One thing that I love is that Abeloth is the opposite of the Father. While the Son and Daughter are dark and light, the Father represents order and balance, while Abeloth represents choas. The family, as messed up as it is, really does balance itself out.
The more then that all she wanted was to stop the conflict and stay with her family forever despite being mortal and yes her choices did pull her away from her family it was just sad that they abandoned her without a second thought didn’t even try to help her she is neither light or dark she is chaos. She is a tragic character for sure.
I can’t remember where I saw the theory but I’ve heard that Abeloth could be why light and dark are so hard to balance. She’s literally there in the middle whispering in your ear to push you one way or the other because sitting in the middle is a direct threat to her position. If enough true grey Jedi massed together they may be able to beat her.
@@aaronzorrilla3798 he could do pretty well. His ability to tap into a force nexus like in Feel the Force Events let him pull off really broken moves. He broke from the dogma of the sith and has little to no exposure to Jedi hubris so his knowledge is based on firsthand experience taken at face value. He would likely need help from Luke or yoda to master meditation. You can’t just pull up on a point in space and find Abeloth. You have to basically astral project yourself to her. A group would be needed to do something to distract her because if she knows you’re coming you’re Dead. Star killer would have to find Mortis and get the Dagger from there as that’s likely the only way you can be sure her force essence is disbanded and it’s not just some apparition or avatar you’re destroying. It would be hard, drawn out, and fucking epic. But honestly when Luke did it that’s how it was too.
And she was weakend by her imprisonment and was still gaining her power back Also Luke did the heavy lifting and had to deal with Krayt treacheries too who would force drain him along with Abeloth and sometimes attack him
Also remember that Fett and Tahiri killed one (admitedly using imperial frigate orbital bombarment) too... plus one of her avatars was destroyed in the jedi temple at given time. also Saba and Tahiry were attacking the one that seemed to merge with the computer in the Jedi temple. I really loved Saba in the end... of the Fate of the Jedi series... Tahiry: I am no Jedi... Saba: Welcome back... and how she was exhillirated that there are now enough Sith to hunt in the galaxy... as with only two, it was unlikely she would ever get to hunt one. Saba Sebatyne...
Actually, the title of most powerful goes to a certqin group of entities known as the bedlam spirits. In the single comic they appear in, they demonstrated that they can: -Manipulate time and space and send individuals across time and space itself -Fuse and unfuse people togheter in a moment including potential armor (2 stormtroopers are victim of this) -turn one into crystal (another stormtrooper), or do so with a specific organ (leia's heart) -bring the dead back to life -create stuff from essentially nothing -it is implied that they cant die, potentially can't be killed as all are incorporeal They simply dont give a sh*t about anything nor want to dominate anything, thats why they haven't done anything so far.
In the unpublished novel called Supernatural Encounters, they definitely went "demon time" on the rest of the galaxy. And with their naive/twisted world (universal) views, they commit great acts of good and evil that change the galaxy and universe forever...
Abeloth is one of my favorite star wars characters. As much as I would love to watch her terrorize the galaxy . I don't trust Disney for 1 second not to mess her up like ( hold on let me get my list here) Luke, Han, Palpatine, Anikan Solo, as well as basic lore like the rule of 2.
For as far as i know, the sibblings represent the force's aspects, the father represents balance as we already know and abaloth represents the absence of balance, chaos in its pure form, balance, darkness and light are all considdered immortal forces in real life myhtos and religions, nd in many games light and dark and its endless struggle for a middleground is also immortal, chaos however is the spontaneous chaos, the unsertainty of everything, life and death what comes is impossible to know, good and evil both can happen yet neither can, a mortal becoming immortal? Whats nit more chaotic if an entoty grows insane from power and love and hate, abaloth is the manifestation of pure chaos, the brother would represent change, the daughter stacis and the father is order incarnate Thats how i always imagined the mother, the father, the son and the daughter to function
Abeloth is the Star Wars "Lovecraftian horror", while she is an interesting plot point for a little bit if there is no stopping her then you will just continue to either repeat the same instance every time the Star Wars universe ages another 1000 years or you will have to get someone up to that power, both things gets old as something "all powerful" makes for boring stories typically, its cheating the plot and requires a fanatical view of that entity to appreciate or to overlook the flaws in the story. Its on par with the issues in time travel. And quite honestly while Luke is the beloved boy of the Star Wars universe he also is about to that point in his power levels where you know nothing can really stop him, maybe slow him down for a few minutes, but he'll just get a new power to overcome that thing or find out he is already strong enough.
I saw a fan art that was really cool it was a picture of anakin ahsoka and a rebooted version galen marek all 3 representing the mortis gods. Think it would be amazing to see it actually happen. Ahsoka taking the daughters power and galen the sons power and anakin guiding them in order to fight abeloth.
@@PedroLucas-mg5je agreed would like to see him rebooted as a inquisitor and then secret assassin for vader put him on ahsoka's level of power would really enjoy to see those two team up in the ahsoka show
@@midnght8036 IF one day Filoni and Faverau actually fixed things to the point they can bring in Abeloth, AND not f-up who and what she really is and can do, this would be a really tough one! There may be other ways, but, the one I see right now is some major World Between Worlds shuffling around, immence changes! Without EU Luke Skywalker and Darth Krayt, it'll be really difficult! MAYBE properly trained Adult Grogu, I have no idea! Besides him, they will need to pull in EVERY powerful Force User that they can, without breaking the Star Wars Universe in the process! To make a BELIEVEABLE Abeloth movie, could be the toughest thing they have ever done!
