@@aimanazminovich3602Likely a good bit stronger, especially in SSJ3. SSJ3 Goku is a bit above Fat Buu apparently, and can throw hands with Kid Buu to an extent. Meanwhile SSJ3 Gotenks was doing pretty well against Super Buu who is stronger than Fat Buu. Goku’s experience and techniques like the instant transmission may help him out but I think Gotenks would win provided they don’t play around for too long
@@aimanazminovich3602 Even if it's the case that Gotenks was slightly stronger in that moment they'd still lose to Goku. He's got more determination and experience to bridge the gap if there ever was one. It's not just the fact you're older and a little further along developmentally, it's the experience that comes with probably having more fights, etc that makes the real difference and Goku is leagues above them, they're a little too cocky because they're still kids which is a big weakness.
Trunks has his father's pride and his mother's heart. I could tell he felt a bit bad for Goten in the moment but he already knew he was stronger than him because he's older...
@@33GLOCKit do tho,when gohan was there age he was wasn’t even near them. plus goten is the youngest ssj with less training so it makes sense. the younger u are the less capable u are and that goes for the real world
At that age Vegeta would smoke Goku. Vegeta surpassed the adult Elite when he was only a child. Goku could barely beat Raditz until King Kai's training took him to a new level. Without King Kai, Goku gets smoked and Z ends on a sad note at the Saiyan saga
@@ImGood-xj6wyvegeta after leaving the time chamber could have killed goku and piccolo and cell if he wanted to but i’m sure future trunks wouldn’t allow tht to happen
I like how Goku effectively lets Goten know hes weaker than Trunks but reasonably tells him its just because of age Edit: What is this army I've summoned in the comments, I was just saying how Goku was sugarcoating it for Goten because he's a nice dad-
Age is a excuse because a lot of people older don’t make you stronger by by dbz lore Truck is aspost to be stronger then gotten just by blood line that’s the reality before all the fandom & even akiria rip started making it the goku show & threw out all the lore, power levels & elites to low fighter stuff
@@TheRealWorldNews247 he tried passing it off to Gohan but the fans cried about it. So, that's why Goku was brought back in here and than he totally ruined Gohan
@@TheRealWorldNews247 nah yall just lame it’s quite clear you haven’t seen much of his other work,db or dbz LMAO. If you did congratulations you’re just illiterate!! I can send you some links to help with reading comprehension in about 20-40 minutes, i would have to find em first which should be easy. But finding one on your level might be tricky
@@spritekiddmatter man, trunks is a descendant from the king of the saiyans so they’re elite, they are born very strong even without training compared do common saiyans like Goku, so their age matter a low class saiyan is hardly stronger than a elite one
@@icantfightforloveu5348 That's actually not how it works. Vegeta's brother Tarble is a Low Class Warrior and why he was basically exiled. Raditz was a mid Class Warrior who was very close to being an Elite. That's why he was on Prince Vegeta's team. Bardock and Goku are low Class Warriors but Bardock became one of the most powerful Saiyans from Zenkai boosts. It doesn't matter how strong a Saiyan becomes they always stay in their Class. Vegeta has an Elite brother Rigor who is not Canon. But considering his Canon brother is low class. We see that the family you're born into means nothing with potential
@@aharonbaalshemYou right overall but wrong about how the class works, its like a social class so Vegeta brother isnt low class since he comes from royalty just that he’s weak, the runt of the litter
Considering Trunks has Vegeta training and Goten mainly has Chichi training, it's very impressive that Goten was able to keep up since training with someone of a higher power level gives you much greater gains most of the time.
Goku sounding disappointed/surprised at their 'low' power is kinda funny since they are probably stronger then he was before namek and defiantly a lot stronger then he was at their age.
They are for sure stronger than Goku at that age. But the Super Sayajin is just a multiplier, they are hardly stronger than Namek Goku...and I think hybrids outside of Gohan, a mutant, trade easier access to the Super forms and power in general in exchange of maximum power, so their supers are a tad weaker.
@@chromab7713 That is why I said before Namek not on Namek. For the multiplier keep in mind it is a x50 which is a massive boost. The last part is head cannon and one I've never heard before, I don't think a good reason was ever given in universe as to why Goten and Trunks get SSJ so easy.
It's been stated somewhere that Saiyans' respective difficulty transforming depends on the number of S-cells they have, of which more gentle people have more, whilst crueller characters have less. My head cannon would prob be that as hybrids with more humanity, Gohan, trunks and Goten probably found it easier to transform because of their gentler dispositions compared to someone like Vegeta who struggled the most.@@Reuraku
@@haych5491 I don't know how accurate it is but I believe one of the data books states that S-cells can be inherited which would explain why Gohan had to truly train to obtain ssj but Trunks and Goten who were born after their respective parents obtained ssj had an easier time doing it. Also what chromab said is kinda true too because we are shown with Goku jr that ssj was almost a given at birth but the multi seemed lower. I kinda see it as Goku, Vegeta, Gohan x50 with Trunks and Goten x45
Look how Goku talks so blunt but kindly towards them. Even lifts Goten up when he feels like he disappointed his dad by not being stronger than Trunks. How anyone can call him a bad dad is beyond me. He's an excellent dad whenever he gets a chance to actually be a dad.
