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Someone needs to make a 1" cube lidar device that does the same thing as the phone with a simple OLED screen for settings and calibration.
That’d be sweet!
I've seem one in the works like a year ago ... I guess it was some crowfunding platform ... guess they failed :)
I can make that. But its probably easier to make with a tof sensor. Like the Texas Instrument opt3101 i got in a bag here somewhere.
The "Cube" is the AFX from CDA-Tek. It performs well. For zoom lenses too. The only downside is that programming is done with buttons, on the device. Focus Puller and AFX would be the ideal combination!
There's the a device by Axoncine. Originally they made one specifically for the BMPCC4k/6k which controlled lenses electronically, and was operated via bluetooth (a pretty slick way of doing it, imho). However, they discontinued it, and replaced it with a device that does the same thing, but requires a Tilta Nano focus motor.
Hi Michael ! Great video as always. Pretty sure that the FOV of the LIDAR on the iPhone is about 70° so, if you put the iPhone vertically and point it a little bit down, the green point should be centered while the depth map should cover enough FOV. Maybe give it a try, if u didn't already.
Solid idea! I have not tried it vertically, definitely will give it a shot!
@@initialfocus I'd be happy to know if it works (or not) :D
Cheers from France
@@initialfocus yeah keep us posted
Pretty cool. :) Hope the app gets a little update to allow for slower and more natural pulls, and perhaps an option to not instantly snap to what whatever is covered by the dot so people could cross the frame. And a wider coverage area and the ability to place it wherever to allow for the dot to stray a bit, and for off centre composition.
Also, I’m guessing this rules out using zoom lenses? And if the phone shifts, you’d need to recalibrate it? (Can the App store calibration data for different lenses and between lens changes and uses?)
I guess needing to position it next to the lens means no Matt boxes either.
With the setup, perhaps a cage and something to securely attach the phone to the centre just above the lens and as far forward as it can go. (Something custom without joints, but maybe telescopic to allow for different lens sizes).
The phone could then be completely centered (for balance) and the LiDAR would be in approximately the same position it is here (except top mounted). Or if preferred, just slightly to one side instead of all the way, with the LiDAR perfectly centred over the lens.
If done correctly, the setup should be repeatable too, meaning no calibration each time?
Nice discovery! I love it. Seems like it would be easy to implement an ease in/out function, unless its some stepper motor limitation. though I CAN do it by hand with the usual Blackmagic camera app and get that soft ease. ive been using the iPhone LIDAR for visual effects needs for a while now. Scanning rooms to create models for reference and dynamics simulations. I can tell you, the awesome next step for this would be to merge the LIDAR metadata into the BRAW (sort of how Blackmagic is doing with the gyro for stabilization) and use the LIDAR to pull focus on anything, as well as aperture in post. I know, thats crazy but that would be amazing. sort of how the light field cameras work. oh I can only dream.
The resolution of the depth map of the iPhone LiDAR is : 256x192
You already get a beautiful background blur with lenses.
@@tradingcafe_fr 256x192 what?. And Im not suggesting using Lidar to generate bokeh.
This is amazing! I've been putting off looking into focus rings for months for my 4K, glad I did. Works like a charm and saves me more than a few bucks haha!
Always nice to save some dough! Hope it works well for you!
Black magic should make their own focus module. It’s a totally awesome possibility as the need of external focus motor is no longer there.
Hope this tech is further developed.
One should not be forced to buy Sony or Canon for AF and end up with less than optimal codecs.
You should buy a mirrorless camera if you want auto-focus and ProRes/LOG video. One should not buy a Cinema Camera expecting any form of auto-focus no more than they should expect photo-mode, further defeating the purpose of being a dedicated cinema camera.
@@captureinsidethesound I want a camera that can do in body RAW 4K ( BRAW or Pro res raw) with good AF. I am not making any feature films. I don’t want this camera to take any photos either. This will be very useful for TH-camrs for instance.
Can you recommend me such a mirror less camera for under 5K euros ?
@@captureinsidethesound Why should creator be forced to buy a MLC with auto focus which has inferior codec. also why should a Cine cam not come with auto focus. just because it comes with one does not mean it has to be used you can auto right disable it.
are you forgetting that the RED Komodo has autofocus feature built in and so are newer pro cam's with RF lenses or E mount lenses. the demand is now there.
We can agree that the Sony Alexa, Panavision, Red V Raptor e.t.c and the likes of Arri may not need auto focus but the Profession market i.e Prosumer market would benefit from it.
And yes BMPCC 6K should have come with a damn autofocus feature PDAF, does not mean it has to be use. so then better introduce something with there new Cube design yet to be release.
This video is underrated. This is so useful and crafty. Thank you for this gem of a hack!