When you said Luke dies from force projection made me sick, they basically took away all the hard work years of books and comics and just dumped it down the drain for that. Disney is not cannon IMO
I gave up on Disney when they made the ak 47 as a blaster model I was like yup there out of ideas let's wait until they die out so Lucas can get control of his set again.
I think it's kinda up in the air still for abeloth to be canon still. I mean we got the son, daughter and father as canon already . She could still exist out there in the star wars mythos without everyone's knowledge already and just awaits to be discovered or awakened
Star wars legends Lore : *LUKE* *SKYWALKER BATTLES THE GODDES* *OF DEATH IN THE SHADOW REALM* Star wars Disney lore : he drink some green milk from a dr suess ocean cow
Interesting... when the Darkside create the Empress Palpatine or the Dark Rey vision, the evil version had a mouth like Abeloth. Maybe it's a reference of the Dark entity. Maybe that was Abeloth trying to manifest her cruel intentions.
@@starwarsguy9803 Oh, S%#@! IF Abeloth EVER was put back into canon, the Galaxy itself would be in VERY, BIG , TROUBLE! One of the only ways that anyone could stand a chance, is by using the World Between Worlds! Because, right now, we don't have Grandmaster Luke Skywalker or Darth Krayt! That place would be very important! WAY more people would get pulled through certain portals, like when Ezra Bridger saved Ahsoka's life in her duel against Darth Vader! One part could be saving Ben Solo! Now, going from people we DO have right now, this would be years later, a properly trained Grogu! Also, bringing in Ezra Bridger and Thrawn! Thrawn could help out with tactics, he was one of the very best in the entire Galaxy! Of course, Ahsoka Tano! Oh, man, I just thought of something! Imagine poor Poe Dameron, when he learns of Abeloth! He thought the Emperor returning was bad, that would be NOTHING compared to the frickin' Queen of the Stars herself! OH! Finn trained as a Jedi, because he's obiviously Force-Sensitive! They can go SO FAR with this! Of course, it'll have to wait until KK is gone, and Faverau/Filoni run Star Wars! My imagination went WILD with this one!
Since hearing about it, I've been hoping/expecting Abeloth to show up in The High Republic. Technically, in a way, an ancient being HAS appeared, that has devastating supernatural powers...esp. for The Jedi. However, I still want the entity of Abeloth to make an appearance in that initiative, or in another epic tale.
Now it begs the question, what would happen if anakin or luke drank from both nexus’? Seeing as anakin was able to subdue the children, by channeling the force of their world. If that’s what happens if some “servant” drinks from them, imagine the chosen one lmao
I know that this is because of my lack of knowledge of canon but I've always enjoyed the simplicity and mystery of Star Wars. The MCU is exhausting in how it continues to layer on more powerful characters and insane backstory. I appreciate how this channel does a great job in clearly telling all these stories, making it more palatable but I wish I had never come across this particular video.
@@davidhatcher7016 the galaxy would be better off without the force as it would have a better chance of survival, there wouldn’t be a war between the Jedi and Sith, only myths of their stories. Over time, forgotten altogether.
That’s actually mentioned in the legends. Luke theorized it’s probably the only thing that can kill her for good but he and the Jedi would have to spend their lives searching for it.
Abeloth, a poor broken woman who ruined herself and the galaxy for the chance to stay with her family... Just imagining how it must've been for her makes my eyes tear up and my throat crack and falter.. Just.. fuck.. Poor girl.. ;-;
If Abeloth gets canon and in the future films, imagine Insidious now that would be awesome and terrifying and really shows how powerful and horrific she is
I always thought that bringing "balance to the force" should have meant the Jedi and the Sith realizing the necessity of the existence of the other I order for the universe to work. What Abaloth did with the Daughter and Son kind of illustrated that. Unfortunately this is lost in Legends.
Damn bruh could you imagine if, in like the 8th or maybe 9th movie, it was revealed that the big baddie behind the scenes was mo f**kin Abeloth?! Instead of ol' Palps? That woulda been soo so great.
The maw cluster was created to imprison her, correct? And that's interesting about center point station, never knew it was created to capture abeloth, just knew it was used during the war against the yuuzhan vong
Disney has consistently proven they can't make a decent star wars movie or show. Let alone portray a bad guy that isn't a cheesy, typical and boring character with no real arc or point. I wouldn't want to see them ruin this character
I would love to see her kind of behind the scenes influencing the emperor from a far pulling string... like thro her eyes an then she comes out full force after the last Skywalker... showing she's been alive alllllll this time...
Wow that was a really complicated story well explained & told. I love that Episode of The Clone Wars series when parts of this is actually shown. Once again, amazing video Mate! (Keep it up!)
Abeloth would for sure fit in with the Ahsoka series as Ahsoka often hangs out in the Mortis Gods’ realm. If she was in Episode 9 instead of Palpatine, Kylo Ren and Rey would have to fight her. However, Kylo Ren cannot turn back to the light side if they fought Abeloth instead of Palpatine.
