Blizzard Should Be Ashamed of Diablo Immortal...
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Diablo Immortal has finally released in the majority of the gaming world and surprisingly being a mobile game is filled with microtransactions. However it seems some of these transactions don't appear to be as micro as you would think. Thanks for watching!
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“It will get worse” should be Blizzard’s motto at this point.
They took that motto to heart once they merged with Activision.
They think PC gamers also have mid-high-end phones.
Blizzard: Fuck You, Pay Me.
"This can't possibly get any worse"
[Blizzard laughing in the background]
They should change from Blizzard to Avalanche. Lol
Blizzard really living up to their name, leaving their fans out in a cold, dark, microtransaction blizzard
"Smell that Randy? It's the shit Blizzard."
Pay a couple thousand and the Sherpa will guide you
Lol
I miss when they used to give us jackets when it was really cold outside.😿
Yep
i had a friend tell me that they "only" spent 200$ on lootboxes to get a character they wanted in genshin i was just like wtf
Thats 3 1/2 full price games, i hope this character is ALOT of fun to play
Yeah whenever I considered dropping some cash on the gachas I play I would look at the pack prices and be immediately dissuaded. It's not that I can't afford it (which is one of the frequent responses from dumb whales, "haha you poor"), it's just that I compare how many HUNDREDS, perhaps THOUSANDS of hours I could get for spending that same money on a Steam sale rather than buy a bit of premium currency that may or may not get me ONE character in ONE game that will probably be out of meta by next update anyway (or that was never meta to begin with). That's ACTUAL VALUE being put against a CHANCE to momentarily boost your ego, and that's something no one in their right mind would even compare (and yes, I know there are compulsive spenders, I'm not talking about them - I wish for them to get all the psychological help they require).
one of my coworkers: You spent 70$ on Resident evil village ?? That's too expensive for one game!! Same person: I ONLY spent 150$ in overwatch to get this legendary outfit!!
People are financially illiterate these days and blow their money on dumb things.
I hope they enjoyed it!
Also, look at the predatory pricing when you buy orbs, for example: to buy 2 legendary crests, you'll need 320 orbs. Notice how you can buy 300 orbs and get "15 extra"? It's _juuuust_ not enough to buy 2 crests, forcing you to either go for a more expensive option or get an additional 60 orb pack, leaving you with the 55 orbs wasted. The same happens when you want to get 4 crests and need 640 orbs - one purchase for $14 is only worth 630. Only when spending at least $35, you get a little bit more than a multiple of 160.
Btw, as shown in this video, if you want 6000+1200 orbs, you have to pay $139.99.
What a joke, fuck Blizzard
Yeah it's a typical MTX pricing. Fortnite and other games do the same. It's fucked
I love how the Diablo Immoral meme went from “do you guys not have phones” to “do you guys not have 110k”
I love the 'Immoral' line!
"Do you guys not have loans?"
or "wallets"
Sure! I have some lying in my couch.
Do you guys not have a second mortgage?
Blizzard knew that this would tank their reputation with their fans even more. This was intended to expand their audience to chinese mobile gamers, aka the highest population of whales in the world. And it is incredibly well done. The base game is good, and the microtransactions are very effectively predatory and the heights of what can be spent on the game are astronomical. This will be Blizzard's most profitable game ever.
That's the worst part: as far as Blizzard is concerned this will be a massive success. Good games are bad for business, and if you want to make as much money as possible as efficiently as possible this is the way to do it. People forget that the third prong of the Activision-Blizzard fork is King Games, the mobile games studio behind economic powerhouses like Candy Crush Saga. In many ways King is the cash cow that carries the entire company, and their products have achieved a level of market saturation typically reserved for brands like Coca Cola or McDonalds. Inevitably the decision makers at Blizzard would see what they're doing, making billions of dollars and claiming massive marketshare for minimal effort, and want on to that infinite money train regardless of how many sacred cows would have to be sent to the abbatoir in order to pay for the ticket. If you approach games from the perspective of an accountant or an investor rather than a gamer or game developer, purely as a product to be used for generating profit no different from grain or gravel, it would be stupid not to.
Remember kids: corporations are never your friends, they're never on your side, and they will never care about you. If you love something the artists on their payroll produce that's fine, but don't fall in love with the publishers that exploit said artists, and don't mistake the former for the latter.
what a sad world we live in fr
@@_peepee_ Zamn we live in a society 😢😢😢
@@tjenadonn6158 sad but true, very astute analysis and summary.
The best part to this is that the plan to expand to China has suffered enormous setback. The Chinese placed ban on all gaming for people under 18 to the tune of only 3 hours a week allowed. This leaves Blizzard with no choice but to market to only adults there.
At this point they should've renamed Diablo: Immortal to _"Diablo: Immoral"_ because Blizzard is immoral. And we all thought EA was bad...
EA IS bad. Blizzard has just joined the circus.
Think about this for a second: if just 10 people play the game and pay the full amount to fully spec their character, assuming that the numbers are correct, $110K from just 10 people, that's already over a million dollars in Activision Blizzard's pockets. But that is just 10 players. Now imagine hundreds of players. A hundred thousand players. A million players. Half a billion players even. That means ActiBlizz has already won and while a small minority of players will basically ignore the game and not pay a cent for anything in it, there are others that wont care. We've already lost before we began.
its the whole business model, low conversion rate but the price tag makes it still profitable
It's brilliant but predatory and evil.
