up in conversation here and there.
Mom had a Lilith T shirt at one point, her lesbian friends had Lilith tattoos etc.
I'd always wondered on where she came from because she was never mentioned (nor Ashera) when I was in Catholic school.
You may ask; Why would a pagan feminist send her kid to Catholic school.
Have you seen the public schools in the deep south?
Fascinating to know she has roots that go back to Sumerian-Akkadian traditions.
Waiting for the follow up with anticipation.
Wait, you promised at least 2 maybe 3 follow ups here, Lilith PT2, something about the bowls and believe there was a third topic you promised to get around to.
Nah, didn't ask. I'm a gay Jew/Indigenous Australian and I sent my son to the local Lutheran school, because the public schools in my area are shitty. You do the best you can with what's available when it comes to your kid's education.
@@angelawossname Too true!
"Pretty sure Lilith was on top for that..so... Lilith gets last laugh" 😆 I had to backtrack bc I was laughing too much at that. Imagine getting divorced over sex position. No wonder they left it out of weekly sermons!
But seriously, I love this channel. I'm learning so much and have started reading more into Kabbalah.
The sneaky little jokes and references are treasure, great job!
I can't remember the first time I heard about Lilith, but she's always fascinated me and been a kind of inspiration for me against the abuse I experienced both at home and at church.
As someone with a degree in anthropology, I also find Lilith's evolution as a terrifying child eating demon to a feminist icon to be really interesting, so I'm really glad you've made these videos about her. Thank you for your work!!
I find it incredibly fascinating and highly entertaining/educating too! I was raised "Christian" and am now very uncertain as to what I actually believe to be honest...
@@moms.flourishing That’s the nature of life, eh? Anyone who claims to have it all figured out definitely does not 😂
@@loch1694 ofc life is ultimate therefore it’s never completed anything given is false
Odd to me is that in the old depictions, Lilith is almost always presented with a friendly smile. Like, this strikes me that you're not supposed to dislike this entity.
Maybe it's a smirk.
@@annwood6812 I wouldn't dislike someone for having a smirk. Just tells me they view themselves as aware of something the people who oppose them don't, or someone who is in more control.
It is supposed to put you at ease so she can make you obey her
@@dustencross357 Except Lilith doesn't demand obedience. All she does in the era where she was on the bowls was interfere with with having kids, and that if the bowls were to break, the wife wouldn't be fertile anymo...
I think I answered my own question.
I suspect that when wives would break the bowl when they didn't want to have kids anymore. So Lilith wasn't a villain so much as someone who was good or bad depending on the period of your life.
Now, of course, *husbands* of the era would paint her as bad, since so many wanted as many kids as possible, but seriously, after so many kids, most women would just want to stop. And clever use of a clay bowl to do it. While the guys are away (hunting, chopping wood, going out to buy stuff, etc.), smash the bowl, other women hear it, get the message loud and clear to help, inform the local healer who can bring preventatives, the bowl's remains are put back under the house (since the husband probably isn't going to check there every day), and when she stops having kids, she can insist he check the bowl, they find it broken, and then she can blame Lilith while excersizing bodily autonomy. Clever.
@@NoAIStudios who demands obedience?
I'm so glad to come across this channel. Can't wait for the incantation bowls video
Each show gets better than the last! I can’t wait for the next episode, thank you for your hard work on this fascinating channel! 🙏🏻
Great job, per usual, Dr Sledge 👏
I love how she ghosted Adam for being too vanilla
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@@T.me.up.A 😆😆😆
Bruh! LOL
Thanks! I love the way you teach - you make me want to dig deeper. And your sense of humor while teaching makes learning fun. Keep it up!
I'm just realizing this may be where they got the name Leeloo for the main character in the movie The Fifth Element which gives that character a whole new context.
I just found your channel. What I find fascinating about it, outside of the subject matters, is it your reliance on historical text without giving your own religious views. This is very commendable. And note in my own religion, Roman Catholic, I'm considered very religious. But when you're looking at history, especially manuscript history, you must be able to divorce yourself from your own feelings and you do this wonderfully. I look forward to many more of your videos. I also like that you use BCE and CE. I was first introduced to those two terms many many years ago in a PBS series called mysteries of the Bible which was narrated by Jane Seymour and featured Jewish scholars and Roman Catholic scholars etc. They also approached subjects the way you do, by looking at what is written, and also of course, we must look at oral histories, as they were the forerunners of written history.
First of all I’m here to thank you, Dr. Sledge, for you high quality work, the fascinating insights and your fantastic sense of humour which makes all of that even more enjoyable.
