G'day Jay, an exciting episode on a fabulous American automobile. You have the enthusiasm of youth to carry this off, and I have nothing but respect for you. Go west young man. You have very much sold me man, these Pierce Arrow vehicles are magnificent in their details. I really think you need to negotiate a situation when you are not simply another visitor, but a professional car review channel master (which you are Jay) and get some spare time with these beauties, with engine images and sitting inside showing and describing the controls and gauges. You deserve more as do we, your loyal audience, surely? These cars are boutique babes needing a thorough examination.
I want nothing more than to go west I’m not sure if that’s going to be this year though I got a lot of stuff going on this summer I really wanna go though I thought about getting the kids and taking the Prius across country to see how much it would cost to take a Prius cross country The Gilmore auto museum is the same distance as it is to Classic autumn also is 5 1/2 hours it’s actually a little bit further it’s about six hours up the road. I travel a lot to do these cars so I bought a Prius because it’s good on gas. On the trip up there one way it cost me $25 on the way back it cost more for some reason the only thing that I did different was I use cruise control on the way back I drove like a complete idiot on the way there like weaving in and out of traffic because people get in the passing lane and they just sit there it’s one of my biggest pet peeve’s. Another one is if I’m traveling at 55 miles an hour if you pull in front of me you better be going 55 miles an hour or I’m going to pass you. I hate that as well Yeah one day I would love to do more in-depth tour of these cars beings that there’s are at a museum I couldn’t get in them I couldn’t get the glovebox test or anything like that.
@@What.its.like. You covered my two pet peeves as well. I got stuck behind a complete novice driver in his shitty little rattle box one day, and the 5 lanes were blocked with traffic, and except for him driving illegally slow (75 KMH instead of 100 KMH, it really pissed me off, I was retuning from a 3 1/2 HR drive with a dead coil pack on my V6 engine, I also had the flu, so my patience was really tested. He was shocked at having to move aside, as if I was some kind of thug, which I am not. Follow the road rules. Everything is easier. The drivers in the 3rd world are funny/terrifying. The side of the road you drive on is arbitrary, especially near the crest of a hill, and everybody is polite, because they all drive like this.
That is honestly my biggest pet peeve driving it is legal here and less you’re passing a car honestly if I was in charge of the rules I would change the speed limit to 85 mph if anybody was going over that that wouldn’t be my main concern my main concern would be the people in the passing lane that are just camped there trying to police everybody else they would get a ticket in points on their license for every mile per hour slower they were driving in the car they were trying to pass like if they are trying to pass a car that is going 50 miles an hour and they are going 50.1 miles Per hour to overtake the cop their ass is getting points honestly those are the people that caused the accidents
Thank you so much it means the world to me that you liked a Cabinets have a busy day today I shot a wedding yesterday I was a photographer, I have to build a big custom cabinet today but the good thing is they don’t want it painted or stained or anything I just want it natural
Sweet choice =) Glad you dig the cabinet I don’t do a lot of craft shows I have a big one coming up in August when I do that I’ll have multiple pieces I’ll show you guys everything that I do or most everything I build a lot of custom stuff
Hi Jay!: GREAT to see all the great Pierce procucts! From their mega-cool shaft drive bicycle, to the 1937 sedan, one of the last! My WYR would also be the LeBaron sedan (neat body similar to some of the great Murphy bodies used on Duesenbergs, etc.) Second is the 1937 sedan (color scheme isn't the best,, but I kind of like the body style) Pierce was trying to modernize their designs for the late 1930's, but it was not enough, unfortunately. Third place would be the "Christmas Coupe", I really like that one! And fourth would be the shaft drive bicycle. Would love to own one of those, too!