We’ll she’s a Goddess many would serve. If she was cannon she’d never be stopped. They’d have to make every sigh and Jedi into a hack like Superman to even come close to hindering her.
Excerpt from Supernatural Encounters: *"Wutzek’s words repeated in Tilotny’s mind, and even as she was dying, she found a means in which to fulfill them and recover again a lost piece of her. Yet, she would not use it to reshape her own form, but to give it to that of her very last offspring. In those final moments she found again a kind of love amidst the pain and horror, and sacrificed herself for this one final birth, one final shape, which would take the form she had so prized. Into her beloved offspring’s mind, she implanted not only her beauty but the keys to her survival."* *"The infant girl that emerged was beautiful, but stricken by the grief of her dying parent and overcome by the loneliness that followed, but always she kept her mother’s instructions deep within her mind: dissimulation, charm, and beauty would be the keys to her ascension. Violence the means by which she would maintain it. War the summons that would bring her back time and again. She would survive and triumph, for the galaxy was hers to rule, as it had been her mother’s."* *"Tilotny named her daughter Mourning, and it was only slightly altered in later times when her true nature became known and she was called by the Killiks the vain, evil one: Abeloth."*
I would love to see this in a movie/show. Getting to see more Master Luke, as well as maybe his adventures with Ben Solo instead of his son Ben. Perhaps the whole bit could originate with the destruction of Alderon
Abaloth must be inspired by the Ancient Babylonian goddess Tiamat, the mother dragon. The stories are almost identical. Tiamat gave birth to the world through her husband, the god Marduk. When her children, the gods, turned on Marduk and cut him to pieces with an axe, she stood by them because she valued them more than her husband. The only thing she cared about was her family’s love. But eventually they turned on her too. The betrayal made her go insane with rage and grief. She transformed into a giant dragon and tried to kill the children who had forsaken her. She was defeated and they tore her body up and it became the earth itself
The Fate of the Jedi series in which the majority of this content is from was amazing. To this date in my opinion the best series I ever read. I was actually upset waiting for the next book in real time back then. I even bought the books on cd and converted to files. With the added sound effects it made it 10x even more enjoyable. So yea, if Disney would pull their heads out of their backsides and create from those content....man that would be next level.
TH-cam recommend me one of your videos a while ago and I’ve been binging Clone Wars series for days now. I wonder what would the storyline for the galaxy looks like if Anakin stayed with the family and kept the Son in check. Also just realized maybe Qui Gon wasn’t so dumb after all perhaps he sensed that Anakin was destined to balance the force on that planet, but he wanted to stay with the Jedi and Padme so his fear lead to anger and so on.
It's odd. By having partaken in both a dark and light nexus of the Force, you'd think Abeloth would be a being that shows traits and uses powers of both sides of the Force, and dare I say constantly at conflict with herself over channeling two seemingly contradictory manifestations of the force. However, in her madness, she seemed to only draw up on the dark side of the Force to act and her malevolence and want to spread her suffering makes it seem she has rejected the light.
Usually I would make a “shes second in power next to the unlimited power of the senate!” Joke but Disney ruined it for me with, not one, but two lightsabers. Stupid!
IF Abeloth The Mother were considered Canonical in the mainstream SW Universe, she could be the main reason why Palpatine was able to return in the sequel Trilogy. That being said, I can also tie in that just as Anakin Skywalker is “The Son” of the Cosmic Force, Palpatine can also be the “Son” of Abeloth. Which explains why Palpatine is “All of The Sith” when he dueled against his clone granddaughter Rey.
A lot of people get this story wrong but you got all the facts straight. The only thing I might add is that to eventually stop abeloth, Luke and Darth krayt did need help from Jaina and leia by killer her avatar to weaken her
I propose her being introduced as a whisper to anyone that travels close to lure them, take their life/force to make her strong enough to pose a threat in the known Galaxy
Can we imagine if Valkorion or Palpatine drank from the Font of Power. The display would be awesome to behold!!! Would make for a durn good Stars Wars version of What If!!
I had an idea for a Star Wars series that (roughly summarized) beings together legendary people across the Star Wars Legends and Canon timelines to either converse or duel with one another. The beings hosting and making such reality defying stunts possible would be the powerful and mischievous Son and Daughter duo. The beings they want to know more about and have meet other people are "duplicated" and plucked out of their respective timelines and brought to a small pocket dimension to talk or battle. Some encounters I'd personally like to see are: - Darth Malgus & Darth Vader - Grand Master Luke Skywalker & Grand Master Satele Shan - Jango Fett & Cassus Fett - Grand Master Nomi Sunrider & Grand Master Yoda - Obi-Wan Kenobi & Exar Kun - Mace Windu & Ulic-Qel Droma - Count Dooku & Lana Beniko - Aleema Keto & Assajj Ventress - and a LOT more [sorry for Legends bias]
I hope it is something so simple as a "Legends to Canon" pull, like Abeloth. I feel there is a certain beauty to Abeloth, and very tragic back story. I just hope it isn't a possession story arc with Ezra. Also, still waiting for the send off of Baylon. Ray has made an impact, and can't be replaced.
