Petrify still gets the Silver-medal for "new best Pacifism". Planar Disruption from All Will Be One is still in the lead for me because it also hits planeswalkers and does the same effect.
I think cooped up from WOE is better than both and it isn't even close. The fact that you can actually exile the creature is very key and makes it closer to a real removal rather than just a pacifism.
@@1ryb360 I heavily disagree. At that point you are paying 5 to exile the creature, which is a terrible rate - you can literally cast a Sunfall for this cost. Planar Disruption hits 3 card types, petrify hits 2, while cooped up only hits 1 (creatures, which the other options hit as well). Plana disruption is definitely the closest to being playable, and cooped up is imo straight up bad.
@@Icameron259 I mean if we are talking constructed I dont think any pacifism effect is close to playable at all unless you are playing an aura commander deck (even then you often have better options) so it's kinda pointless to compare them outside of limited. And in limited I would much much rather prefer to actually get rid of the creature than leaving it on the battlefield.
Trumpeting Carnosaur might also be a good consideration for the Standard Reanimator deck, as it’s a good reanimation target (good body with card advantage) that also acts as removal while naturally putting itself in the graveyard.
Petrify actually isn’t the best pacifism. That honour goes to Planar Disruption from All will be one, since it also hits planeswalkers. That being said, it’s still solid.
100% lmao. Though they both have a niche in pauper, they don't say "Unless mana ability", meaning you can enchant the artifact lands and basically have a sinkhole for decks like affinity.@@collinbeal
4:25 all the Jund Gods will go great in my Henzie brew. You get a few decent attacks, a card draw, and they transform in a land later. Absolute slam dunks.
Axonil does have some upside with some common Henzie cards though, which maybe gets it the cut. Inferno Titan can flip it back, and also if it's in play because it was flipped back by something else or reanimated or cheated out, it make Inferno Titan deal a truly absurd amount of damage. And while you can't flip it back with end step fling effects, you can with main phase ones. MOM Ayara is a good example there. I'm not sure it quite makes the cut because Henzie has so many good cards, both in general and from this set in particular, but I do think it's more practical than what you might think.
My understanding is that because it checks multiple sources it doesn't need the damage to all happen at once. We'll see for sure with the release notes I'm sure, but based on Magic's wording norms Titan should work.
The Trumpeting Carnosaur probably doesn't make the cut in Mississippi River since it has to resolve to get the discover trigger where the upside of the cascade spells is that they simply need to hit the stack to put 2 copies of creative technique on the stack as well.
7:30 It removes the best part of the Mississippi River, it forces your opponent to have 2 counters!! the dino just needs one counter to stop the River.
There was one last ixalan that makes them untargetable similar to the disturb legend. I think WotC is scared to print a graveyard protection spell because it could protect some really unfair strategies in eternal formats
Nah, you live on the edge you die on the edge, graveyard synergy is way too good of an archetype to not have easily accessible counterplay. If you want graveyard exile protection, play Syr Konrad.
I think WatC made a mistake making graveyard hate so effective in the beginning. Exile the whole graveyard for like 1 mana? They should have scaled it by the card and the mana cost from the beginning. Like "exile up to 5 cards from a graveyard." @@mathkittie6472
Contested game ball is pretty decent in standard sideboards vs control, it slots into any deck and if they want to try beanstalk syncopate cute stuff this comes down early and can draw up to 5 cards, a midrange deck could definitely consider it in place of a removal spell.
I don't think you'd play Carnosaur in Mississippi river. It's discover ability is an ETB, rather than an on-cast (like I believe all cascade triggers are, as well as the demonstrate ability). The strength of the Miss deck was that thanks to cascade/discover going on the stack on cast, generally opponents needed multiple counterspells to actually stop it from going off. A single counterspell stops both the Carnosaur and its discovery (because it never enters the battlefield for it to trigger).
Simple: It uh… isn’t. Seth probably just forgot about it since there’s like 35 bajillion of these auras at this point, just slightly different from each other
2 mana at the beggining of precombat means that you loose the mana at the end of your combat phase :). I'm baffled that safron olive did not see it right of the bat. Most of the time the cards is a 5/3 for 4, at this rate even the ward is not that good, dies to strangle for 3 mana which is still a raw tempo loss even on curve sometimes.
I was looking for this comment. Im a bit confused about the wording. Beginning of precombat main phase. And Seth reaction also dont add up. So is it pre combat phase or pre main phase.