The past Funimation propaganda I'd wager. Plenty of interviews with the EN localizers & VAs spouting how horrible a dad Goku is. Heard it all the time back in the day...
I don't personally think he is but I can understand why people say he is a bad dad (especially during the Cell Saga). I do think Piccolo has proven to be a more suitable dad for Gohan at least.
Well how many real dad moments does he have with Goten... 😶 The funny and ironic thing is unlike gohan, Goten actually likes to Fight and Spar, but Goku never trains with him or take him when he goes to see Whis (although that can really be attributed to the writing)
@@Myrope Yeah, Piccolo, The guy who kidnapped Gohan, forced him to to train tirelessly. Only after did he grow to be more softer. However PIccolo consistently tries pushing Gohan away from what he likes and even faked kidnapping Pan. What did he do bad in Cell saga? Have the one person who COULD beat Cell fight Cell? "the senzu bean" it literally wouldn't have made a difference in the fight
@@alchemist262 Im a original fan of the show, while some of y'all watch that cheap rundown Kai version, I grew up watching the best version in the 90s. I know mah shit bruh lol
Kai is much better boomer, it's very similar to the manga unlike the og version of Z and isn't dragged out that much, like when Vegeta asks Goku to join him before they fight in the Saiyan saga, Did that short tsundere really think that Goku would just join him?@@DrekalScar
Weird how they set up Goten and Trunks as having waaaaaaaaay more potential than anyone else, and then they just never really did anything with that. With the age they both figured out SSJ, both of them should have figured out SSJ 2 by the end of the Buu saga, especially considering Gotenks was able to figure out SSJ 3. By the time they reach 15, they should be on a completely unimaginable level of power.
That's one of my major complaints about the series. As much as I love the series, there were just a lot of things introduced that never really went anywhere.
LOL that's not necessarily what they were setting up, bro. Gohan has more potential than anyone and that was ALWAYS set up and implied. Now, Hybrids DO have more potential than other Saiyans, yes, but Gohan is a mutant hybrid, similar to how Broly is a mutant pureblood. Goten and Trunks have more potential than most, but Gohan, Broly, and maybe Frieza are the exceptions. Gohan is clearly number 1, as stated by nearly every character, as well as Akira many times over the last 3 decades. And the fact that Gohan finishes Cell Saga, Buu Saga, and Z as the strongest character, and is currently the strongest in Super only further confirms this. Frieza and Broly might be a tie but I'd lean towards Broly simply because Frieza had to do 10 years in a Time Chamber just to eclipse Goku and Vegeta whereas Broly closed that gap within one battle. So I'd say it's Gohan > Broly > Frieza > then Goten and Trunks are somewhere next with Buu and Uub.
Gohan is a lot more like Chi Chi when she was younger than Goku, while Goten has more of Goku's personality. I've always kind of assumed it's a combination of the Saiyan potential with human adrenaline that happens when Gohan snaps. Dude freaks out, but in the opposite way of Broly. Broly loses control, while Gohan actually gets in full control.
I dont think the "oh that's it" was meant to be rude. Goku learned as a kid that thinking you're top dog isn't a good mentality if you want to grow stronger. Heck, that's why Roshi became Jackie Chun to beat Goku. Why Popo had to humble Goku. Trunks and Goten think they're really strong, which they are for their ages, but they can definitely go higher
I agree. It's fun to joke about Goku being disappointed, but the truth is he was impressed by the fact that they were even Super Saiyans at that age. That was a big deal back then.
@JohnnyDominion read my comment again. I never said stronger than him, just a play thing. Freiza base final form can't compete with super sayian unless he goes 100%. I think many audiences would agree that goten and trunks were on pair with goku when he first achieved super sayian.
Goku telling goten trunks is stronger because he’s a bit older, but goku has been stronger than vegeta almost the whole series and he’s about 5 years younger 😂
And the funny thing about this scene is that Goku knows that it took a lot of training for Gohan to go SSJ, and he was older compared to Goten and Trunks when they achieved it. But on the other hand Goku was trying to pass the torch to the next generation and they have to fight a monster that turns people into candy, so you can't be that mad at him.
@Kingofsoulsss what are you talking about, the same age difference between vegeta and goku is about the same as trunks and goten, but goten comes from two families of warriors where as trunks has more brains from bulmas family. I'm simply stating an observation, also from the video you can see that goten has to go max while trunks lowers his max to fuse, that will create different mentalities, for example vegeta didn't get truly stronger till he accepted that a "lower class" sayin like goku could be stronger, that's when he started to push himself more to get to gokus level and accepted him as an equal.