Beautifully displayed and quite interesting! Back in the 1960s, Harrah, an owner and operator of one of the largest casinos in Reno Nevada had perhaps the largest private auto collection at that time. And, for a nominal fee, one could tour his museum, which at that time had over 1200 vehicles including a 7 car steam train and an airplane. As a ten year old, I would spend the whole day with my parents going through the vast facility, we went on tours of the huge library that was full of maintenance manuals, repair and parts books, historical documentation, and other materials related to the automobiles displayed. The museum had on display the very car used in the movie THE GREAT RACE in all of its pristine glory. How I wish now that I could step into a time machine and go back with a 4k camera and photograph as you have done. Sadly, Harrah died and virtually all of his vast collection was sold off. I think for a while there was a much reduced display of his cars, but having not been back to Reno since 1980, I've lost track.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that I heard that police still exist but it’s nothing like it used to be because of what you said most of it was sold off unfortunately that happens a lot. My grandpa had a greenhouse empire he had probably six greenhouses total tons of property various different locations different forms and field food we used to go pick early in the morning go pick one day with the tomatoes next it would be green beans another day would be corn different fields had different things when my grandpa passed away his empire got sold off little by little now there’s nothing left except for the piece that I live on. It’s sad and I always think about what’s going to happen after is important to me once I’m gone. Same thing it’s going to get sold off because either a it’s too hard to keep going B it’s worth a lot of money and they would rather have the money instead of the items or see you run into hard times and you have to sell the stuff off just to survive.
The catalogues for the 3 Harrah Collection auctions are very interesting. Some of the vehicles are in the Imperial Palace Casino Collection in Las Vegas. Reno has a small museum of them also. The LeMay, Peterson, and Nethercutt collections may also contain a few of them. I don't know if any of them are in the Greenfield Museum exhibits. I always heard that a Pierce with free standing headlights is more valuable than one with fendermounts.
What fantastic cars! My favorite is going to be the coupe in the Christmas colors. It’s very jaunty. The reason some Pierce-Arrow cars came with stand-alone headlights is that the fender mounted headlights were actually illegal in some states, including New York. All cars sold in those states had the freestanding headlights beside the grill.
Great information thank you so much for sharing that I was wondering why they offered two different (at least two different) fender options with and without lights I just taught my daughter what Christmas colors (the term is she’s 6 she got a kick out of that term, she acts like a 10 year old)
The horn which leads to the driver, is indeed an acoustic intercom, and is in no way primitive, they were still standard fare on US capitol ships through WWII and possibly beyond? If a system works it needs no improvement, which is the takeaway. Horn loaded speaking tubes were remarkably effective, and still are.
@What it’s like I second that. My sister lived in England for about 5 months in 2019 and got pretty good at it AND at driving on the left side of the street. She was there on business. How about THAT?!
That is a nice one for sure. And that was about it for Pierce-Arrow as they made only around 40 cars in 1938 but they were really left over '37 models. No Sliver Arrrow unfortunately in that museum. I once read that they built just 5 of those luxurious cars of which 3 of them still exist.
I want to cover a silver arrow so bad but that’s like a white whale finding one would be really hard not to say that we didn’t do any white wheels on this channel I cover to Chrysler turbine car it’s probably the most in-depth Chrysler turbine car episode out there it’s just in the old format
@@What.its.like. Who knows, if you keep at it maybe one day you will get to cover a Silver-Arrow. It would be nice. BTW. I wonder what happened to those two other Silver Arrows that have since disappeared. Hard to imagine any of them going to the scrap yard as have many other fine automobiles from the past.
Did you notice the body work looks very similar to a lot of different cars that were also bodied by LeBaron I thought that was really interesting but I never saw a car with two rearview mirrors like that one that was the first time I ever saw that in the windshield to body proportions it almost looks like the car has a chopped roof from the factory just with the way that it was designed I’m gonna try to have the Land Rover episode for tomorrow and another building
One of the truly significant troubles with vehicles, till the 50s, was the 6 volt battery system with a positive chassis ground. This effectively led to the destruction of vehicles due to corrosion because of the battery polarity. All vehicles now are negative to ground, which diminishes the degree of corrosion, rather than encouraging it. The additional OOMPH (technical term) also allows for more cranking power for an engine start. Very important as American engines increased in displacement. 6V might start an 1100cc Volkswagen boxer engine of low compression, but to wake up a cold large capacity beast needs far more cranking amps than a 6V system can provide.
My favorite is the 1909 Runabout Model 24!…Never knew there was a brass era!!...Wow…as in 1926 Series 80 intercom!!!...Is there a simple 1933 or a 1937 Dodge Sedan in the museum?