Sometimes the convenience and the slapped on title of 'free' is good enough to get people avoiding the paid-for titles. Shouldn't be like that but just the way it is.
If people spend that much on a video game they didn't work very hard for that money.
Crazy how things change, EA had the worst microtransactions with lootboxes and other stuff and now Blizzard is worse.
At least EA releases good games sometimes
It seems as if in their big microtransaction franchises
Theyve become complacent since Battlefront 2 and that backlash in how much to push their microtransactions to avoid backlash
Star wars games are now fully complete singleplayer experiences
Like squadrons and Jedi fallen order
@@colin3ds1 Diablo 4 looks amazing tho.
Nfs heat was amazing
@@lust1875 lol, no. It was short, rushed, and had a massive lack of content.
The real secret is that Bliz have been worse than EA for a decade.
Diablo 3 releasing with massively reduced drop rates to force people into the RWT marketplace, claiming that it is impossible to raise drop rates to make the game fun.
Upon removal of the market they raised the drop rates and suddenly the game was actually fun.
Overwatch is the game that brought lootboxes from a mobile/TF2 only idea and made it a mainstream feature of many AAA games since
WoW has been chucking in ridiculous additional paid content that angers the fans for over 15 years
Hearthstone is a cut down, gutted version of the WoW TCG but with MUCH lower drop rates than the real card game, making Hearthstone somehow significantly more expensive than collecting physical cards
Blizzard have been a deep evil in this industry for a long, long time. Especially since they became Activision Blizzard. Never forget that Activision were the most evil force in the gaming industry over the 2000's, far worse than EA could ever hope to be.
And this is before we talk about how they treat their staff. EA are terrible to the consumer but mostly good to their employees.
Bliz hates the consumers and their own employees.
I hate EA as much as the next guy but I have been vehemently against Blizzard for a decade. The proof that they would do something like this has been in everyone's face for years.
Blizzard seriously had immense negative feedback from the moment they teased the game and still continuously made it worse
I legit thought your profile image was one of my loose eyelashes stuck to my screen.
that's the whole point though, no matter how loud people complain on youtube/twitter/twitch/ so on, it will still be a highly profitable for them in the long run since there is a vast audience out there all around the world that doesnt use any of those social platforms. there literally nothing anyone can do about it unless laws are implemented to prevent it from happening
"Do you guys not have a market research department?"
oh boy, haven't seen this comment on every video that's talking about this. originally is lost
i sat there for 5 minutes trying to get the hair off my monitor, i was ashamed when i learned it was your profile picture
I just realized how much more likable companies would be if they could logically and firmly defend any business decision they make. But when they ignore it, try to work around it, or just not listen to opposing arguments, it makes them so unlikable.
On a side note, I wouldn’t be surprised if Blizzard-Activision just says “screw it”, and adds purchases to D2R. You know conversations have been had about the Chinese bot farms and the item purchase websites. Why let a those parties make that money when we can sell items ourselves for real dollars?
Want a Jah, that wil cost you 9.99. Want a Griffons Eye, sure…that will be 19.99. Want more stash and character slots on your account? We’ve got you covered…$4.99 per slot/tab.
I don’t like the way the industry is going (creating unfinished games and nickel and diming consumers to buy into a compete game).
@Rvve Duio I am convinced that nobody actually gave a shit about the shitty shit they did, they just wanted to chase clout by talking about the newest scandal. Why do I believe this? Because 99% of the people who shamed them are now hyping up Overwatch 2 and playing Diablo Immortal.
I never played a Diablo Game in my life and even I’m pissed with how crazy expensive Diablo Immortal can get, but then again it’s Blizzard we’re talking about
You don't need to personally be a victim of scams and heartbreak to feel bad when other people get taken advantage of. Sympathy is considered both a positive and desirable trait in humans for a reason. (Sorry if this came out sounding weird or hostile, I'm tired as fuck at the time of writing)
I'd honestly recommend playing Diablo II Resurrected or Diablo III.
@@dantethewanderer4989 you’re fine. I get shag you’re saying. I’m really pissed that companies charge this much for purchasable items
@@KameWeeb Unless if they fixed Diablo II Resurrected, I'd recommend just playing the OG Diablo II.
@@snazzyjovialwyrm3314 whats wrong with diablo 2 r, I like it just hate i have to connect to the internet every once in awhile (switch ver.)
You know you've fucked up when you can make EA look generous.
Oh Damn
whats ea ?
@@yogitkishore419 EA is the gaming company that makes things like sims, in which they'll release minor updates for their games that cost around $30.
Ikr lmao
@@yogitkishore419 EA is a small gaming company called Electronic Arts they are more commonly know for the catchphrase and the multitude of payed content they give out.
I'm ashamed by anyone who played it. I kinda thought after the piss poor reveal gamers would have collectively decided not to give their money to a developer that actively hates them. How wrong I was.
I mean a ton of people who now play Overwatch 1 and 2, Diablo Immortal and so on had promised to boycott Blizzard over the sexual harassment scandal just a few months ago.
Never underestimate how degenerate gamers are; they have no standards and will eat trash off the floor
@@ymirs4400 Yeah, even after righteously proclaiming that they would never do it again.
@@Misanthropolis nobody cares about harrassment, that's their internal business. Gamers care aboit pay to win.
Diablo Immortal is absolute trash on every level
Warframe is one of the best free to play games hands down. If you want to earn every type of frame or weapon in the game you can by just grinding and trading or if you want to pay money just to use it early they have a pay option. Games need to be more like Warframe.