@@jasonbondar3 What are you talking about? Vegeta surpassed the Elite Saiyans when he was only a child. You do know Vegeta's 18,000 power level in the beginning of the series made him one of the strongest warriors in the Universe that wasn't a mutant right? You do know Cold, Frieza, and their Elites are Mutants and the average fighters in the Universe are about 1000? That's why in the Super Broly movie which is Canon. The Frieza Force is trying to find people with power levels over a 1000 and they hit the jack pot when they find Broly and his Dad. That's why Frieza pays Them a fortune. Before King Kai, Goku couldn't even beat a Mid Class Saiyan with a power level of 1500. Without dying Goku gets smoked by Vegeta. The Kiao Ken changed the game
By the end of Z, Goku became a Martial arts master (hence his Gi had no symbol), he wasn't a student anymore (not even his own student), which was symbolised by him training Uub... Also, he outgrew all of his flaws, and became the perfect, understanding, meticulated fighter overall... Thus, they had to re-introduce character flaws in Super, in order to introduce some more Character growth, to make the story interesting to watch. But the problem is that they introduced such flaws in Goku, which never even existed. They made Goku a dumb idiot who just knows how to brawl
Very glad that Goku was the one here instructing the boys. I can’t help imagining Vegeta suddenly sitting up a little straight somewhere, aware that he’s missing a chance to lecture someone on how they’re shaming their Sayian heritage.
I think it works better like this. Them being friends works with fusion being their main transformation, otherwise they would probably hate fusing like goku and vegeta do. Also, it would basically just end up being goku and vegeta again which we get with… goku and vegeta so it would probably get pretty boring fast.
Well, in canon in DBS, they're nearly almost equal in power so it wasn't really hard for them, especially since the difference was so miniscule Piccolo didn't even bother to remind them of this before the fusion.
*My God I miss this Goku.* The fatherly Goku that was trying to pass the mantle down to his kids. When he knew he couldn't stick around forever. Nowadays....😅
Well Vegeta and Goku were not the same power level so he kept that part a secret from Vegeta and would lower his power a bit. Glad Vegeta never found out 😂
They used the potara, which doesn't need the energy of both parties to match. That was only the fusion dance, as it wasn't as potent, but had a strict hard time for the fusion.
The fact that they achieved super Saiyan at that young age is a good feat. Goku and Vegeta didn't became Super Saiyan till they were adults. Gohan achieved it till he was like 12 or something. Trunks and Goten are like 7-8 years old or something.
@@303Nineaccording to latent potential Goku is abt 250 times less stronger than Vegeta It's his openess to learning techniques & culturally non-saiyan nature that helps him excel & break all limits
Let me reply here if continue watching this episode after this part Goku remembers when da time master roshi training them wit krillen master roshi said to krillen he's power was higher since Goku's power is low try an measure Goku's power but in da end Goku is stringer so Goku new wat he was saying same thing dat happen to him an krillen when they were young !!
@@faranawan3765Goku trains better than Vegeta? Even after Vegeta used 2 years he still wasn't close to Goku's level while Goku used 8 months in the Chamber
Trunks - Stronger, trained with Vegeta in a gravity chamber Goten - Trained with Chi Chi & Gohan every so often Trunks talking smack when Goten had weak people training him
LoL Trunks: " Well he asked for it right?"😏 Goku: "Great now raise it to your maximums"😐 The boys: 😮 Trunks in the present day is cocky like his father unlike future Trunks. Who kept getting owned by the androids frequently. I feel like Vegeta would have had harsher words about their relatively small powers yet both boys are way past their dads when at the same age. Gohan when he was a kid too.
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Goku said “is that yalls best!?? 😮💨💨”
I mean he's a SSJ3, of course SSJ1 power isn't going to impress him.
Meanwhile goku that age couldn't even fly 😂
@@DeJaVu804Gohan💀
@@DeJaVu804and?
They thought they were gonna flex too.
That “I’m sorry, I couldn’t 🥺” was the cutest thing ever 😭🙏
I know! I was like aww it’s ok lil dude ❣️
I always loved Goten's humbleness.
@@professionallycurious7372That’s Chi Chi’s boy alright haha
Plus its chichis fault goten cant train
@@enrickcortezcardiel8468she literally trained him,this is with chichi’s help Goten obtained super saiyan .🤦🏿🤦🏿
Somewhere vegeta’s soul is smirking
Lmao 😂😂😂 I literally just Imagined it Lol!
@@Keyblademster me too 😂
🤣🤣🤣
He was smiling when Trunks beat Goten
@@Keyblademsteryou don't have to imagine it, look up when Trunks beat Goten, he's all happy there
Goku sounding like a perfectly reasonable and intelligent adult teaching children
This is true Goku whatever super has done to him is character assassination
Goku is an expert when it comes to fighting. But with everything else, he’s kinda dumb.