I’m not sure if they had a Dodge there I couldn’t go in all the buildings I ran out of time I saw a 1926 Dodge four-door phaeton at the car cruise that they had after words I went there on Wednesday so I can go to the car show. But the owner wasn’t next to it I never shoot a vehicle without asking and that’s the way that this car show kind of was everybody kind of like walked around and stuff and then we were done seeing things they just left. And left earlier than some car shows around here. The coolest thing about that car was in the backseat was a child seat strapped in I thought that was awesome =)
If you ever get a chance to go up to Gilmore do it that place is absolutely incredible. You only see things that you ever read about there. They have Will Saint Clair. They got Duesenberg. They got all burns. They have a Tatra Place is absolutely incredible.
I wonder Jay, at what period did the US decide the road rules, and vehicle/steering wheel layout? For many lands it was determined by the country which supplied the vehicles commonly, such that, the commonwealth countries (apart from Canada for reasons of a near border) had their vehicles provided by Britain, which reflected the need to drive on the left. It is an odd cultural item I consider from time to time. Please pipe in if you have some interesting comments to add, anybody.
That’s interesting that sounds like the topic of a video I often wondered that too because being from Pennsylvania Pennsylvania was one of the first well it was the first to have a major interstate highway and from what I gathered from the comment section that in the very beginning it did not have a speed limit like the autobahn.
@@What.its.like. Speed limits seem to have become a thing at different times in different countries. Our governments make so much money out of speeding fines, they will never give it up. The really stupid thing is many of the limits were set in the 1960s and applied to a wide range of vehicles, that were between 30 and 5 years old. None of them have been reconsidered, and in a modern car, to be forced to drive at 50kmh because of speed cameras, it is no wonder drivers get annoyed. Britain, which has always had terrible roads, had an unlimited speed on their Motorways in the beginning, but they dropped it to 75 MPH. Modern well serviced cars automatically track freeway surfaces due to their design, so what is the deal?
From a safety viewpoint, it is almost impossible to make people understand how invisible they are to other traffic. By our nature we assume that we are at the centre of our world, and all extraneous viewers should be focused on our existence. For this reason, unless car companies are mandated to produce vehicles with stop lights and turn signals, they would not exist to this day. The more recent introduction of high brake lights allows for drivers who may be several car lengths behind to react to any early braking, preventing many rear end collisions. (the statistics bear this out.) The list goes on of course, for we are such poor judges of the universe in which we live. Try for example a world where we have to guess a torsional force, without a torque wrench, it would be impossible and important things would be falling to pieces all around us.
I never wanted one but broke down at one point and got one so much better than a truck in a lot of ways Cheaper to buy Cheaper to run, insure, register better gas mileage everything is under roof without buying a cap.. trucks are cool but can be money pits
I'll take a wild stab at it: Tonight's the Night, Rod Stewart?
Congratulations man you got it I thought for sure I was gonna pull a fast one on you guys.. That’s awesome =)
awesome job
Thank you for the tour, excellent 👍👍
=)
What a collection!
I know right
Very cool, really enjoyed the tour!!!!
Awesome =)
@@What.its.like. 👍👍
8:17 that's a speaking tube so the passengers can communicate with the chauffer.
I think something like that was used in Sunset Blvd, when Norma Desmond tells Max to stop at a men's clothing store.
The chain on the Pierce-Arrow bike is for starting.... 8:16 "intercom" from the back, that is exactly what that is.
The Bike, of course...
Awesome thank you so much for that information =) I love how compact that four was
G'day Jay, an exciting episode on a fabulous American automobile. You have the enthusiasm of youth to carry this off, and I have nothing but respect for you. Go west young man. You have very much sold me man, these Pierce Arrow vehicles are magnificent in their details. I really think you need to negotiate a situation when you are not simply another visitor, but a professional car review channel master (which you are Jay) and get some spare time with these beauties, with engine images and sitting inside showing and describing the controls and gauges. You deserve more as do we, your loyal audience, surely? These cars are boutique babes needing a thorough examination.
I want nothing more than to go west I’m not sure if that’s going to be this year though I got a lot of stuff going on this summer I really wanna go though I thought about getting the kids and taking the Prius across country to see how much it would cost to take a Prius cross country
The Gilmore auto museum is the same distance as it is to Classic autumn also is 5 1/2 hours it’s actually a little bit further it’s about six hours up the road. I travel a lot to do these cars so I bought a Prius because it’s good on gas. On the trip up there one way it cost me $25 on the way back it cost more for some reason the only thing that I did different was I use cruise control on the way back I drove like a complete idiot on the way there like weaving in and out of traffic because people get in the passing lane and they just sit there it’s one of my biggest pet peeve’s. Another one is if I’m traveling at 55 miles an hour if you pull in front of me you better be going 55 miles an hour or I’m going to pass you. I hate that as well
Yeah one day I would love to do more in-depth tour of these cars beings that there’s are at a museum I couldn’t get in them I couldn’t get the glovebox test or anything like that.