The grind bud, i hate it with passion.
And we can always get plats by trading stuffs. And it's not even that hard to earn plat.
The Virgin Diablo: Immoral Vs. The Chad Warframe
@@r3zaful but would you rather grind or be p2w tho
@@r3zaful but there’s nothing f2p can’t do in warframe. You can earn absolutely everything by just grinding. The grind is actually fun for the most part
They called it Diablo Immortal because you'd need to be immortal to max out a few characters without paying.
^Under rated comment right here
This needs a heart lmfao
Now this is funny
You will never max out a single character rwithout paying, because by the time you would reach that point the cap will already be raised
Incredible.
Don't call them Microtransactions. If you can spend more the the full cost of a AAA game in a single purchase it is no longer "micro". We have to find a better term because microtransaction just seems way too innocuous.
Megatransactions
I got you: Ingame transactions.
Macrotransactions.
True!
maximumtransactions
If Muta ever finds Path of Exile ... and realizes that it has controller support and can be played on his Steam Deck now ...
We'll never hear from him ever again.
"49% of mobile gamers use TikTok"
Meanwhile mobile gamers:
"He could be any one of us! He could be me, he could be you, he could be..."
Did TH-cam short count as tiktok?
Blizzard then: *"Innovates with passion."*
Blizzard now: *"Innervates with defecation."*
"innovates with 900% extra value $1000."
“Blizzard now” should be Activision-Blizzard. Blizzard isn’t Blizzard anymore, guys. The good ones left to make other better studios.
They still have passion, but it’s for money, not the game
Blizzard we knew died almost 15 years ago
@@valoric4767 should be called Tencent-Activision-Blizzard which is like a big pile of turd covered with nasty diarrhea
Did anyone actually expect this game to be anything but a micro transaction safari!? If you did I applaud you for maintaining optimism for the gaming industry
I think the whole point is we didn't expect it to be to this severity. A core gameplay mechanic of diablo is locked behind microtransactions. Getting loot in the other games was just running rifts or killing a guy over and over trying to get that low drop chance item. Now it's spend 20$ to add a chest to the end of your rift that drops items, you run rifts to open loot boxes...
I'm not surprised, but I am disappointed
I knew it was going to have microtransactions but I didn't think it would be this bad. They don't even try to hide it.
I'm tired boss...
No just about everyone expected it to be a whale farmer game. The issue is people didn't expect it to be this egregious and predatory. This is by far the most predatory and abusive mobile I've seen.
10:36 we need to get mutaha a voice acting role for a joker laugh in a future Batman movie this laugh is terrifying haha 😂
What you like about Diablo is what I like about monster hunter games.
The two are obviously very different but with many shared concepts.
Unfortunately the mobile games for MH looks pretty bad.
A note about the Extra card. They only report to 2 Credit bureaus, Experian and Equifax. This is important because most if not all Auto and home purchases will be based off of your FICO or transunion score. On top of that, the card is 84 bucks annually. So you are technically building credit but not really any meaningful credit.
Shitting on Blizzards shitty business practices while shamelessly promoting a sham credit card.
Good one, Mutahar.
Extra more like Sketchtra
Man I was going to ask about it too.. I just got sober and out of the clink after 15 years if struggle and anyways its actually been 5 good solid years now and I have a lot of stuff to lose again and am ready to get a new car and apartment orhouse as I have had full income for awhile now... how can I truly fix my credit then or make it better Llama??
P.s. I was literally just eating some sour tropical Llama gummies thought it was funny
@@Ellesdy1 get a pre paid credit card use it for a few months go through a bank or a big credit card company. Only spend what you can. From there you build enough to be approved by your bank for one of their credit cards. Keep constant flow of manageable debt over the course of a couple years. Make all big purchases on the card. You’ll recover
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I think that one good aspect of this overall awful Diablo launch is the immense negative press that this scam game is receiving all over the internet, warning players of $110,000 builds and cash drain microtransactions. I honestly think this negative press will save a lot of prospective players from falling into Bilzzard's trap unknowingly.
They are tapping into the Chinese whale market, it might flop in the US but in China this game is gonna be super popular.
Saved me
@@nascentKiller indeed
@@nascentKiller Literally this. The mobile gaming market is larger than both PC and consoles COMBINED. That's a fact that I loathe to recognize but it's the truth. China's gaming laws encourage these types of games to be developed as well. You are only allowed to play a certain number of hours per week of video games in China so naturally these types of games will get made and will be massively successful because you have an enormous market of several BILLIONS of people who are only allowed to play a handful of hours each month and so you can very easily pray on their FOMO (fear of missing out) because you KNOW they will spend money to get power and "win"
My balls, I know a lot of people that didnt give a damn and are playing the game daily as a f2p players. Reason? Those folks ever give a damn about reviews and pc games, they are mostly used to mobile games.
The mobile game Marvel Future Fight was my Diabalo Immortal for a while. I was addicted 4 years ago. I ended up with a tier 2 Lizard, Spiderman, and Medusa after a year of consistant gameplay. Unfortunately, after a while, I realized A) I hit a paywall for both online and story mode, and B) they would keep introducing more OP characters instead of balancing the older ones. Now that they came out with a Tier 4 character, my maxxed Lizard would get absolutely destroyed now. Shelved the game 3 years ago. All that progress lost. Sad.
