Void Stranger - Playthrough 30 (Light Orbs/Defects/All Memory Crystals/Secret Fruits/Zero Justice)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- It's finally here, all the interesting things I found in the game after I stopped streaming everything (after I started grinding for fall carnival).
A few light orbs and defects had been part of my videos but I decided to put them here again for convenience's sake.
![[SPOILERS] Void Stranger - All Void Court Scenes](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/sUPNMsItplg/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for your dedication in these videos and streams, I would have never seen small details and dialogs like these otherwise.
What a great game.
yeah, this game is special.
i got sucked into this game hardcore for 50+ hours and i have no idea what these light orbs even are lol
i feel like there's still so much game i haven't seen
Is the solution to the light ball riddle "o/0/zero" somehow
No one is perfect without me - not sure how this works, even if I interpret one as "1"
I've got nothing to offer, yet I make others look plentiful - 0 on it's own is nothing, but put a bunch of zeros after another number and it's huge
Some can't live without me, for others I'm all there's left - Some ideas
I can't be shared, yet I'm neverending - can't divide zero (not really, can't divide BY zero) but you can around a circle forever
I'm nothing yet I'm the greatest of them all - I guess zero could be "the greatest" if you rank things from 0, idk man, or if the zero character is somehow the greatest
Without me, one is meaningless - I guess that makes some sense if one here is "1"
There you go! That's everything relevant, fantastic playthrough and amazing dedication. You did good!
Great game, too.
So maybe the original staff of DIS researching the Sakra-Devanam machine were in some way the template for all of the Void Lords? You can clearly tell that there's parallels to Gor, Bee, Mon and Lev, so the rest must be parallel somehow as well.
Human!Bee looks as cheerful as her Void Lord counterpart. Would probably take either one out for coffee and donuts sometime.
My pet theory is that Lily, who was on site, had her memories merged with what ended up being ADD, so add ended up making the lords to somewhat resemble people Lily knew.
My personal theory is that after EUS' treachery (likely a love-related transgression?), ADD decided to separate her memories away from herself and basically do a "pen test" of the Void -- a giant sieve sifting souls for DIS compatibility. Through BEE's predictable nature she conspired to return to the Void someday, under a guise unknown...
All her memories stowed away in the intro cutscene's DIS-plugged crystal orb, safe from the void of time.
...But before she were replugged, the world around her grew on her. Either she'd continue following those she loved, never to return to the Void again, or she would know the unknowable and return to her former ruthlessness -- only to merge it with her newfound appreciation for the others, and a newfound emotion. Love.
5:16
So... Dr. Lily and Lev are seemingly two sides of the same coin, then? As further evidenced by the mask Dr. Lily wears over her mouth, the short hair, and the way her eyes look in the closeup shot.
This also shows that Add's true love was quite literally the original human form of Eus, not Lily's mom (the queen). Same dark skin and white hair as Tail's form in VS Gray.
The rightmost individual is Cif's human form, who tried to stop Dr. Lily... Hummm.
Given their similarities (appearance-wise), I have to wonder if the person some call "Erasure" is actually Dr. Lily's sister, who is investigating DIS to search for her? Would make sense, given Dr. Lily must have disappeared after the incident depicted in the carcass ending. It'd also be tragic, then, that Lev kills Erasure.
Thanks for documenting all this! I think the only thing missing here is that there's a 6th Zero Justice scene. I'm not sure if I'd call it "missing", though, since the unlock conditions for it are not only obscure, but also seemingly impossible to activate through intended means.
(The following information was obtained through "backdoor" means, so look away if that bothers you. It's also possible that this scene will get patched in later, in which case, ignore the rest of this comment!)
From the dialogue, it supposedly happens if you repeatedly enter and leave the "give up?" state seen at 5:59 7 times. (This can only happen once per floor, so it would take a bit.)
Like all Zero Justice scenes, it will not happen if you have the Endless staff and are not currently VOIDed.
The main reason it seems impossible is twofold:
1) Entering the "give up?" state while not VOIDed is strange. There appears to be code that would allow you to get it by repeatedly punching the same enemy, but I haven't been able to get it to happen from my own testing. (Jumping down a pit repeatedly doesn't work - it only counts that when VOIDed)
2) The variable that the game checks for (presumably the "get up" count) is never actually incremented at any point - at least to my knowledge. It looks for (9, 0) on the obj_inventory.ds_player_info grid - but the only instance I can find of it being set to anything other than 0 is by using a debug menu.
If you want to see the scene directly, you can always cheat - like before, this involves backdoor info!
At any point in the game, hold space and type "P E L L E H" to access the debug menu. You can then scroll through the "Special" menu and select "Justice 5" to view the scene. Note that messing with the debug menu can put your save file into some weird positions, so be careful!
thank you so much for allowing me to experience this incredible game
It's definetely a special game
Thank you
Do you have to do anything specific to trigger the light orbs + defects? I saw a light orb once, but the only "defect" I ever saw was the worm thing on hardmode b105 (which I think is always there, from how the room was laid out).
These were different runs, it's been suggested by others that the game has some sort of karma system and that light orbs are tied to positive karma and the defects to negative karma. One of the light orbs appeared for me after admitting my guilt in trial so I think being honest increases your karma, and I imagine punching people and throwing them into the void would be the opposite.