Maybe Corpes of the Lost can be good in a Stax style / Doom foretold like deck, which aims to get overall mediocre enchantments but with an ETB effects onto the battlefield.
Against the Odds Trumpeting Carnosaur? No spells under 6 mana except Quintorius and blink spells, use channel and discounting cards to fill out the shell, win the game on the spot if you can resolve the dinosaur?
I'm not so sure anymore if you're better known as SaffronOlive.. I think at this point WE ALL know you as Seth.. we address you as Seth, I hardly ever hear anyone say "Yah You know SaffronOlive from MtgGoldfish...? " it's always Seth and I think maybe it's time to full on embrace it considering you do panels and content and podcasts and stream... just an idea you know? You've always been Saffronolive so it's easy to just refer back to that but I speak for the masses I believe when I say you're Seth to us !! Your loyal and wonderful and extremely happy fan base!! Thank you for everything you do and I hope I didn't overstep a boundary by ranting about this. It comes from. Respect.
See I think corpses of the lost is subtly powerful in that it forces control to play sorcery speed removal otherwise they’re gonna have to deal with the 3/2 again. It’s basically a 3/2 haste with upside and recursion for 3 I think it’ll do well in mono black as a good way to close out grindy games.
I think it combos well with the previous Bargain mechanic. It's not exceptional by any standard, but at least any changeling can get haste in black now.
I mean contested game ball is basically Mazemind tome right? Like most of the time you were paying 2 mana for the card draw effect Though I understand that card was mostly used in control decks for the added life gain at the end, Game Ball just seems like it's a version of that for more aggressive decks right?
Vineyard Dinosaur! Dinos will definitely be able to drop lots of big chunky creatures, but I am worried about how it will match up against wraths. I think unironically souped up dreadmaw will be a super important player for dinos since it'll refill your hand often.
I think it's getting obvious that Wizards is getting away from Standard.Could be wrong, but the amount of cards that benefit Commander than Standard is wild.
Ive been thinking about the wording of discover a lot over the past few days and I think we're overhyping it. I'm more interested in descend, but also I am filthy dredge player :)
I feel like you might be a little too high on the green god because it feels similar to needing city's blessing. The problem I see is that unlike city's blessing, you can lose the 10 permanent count threshold.
If every box topper were value, then the cost of the boxes would increase to match. If every box had two $100 bills in it, then they aren't going to sell the box for $150. Understand? There has to be junk. It's a lottery, not a charity.
The green god isn’t even a watered down version of Gishath. It’s literally just a better version. It does the same thing without restriction (which is what holds Gishath back), it costs less mana, and doesn’t really die. Only thing it doesn’t have is the haste and there’s plenty of ways around that. I really despise modern card design philosophy.
Isn't invasion of Zendikar just better than the raptor. Ok you don't get the body but you get the lands forever and the battle lives on after they sunfall your raptor and you get nothing
I love spoiler season but I hate that the regularly scheduled programming is affected. But I get it you guys prob get way more traffic off these videos.
yay, cave worms. maybe black Aragorn can delve into a cave to fight a worm. MTG is ruined. Anyone know a comparable non-woke, non-price gouging alternative? MTG is ruined.
Why does this guy speak like this, no way this is his normal voice... Video is great but its so hard to listen to him, does he think he's speaking to 4yr olds?
You all want to know what the real problem is you people about these new sets? You’re too excited about these cards for the wrong formats. When almost everyone is saying how it “just fits perfectly” into whatever mash up of commander cards they have made into a deck. You know you have a real problem. EDH is a terrible format and is unbearably boring. You all need to be excited for the formats that actually matter. EDH is NOT one of these formats.
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Petrify still gets the Silver-medal for "new best Pacifism". Planar Disruption from All Will Be One is still in the lead for me because it also hits planeswalkers and does the same effect.
It actually does stop mana abilities too, it’s just straight up better
@@shrexmas "Do nothing"-ing a planeswalker to me is worth more than fully "turning off" a mana-rock/dork.
I think cooped up from WOE is better than both and it isn't even close. The fact that you can actually exile the creature is very key and makes it closer to a real removal rather than just a pacifism.
@@1ryb360 I heavily disagree. At that point you are paying 5 to exile the creature, which is a terrible rate - you can literally cast a Sunfall for this cost. Planar Disruption hits 3 card types, petrify hits 2, while cooped up only hits 1 (creatures, which the other options hit as well). Plana disruption is definitely the closest to being playable, and cooped up is imo straight up bad.