Correction: Luke did not force the black hole to collapse on itself...he caused it to engulf the Vong tank emitting the black hole by moving the molecules around it causing it to act irratically. This feat also caused luke to need to rest as it took everything out of him. I belive this was on Dantooine during the initial wave of the invason.
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One thing that I love is that Abeloth is the opposite of the Father. While the Son and Daughter are dark and light, the Father represents order and balance, while Abeloth represents choas. The family, as messed up as it is, really does balance itself out.
To quote Baldur in God of War: "And here I thought my family was fucked up."
The more then that all she wanted was to stop the conflict and stay with her family forever despite being mortal and yes her choices did pull her away from her family it was just sad that they abandoned her without a second thought didn’t even try to help her she is neither light or dark she is chaos. She is a tragic character for sure.
@@McherriI mean abeloth off sorry if I pronounce her name wrong is the most tragic character not just in Star Wars but in all of fiction
I can’t remember where I saw the theory but I’ve heard that Abeloth could be why light and dark are so hard to balance. She’s literally there in the middle whispering in your ear to push you one way or the other because sitting in the middle is a direct threat to her position. If enough true grey Jedi massed together they may be able to beat her.
That's a fascinating theory actually.
I wonder how starkiller would fair against her assuming he trained for a battle against her
@@aaronzorrilla3798 he could do pretty well. His ability to tap into a force nexus like in Feel the Force Events let him pull off really broken moves. He broke from the dogma of the sith and has little to no exposure to Jedi hubris so his knowledge is based on firsthand experience taken at face value. He would likely need help from Luke or yoda to master meditation. You can’t just pull up on a point in space and find Abeloth. You have to basically astral project yourself to her. A group would be needed to do something to distract her because if she knows you’re coming you’re Dead. Star killer would have to find Mortis and get the Dagger from there as that’s likely the only way you can be sure her force essence is disbanded and it’s not just some apparition or avatar you’re destroying. It would be hard, drawn out, and fucking epic. But honestly when Luke did it that’s how it was too.
@@aaronzorrilla3798 That would be an interesting fight actually...
It was probably the same channel since he made a video about her 5 years ago.
It actually took the aid of two sith, krayt helped Luke in beyond shadows while vestaara fought abeloth with Ben on abeloth’s planet
And she was weakend by her imprisonment and was still gaining her power back
Also Luke did the heavy lifting and had to deal with Krayt treacheries too who would force drain him along with Abeloth and sometimes attack him
@@newhybrid101 Legends Luke was a fucking walking tank, man
Also remember that Fett and Tahiri killed one (admitedly using imperial frigate orbital bombarment) too... plus one of her avatars was destroyed in the jedi temple at given time.
also Saba and Tahiry were attacking the one that seemed to merge with the computer in the Jedi temple.
I really loved Saba in the end... of the Fate of the Jedi series...
Tahiry: I am no Jedi...
Saba: Welcome back...
and how she was exhillirated that there are now enough Sith to hunt in the galaxy... as with only two, it was unlikely she would ever get to hunt one.
Saba Sebatyne...
@@Sotar80 and he still got pushed to the limit by an abeloth that was barely even trying to beat him
Umm you guys, i have experienced her before
I always wondered why a mother was missing from that family in Clone Wars. Now I know.
When she hits the wall
Father: Ight... Imma head out.
she was never really canon in the clone wars at the time
@@Big_Thony more like douche pilled.
If legends Grandmaster Luke says he's "1/1000th" as powerful as someone
You need to run
Bro read the book series, there’s parts in it that hint to abeloth without outright saying it’s her and it’s downright creepy.
@@sloth_smasher1879 I have read them
We know how OP Luke was in legends and if he's afraid then everyone should be afraid
He never made this claim.
@@sloth_smasher1879 What's the book series?
@@sv8729 Star Wars: Wrath of the Wiener Blaster
So much cooler than anything that Disney could come up with.
Agree and more menacing
Agreed it’s the reason why Disney and pre Disney Star Wars are 2 different animals.
it's a shame since they had so much potential.
You think they'd include her given their political leanings. Disney is so weird in what it does
@@SupersaiyanChristian true
Actually, the title of most powerful goes to a certqin group of entities known as the bedlam spirits.
In the single comic they appear in, they demonstrated that they can:
-Manipulate time and space and send individuals across time and space itself
-Fuse and unfuse people togheter in a moment including potential armor (2 stormtroopers are victim of this)
-turn one into crystal (another stormtrooper), or do so with a specific organ (leia's heart)
-bring the dead back to life
-create stuff from essentially nothing
-it is implied that they cant die, potentially can't be killed as all are incorporeal
They simply dont give a sh*t about anything nor want to dominate anything, thats why they haven't done anything so far.
In the unpublished novel called Supernatural Encounters, they definitely went "demon time" on the rest of the galaxy. And with their naive/twisted world (universal) views, they commit great acts of good and evil that change the galaxy and universe forever...
@@blackshogun272 is that novel actually canonical to legends?
@@michelecastellotti9172 when it's finished ✍️ and released it'll be 👍
@@blackshogun272 oh
Sounds like my kinda ppl!
