Vinnie Moore is the best all round rock player in the world. From neo classical, to straight out rock, to jazzy funk, no one phrases as well as he does. He can play like Satriani, Holdsworth, Malmsteen, and more. He truly is a living god. He and Becker are the greatest shredders of all time.
@@jethrokeys1438 Yeah he is very good too. I didnt mention Joe Stump, or Tony McAlpine either, he he, but I still reckon Vinnie is the best all rounder I've heard.
@@Chris741113 I like the fact that he has transitioned through various styles. A small percentage of great players do this, and it shows they are curious and exploring. Even The Stones, Hendrix and Led Zeppelin did this. A player who just churns out the same style over and over usually only produces a handful of quality albums. Hearing his string control at work when he plays the slower stuff is beautiful - the slurring, volume swells, bends, vibrato, tapping all done in his unique "clean" phrasing with that really great tone he has developed. I can recommend Mystified from Soul Shifter.
I just want to say that vinnie can play everything as good as paul gilbert , batio, petruzzi etc, even more, i think his technique is much better that some of these good guitar players. he plays really clean, fast and effortly. Few can play that fine.
Been awhile since I've heard Vinnie Moore, used to listen to Mind's Eye all the time and seeing this guy play is nuts. Would give my lower left leg to sweep pick like that.
Yngwie was NOT the first hard rock neoclassical player, you forgot about Randy Rhoads. But Randy would only realize about 70% of his potential before his untimely death. and before that, it was Al Di Meola and John McLaughlin, and waaaay before that, Jimmy Bryant was shredding just as hard as anyone today.
Good point... Sam Andrew of Big Brother and the Holding Company was also doing cool classically influenced stuff back in the late 1960s. Love his pedal point solo in "Summertime".
First of all, it has to be music, not a competition. Shred turned the art of guitar into a sport. So, you'd have to prove to me that he was actually playing real music instead of going in with a athletic mentality before you could convince me that he was a real musician. When you get to a certain age, you figure out that better is better. Louder is not better. Faster is not better. Harder is not better. Better is better.
this guy got some super legato going on! When i think about it, someething most of the great rock players share, are they got some great legato playing :D
Whatever. Uli Roth was playing extremely primitive stuff. Al Di Meola was playing circles around him back in the early '70s. And Roth was still light years behind players like Frank Marino and Neal Schon. "Faster and more aggression" does not mean better. And the instant you said that, I knew I was dealing with a 12 year old.
Vinman is a guitar god. I mean who writes better guitar instramental's than him? (if you say Vai, your wrong)...also this clip is in the 80's imagine how good is 20 years of practice later on his custom super dean.
I hesitate to write this, but I really don't like his tone. It's too shrill. I would think some nice chorus and a touch of reverb would help. Plus, he should turn his treble down a tad. He's a great player, far faster and more technical than myself, but I just find that tone to get annoying after a few seconds.
You are full of it,yngwie was playing neoclassical stuff when Randy was still in Quiet riot.Yngwie wasnt well known then apart fom the demo tapes that circulated on the college radiostations but his style and direction was there.Randy's playing at that time didnt even hint of any classical influences whatsoever.
Apart from that Uli Roth was well ahead of both of them,yngwie ripped a lot of his style from Uli but developed it further and played faster with more aggression
Really? He has written some of the most killer riffs ever (See Minds Eye). I find his compositional skills outstanding. Most songs seem to have three parts. Listen to Hero without Honour.
I don't think he is underrated. Everyone knows he is tehncially amazing but as a composer he could never stand out amongst the other guitar heavyweights (so to speak)
Vinnie Moore is technically pretty decent. But his musical ideas are not that complex. It's scales and patterns, which are very simple. Sounds like you need to listen to John Coltrane or Charlie Parker, because only then will you truly understand what complex music is. You have no concept, because to you complex = fast. This is fast, but not complex. It's not about fretboard knowledge, it's about transcending it all and making innovative music, not about who's fastest.
