Why Camera Loyalty to One Brand is Holding You Back in Filmmaking (Red Komodo x Blackmagic)
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I've worked in the film industry for over 30 years since my early teens. It's 100% doesn't matter what camera you own or use. The artist/creators and story tellers are those that make it happen at the end of the day not any camera!
I think documenting your journey as a DP is the new wave. Not a DP or YT’er but rather both. I think each can support the other venture. I share a similar perspective on my channel.
I was thrown into a crew recently and handed a komodo. Glad I had some experience with it before. I can back up the sentiment that the production expects you to be able to use whichever tool they chose.
Btw the X may solve a lot of the situations that the Komodo has.
Those specs sadly don’t look worth 10oz what you’re already getting in the komodo now
no lies told, these cameras are all just tools and the market is so dense top to bottom with capable cameras that whatever you choose will work.
but no kidding, 16bit r3d raw is still the best compressed raw and workflow so far, as well as a cheaap global shutter 6k cine cam with red color science and workflow, and auto focus lol
Loyalty to not pushing oneself to make the best content/story/film possible is whats holding any filmmaker back
As a DP I've never really used a camera that I own when being hired. I love being a DP because they rent the camera of choice so that way you don't have to purchase different cameras. but I was considering the RED but for me those cons are too big of cons for the documentary work I do unfortunately. But I'm proud of you!
This 100%, when I went back to the fx6 from the Komodo, your creative demands dictate the tools you use. Even now, as TH-cam takes a bit more of a front seat, I’ll still change and buy tools that help that, happy for you man, the Komodo image is amazing, and I think it’ll fit your speed real well, he’ll I may grab a used Komodo now that the x is out 😅
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Brand loyalty isn't the problem. The insane price to switch brands is.
being a youtuber for a while I can assure you there's a tiny tiny tiny fraction of youtubers who get paid by the big camera brands ;)
Aside from this, you're 100% right! Just bought my first RED too the other day!
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love your content , keep doing your thing !
Honestly, I dont blackshade very often haha. I just make sure to expose properly and only blackshade if I know we are going to do a drastic temp shift.
Such a great video, 100% agree with what you are saying and your approach to picking camera's. I personally use Pocket 6K, but I'm always open to try new cameras to see how I can improve my cinematography. Keep up the good work bro, your stuff is dope and I like your honesty
Thanks for keeping it real 💯
Thank you for your transparency
Hey Moji, respect you a lot as a DP and a unique creative voice online. I would say a reason (apart from the brand fan crowd as you correctly point out) for people questioning is that you made the change so quickly after only having the 12K for a few months which can seem flakey. Totally get your POV of the business side where Reds (and Sony for that matter) tend to just get requested more than Blackmagics. The Ursas are still very much cameras that are slept on. So whatever works for you.
I personally am a London based DOP that came up as an AC and have now been using my Ursa G2 for around 1.5 years and it already paid itself off within the first 10 months. I got quite blessed there with a specific client that gave me work almost every month and rented the camera from me as well as many other jobs. When it comes to learning different cameras, totally you should know all the relevant systems out there at least in terms of what the sensor can do and what its limitations are. Let the ACs do the rigging and setting up😂 At least some people do that successfully. Also you can always rent cameras and do prep days before a shoot to test it. No need to go through all of them by owning them. I've used Alexas, Venice, Reds, Canons, Panasonics etc etc. but never owned any other cine camera apart from the Ursa. Ultimately, lighting and storytelling as well as your professional attitude are what will get you hired. Not the camera.
Having said that, can't wait to see what you create with the Komodo especially with those Vazen lenses. Have been wanting to try those out for a while!
I’d have to agree with you here on this one. You can still learn and operate various camera systems without having to buy and sell them at a rapid rate. If you can afford it I say let er rip but for most people I just don’t think that’s realistic and a good financial choice. Put that extra 💰 towards a nice lighting setup or some sweet sweet glass.
Looking forward to seeing some Komodo + Vazen full frame lens footage. I've used the rf versions and love them!
All good just keep doing your thing.