Abeloth is one of my favorite star wars characters. As much as I would love to watch her terrorize the galaxy . I don't trust Disney for 1 second not to mess her up like ( hold on let me get my list here) Luke, Han, Palpatine, Anikan Solo, as well as basic lore like the rule of 2.
I really liked this one. It was longer than usual and more of a story than just a quick fact.
Disney: “No, it’s Palpatine”.
No for them its either the Father or the Whills
In legends its the Bedlam Spirits
For as far as i know, the sibblings represent the force's aspects, the father represents balance as we already know and abaloth represents the absence of balance, chaos in its pure form, balance, darkness and light are all considdered immortal forces in real life myhtos and religions, nd in many games light and dark and its endless struggle for a middleground is also immortal, chaos however is the spontaneous chaos, the unsertainty of everything, life and death what comes is impossible to know, good and evil both can happen yet neither can, a mortal becoming immortal? Whats nit more chaotic if an entoty grows insane from power and love and hate, abaloth is the manifestation of pure chaos, the brother would represent change, the daughter stacis and the father is order incarnate
Thats how i always imagined the mother, the father, the son and the daughter to function
I love the concept of Ableoth and she would be a better movies villain then what we got
I swear you've done this topic like 3 times already
Abeloth is the Star Wars "Lovecraftian horror", while she is an interesting plot point for a little bit if there is no stopping her then you will just continue to either repeat the same instance every time the Star Wars universe ages another 1000 years or you will have to get someone up to that power, both things gets old as something "all powerful" makes for boring stories typically, its cheating the plot and requires a fanatical view of that entity to appreciate or to overlook the flaws in the story. Its on par with the issues in time travel. And quite honestly while Luke is the beloved boy of the Star Wars universe he also is about to that point in his power levels where you know nothing can really stop him, maybe slow him down for a few minutes, but he'll just get a new power to overcome that thing or find out he is already strong enough.
You lack creativity
I saw a fan art that was really cool it was a picture of anakin ahsoka and a rebooted version galen marek all 3 representing the mortis gods. Think it would be amazing to see it actually happen. Ahsoka taking the daughters power and galen the sons power and anakin guiding them in order to fight abeloth.
Galen Marek is one of the Legends characters that TRULY deserves to be Recanonized by Disney!
@@PedroLucas-mg5je agreed would like to see him rebooted as a inquisitor and then secret assassin for vader put him on ahsoka's level of power would really enjoy to see those two team up in the ahsoka show
I would love that.
Can you link the fanart?
@Juggled rey sucks ......
Such an underrated character who’s story was never complete… 😞
Screw you, Disney
Yeah
This could be a great movie
@@midnght8036 IF one day Filoni and Faverau actually fixed things to the point they can bring in Abeloth, AND not f-up who and what she really is and can do, this would be a really tough one! There may be other ways, but, the one I see right now is some major World Between Worlds shuffling around, immence changes! Without EU Luke Skywalker and Darth Krayt, it'll be really difficult! MAYBE properly trained Adult Grogu, I have no idea! Besides him, they will need to pull in EVERY powerful Force User that they can, without breaking the Star Wars Universe in the process! To make a BELIEVEABLE Abeloth movie, could be the toughest thing they have ever done!
Knowing Disney they’ll bring her back just to get killed by Rey ☹️
They don't like you, either, dollface.
Let me just say. Some of the new photos not in your previous video are creepy as hell. It really shows how terrifying abeloth is.
When you said Luke dies from force projection made me sick, they basically took away all the hard work years of books and comics and just dumped it down the drain for that. Disney is not cannon IMO
Agreed. Disney acquiring Star Wars was and still is a punch in the gut to fans. We know they’ll bastardize the series for a quick buck and it sucks.
Luke was able to force project entire flagships and fleets and he dies from 5 minutes projecting himself, its just sad
I gave up on Disney when they made the ak 47 as a blaster model I was like yup there out of ideas let's wait until they die out so Lucas can get control of his set again.
Its became cannon as soon as Lucas became a sellout. Sorry he betrayed us all
Legends was never gonna be canon anyway. Lucas's original ST was gonna be different too.
I think it's kinda up in the air still for abeloth to be canon still. I mean we got the son, daughter and father as canon already . She could still exist out there in the star wars mythos without everyone's knowledge already and just awaits to be discovered or awakened
The Maw and the Killiks are also canon and the Killiks created Centrepoint Station
Star wars legends Lore : *LUKE* *SKYWALKER BATTLES THE GODDES* *OF DEATH IN THE SHADOW REALM*
Star wars Disney lore : he drink some green milk from a dr suess ocean cow
Interesting... when the Darkside create the Empress Palpatine or the Dark Rey vision, the evil version had a mouth like Abeloth. Maybe it's a reference of the Dark entity. Maybe that was Abeloth trying to manifest her cruel intentions.