Lately I’ve been very intrigued by the figure of Kali, the indu goddess, so if ever you would consider dig a little bit on the subject, I would be looking forward to it!
He may or may not respond, for a myriad of possible reasons. I will try to explain it the way I understand it. Alternative understandings exist.
Shiva, the Destroyer of the World, lives in the Himalayas. His consort is Parvati.
[him means cold, alay means abode, himalaya means the abode of cold, wherefrom Himalaya, the proper noun for the mountains, and mountain means parvat, where from Parvati, the proper noun for Shiva’s consort]
Now, Parvati is one individual goddess, and she represents every woman. In her normal calm condition, she is Parvati. However, she can play two violent roles, as Durga and Kali.
As Durga, she fights against evil to protect the innocents.
As Kali, she fights against the innocent.
In her role as Kali, she is depicted as scantily clad, carrying out atrocities on her victims. She goes out of control, and goes on a rampage. Shiva, then lays on her path, causing her to accidentally step on Shiva.
Seeing that she stepped on her husband, she is embarrassed, and sticks her tongue out.
Etymologically, Kali symbolizes Kali Yuga. Kaal means time. It can also mean bad times. The negative behaviour of Kali may be interpreted as a time will come, when women is society will go out of control, and go on a destructive rampage, when men might have to step in to bring things under control.
These are some of my favorite episodes, following a character development across texts and traditions.
I'd also be interested to see episodes about some of the mystics, prophets and more "human" characters, like the one who shot lasers from his eyes. I'm here for the academic study of Esoterica and I dig a deep dive, but this more nearly narrative approach is easily consumable on days when I have less mental energy but still want to learn something new.
Keep up the great work!
Edit: Wearing my Clerical Necromantic Underground shirt recently gets great reactions.
Thank you so much for this video! I’m writing a fantasy book based on Lilith’s mythology and so this was very helpful. Can’t wait to watch more!
As an atheist and huge fan of old Greek and Norse mythology, its nice to learn the mythologies of the religions I used to believe, now the literature and lore intrigues me, awesome research.
That was a wonder and interesting video. Lilith origin is so much more muddled than I thought it was. It truly is one big puzzle and we're missing several piece but it's fun speculating on what is missing. I'm really looking forward to the second part, the kabbalistic Lilith is for me even more fascinating. I'm also eagerly awaiting the video on the incantation bowls. (when you have the time to make it. You must have a whole long list on topics you're working on.) There so interesting but I don't know nearly enough on them than I would like. Thank for the always thought provoking videos!
I saw the Burney "Queen of the Night" relief depicted in the thumbnail in person recently, it's currently on display at the National Museum of Australia in Canberra. It's described there as depicting the Mesopotamian goddess Ishtar/Inanna, with the horned crown and the rod-and-ring symbol which both represent Mesopotamian royalty. It's often referred to as representing Lilith, possibly due to Ishtar/Inanna having bird feet in the relief, which is now more thought to represent a period of time when Ishtar/Inanna in Mesopotamian mythology descended to the underworld to challenge her sister. There is still widespread confusion about the relief depicting Lilith, if you Google Lilith the Ishtar/Inanna relief is still one of the main and more reputable seeming images that comes up.
I was also watching some presentations online by Dr Irving Finkel just yesterday (who is a curator at the British Museum in London and specialises in this area of study) and I learned more about Pazuzu and another "demon" called Lamashtu. Lamashtu was the female demonic entity associated at the time with the attacks on babies, children and pregnant women that Lilith is associated with, and Pazuzu was the benevolent entity who would protect those women and children against Lamashtu. I'm wondering if along the line somewhere the Lilith and Lamashtu storylines became enmeshed, as Lamashtu was also turned into what she became as a punishment. Perhaps the Lilith narrative evolved from it over time. Dr Finkel said that in his opinion the negative depictions of Pazuzu that have evolved over the years (he blames the Exorcist movies for a lot of it) is "nothing short of slander", lol. Poor old Pazuzu.
Thanks! Finally, an academic treatment of a fascinating topic!
Can't believe I'm just now finding this channel, Great stuff!
great video again my dude, this is forever one of the most interesting areas of study of the Ancient-Occultism/Linguistic crossovers
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Seems reminiscent of the Yoginis from Hindu mythology, figures who represent the wild and hidden lineages of Yoga: "We find a reference to the Kritika constellation, in the Rig Veda. They are identified as seven sisters. In Puranic mythology, Kritikas are identified as wet nurses to the son of Shiva and Shakti, known as Murugan in Tamil tradition. Because they took care of him, he is also known as Kartikeya. Now, the Kritikas have an interesting story. They were seven sisters married to seven brothers.