@@Icameron259 I mean if we are talking constructed I dont think any pacifism effect is close to playable at all unless you are playing an aura commander deck (even then you often have better options) so it's kinda pointless to compare them outside of limited. And in limited I would much much rather prefer to actually get rid of the creature than leaving it on the battlefield.
Trumpeting Carnosaur might also be a good consideration for the Standard Reanimator deck, as it’s a good reanimation target (good body with card advantage) that also acts as removal while naturally putting itself in the graveyard.
Petrify actually isn’t the best pacifism. That honour goes to Planar Disruption from All will be one, since it also hits planeswalkers.
That being said, it’s still solid.
Yeah second best is still a high distinction, but this will see absolutely no constructed play until 2025 (if we don't get a better option by then 😅)
100% lmao. Though they both have a niche in pauper, they don't say "Unless mana ability", meaning you can enchant the artifact lands and basically have a sinkhole for decks like affinity.@@collinbeal
4:25 all the Jund Gods will go great in my Henzie brew. You get a few decent attacks, a card draw, and they transform in a land later. Absolute slam dunks.
Mostly agree although the red one will probably never flip back, to be fair he is still a wood elf of sorts at that point.
Thanks for this, my henzie deck looks forward to the additions
Axonil does have some upside with some common Henzie cards though, which maybe gets it the cut. Inferno Titan can flip it back, and also if it's in play because it was flipped back by something else or reanimated or cheated out, it make Inferno Titan deal a truly absurd amount of damage. And while you can't flip it back with end step fling effects, you can with main phase ones. MOM Ayara is a good example there.
I'm not sure it quite makes the cut because Henzie has so many good cards, both in general and from this set in particular, but I do think it's more practical than what you might think.
@@Kestral287 inferno titan cant, unless i misread, to flip back you need 4 damage at once, not in total.
My understanding is that because it checks multiple sources it doesn't need the damage to all happen at once. We'll see for sure with the release notes I'm sure, but based on Magic's wording norms Titan should work.
I have a Nikya, of the old ways 'oops all creatures' deck its literally only creatures and lands...Ojer is going into it. No question.
The Trumpeting Carnosaur probably doesn't make the cut in Mississippi River since it has to resolve to get the discover trigger where the upside of the cascade spells is that they simply need to hit the stack to put 2 copies of creative technique on the stack as well.
I agree, a counterspell hits this dino twice as hard
7:30 It removes the best part of the Mississippi River, it forces your opponent to have 2 counters!! the dino just needs one counter to stop the River.
25:28 we actually got a better version in ONE with Planar Disruption which also hits planeswalkers in addition to creatures and artifacts
I look forward to each of these preview videos. I feel fully informed for prelease and know what to look for opening packs day 1. Thank you
Surrak and Goreclaw can make a cool schinanagin with this God. Surrak gives him haste and trample to get over some smaller creatures.
Do you think graveyard decks need a protection spell for graveyard hate? Like phase out for a graveyard?
Maybe a permanent that gives cards in your graveyard Ward?
There was one last ixalan that makes them untargetable similar to the disturb legend. I think WotC is scared to print a graveyard protection spell because it could protect some really unfair strategies in eternal formats
Nah, you live on the edge you die on the edge, graveyard synergy is way too good of an archetype to not have easily accessible counterplay. If you want graveyard exile protection, play Syr Konrad.
Dennick still exists
I think WatC made a mistake making graveyard hate so effective in the beginning. Exile the whole graveyard for like 1 mana? They should have scaled it by the card and the mana cost from the beginning. Like "exile up to 5 cards from a graveyard." @@mathkittie6472
25:54 We just got almost this in Realmbreaker's Graps, which was this same card but didn't prevent mana abilities
Petrify is going to be so good in Pauper because you can hit your opponent’s artifact lands
I was very disinterested in Ixalan until today. 15:07 looks like an amazing Gruul Dinosaur ramp deck.
Contested game ball is pretty decent in standard sideboards vs control, it slots into any deck and if they want to try beanstalk syncopate cute stuff this comes down early and can draw up to 5 cards, a midrange deck could definitely consider it in place of a removal spell.
I think contested game ball has potential as a better mind stone in the sideboard against control decks that aren't threatening to take it.