no it wasn't. It can't be her because she's not cannon
@@wyattborden1377 But The Maw and the Killiks are so she will likely become canon
@@starwarsguy9803 Oh, S%#@! IF Abeloth EVER was put back into canon, the Galaxy itself would be in VERY, BIG , TROUBLE! One of the only ways that anyone could stand a chance, is by using the World Between Worlds! Because, right now, we don't have Grandmaster Luke Skywalker or Darth Krayt! That place would be very important! WAY more people would get pulled through certain portals, like when Ezra Bridger saved Ahsoka's life in her duel against Darth Vader! One part could be saving Ben Solo! Now, going from people we DO have right now, this would be years later, a properly trained Grogu! Also, bringing in Ezra Bridger and Thrawn! Thrawn could help out with tactics, he was one of the very best in the entire Galaxy! Of course, Ahsoka Tano! Oh, man, I just thought of something! Imagine poor Poe Dameron, when he learns of Abeloth! He thought the Emperor returning was bad, that would be NOTHING compared to the frickin' Queen of the Stars herself! OH! Finn trained as a Jedi, because he's obiviously Force-Sensitive! They can go SO FAR with this! Of course, it'll have to wait until KK is gone, and Faverau/Filoni run Star Wars! My imagination went WILD with this one!
To think Disney threw away this rich lore for "somehow Palpatine returned"
If a "resurrected Palpatine" was revealed to be the handiwork of Abeloth testing her powers, that would have been far more acceptable to me!
Since hearing about it, I've been hoping/expecting Abeloth to show up in The High Republic. Technically, in a way, an ancient being HAS appeared, that has devastating supernatural powers...esp. for The Jedi. However, I still want the entity of Abeloth to make an appearance in that initiative, or in another epic tale.
no, just no. disney would fuck it up. we don't need legends material being ruined by new star wars
So many events in clone wars built up to anakin becoming darth vader so perfectly. Him meeting the son and hearing his future voice was so cinematic
I imagine if Abeloth was canon but knowing Disney they wouldn't bother.
dibney bad
If they did disney would find a way to fuck it up
@@NoPrxssure I'm glad they didn't
I fear they would have Rey beat Abeloth alone by "believing in herself" or something like that.
@@BSM-vw6cf through the power of friend ship
The audio on your original Abeloth video from 6yrs ago was much better quality than this one . Which is weird . Still,good stuff
Now it begs the question, what would happen if anakin or luke drank from both nexus’? Seeing as anakin was able to subdue the children, by channeling the force of their world. If that’s what happens if some “servant” drinks from them, imagine the chosen one lmao
Honestly it's a very very interesting question though
I know that this is because of my lack of knowledge of canon but I've always enjoyed the simplicity and mystery of Star Wars. The MCU is exhausting in how it continues to layer on more powerful characters and insane backstory. I appreciate how this channel does a great job in clearly telling all these stories, making it more palatable but I wish I had never come across this particular video.
this is very understandable
In theory, do you think Kriea's plan of deafening the force might weaken her?
I think it would have, and I don’t think she would have cared even if it killed her.
After all, she’d see a galaxy without the Force.
@@MysteriousStrangerVA so us
@@davidhatcher7016 the galaxy would be better off without the force as it would have a better chance of survival, there wouldn’t be a war between the Jedi and Sith, only myths of their stories. Over time, forgotten altogether.
@@tsipher it wouldn't be much better
@@tsipher The conflict between Sith and Jedi are only one of many unending conflicts, getting rid of the force would not change anything.
I wonder if the mortis blade could’ve killed her like the ones.
That’s actually mentioned in the legends. Luke theorized it’s probably the only thing that can kill her for good but he and the Jedi would have to spend their lives searching for it.
@@sloth_smasher1879not to mention the ones seem to be reincarnating entities maybe it takes away much of their power
5:51 wtf lol, what a shift in artwork lol
Abeloth, a poor broken woman who ruined herself and the galaxy for the chance to stay with her family... Just imagining how it must've been for her makes my eyes tear up and my throat crack and falter.. Just.. fuck.. Poor girl.. ;-;
If Abeloth gets canon and in the future films, imagine Insidious now that would be awesome and terrifying and really shows how powerful and horrific she is
I propose making Abeloth look like Kathleen Kennedy, because that would be perfect.
Makes sense.
It's such an insult to Abeloth😂
@@quickclaw240 To be fair Aboleth check underneath her bed for Kathleen Kennedy.
@@m3tr0id86 afraid what she might do to her amazing background story.😂
@@quickclaw240 Hense why she checks under her bed.
So basically, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Ahsoka screwed everything up with their visit to Mortis. Those dummies were a menace! ;-)
j/k
Love seeing Star Wars content, keep it up!
I always thought that bringing "balance to the force" should have meant the Jedi and the Sith realizing the necessity of the existence of the other I order for the universe to work. What Abaloth did with the Daughter and Son kind of illustrated that. Unfortunately this is lost in Legends.
It's a shame that we never got anything beyond a novel with Abeloth. Either animated or live action content, I mean. You know. Something that moves.
Because dc is stuck in the imperium...we need someone with the audacity to move beyond that
Abeloth was great story telling but a missed opportunity for Star Wars to really embrace the psychological terror genre.
There’s still time.
Palpa, Nihilus and Vitiate check their beds whenever they go to bed.
Damn bruh could you imagine if, in like the 8th or maybe 9th movie, it was revealed that the big baddie behind the scenes was mo f**kin Abeloth?! Instead of ol' Palps? That woulda been soo so great.