The seven brothers were the Sapta Rishis which forms the Big Dipper constellation that can be seen in the Northern sky, near the Pole Star. The seven sages and their wives lived together, until one day the Sapta Rishis accused six of the sisters of infidelity-by saying they preferred the love of Agni-and betraying the vows of marriage. They were thrown out of the house. Only one of the seven sisters remained with the seven stars. This star is Alkor or Arundhati. The remaining six moved away from them towards the eastern horizon to form the Pleiades Constellation.
These Kritika stars are considered to be ferocious goddesses who cause miscarriages in women or measles in newborns, unless they are worshipped as caretakers of Kartikeya, rather than as abandoned wives of the seven sages." - Devdutt Pattanai
ESOTERICA I thought I should mention this that the legends per se about “Lilith/Ashera/Ishtar/Lamastu/etc” reminds me of the origins of the “ASWANG” from the Philippines 🇵🇭 so this was something extra and interesting X 😎👍🏻🙌🏻✨💎✨❤️❤️❤️
Lilith doesn't seem to be Ishtar . More like a modern independent woman . Ishtar is 100% demon .
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Brilliant video. Just stumbled on your channel (and now realize I have much to catch up on 😊). Truly fascinating and well presented. As a Catholic in recovery (like an alcoholic, one is never fully cured once the damage has been done), so I don't consider myself religious, but have always been fascinated how the legends and lore of all religions came into being. My appreciation here, is that you never rely on just one source religion, but many in attempt to give more complete picture. Lilith has always captured my imagination, probably because so much of her story is a mystery. She seems to be almost a footnote anywhere she's referenced and quickly glossed over in any sort of story. Thank you for this wonderful and comprehensive look into her origins and beyond. Awesome job and keep up the great work. Much thanks.
love your breakdowns of how these tales evolve over cultures and time. parallels are undeniable and just make sense. lily white lillith and the lambia, genesis “the lamb lies down on broadway“
Followed a suggestion from Jimmy, the Welsh Viking channel, and instantly subscribed. Looking forward to exploring videos here.
Thanks for this episode. So many texts & lore about this possible one character dating back a long time ago. This may clear up some things for some people.
I'm more interested in the Mesopotamian mythologies that inspired Lilith's creation down the road. I do wish Hollywood would do horror movies that focus on Sumerian Demons that do not involve an exorcism of any kind.
I love how there is a sort of 'Ur-Lillith'that has emerged through Mesopotamian and Sumerian and Talmudic texts - even before her contemporary adoption within a Christianised secular West as a feminist icon. The Lillith portrayed in Pre-Raphaelite paintings is so far removed from those described in the epic of Gilgamesh, yet there is a consistent through-line of a terror of 'deviant' female sexuality. Thank you. I look forward to watching the sequel.
Dude, so glad this came up in my suggestions. Was looking for information on here a few years back and could barely find anything on her history.
I just recently discovered this channel and really enjoy the thorough and objective discussion of topics. I grew up with a mother who kind of mixed up various priciples of esotericism into one incomprehesible clutter of utter hogwash 😑 This channel helps me to unterstand where certain names and principles originally came from, and what they really mean historically. I also really enjoy your subtle sense of humor, your jokes really make me laugh every time! 😆
I have done some studying on Lilith and her origin and have written a book about her any idea of the rebellious wife of Adam as a horror book. I enjoy your post and find it to be accurate to what I have studied as well. Can't wait for more posts on Lilith and your second part.
You are one HELL of a researcher 😮 Fascinating, as Qabalah student for two decades, you regularly surprise me with new information and a fantastic presentation. Thank you!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Fantastic Information! Great Job!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 🤗Thanks!
I've learned to save all your lessons but this one was one I've needed most. Thank you.
I’ve always been obsessed with Lilith…
First time I heard her story I cried. FOR her.
U are very haunted
@@jae3276 Nah…
Maybe.
Either way, maybe I just have the ability to see things from many different points of view. How terrible must it be to have been made by God, Alongside Adam, as an EQUAL, made NOT of his rib but of the SAME CLAY, just to be shunned because even though you were Supposed to be EQUAL, you refused to SUBMIT to Adam.