I also quit mff, but because I got shafted after months of farming for cups and cards
Ayyy a shout out to my man Bellular, him and his team are fantastic in covering these topics, definitely worth checking them out.
Games with predatory MXTs (and gambling) should definitely be rated AO (or create a rating for this garbage). Politicians definitely dropped the ball when this was brought up a few years and EA rep was like "we don't consider that gambling, it's surprise mechanics" or whatever she said. It was gross to watch.
I remember when the kid-friendly Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch received an 18+ rating in Korea because you can play simulated casino gambling.
And yet Korea is one of the biggest countries in making gacha games with lootboxes and microtransactions. Netmarble, a Korean company, made Ni no Kuni: Cross Worlds, an MMO spinoff with gacha lootboxes as well as crypto and NFTs. That game is only rated 12+, even if it has real gambling.
@@HydraSpectre1138 simulated casinos is somehow WORSE than real gambling?! Wtf is wrong those guys??
@@halinaqi2194 I know, right? It’s baffling how Korea thinks real gambling via. lootboxes and gacha, cryptocurrencies and NFTs that cost real world money are okay for kids but not simulated casinos where no real money is spent.
It is not murder, it is surprise unliving.
Politicians don't care, they're too busy taking it from you anyway
As an owner of a phone, I have no intentions of wanting to do nothing with this game and feel proud of feeling this way. Least I won’t have to worry about getting gun downed constantly of being asked for money.
"We've been trying to reach you about your Extended Gem Subscription" - Blizzard Probably.
Blizzscam
I find it funny
First 2 Diablos where beat em ups with RTS controls that lasted a couple of hours, was unique but wasn't ideal
Then they released Diablo 3 and did their idea well, a beat em up with builds and some strategy, it even plays well with a controller(at least the Xbox 360 version did), like beat em ups are supposed to
Then they do this lmao, not surprising but...
They really flopped despite having the formula figured out so well...
you have no intentions of wanting to do nothing with this game? that means you want to play the game.....
To be honest it’s fairly decent early on, I’m only early game. But it seems alright if you know how to withhold spending money
Fuck yeah! Just discovered your channel and I'm pumped to hear that you like SMT. You got a subscriber my man
You're wrong, a new report come out that it costs over HALF A MILLION
“When you upgrade a 5/5 star gem to level 10, that is attached to a piece of gear above rank 6, that 5/5 star gem would undergo a process called “awakening”. When a 5/5 star gem awakens, it gains an additional five slots around it, which allows an additional five legendary gems to be slotted into it, which have to be individually upgraded again to rank 10. If you’re to be lucky and average around $15,000 per 5/5 star gem, for 36 gems, that alone would tally up to $540,000.”
"Based on the percentages viewable in-game, they estimate that with average luck, one would need to spend between $300,000 and $600,000 before obtaining six legendary gems"
Watch Blizzard doing a PR move, by pretending to listen their feedback and pulling back their absurd microtransaction. Hoping to gain the player’s trust
Only to then very slowly bring it back.
It's not possible for them to do that considering the mobile market is far more massive than Blizzard itself and they'll lose out on so much money since well, literally every corporation is out for money even harder than ever.
Original "acceptable" microtransactions: 1-10$
Make a game with 50-200$ ones
When backlash hits lower it to 10-20$ ones and claim you listened
Thats how they slowly crept up and up
I don't think they will, this game was made for the Asian audience not us here in the US.
The trick is to overprice everything far beyond what you expected anyone to pay, so when they scream abput the chargrs, you can pretend to "listen" to the complaints and move prices to where you originally expected them in the first place. It's like holding a "sale" after you've jacked the price up, so that it feels like a good deal.
But they aren't. They never will be.
The company we knew and loved growing up doesn't exist anymore. All that's there is a corporation looking for the lowest common denominators to siphon money from. The worst part is that they'll get that money because these are the people they're aiming for, not us.
Company always existed to siphon money from us. It's simply we boomers are not the target demographics anymore. Those mobile gamers have more money than us peasant pc gamers.
Just like Rockstar, it used to be about passionate people making a great game. Now it's about daddy holding company overseeing everything and ensuring that max profits are reached. I honestly feel sorry for game developers that go into the field with such creativity and passion in mind only to be fucked over at every corner in favor of microtransactions and loot boxes.
It's unfortunate because there are people who play mobile that won't ever see videos like these, and they will partake in the P2W aspects. Never knowing that it's completely immoral and predatory.
Nice! A promo I actually enjoyed. As someone looking to build good credit, I'll have to check it out. Thanks Muta
I only found this channel because of the act man. I'm so happy I did though it's great to hear and intelligent person break this stuff down
I have opened at least 400 crates in rocket league... (back when they had keys it was 5 keys for 6 dollars or so)
I was 15-17 and I have many regrets. The slot machine addiction point is extremely true. Don't be like me
At least in rocket league it's only cosmetic.
@@XemPvP That's not a good excuse
@@Walamonga1313 at least it doesn't give you any advantage
@@XemPvP True, but still... I dont even use 90% of it at all which renders it kind of useless, and either way its still gambling by definition
@@alexst3232 i'm sad that i don't have anything. I were there after 2018 and i haven't bought anything in multiplayer games neither many online games. Was too stingy. I feel left out. I've missed out on discord days too. Lonely noises. Now i'm not even bothering anymore to catch up. Ain't bothering to start from zero to become average. I'm out. Even the bitcoin era i've failed while i did buy it but lost to a software.