The Bluetooth+ app for Blackmagic DOES allow focus pulling and points, as well as speed between points. Doesn't support Lidar yet to my knowledge.
Thank you so much for this. Totally awesome. I downloaded it, tried it out and purchased the app. Worth it!
This is literally the only video I’ve seen about this. How is no one talking about this still?
Yeah, still gotta spend the 2 bandz... Im overdue for a new gimbal anyways, I milked the crap out of my Crane 2. Still works though!
do i need auto focus or anything when shooting talking heads solo on a blackmagic? or just set focus and forget even when i move a little on my chair?
LIDAR tech is predominantly cool for giving vintage manual focus lenses that power of precision focusing for most user folks not used to manual glass. But this one seems to only use autofocus lenses.
Thank for a great review and a brilliant idea .
Can’t wait to grab my 6K and try it !
Also even bigger news seems to be that with this app , you can use your iPhone as a low lag video monitor!
Haha! Not monitoring BMPCC 6K … image is from iPhone :)
One thing blackmagic always does, is to wait for everyone to do all these modifications for a particular feature and then come out with a new version of the camera with the built-in feature that everyone is looking for....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....I'll wait for the auto focus.
Oh wow this is SO helpful!!
No ANDROID, That wipes out half the populous of Photographers. BRILLIANT!!
This would work well on a shoulder mount, and use a clamp mount for the iphone from the rod on the left side... Nice dude, i'm going to try this out!
Thanks for exploring new alternatives…. 👏👏👏
I love the big expensive toys like anyone else but it’s always nice to stumble upon something cool that also doesn’t wreck my wallet 😂
This also shows you’re clearly seeing in advance the future of this technology … so I appreciate people like you being always excited to investigate further and deeper…. So thanks again.😊
thank you for this video, but please also show us outside in open space, how its do the focus.
You can't smoothly transition from one focus mark to the other, it just jumps instantly.
"So that's kind of the only downside..."
Which basically makes it useless?
Not if you are vlogging
i shoot on my blackmagic in manual all the time, however i also do self tape auditions and for this I need an autofocus. been looking for an option and this may be the one.
thanks!
This is awesome! I would love to see a real-use application!
Lots of people asking so I may do a more real world scenario use of it vs the dji lidar!
That's pretty impressive!
Do you have to recalibrate it on your zoom lense, if it's not parfocal (which most zooms aren't) or does it have some internal data to compensate for that when telling the app which lense model you're using?
Going to test this more! Not sure to be honest. Kept it at 18mm for this video but it’s a great point for zooms!
@@initialfocus Agreed, this would be interesting to see!
I have a blackmagic 4K pocket camera and a Sigma 18-35mm lens. Does the app work with them?
im shocked this has taken as long as it has to be implemented. i hope we get this in more cameras.
Blackmagic actually has had this for quite a while, it was the lidar side on the phone that took the time. Cause I've used the focus pull from an other app in 2019 with my P4K.
Interesting concept but it doesn’t work well. I dont know if it’s the app or the iphone 13 pro max lidar but measured distances are wildly inconsistent, at least for me. Ill point at something 6 meters away then to something about 1 meter away then back to 6. Sometimes the 6 meter distance measures at 6, sometimes 1.5, other times any number in between. Would love to try the rs3 lidar to see if it’s the phone (which I suspect is the issue) but not sure it’s worth the money if it can’t be 100% reliable…or really even if it is.
I am a cheap skate but I've been wanting autofocus on my Blackmagic 6K for a long time. I've spent $12.99 on much less useful things. lmao. I did exactly what you said, downloaded the free version, tested it out with my lens, I was beyond tripped out seeing my BM6K autofocusing, and just bought it. I haven't done any calibrations yet but the mere fact that the connection was made and the lens was moving around as I moved my phone was enough for me to actually try to calibrate it. Thanks for being so vigorous at this problem!
Can you buy a lens that has autofocus and put it on the Blackmagic?
@@deltaboy2011 Yeah you can. The Blackmagic has 1 tap autofocus, not to be confused with continuous autofocus. If you press and hold on your screen or use the center autofocus button, your autofocus lens will do it's job. This app allows you to use continuous autofocus through bluetooth and lidar. It works pretty well, you just have to nail your calibration and mount it properly that it wont move.
@@Sincerelytk With an autofocus lens on Blackmagic camera, you can let it do its job continously without all the gimmicks of the iphone and app and so on right? I'm new to cameras.
@@deltaboy2011 No. You are incorrect. Without the iphone (for the example in this video) the camera will not "continuous" autofocus. ONLY 1 tap autofocus. The reason for this video is to show you how to get continuous autofocus without additional gear like a 3d lidar module and ronin gimbal.
@@Sincerelytk so not even an electronic focus lens won’t do it?
Probably better to use this with rods Than magic arm.