Proud of you brother. #skillssharpensskills
How does this channel not have 500k + subs!? Those shots were gorgeous. 😳🙌🏼👏🏼
Great review in setting expectations as to the baseline for rational reasoning in selecting a camera as a for the purpose intended; to find the most appropriate tool for the image desired, and the related work. Also adapting to the demands of professionals as a DP vs performing client work is very significant.
I have the Ursa G2 and have balanced it on the Ronin 2 and Movi Pro no problems at all with myself or my ACs doing it. You just need the D tap to Xlr power cable because otherwise with even a slim V mount on the back, you won't be able to push it far back enough to balance. So yes it is a bit of an awkward one to balance but def very doable. Happy to send you a video/picture of it ;)
What cable do you recommend?
@@bmefilms6879 I can't remember what brand tbh, we got the gimbal and cable from a rental. Any female XLR to D Tap with 12V and higher should work though.
I’m currently on the Sony eco system , Sony fx30, going full frame soon. I agree learning the different type of system makes your very diverse
Totally agree, back when I was in school we used canon's, sony's, go pro, dji, panasonic, etc. It was whatever worked for the task at hand or learning to use something not suited for the job but to the best we could make it work. It's all about who's behind the camera, not what camera they're behind.
The same goes for other accessories, lenses, and gear.
Do not be ashamed if what you have availabe to use has a fixed/baked on lens.
Good talk, I'm still waiting for a camera with all the features i want and It's not about resolutions for me but more about the workflow, great video!
So True !
great video
At one point in my life I was chasing what everybody promoted as being better. I had 3 different cameras from 3 different manufacturers. Now I’m just chasing what fits me best in the moment which right now seems to be Sony.
Amen to all of this. True stories here always.
Want to make a response to this bro! Not directed at you but more to people confused about their journey. I think a lot of people in the comments may not understand that everyone is at a different point in their career and it’s okay if you don’t have a big name camera. Just make the most with what you own and NETWORK. That will get you to where you need to go. Too many one man bands stuck in the same place because they feel like a new camera will make them “Better”.
Good video. Keep keeping it real bro.
I was the guy that had the debate about you switching from the fx6 to the ursa and how great you spoke about the fx6 then traded lol . I always said that the ursa was too big(Pause) lol but thank you for explaining
This reminds me of a convo that was sparked in the comments section on one of Kofi’s videos and another TH-camr who switched from Sony to Canon. Everyone was coming for the brand of camera versus the content they made or better yet discounting the tips on cinematography that COMPLETELY disregard brand and it’s all about talent and technicality. But nope. People get butt hurt when you switch brands… like they’re getting paid from these brands.
I was about to say, end of the days , these are all tools ! Thanks for the shout out !
well done!
Can't wait to see what you shoot with the Komodo!
First time I saw the Red Komodo rec709 footage I was actually impressed.
This is really good info. All my "content creator" friends always rag on me about wanting a RED but this info applies to people who has industry aspirations as a DP which is my goal. Thank you!
Congratulations on the Komodo! Regardless of the reasoning, it is exciting getting something new and embarking on a journey. Will you change systems again? Probably. Nothing wrong with that at all. It's such a double edged sword with TH-cam. When I look at your videos, the most popular ones are the gear related uploads. I'm not particularly interested in which camera you're using tbh. There are other channels for that type of content that aren't nearly as capable at producing compelling images, breaking down technique or their philosphy irrespective of the gear. I would like to see more of the images you're making and discover the stories you're telling vs the gear you're using to tell them.
The criticism (good and bad) will keep coming. Most is inconsequential due to generality. The specific feedback that comes from a place of good intention will bring a lot of value whether positive or negative. The harder part is discernment between the two.
Keep pushing Moji!
Really enjoyed this video, great info and really well presented. Just as a side note, most TH-camrs don’t get paid to use a brand. The brand loyalty tends to be because they have built up a viewership that also uses that brand, so changing brands can hurt their channel.
This seems like the most reasonable conclusion!
I respect the fact you do what works for you. That's the way it's gotta be. UBU. Ever try a Canon C70? That's what I use. Similar to RED in form factor (smaller/lighter) with less RED hassles and 10 stops of ND, plus works with the same lenses as RED. When I read about burning up SDI ports because of sequence I was like yea nah. I do solo way too much to have to say, hang on I gotta get this set up, be with ya in a minute... kinda stuff. Great content.