If Goku knows one thing, it’s fighting
@@SasukeUchiha-tc9xxGoku would be good at anything he wanted to be good at
@@demnbrowncan’t go one comment section without some idiot crying about super. Read the manga
Both kids thought they were gonna surprise Goku with their maximum, then he hits them with a "Oh..." full of dissapointment, poor kids
Only gotenks would’ve even stood a chance against goku briefly anyways 😂
@@jamimuhammad3699I’d say during the Buu Saga Gotenks is equal to Goku or maybe slightly stronger
@@aimanazminovich3602Likely a good bit stronger, especially in SSJ3. SSJ3 Goku is a bit above Fat Buu apparently, and can throw hands with Kid Buu to an extent. Meanwhile SSJ3 Gotenks was doing pretty well against Super Buu who is stronger than Fat Buu. Goku’s experience and techniques like the instant transmission may help him out but I think Gotenks would win provided they don’t play around for too long
@@aimanazminovich3602 Even if it's the case that Gotenks was slightly stronger in that moment they'd still lose to Goku. He's got more determination and experience to bridge the gap if there ever was one. It's not just the fact you're older and a little further along developmentally, it's the experience that comes with probably having more fights, etc that makes the real difference and Goku is leagues above them, they're a little too cocky because they're still kids which is a big weakness.
And kid trunks is far stronger then goku as a teen
They really thought they could surprise goku with their full power😂😂
You didn't watch the buu saga cus they weren't trying to surpass kakarot
they weren't expecting to surpass him they thought they could impress him for being so strong.
@@Knight-123q & you didn't read the comment right cause he said nothing about surpassing anyone.
remember how they never knew his true power up until he holds off Buu?
They went ssj3, something that Goku had to work like mad
now, raise to your max
we did
oh 😂 emotional damage😂😅
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@@arracheur2grec😭
They are both still stronger than young Goku 😂.
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@@ithamarlowe6158by a significant margin as well.
Trunks has his father's pride and his mother's heart. I could tell he felt a bit bad for Goten in the moment but he already knew he was stronger than him because he's older...
Goten already said trunks was stronger when he was training with Gohan for the tournament.
@@DeJaVu804 plus trunks also told vegeta he was a bit stronger than goten when he was training with him
Has nothing to do with age 😂😂😂😂
@@33GLOCKit do tho,when gohan was there age he was wasn’t even near them. plus goten is the youngest ssj with less training so it makes sense. the younger u are the less capable u are and that goes for the real world
@@DeJaVu804 They're such self-aware boys 🥰🥹
"Its okay son. When you become 11 yrs old, you'll be stronger than ALL of us."
That didn't age well
@@bizad.g1042 thats the cost when you grow up in times of peace
Funny part goten and trunks teen ssj forms are equal 😂
They are 15 still didn't anything while Gohan had ssj2 at nine year age on manga
Just like gohan 🤣🤣
Vegeta being way older than goku: *Cries inside*
At that age Vegeta would smoke Goku. Vegeta surpassed the adult Elite when he was only a child. Goku could barely beat Raditz until King Kai's training took him to a new level. Without King Kai, Goku gets smoked and Z ends on a sad note at the Saiyan saga
He's not "way" older, only a few years..
@@aharonbaalshemgoku would smoke vegeta any point after saiyan saga so what are we talking about?😂
@@ImGood-xj6wyvegeta after leaving the time chamber could have killed goku and piccolo and cell if he wanted to but i’m sure future trunks wouldn’t allow tht to happen
@@ROGALLYWORLD no mastered super saiyan shits on vegeta
Goku proving for the nth time that he’s the goat at sensing energy
He would be considering he has to pin point someone’s energy to use instant transmission
@@lasthopelost9090plus he’s doing it very often almost every day since dbz
I like how Goku effectively lets Goten know hes weaker than Trunks but reasonably tells him its just because of age
Edit: What is this army I've summoned in the comments, I was just saying how Goku was sugarcoating it for Goten because he's a nice dad-
Not really true we see in the future the gap gets larger though.
Age is a excuse because a lot of people older don’t make you stronger by by dbz lore
Truck is aspost to be stronger then gotten just by blood line that’s the reality before all the fandom
& even akiria rip started making it the goku show & threw out all the lore, power levels & elites to low fighter stuff
@@TheRealWorldNews247 he tried passing it off to Gohan but the fans cried about it. So, that's why Goku was brought back in here and than he totally ruined Gohan
@@aharonbaalshemGohan was ruined the moment he put on the "great saiyanman costume" and started doing those lame poses
@@TheRealWorldNews247 nah yall just lame it’s quite clear you haven’t seen much of his other work,db or dbz LMAO. If you did congratulations you’re just illiterate!! I can send you some links to help with reading comprehension in about 20-40 minutes, i would have to find em first which should be easy. But finding one on your level might be tricky
Goku low key telling Goten you'll be stronger than Trunks at his age.