The maw cluster was created to imprison her, correct? And that's interesting about center point station, never knew it was created to capture abeloth, just knew it was used during the war against the yuuzhan vong
Disney has consistently proven they can't make a decent star wars movie or show. Let alone portray a bad guy that isn't a cheesy, typical and boring character with no real arc or point. I wouldn't want to see them ruin this character
I would love to see her kind of behind the scenes influencing the emperor from a far pulling string... like thro her eyes an then she comes out full force after the last Skywalker... showing she's been alive alllllll this time...
Wow that was a really complicated story well explained & told. I love that Episode of The Clone Wars series when parts of this is actually shown. Once again, amazing video Mate! (Keep it up!)
Abeloth: Exists in Canon
Rey: How about no, I'm the only girl boss allowed here.
Abeloth: Understandable have a nice day. *dies*
Everyone knows how terrifying The High Ground can be.
ikr it one shot vader
Abeloth would for sure fit in with the Ahsoka series as Ahsoka often hangs out in the Mortis Gods’ realm. If she was in Episode 9 instead of Palpatine, Kylo Ren and Rey would have to fight her. However, Kylo Ren cannot turn back to the light side if they fought Abeloth instead of Palpatine.
I feel like she would fit better in Rey’s story post TROS
Great video. Great 9 book series (Fate of the Jedi) The Legendverse offers some great stories and would have been a better path for the sequels
Darth sidious will finally see how pure evil he really was to meet his match even he will be so scare of her
He will definitely be scared but I don’t think she’s more evil than him
Yeah she did have some love in her! At long he don’t cross her path and he will find out what it like to be Vader and mail
We’ll she’s a Goddess many would serve. If she was cannon she’d never be stopped. They’d have to make every sigh and Jedi into a hack like Superman to even come close to hindering her.
Excerpt from Supernatural Encounters:
*"Wutzek’s words repeated in Tilotny’s mind, and even as she was dying, she found a means in which to fulfill them and recover again a lost piece of her. Yet, she would not use it to reshape her own form, but to give it to that of her very last offspring. In those final moments she found again a kind of love amidst the pain and horror, and sacrificed herself for this one final birth, one final shape, which would take the form she had so prized. Into her beloved offspring’s mind, she implanted not only her beauty but the keys to her survival."*
*"The infant girl that emerged was beautiful, but stricken by the grief of her dying parent and overcome by the loneliness that followed, but always she kept her mother’s instructions deep within her mind: dissimulation, charm, and beauty would be the keys to her ascension. Violence the means by which she would maintain it. War the summons that would bring her back time and again. She would survive and triumph, for the galaxy was hers to rule, as it had been her mother’s."*
*"Tilotny named her daughter Mourning, and it was only slightly altered in later times when her true nature became known and she was called by the Killiks the vain, evil one: Abeloth."*
Wut
I think you left some grammar and other stuff out. It doesn't read smoothly.
I would love to see this in a movie/show. Getting to see more Master Luke, as well as maybe his adventures with Ben Solo instead of his son Ben. Perhaps the whole bit could originate with the destruction of Alderon
Abaloth must be inspired by the Ancient Babylonian goddess Tiamat, the mother dragon. The stories are almost identical.
Tiamat gave birth to the world through her husband, the god Marduk. When her children, the gods, turned on Marduk and cut him to pieces with an axe, she stood by them because she valued them more than her husband. The only thing she cared about was her family’s love. But eventually they turned on her too. The betrayal made her go insane with rage and grief. She transformed into a giant dragon and tried to kill the children who had forsaken her. She was defeated and they tore her body up and it became the earth itself
Maybe there is a small percentage of inspiration but tbh it's two very different stories.
The Fate of the Jedi series in which the majority of this content is from was amazing. To this date in my opinion the best series I ever read. I was actually upset waiting for the next book in real time back then. I even bought the books on cd and converted to files. With the added sound effects it made it 10x even more enjoyable. So yea, if Disney would pull their heads out of their backsides and create from those content....man that would be next level.
i don't think it would be disney friendly by the way you described her...
TH-cam recommend me one of your videos a while ago and I’ve been binging Clone Wars series for days now.
I wonder what would the storyline for the galaxy looks like if Anakin stayed with the family and kept the Son in check.
Also just realized maybe Qui Gon wasn’t so dumb after all perhaps he sensed that Anakin was destined to balance the force on that planet, but he wanted to stay with the Jedi and Padme so his fear lead to anger and so on.
We got close to seeing Abeloth in the Maw scene in Solo.
It's odd. By having partaken in both a dark and light nexus of the Force, you'd think Abeloth would be a being that shows traits and uses powers of both sides of the Force, and dare I say constantly at conflict with herself over channeling two seemingly contradictory manifestations of the force. However, in her madness, she seemed to only draw up on the dark side of the Force to act and her malevolence and want to spread her suffering makes it seem she has rejected the light.
She couldn’t become canon without it ruining everything… canon characters are too weak to deal with something like that
Amazingly i was watching the abaloth video from 2yrs ago when this came up. Im sensing a star wars conspiracy
I’d stop her. I’m built different.
I doubt you even realize this but you sir are doing very important work
There is so much more to this universe it seems. Great video.
Would be amazing to see a trilogy about this
Or just 1 good film film. Maybe start there.