Another orb appeared after messing with the womb room but then I went there a couple more times and got a new defect so maybe it randomizes your karma somewhat.
Also, by starting a new save I could see that specific orbs appear in specific places, so those orbs in the video should always appear in the same position you see (when meeting the karma).
Timestamps below, but I'll note a few things I tried that yielded no results, so that you don't waste your time doing the same:
-Getting GOR to give me a bunch of locusts, if you have 0 locusts she'll give you one, and if you activate the sword quest and feed the half dead people she will keep giving you locusts, but gave up after taking a dozen locusts and nothing happening.
-The game's alphabet uses a 3x3 grid, this means you can write 4-letter words in the 6x6 rooms. II tried writing "VOID" and "ZERO" but nothing happened, sadly.
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00:00 The light orbs, I could find 6, each one seemed to spawn only once. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more, but these are what I found. "zero" sees to be the answer for several of these riddles (if not all of them).
1:57 We start with the defects, I could find 8 and considering there are 8 void lords I think I probably got all of them.
4:48 Fruits/vegetables I hadn't gotten before.
5:13 The reward for getting all memory crystals.
5:29 Menu art I with the golems that I had missed before.
5:51 Killing yourself while voided seems to put you in some sort of timeout, I think you should be able to trigger this more than once, but after recovering I couldn't immediately trigger it again, perhaps it required getting further before it being able to happen again.
Zero Justice.
6:14 Being naughty and trying to cheat the game y farming locusts by closing the game will get you in trouble.
9:05 "Not Guilty"
9:42 File Save editing.
12:02 "Not Guilty"
12:28 Closing the game to cheat death.
15:13 "Not Guilty".
15:33 Closing the game to reset rooms.
17:57 "Not Guilty"
18:24 Getting too handsy with TAIL will get you brought too court as well.
20:10 "Not Guilty".
Best I can figure about about the voided get up scene is that it will only trigger once per floor. It was a feature added in an update 1.0.2 if you look at the old patch notes.
Random question for sometime later - when you plead guilty on one of the ones that make you lose a locust every floor, what happens when you reach 0 and go to the next floor? Do you automatically die and have to take the fruit, or does it stay at 0?
Hey there !
You’re the only one I’ve seen pushing this game so much on TH-cam and I can’t find the play through 1 to 25 on your channel is this normal ?
Thank you very much for the orbs. Those are probably the hardest to see in their entirety, compared to the All-Caps Rejects.
EDIT: 5:30 -- HOW DID I MISS THAT
I missed it at first as well, only appears after you talk to it first
Hi, thanks so much for all the Void Stranger vids, they helped me out a lot. I was wondering if you have any plans of compiling all the dialogue/cutscene segments of the game into a story compliation video, skipping the puzzle parts?
I have no plans to at the moment, I was foolish enough to only steam and not store the videos, which means the only available footage for most of my stuff is TH-cam's compressed videos, so I'd have to replay everything from the start. While I want to make another video on the topic, if I end up making it it will be something that'll take a lot less footage to edit (and something I find more interesting as a project)
Just a little trivia but it seems you can't get the Zero Court cutscenes if you are playing as the third character.
C prosecuting herself would be a funny sight indeed
Just finished watching all the videos, thank you for such a comprehensive Playthrough!
I gave up playing the game pretty early, because I really don't like repetition, and having to solve the same puzzles multiple times is something I couldn't stomach; but aside from that, I really enjoyed the game, story and characters, and thanks to your videos I found just how much work was put into this seemingly simple game.
I have to wonder why it is that the Justice value for the game can be increased pretty much indefinitely by feeding those creatures Locusts (one of the first secret things I noticed, since the game simply prints the Justice value on standard output): is it just because you're being charitable, or is there some other meaning to it? The creatures don't seem to appreciate it anyway...
A thing that I don't recall being mentioned in the videos or comments is that the timeout state you mentioned and show at 5:51 is called "ketutuskäyrä", a Finnish word (also hatutuskäyrä or vitutuskäyrä), which means something like "graph of how unhappy/pissed you are"; I found it easily because I sucked at the game ^^, but have no idea if there's more to it, not pressing anything seems to do nothing, and pressing the button only a few times makes the character eventually drop back down
Yeah the game is designed in a way that not everyone will like, I'm the kind that likes pushing forward regardless but people finding friction in the game will just find more and more and more friction the farther they go in, it's inevitable. Regarding the state in 5:51, how did you figure out its name? is it mentioned somewhere I missed?
@@lunarplexus4442 KETUTUSKAYRA is just one of the many things the game prints to standard output; I saw it increase every time I died and reset with every new floor, that's it
@@InsightOnVideogamesMakes sense, I didn't run the game on a terminal much
That was fun.
Can the trial scenes trigger after you kill Bee in a DIS run?
Hmm, I didn't think to try, I guess that's another one for the list
Any idea how to get all 128 crystals?
@@OmegaVideoGameGodhow many are you missing? there are a few hidden ones that can only be found by finding picross maps, there are 8 of those if I'm not misremembering, all 5 shortcuts feature 1 and there are a few more (the cutting room and gor's stinky hole have 1 each, I forgot where the last one is)
12, i did the shortcuts 4 of them im missing in dis and as for the picross puzzles can you tell me where theyre at@@lunarplexus4442