I take it, the app isn't available for Android?
This is pretty neat!
does this work on first 6k? NotG2,Not PRO
I mean as cool as this is...I really really suggest that people who go out a buy cine cameras just need to suck it up and pull focus manually. Yes is more effort and can be more expensive to do so but ultimately what you buy these camera bodies for is for more control over your image. I think the industry has gotten people to believe that "easy" is more convenient when in reality you really shouldn't cut corners where you don't have to. If you want auto focus there are plenty of good bodies out there (Canon R5C, C70 Sony FX3, FX6 etc.). These kind of solutions are nice to discover but out in the field can't be trusted fully.
Not a great solution when you’re snapping stills. Still need AF or twice as much time as a subject will give you.
Do u think a blackmagic production camera would be a good buy in 2022? As its now availabke used for cheap
Looks like a brilliant app and it would be great to see it working with a solid clamped iPhone and in some actual filming scenarios. Do you think you will be up for doing that?
Lots of people asking for it so I think I just might!
@@initialfocus awesome, can't wait to see it :)
Blackmagic just needs to have Sony level AF. The technology is out there. Enough with the cameras that don't have it at least built in as an option. GREAT VIDEO!
Unfortunately they don’t own any patents. So I don’t think they will ever have auto focus unless they acquire a company that has the technology.
i cant get this to work at all properly
do you need a electronic lens for this?
Yup!
Can you use the iPhone as a monitor with the lidar app running in the background?
thanks for sharing this amazing tech Michael! If I don't get wrong, only those iPhone series with lidar can use this function?
Welcome! And correct. I believe the iPhone 12 Pro was the first to get LiDAR so it would be the last 2 generations of Pro (max) iPhones.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention! Is there a way to slow down the focus pull, in case we want a gradual pull? Have you tested it out on let's say a push in on a single subject, to see if it focuses in steps or if it's gradual?
With the manual focus you can get pretty smooth. I’m sure it also may vary on the lens being used. However as I said in the video, for the markers there’s no smooth focus pull option. It just instantly switches.
@@initialfocus sorry I should’ve been more specific and said with the lidar option
I'm unable to download this app. every time i click the google link... it tells me the app isn't available in my region.
wich better blackmagic 4k or iphone 15 pro for virtual productions with green screen ?
Great idea. One question, if you move the iPhone, can you shift the focus to a point off centre? This would make up for one of the shorter comings you mentioned.
This is great thanks..
cannot find the app - please advise its correct name
“Focus Puller” it’s a red circle icon. On the iOS app store
How did you managed to connect the app to the BMPCC6k? It doesn,t work with me. I have the Iphone 13 and the latest bm firmware.
Does the issue seem on the app side or you don’t see the Bluetooth settings in ur Bm menu?
@@initialfocus App side. Camera ist connected to Iphone via Bluetooth.
It doesn't work for me, I connected the camera and the app, and I can't use the manual focus, the camera doesn't respond.
how about you connect DJI LiDAR to type c hub and type c hub to power and phone
Need this for the Sigma FP. So cool!
It technically works via Bluetooth so it may work with other cameras that can connect to stuff like this! Blackmagic is all I have though so I didn’t want to say it worked for all Bluetooth cameras.
@@initialfocus did you mentioned which iphone you were using?
Insane!
Pretty cool app for sure!
Why not just make a LiDar Bluetooth device that connects directly and therefore controls the camera?
RnD
Nothing for Android?
Nothing found yet comparable. Still looking!
I have seen many limitations on the system, do you have a better app using the lidar to connect at the camera? The focus with a reference only the center is ultra ultra basic, impossible to use the sytem on a gimbal... Thanks
No App for Android Smartphones?🙃
not possible to connect LIDAR focus viewer not supported on this device (device: euro, France) ?
I don't work 4K pocket Lunix 25 so wasted money.
You mention needing a lens with electronic focus. I use a Sigma 18-35 1.8 DC lens. How do I know if that or any other lens has electronic focus? How do you check for that? Thanks!
If your lens has any auto focus ability (which ur does) then it’s an electronic lens. Giveaways are the electric pins by the back of the lens mount. Cine lenses or full manual lenses don’t have those.
Doh ... it works only with Iphone Pro/Pro Max.
You can still manually pull focus using other iPhones (I got Mini 13).
would this work for the ursamini 4.6k?
Can something similar be done with an android and ronin sc2?
This looks interesting
does it work with the best black magic camera, the bmpcc original OG? BECAUSE YOUR VIDEO HEADING SAYS "AutoFocus For Blackmagic Cameras".
Somebody knows something like that for android?
Crazy 😎 cool!!
After test this app my lumix 12-35/2.8 not work! The focus is not work 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂ How to recover the functionality of my lens ???😭 How to return my default calibration of the lens ?