As someone who's drudged through mobile game addiction (yes, literal addiction) and come out the other end, it pains me to know giant companies are still draining people of money like this. Truly disgusting practices, but ultimately profitable. >:(
At least you're being honest/knowledgeable. A lot of people are pointing at Blizzard because they were the most p2w. Newsflash, MOST mobile games are p2w by design. Admonishing Blizzard isn't the solution- and doesn't stop the bi-annual scheduled Blizzard scandals.
@@kylesmith7413 Too right; every mobile game is designed with their "$3 gets you a daily boost for a month!" and "$29.99 VERY RARE VIP PACK"; it's just getting amplified because it's an American-made publisher taking the beating this time. Netmarble and MiHoYo are reviled some, yes, but they ultimately know how to cater to the audience they want (and succeed 95% of the time).
Blizzard, though? They started off Diable Mobile by walking into a rake, and they didn't seem to take any feedback from their legendary faceplant at BlizzCon. Now, their fanbase can only hope they listen to community pushback from here on out.
@@amberhernandez Blizzard charges absurd amounts for the shop stuff in WoW. I guarantee you they do not give a single shit.
@OneFortyFour Thank you! It's been four years, and seeing where the game's at now, I'm grateful that accidental uninstall happened and set me right, hahaha!
It’s not an addiction you just have poor self control.
The entire time I watched the gameplay I couldn't stop thinking "yeah, but it still looks and feels like a mobile game" and I think that's the issue. Trying to create games similar to what is already out on consoles and PC and not respecting a tablet or phone as its own medium for art
Diablo Immortal Hidden Caps:
-After 6 legendary drops a day, your drop rate severely decreases for future drops.
-After a group bonus of 6 normal gems a day, your drop rate severely decreases for future drops.
-Sidequests STOP giving rewards after 5 per day.
-Purple BOSSES STOP giving rewards after 5 per day.
-Random MAP events STOP giving rewards after 5 per day.
-Zolten Kule Treasure Rooms are LIMITED to 5 per day.
-And most importantly, Hidden Lairs dungeons STOP giving gems rewards 5 per day.
I think one of the worst things I've seen is the poor shaming a rather loud chunk of the game is doing at the moment. I've seen so much of people just bash non paid characters and it's ridiculous. I know diablo doesn't have the best community but this is a new low
@@chuchu5946 Wait was there actually a $150 skin? that's hilarious!
@@chuchu5946 Drow Ranger was also behind BP. Its disgusting. Pure FOMO. Also around $140.
And one cannot grind the battle pass to that level...
Edit: the issue with FOMO in this case, is: its locked in the BP. One cannot claim (buy/trade) after the event ends.
"ok so just don't buy it" yeah sure it's that easy!
And my favourite: vote with your wallet. Lmao that 0.0001% who does that sure makes a difference. Perhaps you can grow that percent to 0.001%!
I don't have the issue myself but I've witnessed maaany players with this... Its tough for them. And to see it. Tf is the solution?
Diablo as a series has become its own Dark Wanderer with Diablo Immortal. At first, the series was a glorious bastion of great entertainment, a "Hero", free from microtransaction bs. But now, Diablo has been corrupted by "Evil" and has become the "Villain", and is now easily one of the worst, most microtransaction filled hellholes (how ironic that that descriptor fits) imaginable.
Diablo Immortal quite literally personifies the saying "You Either Die a Hero, or Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain".
Use a different overused quote.
@@Mercer45X stfu it's a fitting comparison. Keep your negativity to yourself
Yes, it's a great quote that seems centuries old, but is actually very new.
"Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
- The Dark Knight, 2008
ActiBLiz has been a villain long before DI.
24:30 Imo Warframe has the best implementation of a free-to-play game I have seen. While it is easy to think it's pay to win, every unlockable character, weapon, and several colours and cosmetics are unlockable through gameplay. Even the currency to buy with real money, called Platinum, is actually tradable with other players for in-game items. So you could also farm the platinum required to buy the items you can't or simply don't want to grind for.
I had played for so long and spent so many hours on it, that I ended up paying for platinum simply because I felt bad playing for so long for free.
Not to mention the insane discounts and how often they come. 50% or 75% off of Platinum just from a daily log in roll? That is an actually properly done system. And you can farm the shit out of the same item from Relics and then sell it in bulk for Platinum.
I got many primes on playstation and never bought plat
I love how he has Tim Horton in background
I feel like saying "play it until you hit that wall" isn't good enough tbh. The business model that Immortal and games like it employ are so predetory and market tested to catch whales that I dont even think you should risk it. It's like gamling, you don't know you're an addict until it has you in its claws. That's why its so dangerous to the point where its banned in several countries.
IMO you SHOULD take a hardline stance in saying "DO NOT PLAY THIS GAME" just for the sake of the poor people that may be entrapped by the lootbox/gacha model. Diablo is such a property where the majority playing immortal may not even know what a freakin lootbox/gachapon even is, which is even more risky. Please dissuade people from playing this game.
I've played RAID : Shadow Legends and this whole video and your comment made me feel massive deja vu lmao
100% do not play Diablo immortal. Don't reward them for shitty behaviour and don't put yourself at risk.
Agreed. Though it'd be awesome if EVERYONE just played until the paywall, loaded their servers in PVP for a while, and then quit. Not spending a dime.
But, yeah, I really agree with what u said, but it'd be cool if this fukcery ended up costing them money/server load instead of making them some. This predatory stuff is a bad look.