I agree with the DP vs TH-camr scenario. As DPs we have to use different camera systems that require different technical information. A Alexa could be the perfect system for one type of story while the RED could work for another. A venice might be great for a documentary feature. It really depends on the story. It's great to use other camera systems and know the capabilities of that sensor.
Only reason I’m loyal to one, which is canon, is to match footage when I either do multi cam setups for filming or to follow continuity when filming. I don’t mind using other cams though, what’s the point of not learning how other things work, if it’s available trying out stuff is always a W.
40fps in RAW but it can do 60fps Apple ProRes without a hit to resolution or having to crop correct? That’s if you don’t need RAW for every project.
i cant help but feeling like swapping so much is holding you back even more. you must be losing a decent amount of money each time you sell and reinvest in a completely different ecosystem unless youre finding incredible deals.
its not “brand loyalty” its understanding what you need and not constantly having your head turned by specs the other guys have.
Bro I want to hear your story fam. How did you get to where you at?
Not a single lie told. Cameras come and go but the journey continues
truthfully i dont even black shade anymore. i dont notice a difference tbh.
I don't have brand loyalty, but I do have a finite budget 😑 I'm all Sony right now and I think my personal dream would be the Venice, just by coincidence. I'm personally not very interested in Red, so I suppose the alternative would be Canon or Arri... in my dream world.
My biggest fear is having to learn a whole new operating system and having the ability in learning it to a pro standard and in time for your next shoot
That’s why I genuinely still shooting with Canon R6 even though my heart wants to go LUMIX system 😢
Obviously Blackmagic has great image quality and flexibility in post, but I don’t think it’s worth it to have the various quality control issues along with it that I hear a lot of people talking about. I’ve only been on a couple smaller sets where Blackmagic is being used. Most of the sets I’m on the DP is using RED, Sony or Cannon. I haven’t been on any sets with an Arri, but I know that is standard at the higher levels. I guess my point is, I think it makes sense to learn an ecosystem like RED through their entry level camera, then when the big jobs come, you know what your doing on their higher end models. Blackshading, exposure, etc.
Dang. You almost had me sold on picking up a used BM 12K before this dropped ha. For the longest time I haven’t been able to get past that it doesn’t offer prores. And I think that’s the main reason it doesn’t get rented to requested much for paying gigs. Pretty much every larger job I’ve worked required a prores option. But your videos on it were getting me hyped about trying it haha.
I think you should stop paying attention so much to what other youtubers/filmmakers do and buy. If you consider yourself a filmmaker or aspiring DP, my advice would be to just do what works best for you and inspires you to shoot. Obviously it's wise to do research when it comes to the business side of things and rentability (is that a word?). Also, just rent out these cameras for yourself on a few gigs and see how you like working with each system. I was using the G2 for 1.5 years before actually buying my own. Here in London I've def been able to rent it out on smaller/medium productions and made a profit. But yeah don't listen to me haha, do your own thing mate. That's the most valuable asset you'll start to develop which is taste and perspective.
@@NicolasWaldvogel Oh I know. I’ve just been fascinated by the 12k for a while and following accounts that use it. There aren’t many though. I’ve actually been shooting on the Komodo for a while now, as well as plenty of other cameras over the years.
I think it was just his steadfastness about the 12k that resonated with my curiosity. So I was a little surprised when he jumped ship after all the praise. But it was good to hear about all the things he didn’t like about the camera too. And I also found it a little amusing that he jumped ship for the Komodo, and I had been shooting on the Komodo for a while now. So it just started to feel like I got caught up in a “the grass is greener” kind of thing.
I’ve always found what I’ve seen from the 12K to look pretty amazing, but like plenty of other cameras that look amazing, if none of the paying gigs want to use/rent them, it’s too expensive to just be a personal camera. A decent amount of my client work comes from camera packages I can build out and invoice with the job, so I tend to stay closer to the models that get the most attention.
The 12k has just always felt like an anomaly. I personally think if it had offered a ProRes option, it would’ve sold a lot better. But I get that they couldn’t.
@@TheJ_G yeah we've all been there mate. And I'm really hoping Moji is not also falling for this atm. Cameras will help but they make up about 5% of how we actually become better DPs. How has the Komodo been treating you then?