I don't think you'd play Carnosaur in Mississippi river. It's discover ability is an ETB, rather than an on-cast (like I believe all cascade triggers are, as well as the demonstrate ability). The strength of the Miss deck was that thanks to cascade/discover going on the stack on cast, generally opponents needed multiple counterspells to actually stop it from going off. A single counterspell stops both the Carnosaur and its discovery (because it never enters the battlefield for it to trigger).
How is Petrify better than Planar Disruption????
Simple: It uh… isn’t.
Seth probably just forgot about it since there’s like 35 bajillion of these auras at this point, just slightly different from each other
I can't be the only one that says, "... probably better known as SaffronOoooolive" along with him
Isn't Petrify just a worse version of Planer Disruption?
T1 Ixallis Lorekeeper
T2 Topiary Stomper
T3 Humongous Raptor
T4 Ghalta, Stampede Tyrant (12/12 trample) or other 8mana spell
I havent played standard since 2016... But i may be convinced by this dinosaur deck
All these dinosaurs look best as reanimation targets
This is the best standard set in such a long time. Maybe since kamigawa neon. Power level is awesome and flavor and art. Chefs kiss
Ah perfect timing! I sit on toilet, I open youtube 😂
Pitiless Plunderer NEEDED a reprint. Im glad its still an uncommon.
thanks to your editor for moving you to the other side of the screen so as to not cover up the new cards 🙏
I was gonna comment about Planar Disruption, but it's already been pointed out, so... yeah. Planar Disruption!
2 mana at the beggining of precombat means that you loose the mana at the end of your combat phase :). I'm baffled that safron olive did not see it right of the bat. Most of the time the cards is a 5/3 for 4, at this rate even the ward is not that good, dies to strangle for 3 mana which is still a raw tempo loss even on curve sometimes.
I was looking for this comment. Im a bit confused about the wording. Beginning of precombat main phase. And Seth reaction also dont add up. So is it pre combat phase or pre main phase.
Isn’t planar disruption from ONE still better than petrify?
Yes it is. It did nothing, so I guess most people don't remember that it exists.
Think contested game ball could be good I'm the sideboard against draw go decks?
contested game ball seems like it'll most often show up in commander games where everyone agreed to pack it to my untrained eye. PLAY BALL!
Maybe Corpes of the Lost can be good in a Stax style / Doom foretold like deck, which aims to get overall mediocre enchantments but with an ETB effects onto the battlefield.
Closest we have is Braids. Which is possibly decent with Corpses, though Braids has a legion of good targets already.
Against the Odds Trumpeting Carnosaur? No spells under 6 mana except Quintorius and blink spells, use channel and discounting cards to fill out the shell, win the game on the spot if you can resolve the dinosaur?
I'm not so sure anymore if you're better known as SaffronOlive.. I think at this point WE ALL know you as Seth.. we address you as Seth, I hardly ever hear anyone say "Yah You know SaffronOlive from MtgGoldfish...? " it's always Seth and I think maybe it's time to full on embrace it considering you do panels and content and podcasts and stream... just an idea you know? You've always been Saffronolive so it's easy to just refer back to that but I speak for the masses I believe when I say you're Seth to us !! Your loyal and wonderful and extremely happy fan base!! Thank you for everything you do and I hope I didn't overstep a boundary by ranting about this. It comes from. Respect.
Indoors hoodie season already! It's so cold 😭
9:06 also great in Henzie
See I think corpses of the lost is subtly powerful in that it forces control to play sorcery speed removal otherwise they’re gonna have to deal with the 3/2 again.
It’s basically a 3/2 haste with upside and recursion for 3 I think it’ll do well in mono black as a good way to close out grindy games.
I think it combos well with the previous Bargain mechanic. It's not exceptional by any standard, but at least any changeling can get haste in black now.
I'm still wondering if a god sac ramp would work with these gods
So, are we just getting a slow cycle of aether channelers?
I am thinking that when Seth says "implications" he means "applications"?
I mean contested game ball is basically Mazemind tome right? Like most of the time you were paying 2 mana for the card draw effect
Though I understand that card was mostly used in control decks for the added life gain at the end, Game Ball just seems like it's a version of that for more aggressive decks right?
I didn't care about the previous ixilan sets, but the art is sooooo good in this set, I'm stoked
Also love all the cats for my rin and seri deck
Vineyard Dinosaur! Dinos will definitely be able to drop lots of big chunky creatures, but I am worried about how it will match up against wraths. I think unironically souped up dreadmaw will be a super important player for dinos since it'll refill your hand often.
