What You Missed About Rebecca and Mother | Edens Zero Discussion

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  • @ShonenOuji
    @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What are your theories about Rebecca's origins? How do you think she is connected to Mother?

  • @aico9074
    @aico9074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I’m really hoping for a new rebecca arc, making it more in-depth about who she really is, and maybe a chance for her to show off

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A Rebecca-centered arc would be heavenly.

  • @partyjams
    @partyjams 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    An interesting theory. It is suspicious that Rebecca has an Ether Gear without training. I feel like the reason for it, especially if it’s from mother who is above time itself, might be because Rebecca & Shiki would eventually cross paths. Almost like a gift or protector.
    I think one of the leading theories I’d that Rebecca will become a chronophage in time (as seen with that flash forward thousands of years into the future where her B cube was near a Chronophage). If that were the case we either would see other cat leapers or there was only ever one Chronophage that would eventually become her. Based on what we know from Noah & Xiaomei, seems unlikely other cat leapers exist. Which is kinda strange that only one counter force is in place (unless they are trying to minimize time anomalies).
    Tbh I don’t feel like I have enough information to put this one together quiet yet. But I’m hoping after or during this arc Ziggy will drop some more crucial information.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! And I never even considered it but this is a great idea, especially considering the chronophages are more of a force of nature than good or evil.

    • @ayameackerman5257
      @ayameackerman5257 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love this theory. But about the chronophages being other cat leapers what if they are born every time rebecca uses cat leaper

  • @rebeccarichar4091
    @rebeccarichar4091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    One thing to consider is that Xenolith seems to imply that Shiki (or some other Gravity user) pulled Rebecca from the future. In chapter 125, when Xenolith is explaining the "true power" of gravity to Shiki, he says that it can "sometimes attract a young woman from the future" and, in chapter 132, he calls Rebecca "girl captivated by gravity." That might have something to do with how/why Rebecca got that power. Or, her power might explain why she, specifically, was pulled.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember the last part, but I had no idea Xenolith said all that about pulling someone from the future. Definitely gotta go back and reread that.

  • @ez_overdrive8026
    @ez_overdrive8026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What if, the crew we're following right now isn't the original timeline, and Ziggy said Shiki is the one who will destroy the Cosmoses. What if, the original Shiki went demonic and destroyed the universe but the original Rebecca reached Mother, then she wished to turn back time and Mother gave her the cat leaper powers which explains why she already have this power at such a young age. But those who reached Mother will be 'reborn' right? I think in Rebecca's case, she was rather 'reincarnated' in another timeline and lost her memories of her past life. Idk, that's all i could think about😖. When people ask me, "if i have the power to turn back time, what will i do?", i will say i will undo some of my past's mistakes. So Rebecca could have been born with a different ether gear but why cat leaper? Is she trying to undo something in the past? Also, do you remember that conversation with Homura, that they bathed in the edens spa for the first time, Homura asked her what kind of ether gear would she like, and rebecca answered, something like auto aim. I hope I don't sound dumb😭 im just rambling things im so sorry😔

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not at all, this was more than coherent. In fact, I think it’s very likely that this is how Rebecca got her power. The scene where she says she’d like to have auto aim actually suggests that time travel wouldn’t be her first request, meaning she must have wished for time travel for an important reason.

    • @ez_overdrive8026
      @ez_overdrive8026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShonenOuji yes i actually wanna add that part but i deleted it

    • @Orange-qm2kz
      @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Waaaaahh interesting

  • @moolcazy3805
    @moolcazy3805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Another possibility is that Rebecca might of learnt ether gear wayyyyy in the future in another timeline/universe
    But couldn't properly control it and accidentally sent herself to the past
    Or a something happened and she needed to time travel
    But lost her memories in the process and went back to the time she was a kid
    It's unlikely this happened but its still possible

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I like this theory a lot actually. Timelines are obviously a big part of the story, so I can see this playing out one way or another.

    • @superdude4464
      @superdude4464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooooh this theory is giving me BIG rave master vibes and I’m digging it

    • @moolcazy3805
      @moolcazy3805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superdude4464
      Haven't read or watched rave master yet but I'm planning to

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superdude4464 For sure. In some ways Rebecca reminds me of Elie, especially considering how important their powers seem to be to the story.

  • @XtianJovic
    @XtianJovic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's this JRPG I played back in PS1, Lunar Silver Star Story. Try searching it. The goddess there was reborn into a mortal named Luna. Maybe it's similar here in Eden's Zero.

  • @nathanielsmith6571
    @nathanielsmith6571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is just a theory but what if mother as a failsafe incase someone tried to take her powers reincarnated as or gave her powers to rebecca?

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like a reasonable possibility if you ask me.