@@What.its.like. You covered my two pet peeves as well. I got stuck behind a complete novice driver in his shitty little rattle box one day, and the 5 lanes were blocked with traffic, and except for him driving illegally slow (75 KMH instead of 100 KMH, it really pissed me off, I was retuning from a 3 1/2 HR drive with a dead coil pack on my V6 engine, I also had the flu, so my patience was really tested. He was shocked at having to move aside, as if I was some kind of thug, which I am not. Follow the road rules. Everything is easier.
The drivers in the 3rd world are funny/terrifying. The side of the road you drive on is arbitrary, especially near the crest of a hill, and everybody is polite, because they all drive like this.
That is honestly my biggest pet peeve driving it is legal here and less you’re passing a car honestly if I was in charge of the rules I would change the speed limit to 85 mph if anybody was going over that that wouldn’t be my main concern my main concern would be the people in the passing lane that are just camped there trying to police everybody else they would get a ticket in points on their license for every mile per hour slower they were driving in the car they were trying to pass like if they are trying to pass a car that is going 50 miles an hour and they are going 50.1 miles Per hour to overtake the cop their ass is getting points honestly those are the people that caused the accidents
Thank you as always! Of all, the Model 54 near the end - Wowsa! Thanks for sharing the cabinet - beautiful workmanship sir!!!! ~ Chuck
Thank you so much it means the world to me that you liked a Cabinets have a busy day today I shot a wedding yesterday I was a photographer, I have to build a big custom cabinet today but the good thing is they don’t want it painted or stained or anything I just want it natural
1909 Runabout 👍 another great episode...✌️👋👋
Great choice glad you dig this episode =)
They're all really beautiful creations, I think I'd choose the '30 Model B Club Sedan, that interior is gorgeous!🤩 Very nice cabinet! 😎 Video
Sweet choice =)
Glad you dig the cabinet I don’t do a lot of craft shows I have a big one coming up in August when I do that I’ll have multiple pieces I’ll show you guys everything that I do or most everything I build a lot of custom stuff
Hi Jay!: GREAT to see all the great Pierce procucts! From their mega-cool shaft drive bicycle, to the 1937 sedan, one of the last! My WYR would also be the LeBaron sedan (neat body similar to some of the great Murphy bodies used on Duesenbergs, etc.) Second is the 1937 sedan (color scheme isn't the best,, but I kind of like the body style) Pierce was trying to modernize their designs for the late 1930's, but it was not enough, unfortunately. Third place would be the "Christmas Coupe", I really like that one! And fourth would be the shaft drive bicycle. Would love to own one of those, too!
The chocolate colored Le Baron sedan looks literally delicious.
The body looks very similar to I Duesenberg model J it just looks like the roof is a little lower like the cabin part
Beautifully displayed and quite interesting!
Back in the 1960s, Harrah, an owner and operator of one of the largest casinos in Reno Nevada had perhaps the largest private auto collection at that time. And, for a nominal fee, one could tour his museum, which at that time had over 1200 vehicles including a 7 car steam train and an airplane. As a ten year old, I would spend the whole day with my parents going through the vast facility, we went on tours of the huge library that was full of maintenance manuals, repair and parts books, historical documentation, and other materials related to the automobiles displayed. The museum had on display the very car used in the movie THE GREAT RACE in all of its pristine glory. How I wish now that I could step into a time machine and go back with a 4k camera and photograph as you have done.
Sadly, Harrah died and virtually all of his vast collection was sold off. I think for a while there was a much reduced display of his cars, but having not been back to Reno since 1980, I've lost track.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that I heard that police still exist but it’s nothing like it used to be because of what you said most of it was sold off unfortunately that happens a lot. My grandpa had a greenhouse empire he had probably six greenhouses total tons of property various different locations different forms and field food we used to go pick early in the morning go pick one day with the tomatoes next it would be green beans another day would be corn different fields had different things when my grandpa passed away his empire got sold off little by little now there’s nothing left except for the piece that I live on. It’s sad and I always think about what’s going to happen after is important to me once I’m gone. Same thing it’s going to get sold off because either a it’s too hard to keep going B it’s worth a lot of money and they would rather have the money instead of the items or see you run into hard times and you have to sell the stuff off just to survive.