Funny thing is age doesn’t matter since Goku is stronger than Vegeta who’s older
@@spritekiddmatter man, trunks is a descendant from the king of the saiyans so they’re elite, they are born very strong even without training compared do common saiyans like Goku, so their age matter a low class saiyan is hardly stronger than a elite one
@@icantfightforloveu5348 That's actually not how it works. Vegeta's brother Tarble is a Low Class Warrior and why he was basically exiled. Raditz was a mid Class Warrior who was very close to being an Elite. That's why he was on Prince Vegeta's team. Bardock and Goku are low Class Warriors but Bardock became one of the most powerful Saiyans from Zenkai boosts. It doesn't matter how strong a Saiyan becomes they always stay in their Class.
Vegeta has an Elite brother Rigor who is not Canon. But considering his Canon brother is low class. We see that the family you're born into means nothing with potential
No. It is how it works. Vegeta and his kids are naturally going to be at a higher level. Goten has more potential. @@aharonbaalshem
@@aharonbaalshemYou right overall but wrong about how the class works, its like a social class so Vegeta brother isnt low class since he comes from royalty just that he’s weak, the runt of the litter
Its also because Trunks got to train with his dad. Goku just showed up at that point
Gohan trained goten a lil bit to get to super Saiyan
@@johnnybravo97incorrect it was Chi Chi
@@MazeedAkanniNeither of them did, Goten unlocked Super Saiyan on accident when Chi-Chi kicked him while they were sparring
Considering Trunks has Vegeta training and Goten mainly has Chichi training, it's very impressive that Goten was able to keep up since training with someone of a higher power level gives you much greater gains most of the time.
Also, Trunks had gravity room training
The "I'm sorry I couldn't" is sooo cute!😭❤️
Goku sounding disappointed/surprised at their 'low' power is kinda funny since they are probably stronger then he was before namek and defiantly a lot stronger then he was at their age.
It was only because he at first thought they would be equal to each other at full
Not because he doesnt consider them incredibly strong for their age
They are for sure stronger than Goku at that age. But the Super Sayajin is just a multiplier, they are hardly stronger than Namek Goku...and I think hybrids outside of Gohan, a mutant, trade easier access to the Super forms and power in general in exchange of maximum power, so their supers are a tad weaker.
@@chromab7713 That is why I said before Namek not on Namek. For the multiplier keep in mind it is a x50 which is a massive boost. The last part is head cannon and one I've never heard before, I don't think a good reason was ever given in universe as to why Goten and Trunks get SSJ so easy.
It's been stated somewhere that Saiyans' respective difficulty transforming depends on the number of S-cells they have, of which more gentle people have more, whilst crueller characters have less. My head cannon would prob be that as hybrids with more humanity, Gohan, trunks and Goten probably found it easier to transform because of their gentler dispositions compared to someone like Vegeta who struggled the most.@@Reuraku
@@haych5491 I don't know how accurate it is but I believe one of the data books states that S-cells can be inherited which would explain why Gohan had to truly train to obtain ssj but Trunks and Goten who were born after their respective parents obtained ssj had an easier time doing it. Also what chromab said is kinda true too because we are shown with Goku jr that ssj was almost a given at birth but the multi seemed lower. I kinda see it as Goku, Vegeta, Gohan x50 with Trunks and Goten x45
Look how Goku talks so blunt but kindly towards them. Even lifts Goten up when he feels like he disappointed his dad by not being stronger than Trunks.
How anyone can call him a bad dad is beyond me. He's an excellent dad whenever he gets a chance to actually be a dad.
The past Funimation propaganda I'd wager. Plenty of interviews with the EN localizers & VAs spouting how horrible a dad Goku is. Heard it all the time back in the day...
I don't personally think he is but I can understand why people say he is a bad dad (especially during the Cell Saga). I do think Piccolo has proven to be a more suitable dad for Gohan at least.
Goku only cares if you're strong.. when he told Gohan to run away from Radditz bro was more afraid of Chi Chi finding out he let Gohan die
Well how many real dad moments does he have with Goten... 😶
The funny and ironic thing is unlike gohan, Goten actually likes to Fight and Spar, but Goku never trains with him or take him when he goes to see Whis (although that can really be attributed to the writing)
@@Myrope Yeah, Piccolo, The guy who kidnapped Gohan, forced him to to train tirelessly. Only after did he grow to be more softer. However PIccolo consistently tries pushing Gohan away from what he likes and even faked kidnapping Pan.
What did he do bad in Cell saga? Have the one person who COULD beat Cell fight Cell? "the senzu bean" it literally wouldn't have made a difference in the fight
Good dad 👨 with goku parenting at the end 😊
Bruh it's so sad this is rare. He rather let Piccolo raise them lol😂
@@DrekalScarbro didn’t watch this show
@@alchemist262 Im a original fan of the show, while some of y'all watch that cheap rundown Kai version, I grew up watching the best version in the 90s.