@@NicolasWaldvogel It’s been a great little camera. I’ve gotten a lot of work with it, and even rented it out a few times. It doesn’t seem to turn as many heads on larger productions because they sort of know that it’s RED’s entry level model and a lot of people just starting out have them now. But clients that want to feel like they’re paying for something more substantial than a mirrorless setup like seeing that it’s a RED.
Honestly I think it’s standout feature is the global shutter, and I really think people underestimate how much that improves the overall look and feel of the footage. It just feels incredibly organic compared to cameras that have more rolling shutter. And if it didn’t have the global shutter, I don’t know if it would have enough to really standout amongst all the other incredible cameras dropping all the time beyond having the RED logo on it.
It shoots great looking footage though. And it does manage to pull in work and attention. So for that alone, it’s been worth it.
It's "codec"
MIinute 14. BM - its too heavy! Coulda said that in 14 seconds or known before buying. As for sticking with a brand.. all cameras are the same (apart from the ones that are too heavy) so buy a camera and use it to develop your art? More seriously changing lens mount system is going to cost so that needs thinking about hard. Apart from saving your back changing camera system isnt really ging to make you better?
We like new cameras, simple lol
Bigggg Facts in this video!!! If you truly want to become a skilled DP and creative, it's important to broaden your knowledge beyond just one camera system. Learning about different systems can be challenging, but it's definitely worth it. I don't understand why anyone would want to limit themselves. It's frustrating when people try to impose their opinions on you instead of valuing your unique experience. It's disappointing to see how some individuals don't take the time to think before commenting. Lame behavior 😆😫😂
Can you imagine Leonardo da Vinci arguing with Michelangelo Buonarroti over which paint brush they used? There's way too much drama in this industry...when it comes to camera fanboys arguing over which camera is better, it's absolutely pathetic. Just make work people.
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Basically, owning a *Red* camera opens up more opportunities in the industry than *Blackmagic* cameras.
The industry has that *Red* look in their videos and you can tell when you see it. Not to mention, *Red* is the cheapest version that can come close to *Arri* in look.
Thats why people choose *Red* because *Arri* is too much money.
The End...
As much as I love the image off the Ursa along with braw and the color science, I wouldn't buy it. Not many Producers are asking for it and fellow DPs aren't asking for either. Everybody and their momma is asking for an Arri, Red, Sony or Canon. If you need a cheap camera but hi quality image, it's better to rent an Ursa 12k and have a full camera crew.
Also I think you saying a TH-camr being loyal is backwards TH-camrs flip flop and push new cameras all the time and follow trends and push stuff people don’t really need. A lot of DPs rent and maximize their tool set. Buying is a personal preference no one has to own a RED to get better..
TH-cam has become a mess of uneducated cinematographers doing it for show not actually getting into the art of it. That's why a lot of their footage looks similar they just copy each other
You gonna switch to the Komodo X? 🤓
Would be lying if I said it was easy but was able to get the ursa mini pro G1 (basically same body) with atlas anamorphic lenses on a ronin 2… was one of my proudest moments as an AC because no one thought I would be able to.
th-cam.com/video/SD9sGdwCXO0/w-d-xo.html
All you need is Sony.
Camera loyalty is usually traced to one specific thing: They have a loan on it and need to pay it off. DPs that make a living with a camera they own will always be loyal to that camera. Most of the larger, more professional DPs don't own cameras. Horses for courses.
Man I'm tired of this gear talk
Ive always tell them same when we spoke 3 years ago Tools.
fun fact 12k G2 Is solid and in 8k mode 85% Rolling shutter free to is solid also 6k B cast daul iso solid full sensor read out no crop
Best fun fact b-raw is really r3d code re-masked to favor Arri color space. aka Braw based on Red firmware builds 4.32-6.23.1
as Red & BMC has always shake hands.
I favor Red as I never lost $ on the camera or any camera I used / own as Im putting the gear to work.
yes you can balance that 12g can be blanched on gimbals just need accessory knowledge
Im do few build pre Cineagear for you with pedro from cinmilled
Thank you always for dropping bangers after bangers man. You are a very inspiring person and an add on to how I approach my projects🔥❤️🩹