You keep contradicting yourself,Di meola is mainly a Jazz/fusion guitarist with latin influences and while he surely influenced a lot of guitarists you are dreaming if you think that Al Di Meola is the father of neoclassical guitar.And no i'm not 12,i see here that its your standard retort for anyone not agreeing with you.How quaint...
You're full of it. Yngwie didn't invent any new techniques AT ALL. Speed picking? Nope, DiMeola and Jimmy Bryant did that way before Yngwie. Sweep arpeggios? Nope... Chet Atkins was doing that in the early '70s. Tapping? Van Halen had all that down years before Yngwie. All Yngwie did was STEAL melodic ideas from Paganini and Bach and play them in a heavy rock context. He didn't create any new techniques AT ALL. Randy Rhoads was the first true neoclassical player.
See,you cant even stay within the same discussion,i had issues with you claming that Randy Rhoads played neoclassical guitar before yngwie did and now you bring out al di meola frank marino and neal schon ? What the hell do they have to do with neoclassical guitarplaying ? Zero zilch and fucking nada.Theyre good players all of them but they do NOT belong in a discussion about neoclassical guitarplayers.
You have turned this into some stupid competition between Yngwie and Randy Rhoads. The truth is Rhoads was the first neoclassical player. If you think Yngwie is "better", you certainly have a problem with perception. Yngwie's solos are not only forgettable, they lack the breadth of expression that Randy Rhoads had. You must absolutely be JUST a shred player, because you oddly think they are the best around. But you'd be completely wrong. Again.
You even call some people 9 year olds,if thats how you wiew the world around you i bet that youre surrounded by 9-12 year olds because i can't see anyone in the right mind agreeing with anything you say.
You're just being evasive and trying to change the subject. Prove that you know something.... ANYTHING... about complex music. Everyone is waiting. The ball is still in your court. Stop dodging the issue. Be a man already.
Again,that is a matter of opinion and as those go i don't lend any importance to yours.You sir are a broken record,repeating the same phrases every time over and over doesn't make it truth.What about Frank Marino and Neal Schon then ? Why did you mention them ? Neal Schon has never been considered a neoclassical guitarist and the same goes for Frank Marino .When you constantly offer misinformation,facts that you make up yourself how can anyone belive anything you say ?
I still put his Mind's Eye album as top 3 ever , For me it is Yngwie's Rising Force , Vinnie Moore's Mind's Eye an Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn..
Vinnie Moore's Time Odyssey
Tony mcalpine's edge of Insanity
Vinnie Moore is the best all round rock player in the world. From neo classical, to straight out rock, to jazzy funk, no one phrases as well as he does. He can play like Satriani, Holdsworth, Malmsteen, and more. He truly is a living god. He and Becker are the greatest shredders of all time.
He was. He's turned into a bluesy old fart now
@@Chris741113 Literally was going to say the same thing, I noticed that now he doesn't play like this and I don't know why.... These are tasty chops.
Don't forget Shawn lane my friend!
@@jethrokeys1438 Yeah he is very good too. I didnt mention Joe Stump, or Tony McAlpine either, he he, but I still reckon Vinnie is the best all rounder I've heard.
@@Chris741113 I like the fact that he has transitioned through various styles. A small percentage of great players do this, and it shows they are curious and exploring. Even The Stones, Hendrix and Led Zeppelin did this. A player who just churns out the same style over and over usually only produces a handful of quality albums. Hearing his string control at work when he plays the slower stuff is beautiful - the slurring, volume swells, bends, vibrato, tapping all done in his unique "clean" phrasing with that really great tone he has developed. I can recommend Mystified from Soul Shifter.
Still one of my favorite players even after all these years. Some of the shrapnel guys could really bring it.
probably one of the cleanest pickers of all time
Ozzy should of had him somewhere in his line up of guitars gunslingers.
I just want to say that vinnie can play everything as good as paul gilbert , batio, petruzzi etc, even more, i think his technique is much better that some of these good guitar players. he plays really clean, fast and effortly. Few can play that fine.