I know mah shit bruh lol
Kai is much better boomer, it's very similar to the manga unlike the og version of Z and isn't dragged out that much, like when Vegeta asks Goku to join him before they fight in the Saiyan saga, Did that short tsundere really think that Goku would just join him?@@DrekalScar
@@DrekalScar never watched Kai tho what💀
I love how goten said "i couldn't " ❤
Fr❤
Weird how they set up Goten and Trunks as having waaaaaaaaay more potential than anyone else, and then they just never really did anything with that. With the age they both figured out SSJ, both of them should have figured out SSJ 2 by the end of the Buu saga, especially considering Gotenks was able to figure out SSJ 3. By the time they reach 15, they should be on a completely unimaginable level of power.
Yeah if you haven’t read the super hero manga then watch the movie their power lvls are definitely higher and this is more show cased in the manga.
@@jamimuhammad3699 It's really not 🤣
That's one of my major complaints about the series. As much as I love the series, there were just a lot of things introduced that never really went anywhere.
@Hei_Darkfire Mainly during the Buu.
LOL that's not necessarily what they were setting up, bro. Gohan has more potential than anyone and that was ALWAYS set up and implied. Now, Hybrids DO have more potential than other Saiyans, yes, but Gohan is a mutant hybrid, similar to how Broly is a mutant pureblood. Goten and Trunks have more potential than most, but Gohan, Broly, and maybe Frieza are the exceptions.
Gohan is clearly number 1, as stated by nearly every character, as well as Akira many times over the last 3 decades. And the fact that Gohan finishes Cell Saga, Buu Saga, and Z as the strongest character, and is currently the strongest in Super only further confirms this.
Frieza and Broly might be a tie but I'd lean towards Broly simply because Frieza had to do 10 years in a Time Chamber just to eclipse Goku and Vegeta whereas Broly closed that gap within one battle. So I'd say it's Gohan > Broly > Frieza > then Goten and Trunks are somewhere next with Buu and Uub.
Goku: He’s older than you it’s only natural he’s a little bit stronger.
Gohan cell saga:
Gohan has very high potential compared to the goku. Goten and trunks both have similar potential so the age difference matters.
gohan was either 9 or 11 during that. Goten is just 7 here
Gohan is a lot more like Chi Chi when she was younger than Goku, while Goten has more of Goku's personality.
I've always kind of assumed it's a combination of the Saiyan potential with human adrenaline that happens when Gohan snaps.
Dude freaks out, but in the opposite way of Broly. Broly loses control, while Gohan actually gets in full control.
That’s bc in the time chamber goku spent most of his time training gohan
Gohan in saiyan saga and namek saga💀
Trunks did have Vegeta to train with.
Even though he didn't.
Gotenks had gohan
@@BrianDawkins10Goten had a shell of Gohan to train with
@@Darklord_tKfact
@@BrianDawkins10he had Chichi
People clown on Goku for being an absent dad using idiotic logic, but his words to Goten were very fatherly of him
Goku had spent literally 30 minutes with him his entire life at that point
@@ezradlionel711 Yep and the first first noteworthy thing he did with him was repeat the same stupidity he did to Gohan with Cell
that's like when gohan was watching goku and cell fight like "when are they gonna stop trolling?" lmao
"This is our max."
"Oh...yeah, Earth is cooked."
👨🏿🍳
Vegeta in a Corner of Hell*
"That's My BABY BOY! Take that Kakarot!"
I dont think the "oh that's it" was meant to be rude. Goku learned as a kid that thinking you're top dog isn't a good mentality if you want to grow stronger. Heck, that's why Roshi became Jackie Chun to beat Goku. Why Popo had to humble Goku.
Trunks and Goten think they're really strong, which they are for their ages, but they can definitely go higher
I agree. It's fun to joke about Goku being disappointed, but the truth is he was impressed by the fact that they were even Super Saiyans at that age. That was a big deal back then.
@@neverdavenever bro based on how well they did against 18, they probably could have beaten Frieza together
Imagine being a super sayian at age 7 and Lord Frieza (at this point in time) is just a play thing for you.😂
Just being a Super Saiyan doesn't automatically make you stronger than Frieza.
@JohnnyDominion read my comment again. I never said stronger than him, just a play thing. Freiza base final form can't compete with super sayian unless he goes 100%. I think many audiences would agree that goten and trunks were on pair with goku when he first achieved super sayian.
@@menumlor9432no lol nameku negs-low difs goten and trunks especially in super saiyan
@@menumlor9432They were swapping hands with Android 18. Frieza definitely ain’t shit to them lol
Vegeta realising his sons stronger: 😈
Vegeta realising he’s older than Goku: 🫡
I can imagine that Vegeta wouldve enjoyed this conversation until… Isn’t Vegeta older than Goku?