The catalogues for the 3 Harrah Collection auctions are very interesting. Some of the vehicles are in the Imperial Palace Casino Collection in Las Vegas. Reno has a small museum of them also. The LeMay, Peterson, and Nethercutt collections may also contain a few of them. I don't know if any of them are in the Greenfield Museum exhibits. I always heard that a Pierce with free standing headlights is more valuable than one with fendermounts.
The yellow 1932 Model 54 convertible. A rolling piece of artwork. The way they added the Chrome to stuff and just that spare tire mount alone
What fantastic cars! My favorite is going to be the coupe in the Christmas colors. It’s very jaunty.
The reason some Pierce-Arrow cars came with stand-alone headlights is that the fender mounted headlights were actually illegal in some states, including New York. All cars sold in those states had the freestanding headlights beside the grill.
Great information thank you so much for sharing that I was wondering why they offered two different (at least two different) fender options with and without lights
I just taught my daughter what Christmas colors (the term is she’s 6 she got a kick out of that term, she acts like a 10 year old)
The 1929 burgundy with black accentuation, convertible is beautiful
Awesome choice =)
The horn which leads to the driver, is indeed an acoustic intercom, and is in no way primitive, they were still standard fare on US capitol ships through WWII and possibly beyond? If a system works it needs no improvement, which is the takeaway. Horn loaded speaking tubes were remarkably effective, and still are.
11:46 Is my favorite car . I like my cars a little bit on the scratchy side # untouched .
Cool! All the 1st cars are right hand drive.
I’ve always wanted to drive a right hand drive car it would be interesting =)
@What it’s like I second that. My sister lived in England for about 5 months in 2019 and got pretty good at it AND at
driving on the left side of the street.
She was there on business. How about
THAT?!
My favorite is the 1937 Peirce Arrow sedan.
Awesome choice lots of cool cars in that room =)
That is a nice one for sure. And that was about it for Pierce-Arrow as they made only around 40 cars in 1938 but they were really left over '37 models. No Sliver Arrrow unfortunately in that museum. I once read that they built just 5 of those luxurious cars of which 3 of them still exist.
I want to cover a silver arrow so bad but that’s like a white whale finding one would be really hard not to say that we didn’t do any white wheels on this channel I cover to Chrysler turbine car it’s probably the most in-depth Chrysler turbine car episode out there it’s just in the old format
@@What.its.like. Who knows, if you keep at it maybe one day you will get to cover a Silver-Arrow. It would be nice. BTW. I wonder what happened to those two other Silver Arrows that have since disappeared. Hard to imagine any of them going to the scrap yard as have many other fine automobiles from the past.
I like that 1937 model.
Sweet choice
The Le Baron club sedan as well.
Did you notice the body work looks very similar to a lot of different cars that were also bodied by LeBaron I thought that was really interesting but I never saw a car with two rearview mirrors like that one that was the first time I ever saw that in the windshield to body proportions it almost looks like the car has a chopped roof from the factory just with the way that it was designed
I’m gonna try to have the Land Rover episode for tomorrow and another building
Excellent video. I'll take the 1937 seven passenger sedan. I'm not crazy about the paint color, but the styling looks very art deco.
Totally agree =) glad you dig this episode
One of the truly significant troubles with vehicles, till the 50s, was the 6 volt battery system with a positive chassis ground. This effectively led to the destruction of vehicles due to corrosion because of the battery polarity. All vehicles now are negative to ground, which diminishes the degree of corrosion, rather than encouraging it. The additional OOMPH (technical term) also allows for more cranking power for an engine start. Very important as American engines increased in displacement. 6V might start an 1100cc Volkswagen boxer engine of low compression, but to wake up a cold large capacity beast needs far more cranking amps than a 6V system can provide.
Great information =) thank you so much for sharing that insight
My favorite is the 1929 133 Roadster.
Awesome choice =)
The 41 Limo, is it an aluminium body? It looks like it underneath the paint.