Then, after you flee the garden, 3 Angels are sent to find you..and they Do find you, alone by the Red Sea. They strike a deal with you sent by your oh so merciful Father:
1) Return to The Garden and Submit to Adam (even though you Are technically equal aka: made of the same clay)
2) Do NOT Return to the Garden and live the rest of your immortal life as a Demon, and have 100 of your children murdered every day.
Those were her choices.
She still chose independence. I probably would have too, if I had just realized the cruelty that my Father was capable of, and how conditional His love was, and how Favored Adam clearly was.
This is why when God created Eve, he used one if Adams ribs instead of the same clay, so that she would have to be subservient to him.
Lilith isn’t mentioned in the KJ Bible by name. She’s basically erased from history. But if you want to learn more about her real story in the Bible, look to Jewish history.
That was absolutely fantastic.
Thank you for everything you share with the world.
When I first started to research her it was very hard to find exactly where does it say that? In what text, in what tradition etc.
You are so thorough and informative.
This is potentially the best video on the history of lillith ive seen so far.
the lilith in the bowl looks so much like a female where's waldo character, it's uncanny. could also be from a novelty cereal bowl line, which I'd buy in a heartbeat now that i think about it.
I know they're supposed to be mythical creatures, but the artist surely have seen real people, right? What's with the potato bodies and squiggly arms, in the Waldo shirt you mention?
Easily one of the best channels on this site. Thanks for another deep dive into a fascinating topic.
I never thought that I would ever hear such an academic "who's gonna be on top" debate lol thanks Dr. Sledge!
"well they go off into a field and things don't go so well...for able..." lol no they did not XD
This is so extremely fascinating! But that part you mentioned where Adam has other types of Offspring, I find it particularly interesting since I've always interpreted the creation story as a fabled version of evolution. And we now know that there were actually several types of hominids and that a lot of them interbred. So part of me can't help but wonder if those things were actually demons per se, but other hominids that would have come from the original branch that produced homosapiens. Just so much to think about that will never really know!
also love "female autonomy, a subject that still strikes fear into basic bros everywhere"
I once went to a church where a so called (demonalogist) was casting out demons & said I had the "Spirit of Lilith". Oh well, I guess I do. 🤷♀️🦉🍎
23:19 very interesting , I wonder if there’s any connection with the Eastern Orthodox Church’s tradition of waiting 8 days after birth to baptize the newborn.
Hebrew Bible laws
@@TheEsotericaChannelThat would also make sense
Sir. Your videos are a breath of fresh informative air. Completely objective and unbiased and your humor is great. Female autonomy being the terror of basic bros everywhere is a hilariously golden statement that I am going to propagate whenever possible moving forward.
I love your sense of humor! It lent so much light to heavy intellectual subjects and kept me engaged. This is the first video of yours I've watched and you've earned my subscription.
This channel is God send!!! This one and the Lady of the Library are becoming my new favorites and most likely to stay at the top of my list 4ever. Thank you, thank you, thank you🕊️📚💪
It always boggles my mind, the sort of archaeological timescales involved when dealing with the earliest found artifacts, how so little survives to reach us, that moving from one chapter to the next could mean a timeskip of a millennium or more, and then to think how much human life fits into those spaces, just plodding along at its own pace, you make an incantation bowl, you bury it, then you go and feed the animals, do your laundry...
This made me smile. There has always been laundry to do. 😄
"Pazuzu save me from persistent stains..."
Great, very interesting video! If possible, in the next video, maybe you could mention if Lilith has anything to do with the Hindu Goddess Lalita. The two names are too similar for it to be a coincidence. However, in Hinduism, Lalita has always been a very beautiful, sensuous Hindu Goddess and never considered evil or a demoness.
Very interesting comment.
The way you described Lilith resonates so well with our modern reality, this was a great watch
I'm just so happy I found this channel. Thank you, and greatings from Brazil!
I'm so glad this account came across the new to me section. I've found my community 🙌 ♥️
I love your channel so much, thanks for another deeply informative episode, and for your charming and charismatic commentary as well.
This is amazing, I do have one request! Can you please include more references in the video to the texts you are referencing? I can often find them, but would love if you had links to them at least.
It's nice that the owners of the bowl shown let thier children draw the demon in the centre.
The name of this channel alone deserves a subscribe!
What a cool fucking episode. You've got an amazing channel, man. I'm a nontheistic agnostic, but I have great love for the academic study of religion (I focused on linguistic anthropology, but also anthro of religion/magic/witchcraft).
You have such wonderful and digestible episodes. You're doing a fantastic job, and I can't wait to dig into all your content.