Goku telling goten trunks is stronger because he’s a bit older, but goku has been stronger than vegeta almost the whole series and he’s about 5 years younger 😂
And the funny thing about this scene is that Goku knows that it took a lot of training for Gohan to go SSJ, and he was older compared to Goten and Trunks when they achieved it. But on the other hand Goku was trying to pass the torch to the next generation and they have to fight a monster that turns people into candy, so you can't be that mad at him.
This is a reminder that vegeta is older than goku, goten is going to easily close the gap
Bro that was 30 years ago
@Kingofsoulsss what are you talking about, the same age difference between vegeta and goku is about the same as trunks and goten, but goten comes from two families of warriors where as trunks has more brains from bulmas family. I'm simply stating an observation, also from the video you can see that goten has to go max while trunks lowers his max to fuse, that will create different mentalities, for example vegeta didn't get truly stronger till he accepted that a "lower class" sayin like goku could be stronger, that's when he started to push himself more to get to gokus level and accepted him as an equal.
@@jasonbondar3 What are you talking about? Vegeta surpassed the Elite Saiyans when he was only a child. You do know Vegeta's 18,000 power level in the beginning of the series made him one of the strongest warriors in the Universe that wasn't a mutant right? You do know Cold, Frieza, and their Elites are Mutants and the average fighters in the Universe are about 1000?
That's why in the Super Broly movie which is Canon. The Frieza Force is trying to find people with power levels over a 1000 and they hit the jack pot when they find Broly and his Dad. That's why Frieza pays Them a fortune.
Before King Kai, Goku couldn't even beat a Mid Class Saiyan with a power level of 1500. Without dying Goku gets smoked by Vegeta. The Kiao Ken changed the game
@@jasonbondar3 no i meant the buu saga was 30 years ago and until now gotan didn't became stronger
Only due to king Kai’s training.
Z Goku actually had a brain & character progression
Facts
By the end of Z, Goku became a Martial arts master (hence his Gi had no symbol), he wasn't a student anymore (not even his own student), which was symbolised by him training Uub...
Also, he outgrew all of his flaws, and became the perfect, understanding, meticulated fighter overall...
Thus, they had to re-introduce character flaws in Super, in order to introduce some more Character growth, to make the story interesting to watch. But the problem is that they introduced such flaws in Goku, which never even existed. They made Goku a dumb idiot who just knows how to brawl
Goku was so unimpressed 😅😅
Very glad that Goku was the one here instructing the boys. I can’t help imagining Vegeta suddenly sitting up a little straight somewhere, aware that he’s missing a chance to lecture someone on how they’re shaming their Sayian heritage.
I wish they focused a little more on them, giving them a rivalry like goku and vegeta
I think it works better like this. Them being friends works with fusion being their main transformation, otherwise they would probably hate fusing like goku and vegeta do. Also, it would basically just end up being goku and vegeta again which we get with… goku and vegeta so it would probably get pretty boring fast.
Idk why but when goten says “im sorry,I couldn’t” was adorable❤❤❤
Goku fr thinking they bout to pop-off like Gohan
Damn Goku and Vegeta is so goated they naturally match energy to make Gogeta work
Well, in canon in DBS, they're nearly almost equal in power so it wasn't really hard for them, especially since the difference was so miniscule Piccolo didn't even bother to remind them of this before the fusion.
Goku: Trunks is older than you goten. So it's only natural. He's a little bit stronger, too.
Vegeta: 🗿
Goku: but there are exceptions... 😅
As he 100% absolutely should be. Vegeta actually trains Trunks actively. He should wipe the floor wrh Goten at any given moment.
To be fair, trunks stuffed around with vegeta in the gravity room
*My God I miss this Goku.* The fatherly Goku that was trying to pass the mantle down to his kids. When he knew he couldn't stick around forever. Nowadays....😅
Now, raise it to your max
We did…
Great,another Gohan but weaker. Good to know what im working with here.
Goten is sooooo innocent. “I’m sorry, I couldn’t” like he felt so bad. I just wanted to hug him
"I... I thought you were stronger..." Ahh clip
Well Vegeta and Goku were not the same power level so he kept that part a secret from Vegeta and would lower his power a bit. Glad Vegeta never found out 😂
They used the potara, which doesn't need the energy of both parties to match. That was only the fusion dance, as it wasn't as potent, but had a strict hard time for the fusion.
Imagine Frieza being annihilated by either of those kids prior to attaining his final form on Planet Namek.
It wouldn't happen lol frieza is way too cunning to lose to them. Especially at this point.
Rare W Goku dad and being moments
If it were the other way imagine how Vegeta would handle that 😆
Vegeta would have told them that shit was pathetic and to work harder...lol!
Blud saying "oh“ as if he was anywhere near their level at 8 years 😭
At least he was logical about it
Trunks is stronger because he trained with his father the whole 7years and the fact that Goten still keeping up goes to show Gotens potential
And he didnt know Trunks could go SSJ?