If you play the game even F2P you are supporting the game. You are insuring we will see more of this in future.
100% agree. When it's pointed out that the company spends more resources developing ways to make you spend money over enjoy the product, it's more risk than reward. It should not be encouraged in the slightest. I wish people were taking a harder stance on this to help the people who don't know what they're getting into.
11:30 part of the whailing handbook. Show the new player an offer SO GOOD they simply cannot refuse and normalize spending money on your free game. And so it has 800% extra value... except blizz immediately got greedy and turned the first microtransaction that is supposed to make you comfortable with spending money in the game into a trap.
Great video.2 things.I worked with a young guy years ago that spent 5k on Boom Beach over the summer-it was his first job. I've heard it said when Diablo 2 was in it's hayday that it wasn't just a slot machine-that would be addictive enough,it was the combination of a slot machine and a pinatà
It's more than 110,000 USD. The average estimate right now is 225,000 USD. Key-word AVERAGE, so you could spend even more if you're unlucky.
Also the pity system doesn't give you a 5/5 Star gem. It gives you any */5 Star gem. So again, even the pity system wont help you much because 99% of the time, the pity system will give you a 2/5 Star gem. Quin spent over 8,000 USD and his highest is a 3/5. He's not even close to maxing out. He doesn't even have a single 5/5 Star gem yet.
That's very bad even for a gacha game.
But they'll probably fix the pity it down the line when people complain about it enough. But by then they already raked in millions from whales and krakens full of FOMO trying to outfit themselves in full 5 start gear. Then they'll release better gear that outclasses the current set of 5 star gear and the cycle continues.
PS: A key rule for any new gacha game is don't go hard in the beginning. Reroll on something decent and stick with it until the game is better understood and metas start to set in. That's because beginner gear or units get outclassed very fast by new banners and it's better to save the tons of free stuff you get on the better things.
@@trueblueclue solid advice, absolutely correct.
@Bernardus Jodokus Kwak Me watching a stream won't change anything. The only thing that can affect change is money. Blizzard already made a mountain of money off of it so the incentive to continue making games like this is already there for them.
It should be worth pointing out that this game has been in development for roughly 4 years. The people responsible for the microtransactions in the game had *plenty* of time to say to themselves "hey, maybe this is a bit too much" and they did not.
No matter what stunt they try to pull to get out of the PR tailspin this game has produced, please remember that including predatory microtransactions were an active decision continually made for 4 years.
Why would they go back from a decision that was made from the start?
I think what they kept saying to themselves was "hey, what haven't we paywalled enough yet?"
I hate it too, but considering it's probably the most successful game they've ever made (and probably will ever make) because of that, I think we'll be seeing more of it.
There's even another micro transaction that doesn't show up till you hit paragon, it's for when you get your legendary gems to lvl 10 you can unlock more power from it, but getting it to 5 already takes like 45 gems to sacrifice, so to get one gem to 10 and them do the unlock on it you're probably looking at 150-250 legendary gems to get a single gem to lvl 10
Not to mention the bait 'n switch with Legendary Crests and Eternal Legendary Crests.
The methods and intentions used are basically the same as for scammer, I see it as scammification of the video game industry, just like it happened with other fields wich are now central to most scams, like it happened with call centers. The bad thing is in this kind of case it is worse because it grow from the other side of the fence, slowly pushing the limits and disfiguring the extent of legality and intent, and take 100% use in the fact it is actually legal from the bottom going upward.
Couldn't of said it any better
I personally, don't understand how anyone can support Blizzard after everything that came out about them
Copy paste
Blizzard has ironically became corrupted bunch like how they used corruption as major plot point for all of their game franchises.
Oh the irony.
They tried to warn us
they are too busy sexually abusing women to even care about the games they put out now
(or was that Activision?)
The same has been said for Rockstar. Sobering times.
I played immortal and after a while I just realised it’s just a worse version of D3 but with micro transactions.
What is the point of it for me the player? Lore? I can just watch a TH-cam video to get that.
It exists to make money - that’s all.
I uninstalled.
Soak up the lore while you can, before you know it the game will have no content left.
Basically just play D3 instead.
Most AAA companies should be ashamed of anything they put out these days
I remember playing Diablo 3 and getting super lucky with the RNG and getting great gear that scaled with me to end game. I liget used the same armor and weapons and skills from level 1 good times lol
Blizzard?! They died years ago. This is just Activision walking around wearing Blizzard's corpse like a swimsuit.
"I NEED SUGAR WATER"
I was right to drop all my support for Blizzard and their games.
I’m sure they miss you
@@sharpshooter_Aus They don’t, but fuck em.
Right with you!
@@sharpshooter_Aus L mindset
@@purp1017 It's a truer though. Blizzard only cares about our wallets, and they'll keep stooping until there are no more horses to beat. They're not ashamed.
You were downloading while you played too - that downarrow with the % symbol - It should feel a bit snappier once those downloads finish.
"Then you're going to run across a pay to win wall regarding the AI."
Literally every Dragon Ball Legends event in a nutshell lol.
The gaming we grew up with is dying at a pretty accelerated rate. Praise be to emulators and physical media.
How to remove micro-transactions from games:
Step 1. Don’t play them.
Step 2. Done.
Haven’t payed for any EA game and any with micro-transactions since Dead Space 3. The only exception is GTA Online, that I’ve played, but still did not pay for shark cards.