He was simply out of this world!!!!!!!!!!
Been awhile since I've heard Vinnie Moore, used to listen to Mind's Eye all the time and seeing this guy play is nuts. Would give my lower left leg to sweep pick like that.
Wow, he can play forever... I'd give all my internal organs for his skills.
Yngwie was NOT the first hard rock neoclassical player, you forgot about Randy Rhoads. But Randy would only realize about 70% of his potential before his untimely death. and before that, it was Al Di Meola and John McLaughlin, and waaaay before that, Jimmy Bryant was shredding just as hard as anyone today.
Good point... Sam Andrew of Big Brother and the Holding Company was also doing cool classically influenced stuff back in the late 1960s. Love his pedal point solo in "Summertime".
Amazingly accurate and clean playing!
So much nicer to listen to than Yngwie.
I was lucky enough to walk into a record store and buy a Vinnie Record never went wrong there
Vinnie Moor, Marshall Harrison and more..!
He's my cousin :)
but did you get any of his talent?
First of all, it has to be music, not a competition. Shred turned the art of guitar into a sport. So, you'd have to prove to me that he was actually playing real music instead of going in with a athletic mentality before you could convince me that he was a real musician. When you get to a certain age, you figure out that better is better. Louder is not better. Faster is not better. Harder is not better. Better is better.
clean like a cristal
The best parts involved pedal points...
simply amazing....imagine how many yrs it took him to learn all those techniques, and styles, speed, damn.....keep practicing...
the finest!
Eat that, 90's!!!
Apples to oranges from Satch to Moore. Both are unbelieveable. Eric Johnson, petrucci as well.
this guy got some super legato going on!
When i think about it, someething most of the great rock players share, are they got some great legato playing :D
clean, beautiful, perfect
Meltdown will melt your face and Vicious Rumors !!
Vinnie and Vai are "Arguably" the absolute smoothest at incredibly fast playing.
Whatever. Uli Roth was playing extremely primitive stuff. Al Di Meola was playing circles around him back in the early '70s. And Roth was still light years behind players like Frank Marino and Neal Schon. "Faster and more aggression" does not mean better. And the instant you said that, I knew I was dealing with a 12 year old.
0:25 - 0:33, the sweetest thing ive ever fuckin heard in my life!
totally agree man!! thats the diference for example with impelliteri
Advanced fast hand finger wizard masterclass!
amen
This is fucking crazy!
killer solo ... what model ibanez?
Vinman is a guitar god. I mean who writes better guitar instramental's than him? (if you say Vai, your wrong)...also this clip is in the 80's imagine how good is 20 years of practice later on his custom super dean.
Scary!!!
He is so fucking good..
gonna see him 16feb in europe........
wow...fast n clean most importantly...vinnie is great but underrated..
I like this tone... ):
I wouldn't be able to recognize myself if I played like that.
AMAZING!
I hesitate to write this, but I really don't like his tone. It's too shrill. I would think some nice chorus and a touch of reverb would help. Plus, he should turn his treble down a tad. He's a great player, far faster and more technical than myself, but I just find that tone to get annoying after a few seconds.
pretty killer unaccompanied solo
you know it :) vinnie rocks
@zackvanhalen probably is a little trebley but i think the quality of the upload has alot to do with it. and the fact its an old video
How does he get that excellent sounds from his pick attack? Is that an overdrive pedal?
o shit youtube throwdown!
@amccoll20893 Right up until 1:40... :) Kidding, I completely agree.
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
You are full of it,yngwie was playing neoclassical stuff when Randy was still in Quiet riot.Yngwie wasnt well known then apart fom the demo tapes that circulated on the college radiostations but his style and direction was there.Randy's playing at that time didnt even hint of any classical influences whatsoever.
Apart from that Uli Roth was well ahead of both of them,yngwie ripped a lot of his style from Uli but developed it further and played faster with more aggression
being so technically amazing i think its hard for him NOT to write 'good' music but for me as a songwriter he doesn't do much for me (just opinion)
Really? He has written some of the most killer riffs ever (See Minds Eye). I find his compositional skills outstanding. Most songs seem to have three parts. Listen to Hero without Honour.