Would it work with a Viltrox speedbooster?
As long as the speedbooster and lens still had the metal connectors to enable autofocus in camera then yes it should work just fine
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no no for me . thanks 4 sharing
Does this work for the 6K v1?
Awesome video! I noticed that your lens was an 18-135. What field of view were you on when you calibrated? And what happens when you zoom in/out? Does it keep focus still?
You know, I did not really test that lol. Just stayed at 18mm. I’ll test it out for the next video people are asking for
i need this on android!!!!
I’m still looking for any android alternatives!
@@initialfocus is there Lidar on any andriod phones is the question
I don't know BMD cameras, but besides the adding markers feature, would the camera not have similar in camera features like Sony cameras do for touch track subject , etc. what's the limitations of using the lens AF function to achieve center focus versus using the phone Lidar?
cool 🙏
God this technology 🔥, why don’t you tera out in reel world, would be really find video
The app Bluetooth + for bmpcc’s has been around for years. I get it this is LiDAR?!
Great app but If you have to tap on the phone to change focus then the process is still pretty much manual.
Most folks looking for autofocus need to concentrate on shooting the subject while the focus is being taken care of automatically, I stand to be corrected though.
What lens are you using? I am new to this. I don't understand how to have an electronic lens on a Black Magic. I have the BMPCC 4k.
This is dope.
Right??
@@initialfocus on the calibration with the app how many pin points do you have to do?
I believe the minimum is 15 but you can do more.
@@initialfocus how cool would it be if the software just figured it out and you didn’t need to calibrate it?
objektiv olympus 40-150??
Do they have anything like this that gives you auto ISO?
BRAW
Could this application work also on Nikon DSLRs????????????
How is the black magic camera tracking in the beginning?!?
DJI LiDAR for the RS3 Pro gimbal has active track
Its absolutely upsetting how they couldn't even do a basic contrast based AF for a supposedly professional camera. Yes I am not a pro, but I tried it today the first time and I have no idea who in the world will sign up for that struggle of having to focus his video ALL THE F TIME manually like that. ITs just some sort of sad joke to me. No battery charge included even, damn.. Thanks God they put all the buttons into the box at least...
You realize every single Hollywood movie ever was shot with manual focus right? 😅 cinema cameras having AF is a very unique and new thing. Most of us are used to manual focusing everything lol but I certainly understand why so many people prefer AF.
I dont know if you need the actual gimbal to use the dji lidar and motor focus puller
does it have sitting to make the focus smother or tune the speed of transition the focus?
Do you know if AC APP for Android offers something similar with a Pixel 6? Eg: auto tracking like demonstrated in your video?
Could not get this app to auto-focus at all. Manually it works though.
This is genius :)
okay this is sick. DOWNLOADING NOW
It’s a great little app to have! Probably not going to be used on every shoot but damn if I needed autofocus in a pinch for some setup. It’s a nice option to be able to quickly rig on.
Cool, Does it work with Sony? And if so, you can add those markers and have the focus on slow... Will check it out.
Would this work on GH5 or is there anything similar ?
I’m not sure. In theory it could be any Bluetooth camera but I’d suggest downloading for free and testing
Hi Michael ! Such a great idea !!!
Is It avalaible for android phone?
Thanks a lot!
cool tool, too bad i just sold my 6k pro for a RED komodo
then you have this feature built in in your komodo
Haha that’s a flex my guy 😂 Komodo has auto focus built in!
@@initialfocus lol, yea but the auto focus isn't the best ! still in beta
I think you mean you sold 6, 6K pros ha ha. unless you got one hell of a deal
Hey would you mind listing the magic arm , phone clamp, and phone case you used or magic arm that you would recommend?
I think this is cheaper and better
Does this work with the bigger URSAʻs?
Uhh is there a magic arm that isn’t over $100?
Iphone is not low budget guys :D
Well that’s why I tried to phrase it as “if you already have one of the last 2 Gen iPhones” 😅 haha but I get what you’re saying
@@initialfocus Does this work with S20+ samsungs. They also have some depth sensors but no lidar I'm afraid.
Saw the thumbnail/title and had to check this out - you know me, I suffer from Unrealistic Minimalism.... What if you get an accessory for the hotshoe area that allows you to shift the phone so that the lidar area is pararell with the lens, THEN tilt the lidar down slightly so that it's viewing pretty much with the lens is? Maybe you've tried it and it doesn't work. But if something like that could work... DUUUUUUDE!
Hah! Of course this is the video that grabs you 😂 and you know, you’re the second person to mention something like that. I think it’s a great idea. Much for stable and minimal looking to mount on top and then just aim down to have the green dot focused on where the middle framing of the camera is focused on. There’s no reason it wouldn’t work!
"Unrealistic Minimalism" I love that.