Or pirate it Yahoo arh
Tell that to the whales
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime If f2p players stopped playing there wouldn't be any whales. They would have to move on to other titles so they can dominate people with their wallets.
edited for spelling mistake*
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime I won’t. Let em’ be. They play what they like - I play what I like.
@@deathshadow456 Yes.
I always enjoy your video... As a Starcraft and Ex Diablo player.. this is like dessert for my soul
Btw for the Diablo convention... all those Diablo fans paid money to go down to the event.. and all of them were harcore PC gamers
10:36 it was so hilariously corrupt that Muta's laugh turned into a Karen for a second.
11:50
You’re a legend for realizing the 800% value was bs😂
This is what happens in the mobile games market, almost every single mobile game out there is like that, with the extremely predatory micro transaction and no one talks anything about it, but now Diablo is released on mobile with that kind of MTX and the gaming community cries about it. Blizzard does that because that is what happens on everything in the mobile market.
It’s cause many of the people trying it out don’t normally play mobile games.
This is evil even by the standards of mobile games. One I'm playing now is $3 a draw if you use real-world money, with three hundred draws being what it takes to get the featured character by pity. It takes four copies to max out a character's level, which means that in the _absolute_ worst case scenario, you spend $3600 - and to get to $100k _in a year_ , you'd have to insist on drawing every featured gacha until you get the feature _and_ have have the worst luck in human history( _and_ be a spendthrift in the premium item shop).
Because of the backlash, hopefully publishers and developers would reconsider making games like these for the mobile market.
@@goodmorningennui a couple weeks of bad videos won't even make them turn their heads while they are counting the millions the whales will spend. The only way to stop this is to make any chance for cash purchases in games illegal, make it illegal to not sell exact thing for exact amount of real currency.
There's a surprising amount of decent mobile games where the monetization is fair or even absent, for those who can find them. Diablo Immortal is not one of them.
As a rule of thumb, if the app/play store suggests it, it's 99% trash. Almost everything worth checking is buried under bazillions of trash apps. Why? Neither Apple nor Google are your friend. If you get a good fun game for a buck or even free, you'll be too entertained to care about the ad-riddled MTX games they want you to play.
I love the Muta laugh, it's hilarious and very very genuine 👍
Ten years ago, I started playing Neverwinter for the first time. Roughly a month later, I stopped playing Neverwinter, after realizing I had spent $100 in one month. As far as I know, their premium content isn't particularly predatory. I'm just susceptible as fuck to it. So I had to stop. I wouldn't touch this "game" with someone else's phone. Blizzard is trying really hard to overtake EA as the scummiest gaming company in the world.
Hooray for the horribly regulated, well exploited, worse than slot-machine rates, hushed gambling starter, overflowing "free" mobile-game market for making this possible.
cry less make more money quit being entitled to free shit
The entire industry is scams man
And it's effecting our entire economy
Can't replace bread with digital bread but that's what we've been letting our kids doing for 2 decades already.
Digital data should be unmonetisable.
Infinite supply means the product should be inherently worthless.
It costs 0$ to copy and distribute a digital product even billions of times over.
I agree that it's bad but I don't think it's gambling. When you gamble you could win money. You can't win in this. They are just taking your money. It's more like robbery. I won money at a casino many times. I won more than I lost.
The funniest thing about winning at a casino is cashing out. There was always a pretty young girl sitting behind bulletproof glass reading a book. She always looked a little surprised that someone walked up. I never saw another person. There was never a line. I never walked past a player walking out. It's the loneliest place in the casino. But it was there. There is no way to take cash out of Diabetes Immoral. You always lose all the money you put in.
Somehow, it got even worse than just an "Out of season April Fools joke"
This is on the level of putting a whoopie cushion on someone's chair at their mother's funeral.
The sheer amount of systems and obfuscation in this game makes it really hard to see how much value you are really getting for your money. It's at the point where I can point to 5 year old gatcha games that were designed with the gatcha elements front and center which seem farer, less confusing, and more f2p friendly than this game.
This video genuinely made me buy diablo 3 and so far hearing how good it is from you muta I'm hyped glad I didn't install imortal when I had the chance to
"What, don't you guys have trust funds?"
-Blizzard, probably
This is so depressing knowing developers will keep making these instead of good games.
nah these aren't developers don't mistake them for actual people who make games. they are completely different categories at this point
I think it's time we fall back to the Indie games. That's where the real fun is nowadays. AAA games are nice, but we're getting to a point where there's only money involved, not quality. Indie developers really put love in their work and try to make awesome and innovative games.
Wow! Muda has microtransactions here at TH-cam... we truly live in a society.
Greedy Publishers: Why do gamers react so negatively to our mobile announcement?
Also Greedy Publishers: Here, have that EXTREMELY overmonetized game where the core gameplay loop has been heavily damaged and paywalled.
This is one of the reasons I love Arknights. Even as a mobile gacha game, it doesnt shove any offers into your face, is very playable even with low rarity characters and most importantly is just a very good game gameplay-, ost- and story-wise.
And the autofarm plus ui it's so good
And the nice little thing where if you don't have a meta or high rarity operator, you can always borrow one from your friends.