I think it's getting obvious that Wizards is getting away from Standard.Could be wrong, but the amount of cards that benefit Commander than Standard is wild.
trumpeting carnosaur and etali
My prediction for best deck after the new set. Esper legends its op
16:27 I don’t CARE if it’s good or not, I CARE THAT ITS SKELETON TRIBE SUPPORT! THE SKELETON ANTHEM IS REAL!!!
Also changeling haste in black!
Ive been thinking about the wording of discover a lot over the past few days and I think we're overhyping it. I'm more interested in descend, but also I am filthy dredge player :)
I feel like you might be a little too high on the green god because it feels similar to needing city's blessing. The problem I see is that unlike city's blessing, you can lose the 10 permanent count threshold.
So are special guests going to show up in collector boosters? Or is it set boosters only?
Isn't carnosaur just a worse etali?
If every box topper were value, then the cost of the boxes would increase to match. If every box had two $100 bills in it, then they aren't going to sell the box for $150. Understand? There has to be junk. It's a lottery, not a charity.
The green god isn’t even a watered down version of Gishath. It’s literally just a better version. It does the same thing without restriction (which is what holds Gishath back), it costs less mana, and doesn’t really die. Only thing it doesn’t have is the haste and there’s plenty of ways around that.
I really despise modern card design philosophy.
all the exile based removal is probably why all the gods will be unplayable just like the kamigawa dragon
"Life... Uhhh... Finds a way..."
I want Phil and Brewer’s Kitchen back!
Dinos are sooooooo back im living for this 😂
Where is brewer's kitchen videos?
Idk if im a zoomer but playing/being prepared for bombs by t5 has always seemed reasonable to me
Isn't invasion of Zendikar just better than the raptor. Ok you don't get the body but you get the lands forever and the battle lives on after they sunfall your raptor and you get nothing
Seth didn't want to discuss Zoyowa, the cutest little guy. 😢
Green is so unplayable.
Maybe that 1 cmc dino mana dork helps but i doubt it. Removal is just too good. White black and rakdos stay the fun police.
Skeletal swarm #2 for less mana
Conspiracy theory time: Humongous Dinosaur would have been a 4/4 but was shifted to 5/4 due to Sheoldred
Humongous Raptor*
I love spoiler season but I hate that the regularly scheduled programming is affected. But I get it you guys prob get way more traffic off these videos.
Put him in jetmir
Has there EVER been a Standard SOOOOO hostile to Graveyard play? It like every 4th card just taks on hate fir free. 😒
Trumpeting carnisaur needed can't be countered.
Ayy so they finally revealed the green God, Mamá Coco.
The way he pronounces Palani sounds like he's saying panini
I'm just upset Kurzil's Flanker doesn't have flanking, what a flavor fail!
oh cool more duplicate mythics we can open..
This guy's voice 😵💫
++far too many commercials :"(
First!! Love your vids❤
Ugh come on wotc why are you doing this? This looks like it’s gonna be one of the most prince draft sets in years.
Removal at common and uncommon can basically always make it a pauper set
I don’t think it’ll be worse than MOM
I don't understand, does that mean good or bad?
@@Wyrm7774yeah lol, I don't know what it means for a set's draft to be "prince"
@@KopekemasterIt's basically a draft Environment dominated by single very powerful cards.
Give us something for historic dredge wotc
so a 6/5 trample for 5 is considered a bad creature nowadays because it needs to attack to do anything. Overpowered and boring.
freee palestine (dont delete my message)
yay, cave worms. maybe black Aragorn can delve into a cave to fight a worm. MTG is ruined. Anyone know a comparable non-woke, non-price gouging alternative? MTG is ruined.
Why does he talk like that
Why does this guy speak like this, no way this is his normal voice...
Video is great but its so hard to listen to him, does he think he's speaking to 4yr olds?
His voice is just kinda weird, he's been doing this for like a decade. Grow up.
@@wakassjak Grow up because I dislike something that you dont... Nice one Sanic, very cool!
You all want to know what the real problem is you people about these new sets? You’re too excited about these cards for the wrong formats. When almost everyone is saying how it “just fits perfectly” into whatever mash up of commander cards they have made into a deck. You know you have a real problem. EDH is a terrible format and is unbearably boring. You all need to be excited for the formats that actually matter. EDH is NOT one of these formats.
4:17 "Sure would be a shame if my WoE Cheeky House Mouse made it impossible for you to block my trample-damage God with any of your dinosaurs..."