Usually I would make a “shes second in power next to the unlimited power of the senate!” Joke but Disney ruined it for me with, not one, but two lightsabers. Stupid!
IF Abeloth The Mother were considered Canonical in the mainstream SW Universe, she could be the main reason why Palpatine was able to return in the sequel Trilogy. That being said, I can also tie in that just as Anakin Skywalker is “The Son” of the Cosmic Force, Palpatine can also be the “Son” of Abeloth. Which explains why Palpatine is “All of The Sith” when he dueled against his clone granddaughter Rey.
Or a "resurrected" Palpatine can be an avatar for her too...
"The MOST TERRIFYING and POWERFUL Entity In All of Star Wars"
Katherine Kennedy?
This series was my favorite series. I've read it at least 5 times.
What book is this from?
@@jasonluckett9187 it's from a series. It's called Fate of the Jedi. First book is called 'Outcast' I highly recommend them.
This is so cool and so fascinating who this creature is.
The Most Terrifying and Powerful Entity In All of Star Wars is Yoda on ketamine
She could've easily been a villain for like 6 movies, but disney and JJ went the easy cash way...
The fact that Disney had this at their disposal and decided to make the movies they did instead is gross
They should do a Star Wars horror series on the Unknown Regions. Of course, Disney could never allow something that brilliant to happen.
A lot of people get this story wrong but you got all the facts straight. The only thing I might add is that to eventually stop abeloth, Luke and Darth krayt did need help from Jaina and leia by killer her avatar to weaken her
Abeloth could be used to explain the clusterf**k that was Episode 9
😂
True man let's never mention ep 7 8 9 of star wars movies ever again. Abaloth enetity should force delte those 3 movies forever lol.
Abeloth
Eldritch horror mommy
Who’s here after Ahsoka Episode 8?
I originally thought that Snoke was an avatar of Abeloth. Missed yet another opportunity there, Disney.
That would have been awesome, and would have forgiven many sins from that film.
@@MysteriousStrangerVA Disney would have found a way to ruin it, so I'm glad that didn't happen.
@@taelim6599 Also true.
Would love to see her and Darth Sidious go head to head for ultimate power
Abeloth would oneshot him as would Luke at that point
Abeloth looks so scary........
😰
I propose her being introduced as a whisper to anyone that travels close to lure them, take their life/force to make her strong enough to pose a threat in the known Galaxy
Is there ever a light side version of these horrific monstrously over powered insane evil beings? It never seems like there is
The daughter was one
The dark is always more powerful. But you always end up paying for it.
@@joshuagottschalk8797 false
Anakin was. I can go into more detail
force priestesses from clone wars, he mentioned them
Me: I like learning about these characters.
People in the comments: DiSnEy RuInEd ThE cAnOn!
Can we imagine if Valkorion or Palpatine drank from the Font of Power. The display would be awesome to behold!!! Would make for a durn good Stars Wars version of What If!!
I had an idea for a Star Wars series that (roughly summarized) beings together legendary people across the Star Wars Legends and Canon timelines to either converse or duel with one another. The beings hosting and making such reality defying stunts possible would be the powerful and mischievous Son and Daughter duo. The beings they want to know more about and have meet other people are "duplicated" and plucked out of their respective timelines and brought to a small pocket dimension to talk or battle. Some encounters I'd personally like to see are:
- Darth Malgus & Darth Vader
- Grand Master Luke Skywalker & Grand Master Satele Shan
- Jango Fett & Cassus Fett
- Grand Master Nomi Sunrider & Grand Master Yoda
- Obi-Wan Kenobi & Exar Kun
- Mace Windu & Ulic-Qel Droma
- Count Dooku & Lana Beniko
- Aleema Keto & Assajj Ventress
- and a LOT more
[sorry for Legends bias]
Finally more legends content. The hell with Disney "canon"
5:57 Is the nopest f*cking image that ever noped on this channel... Thanks dude you can just rock me to sleep tonight...
I think she is tragic, i feel pity for her.
Abeloth is just lonely.
I’ll never consider Disney cannon, this is the real stories
Really makes you wonder if theres really much of a difference between the light and dark side.
5:53 why do you troll me with this meme? 😂
Can anyone do this just by drinking from some magical fountains?
Happy Friday everyone, let's go get it! Start the weekend right with some Star Wars🤙🏻
I feel like that should’ve been the last villain in the Sequels tbh🤦🏾
Entity: Rar!
Me: And what is your name dear?
I Abbalutely Abbaloth the Star Wars Universe, and also appreciated your storytelling very much:)
Keep it up! Way to go!
I hope it is something so simple as a "Legends to Canon" pull, like Abeloth. I feel there is a certain beauty to Abeloth, and very tragic back story. I just hope it isn't a possession story arc with Ezra. Also, still waiting for the send off of Baylon. Ray has made an impact, and can't be replaced.
Sidious: I AM the Senate
Abeloth: Lol
Correction: Luke did not force the black hole to collapse on itself...he caused it to engulf the Vong tank emitting the black hole by moving the molecules around it causing it to act irratically. This feat also caused luke to need to rest as it took everything out of him. I belive this was on Dantooine during the initial wave of the invason.