Arknights was okay, but nothing can beat Guardian Tales. Period.👌🏼
Sounds like Sdorica
@@mavvynne444 based 😎
Am I the only lore maniac out there? I literally learn every game's ,I play or not , lore. Gameplay and lore experience is a lot different kinds of entertainment for these games.
the mobile SMT game is pretty good but just very confusing at the beginning. the gems are insanely expensive but luckily ive never felt like i needed to ever buy them
I feel there needs to be a thing on all video games going forward where at the beginning of one you get a window that you can choose to opt out of seeing/viewing any and all paid extras if you know you're already not going to be spending money on them.
That doesn’t really matter when the entire design and balance of the game is fucked by p2w micro transactions anyway
No, we need another video game crash
@@mjetektman9313 We are in a video game crash. Why else would anyone play this? Games suck right now.
They'd make that a microtransaction like I think how TH-cam does it though, a a small amount paid so you dont see ads and call it ' premium '
What we need is a law that makes it so the only legal in game transactions have to be X item costs X amount, nothing left to rng or chance because cash for chance is gambling.
Again, once diablo immortal was said to be collaborating with netease I already knew this game was done.
@22:00 * Editor ✍️ 🫠
Got a ad for it because watching this lol
I tell ya Lois this is worse than the time I purchased the Beginner's Pack for 800% off on Diablo Immortal.
In a game about exploring a procedurally generated dungeon to loot procedurally generated items, having any pay 2 win whatsoever is utterly antithetical. Even the idea of skins seems questionable.
oh sweet free ps5
And all you have to do is just pay 20$ to open the chest at the end of your dungeon.
Honestly I'm so glad Muta said it, I've seen so many videos about this that are like "YEAH it's super bad that you'd have to dump this much in" but NONE of the mention it is a MOBILE game and mobile games have RAPID FIRE content because they have to keep everyone hooked, it isn't uncommon for mobile games to get a massive update once a month or a new event or something. Who even knows how many microtransactions would come with that? "Limited time, Mad King's Realm event! Race against the clock to speedrun killing the Mad King! Buy the LIMITED EDITION BATTLE PASS and one-time cosmetics for this event only! Don't forget the new feature we added.. PETS! GET THE MAD KING LIMITED EDITION ONE TIME ONLY PET FOR THIS EVENT!" I can already see it now.
"do you guys have phones?"
As act man said, anyone that works in the service industry, in this case being video games. You should know to not fight the customer, there is no reason to attack or harass the customer.
“Shame? What’s that? Can you monetize it?”
- Blizzard probably
They went crazy high in price so going lower will feel "fair".
I will not play this if you cant play 100% of the game for free. Buying gems is totally fine but if I cant go into a dungeon without paying money I wont play this game!
You can play everything for free,
@@brianatordk6578 wrong, higher difficulty is locked by gear score that you need to pay money to get to, that or grind for literally months
@@TheVenhammer says who, reaching 420 gs for lassal can be done in 2 days,
Currently im breaking 1000 gs and have done lassal on diffculty 2, which has a recommend gs of 1200,
Thats taken me about a week of grinding,
@@brianatordk6578 found the blizzard clown
@@bliiild all i said was that you could do everything in the game,
Game is obvs still a massive paywall
There's probably a yt video on the story that's 50 minutes long, completed the story today, here's what I got
You travel to location to kill boss -> walk around, can't find boss -> you find person -> you ask person where boss -> person knows a guy -> brings you to village -> village leader will help you if you help them -> basically kill 3 mini bosses -> give village leader items from mini boss -> kill real boss -> leave -> repeat
I had an ad for the game before the video 😂
I spent WAY too much time on Diablo 3 with my friends and it was some of the most fun I've had in gaming. Legendary hunting was just another level of fun. Immortal doesn't even come close to that experience.
That game was great. PS4, no Internet connection, just going through the story mode and taking my first character to level 50 (first Lv50 in _any_ RPG I've played). Getting that powerful is among my better gaming moments.
Imma be honest I think immortal isn’t that bad. No one is forcing you to pay. Yes it’s predatory, but I think it’s not that bad, so long as people understand that its tougher to play f2p. And that you should go into with a gamblers mindset of don’t spend. ALSO is very good game. It works well, and mechanics are quicker. I personally don’t think that it’s bad if you simply don’t spend. I’ve beaten the game and not paid a cent.
@@CreedOfUnity then u realize u cant touch pvp sto fan boyng for a BS game
@@diocanguro3211 ? What do you mean that I can’t touch pvp? I’m not fanboying, I’m very aware of it’s flaws to some extent.
@@diocanguro3211 plus, isn’t Diablo about PVE anyways LMAO.
Never played a Diablo game before and thought "Hm it's free, a good friend of mine plays it, let's give it a try". Liked the gameplay and the Aesthetics honestly and then reached the Paywall upon reaching the Paragon levels. One good thing came out of the experience though, I got hooked on Diablo itself and will definitely check out the proper Diablo titles in the future.
You'll love the proper titles, so fun.
You should try path of exile.
d3 seasons are very fun
Diablo immortal is a dumbed down version of diablo 3, so you'll love 3!
Muta unleashing his inner joker 10:30
ea: we're the worst the gaming company on the planet
blizzard: hold my breast milk
Ea kick-started the trend now everyone following 👍
Konami: Hold my beer 😎
Got a Diablo Immortal ad while watching this video lol
Funny seeing you here
I recently started playing D:I and I enjoy the game play but I was never one of the HC Diablo player so I will have no issue with dropping it once I get bored with no progression and required to pay. Enjoy what is there and walk away is the best mindset you can develop with the modern game design/market space.
“And uhhh, let’s get on with the video!”
_gets two unskippable ads_