I was thinking the same thing but it I couldn’t find anything on the literature saying if it was aluminum or what the material was
My favorites: 1930 Club Sedan and 1937 Sedan.
Great choices =)
Intercom to the chauffeur
The old limousine that needs painting
17:51 It has the casket in a hearse vibe going on .
Whoever is at the wheel is going to be the last person to let you down.
Favorite is 1937 Seven Passenger.
Sweet =)
My favorite is the 1909 Runabout Model 24!…Never knew there was a brass era!!...Wow…as in 1926 Series 80 intercom!!!...Is there a simple 1933 or a 1937 Dodge Sedan in the museum?
I’m not sure if they had a Dodge there I couldn’t go in all the buildings I ran out of time I saw a 1926 Dodge four-door phaeton at the car cruise that they had after words I went there on Wednesday so I can go to the car show. But the owner wasn’t next to it I never shoot a vehicle without asking and that’s the way that this car show kind of was everybody kind of like walked around and stuff and then we were done seeing things they just left. And left earlier than some car shows around here. The coolest thing about that car was in the backseat was a child seat strapped in I thought that was awesome =)
The horn is for driver passenger communication. 🤓
I have this sense, that had I been a wealthy patron in America, I would most assuredly have had a Pierce Arrow Limousine.
I agree, minivans are greatly practical, more versatile than about any SUV!
I would have drove the truck but it needs a few things because apparently can’t just change rims and tires and everything be hunky dori
@@What.its.like. Ha!
Breathtaking American quality
If you ever get a chance to go up to Gilmore do it that place is absolutely incredible. You only see things that you ever read about there. They have Will Saint Clair. They got Duesenberg. They got all burns. They have a Tatra
Place is absolutely incredible.
I wonder Jay, at what period did the US decide the road rules, and vehicle/steering wheel layout? For many lands it was determined by the country which supplied the vehicles commonly, such that, the commonwealth countries (apart from Canada for reasons of a near border) had their vehicles provided by Britain, which reflected the need to drive on the left. It is an odd cultural item I consider from time to time. Please pipe in if you have some interesting comments to add, anybody.
That’s interesting that sounds like the topic of a video I often wondered that too because being from Pennsylvania Pennsylvania was one of the first well it was the first to have a major interstate highway and from what I gathered from the comment section that in the very beginning it did not have a speed limit like the autobahn.
@@What.its.like. Speed limits seem to have become a thing at different times in different countries. Our governments make so much money out of speeding fines, they will never give it up. The really stupid thing is many of the limits were set in the 1960s and applied to a wide range of vehicles, that were between 30 and 5 years old. None of them have been reconsidered, and in a modern car, to be forced to drive at 50kmh because of speed cameras, it is no wonder drivers get annoyed. Britain, which has always had terrible roads, had an unlimited speed on their Motorways in the beginning, but they dropped it to 75 MPH.
Modern well serviced cars automatically track freeway surfaces due to their design, so what is the deal?
Your guess about the speaking tube was correct!
Awesome I’m learning lol =)
What peirce arrow is on top 1:44
I honestly don't know
Gerry Rafferty Baker Street ? Just a wild guess .
Rod steward tonight’s the night
1937
From a safety viewpoint, it is almost impossible to make people understand how invisible they are to other traffic. By our nature we assume that we are at the centre of our world, and all extraneous viewers should be focused on our existence. For this reason, unless car companies are mandated to produce vehicles with stop lights and turn signals, they would not exist to this day. The more recent introduction of high brake lights allows for drivers who may be several car lengths behind to react to any early braking, preventing many rear end collisions. (the statistics bear this out.) The list goes on of course, for we are such poor judges of the universe in which we live. Try for example a world where we have to guess a torsional force, without a torque wrench, it would be impossible and important things would be falling to pieces all around us.
I’ve never met anyone that owns or has owned a minivan that doesn’t love it.
I never wanted one but broke down at one point and got one so much better than a truck in a lot of ways
Cheaper to buy
Cheaper to run, insure, register better gas mileage everything is under roof without buying a cap.. trucks are cool but can be money pits
@@What.its.like. Much safer as well.
Why on earth do so many vehicles carry the badge of 'Alcoholics Anonymous America' I wonder? Just kidding Jay.
Haha =)