Trunks potential will always be better plus more people love trunks
It's the reverse for him and Vegeta
The "oh". Felt like when he said raise their power to its maximum feels like he was talking to Goten, specifically.
Tables turned when goten saw his mom turned into someone's treats
The fact that they achieved super Saiyan at that young age is a good feat. Goku and Vegeta didn't became Super Saiyan till they were adults. Gohan achieved it till he was like 12 or something. Trunks and Goten are like 7-8 years old or something.
Gohan achieved it at 10 and achieved ssj2 at 11 so he was the youngest ssj2 and teenage goten and trunks still havent gotten to ssj2
Goten is so cute 🥺
That "oh" sounded so disappointed 😂
Who's here in 2024
Literally everyone
2023 Gang
Bros waiting for a time traveler to appear 🧐
Dude wtf are you talking about? The video dropped in 2024. Stop trying to farm likes
One was raised by a father while the other was raised by a mother
Future trunks is undeniably the strongest emotionally and internally.
He saw everyone get slaughtered and found 1 arm Gohan dead in a puddle…
Well yes but what does this have to do with kid trunks and kid goten
@@damariwatson2262there’s like three different trunks lol
@@thebluerock6048 yeah that's true but I'm just lost on why he said anything about future trunks lol
@@damariwatson2262 😂😂😂 true true
Internally and emotionally damaged you mean.
What Goku really wanted to say was that it was ok because he knows Chi-Chi doesn't let the kids train, lmao.
Trunks is stronger because he is Vegeta's son even Kakarrot respects him
but goku is better then vegeta
@@303Nine Yeah sad but true I guess Akira Toriyama really hated Vegeta if it wasn't for the fans of his character
@@303Nineaccording to latent potential Goku is abt 250 times less stronger than Vegeta
It's his openess to learning techniques & culturally non-saiyan nature that helps him excel & break all limits
Let me reply here if continue watching this episode after this part Goku remembers when da time master roshi training them wit krillen master roshi said to krillen he's power was higher since Goku's power is low try an measure Goku's power but in da end Goku is stringer so Goku new wat he was saying same thing dat happen to him an krillen when they were young !!
@@faranawan3765Goku trains better than Vegeta? Even after Vegeta used 2 years he still wasn't close to Goku's level while Goku used 8 months in the Chamber
Goku is good teacher 👍
And goten is very humble
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I love the small detail of the aura changing in size
Last
Trunks - Stronger, trained with Vegeta in a gravity chamber
Goten - Trained with Chi Chi & Gohan every so often
Trunks talking smack when Goten had weak people training him
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Goku: I literally didn't know you existed until about 10 minutes ago.
First
I think he was comparing them to Gohan, who is an outlier, who took longer to reach Super Saiyan, but had a lot more power&potential.
The whole time……. Goten always looked up to Trunks… he always knew his place.
Vegeta’s age not getting the same treatment like trunks to goten age is actually funny if you think about it 🤣
"Well, he asked for it, right?.. (laguhes)" "yeah" (both laugh), "now raise you're power levels to their maximums." "We did"
ROFL
Bro The Lil “Mhmmm” they do to raise their Power lvl in the beginning seems funny to me😂
Goku was a better dad to Goten than he was to Gohan.
I love how they both are like mhm and they just transform and look like a whole nother being
Screw Majin Buu, they shoulda thrown hands against Goku for that fade 😭
Vegeta lowkey smiling in his mind when he sees this😂
They powered up and Goku was like “damn that’s it??? I should’ve stayed in otherworld ”
They make Goku seem stupid but he seems so intelligent and smart right here best teacher 😂
it's just goku being a good father as well as a great uncle at the same time.
Goku like, "y'all weak" 😂
Goku: “I know that you two became super saiyans at the age of 7, but I’m still disappointed”
❤Love the confident looks on their faces when it was time to turn up! Goku and vegeta all over again!
That "oh" was nasty work lol
Goku sounded so disappointed with that "Oh."
Goku turning super saiyan: AAAAAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Trunks & Goten: Umhhh, Umhhh😂
“oh.” 😐 -Goku
Goku is a good teacher even when his dead😊😊
The start:
Trunks: mmm
Goten: auaurhgm
You've got to love these two when they turn super saiyan I tell you.
These boys really thought they were cooking
LoL Trunks: " Well he asked for it right?"😏
Goku: "Great now raise it to your maximums"😐
The boys: 😮
Trunks in the present day is cocky like his father unlike future Trunks. Who kept getting owned by the androids frequently. I feel like Vegeta would have had harsher words about their relatively small powers yet both boys are way past their dads when at the same age. Gohan when he was a kid too.
Goku: "He's older so it's understandable that he's stronger."
Gohan from start of DBZ to Cell Games arc: "Sorry, I've been breaking father's rules..."
Tell that to Trunk’s dad because he’s older than you, Goku. Ooooo damn, gottem!
I mean Gohan turned SSJ2 aged 11…..but I guess she now matters 😂