  • @KDB349
    @KDB349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, I’m still very much confused on Rebecca’s abilities, then again I never really understood time Shenanigans. I followed everything up until the different worlds but when Mashima started including different universes and the fact that Rebecca always had Cat Leaper it became a lot more difficult. If she always had Cat Leaper then what exactly did the spa do? Make it easier for her to control? In regards to Shiki I definitely believe he’s a descendant of Mother, with Rebecca it’s really hard to tell. She’s shrouded in a lot of mystery.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Mashima is hiding that info on purpose. My understanding is this: Rebecca always had the latent ability to use Cat Leaper, but she didn’t have the capacity to wield her Ether at will until much later.

  • @Orange-qm2kz
    @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My Theory is that Rebecca always had her ether gear when she was a child and has been training with it for quite some time (since she timeleaps unconsciously when she was a kid) and something happened that made her end up to bluegarden (or she just suddenly showed up in bluegarden maybe she wished for it when she MAYBE met mother in the future). She also said it herself that she THINKS she might have been abandoned as well and has no recollection of her parents at all, means she might've just lost her memories at some point and just came to senses that she's alone and just by herself. If she was alone from the very start and no one took care of her she couldn't possibly survive (since shes still an infant).

    • @Orange-qm2kz
      @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd love a Rebecca Arc🤧

    • @Orange-qm2kz
      @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Annd she learned her ether gear from some kind of ancient clan (?😆) From a planet hardly seen by people and shes from a family who meddle with time. And then ya know some greedy peeps found out about the planet that they reside then Rebecca had to evacuate on her own, had a bit of an accident causing her to end up in bluegarden and losing her memories on the process.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Orange-qm2kz I like this theory a lot, and it would be a good way to extend the story. My only concern is Master Noah. Noah can follow everything in the universe, and he’s older than Rebecca. If she’s from somewhere else or has been using Cat Leaper this long than he would know about it. I also can’t see why he would hold out on this info.

    • @Orange-qm2kz
      @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShonenOuji yeah that concerned me too but as far as I currently know is Noah can follow the timelines where Rebecca makes time leaps then she might've just showed up on that planet from a different timeline. (Lmao I don't make much sense trying to cover plotholes in theories but it's fun😆)

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Orange-qm2kz Not at all. You make plenty of sense. There’s just a lot to consider with a theory like this. Definitely going to keep this one in the back of my mind as new chapters come out.

  • @teannadyer5010
    @teannadyer5010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if Rebecca is Mother?

  • @Artemis_Astra1
    @Artemis_Astra1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think that mother is Rebecca's mom .

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Might just be the case.

  • @CDHfilms
    @CDHfilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With any luck, she might become Shiki's "Demon Queen" LOLZ

  • @israeldavila5073
    @israeldavila5073 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think shik is mother's child only makes sense

  • @humaymahyaser74
    @humaymahyaser74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only watched the series and I don't really know her powers that well

  • @devino125
    @devino125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video man two things that kinda irks me personally about the way Rebecca is written is the way she gained her ether gear the powers themselves and her development like during the time skip she becomes a famous b cuber which means she didn't really have to achieve her goal cause we don't see her putting in the work to see her become famous.I was personally hopping for seeing Labilla compete with Rebecca but they kinda just dropped her and she's nice now so much for that.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And fair enough. I will say that we did see signs of how she was learning and growing during the timeskip. It wasn’t likely it just magically happened. Also, while she is popular as a rookie, I believe she’s still a relatively small channel.

  • @ez_overdrive8026
    @ez_overdrive8026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also, I think Rebecca and Master Noah are sibling, i mean, same hair color, and both ether gears are related to time. Is it just coincidence?

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Could be. But Noah and Feather could be siblings too by that logic. It’s reasonable enough though.

    • @Orange-qm2kz
      @Orange-qm2kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what I first thought too but suddenly Noah's hair color turned yellow blonde and I originally saw his hair color colored the same as Rebecca's and ya know at first when Noah seemed to know a lot particularly to Rebecca and is just keeping some a secret

  • @TeamNurshajid
    @TeamNurshajid ปีที่แล้ว

    Rebecca got her ether gear drom her mother ig??

  • @proceratogam7734
    @proceratogam7734 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fairy tale and edens zero is connected

  • @KingMidgardsormr
    @KingMidgardsormr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing you got wrong. No android uses ether gear.
    They all use ether optimization.
    Ether gear is same thing as ether optimization it's just that androids naturally have the ability by virtue of being a machine. Hence it being ether optimization rather than ether gear.

    • @ShonenOuji
      @ShonenOuji  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure how accurate this is. As far as I've seen, only the 4 Shining Stars use Ether Optimization. That's what was explicitly mentioned in Sister's fight. To my knowledge, it hasn't been stated that this is how Xenolith or Ziggy use their abilities. If you can find any chapters that say otherwise then I can look into it for clarification.

  • @DeathWishVevo
    @DeathWishVevo ปีที่แล้ว

    Eden zero mother or Maza is actual Babel Babylon from the bible