@nothinghappens1 That wasn't supposed to be literal...
i really cant beleive i just read like 300 comments of a bunch of people arguing. i gotta get out more
Idd,thats true
he is very handsome
k im takin up the oboe
satriani blows them all away!
wat is this a world where paul gilbert was reincarnated with feeling? jk.
More like speedhacks!
I don't think he is underrated. Everyone knows he is tehncially amazing but as a composer he could never stand out amongst the other guitar heavyweights (so to speak)
are u saying he doesnt write good music?
he could collapse the building if he had steve vai's guitar
Vinnie Moore is technically pretty decent. But his musical ideas are not that complex. It's scales and patterns, which are very simple. Sounds like you need to listen to John Coltrane or Charlie Parker, because only then will you truly understand what complex music is. You have no concept, because to you complex = fast. This is fast, but not complex. It's not about fretboard knowledge, it's about transcending it all and making innovative music, not about who's fastest.
ES CAMARON DE LA ISLA XDDD
mouth miuth mouth
Shred Guitar Haters are actually just really bad guitar players in general, cause if they could do it you wouldnt hear a peep from them!
@franki182 XD
You keep contradicting yourself,Di meola is mainly a Jazz/fusion guitarist with latin influences and while he surely influenced a lot of guitarists you are dreaming if you think that Al Di Meola is the father of neoclassical guitar.And no i'm not 12,i see here that its your standard retort for anyone not agreeing with you.How quaint...
Erm he was talented....
BRAINS,,,
OMG...i think im in love...2 bad gay marriage just got banned in cali lol
He needs to add some harmonics etc
fuck...
Suuure... You said "played faster with more aggression..." as if it was BETTER. Guess you can't even read your own post.
You're full of it. Yngwie didn't invent any new techniques AT ALL. Speed picking? Nope, DiMeola and Jimmy Bryant did that way before Yngwie. Sweep arpeggios? Nope... Chet Atkins was doing that in the early '70s. Tapping? Van Halen had all that down years before Yngwie. All Yngwie did was STEAL melodic ideas from Paganini and Bach and play them in a heavy rock context. He didn't create any new techniques AT ALL. Randy Rhoads was the first true neoclassical player.
See,you cant even stay within the same discussion,i had issues with you claming that Randy Rhoads played neoclassical guitar before yngwie did and now you bring out al di meola frank marino and neal schon ? What the hell do they have to do with neoclassical guitarplaying ? Zero zilch and fucking nada.Theyre good players all of them but they do NOT belong in a discussion about neoclassical guitarplayers.
You have turned this into some stupid competition between Yngwie and Randy Rhoads. The truth is Rhoads was the first neoclassical player. If you think Yngwie is "better", you certainly have a problem with perception. Yngwie's solos are not only forgettable, they lack the breadth of expression that Randy Rhoads had. You must absolutely be JUST a shred player, because you oddly think they are the best around. But you'd be completely wrong. Again.
You even call some people 9 year olds,if thats how you wiew the world around you i bet that youre surrounded by 9-12 year olds because i can't see anyone in the right mind agreeing with anything you say.
You're just being evasive and trying to change the subject. Prove that you know something.... ANYTHING... about complex music. Everyone is waiting. The ball is still in your court. Stop dodging the issue. Be a man already.
Again,that is a matter of opinion and as those go i don't lend any importance to yours.You sir are a broken record,repeating the same phrases every time over and over doesn't make it truth.What about Frank Marino and Neal Schon then ? Why did you mention them ? Neal Schon has never been considered a neoclassical guitarist and the same goes for Frank Marino .When you constantly offer misinformation,facts that you make up yourself how can anyone belive anything you say ?
You are not making sense. And you have a lot of growing up to do.
Yngwie??!
WHO?!?!
Vinnie Moore is far better!