Who did also observe the small bohemians banner in the middle of the mill on the start of the video... Could this be a hint? 😂🤔🤔🤔. This small detail just let me smile. Really loved this!
Have been waiting for something like this, it's been something I wanted to start learning. Figured this is a good thing to know. Thanks for the video,Hera!
I think a lot of your viewers were loving the heraChill and joked on the Guess the ELO series, I hope you do it from time to time or do a poll on including ir or not.
Well made, good job! Brits have been my fav civ since the release of Age of Kings. Using fully decked-out Longbowmen is just super sweet, I love their range, same spiced up trebs.
Hi Hera, I got to say I'm really enjoying this new format you've chosen, the videos have very good and concise info and they are fun to watch. Tbh before it I prefered other youtubers for this kind of content and now I'm really hoping to see more of you, keep it up you're doing a great job!
I would have had Portuguese on the honorable mention. Units -20% gold. Techs researched 30% faster. Not only does this help making archers but when your enemy inevitably goes for a counter you have a counter counter which costs less gold. Mangonels are very expensive and counter archers well. If you can trade evenly, you are saving 27 gold every time. If they go skirms you have mangonels or cheaper knights to destroy them. Besides having cheaper "best castle" units in knights and archers, you also have cheaper monks if your enemy techs into strong unique units.
Amazing video, glad you put vietnamese on the honorable mention at least! They're definitely one of my favorite civs in the entire game since the archery range bonus also applies to cav archers (plus bloodlines!) and you have the imp skirmisher option later into the game which is a rather crazy unit. Will you consider doing a top 5 cav archer civs / strats? Maybe top 7?
well mostly agree I think aztecs and incas are also honorable mention, with aztecs producing faster and the eagles in the background, and the Incas, with the house bonus (saving a lot of wood, fully upgraded arbalest, and maybe the number one is a litlle bit a one trick pony beaten by rams hallbardier or elearcher monk scout combi like bengalis, gurjara e.g. do
I was thinking Portuguese might be worth a mention because of their gold discount allowing them to outmass and the faster-researching technologies meaning you'll beat your opponent to power spikes if he's also going archers.
I agree with the list but I expect archer rushes when playing against the top 3 so I make a few skirms or scouts. I like to use Tatars with a goal to end the game in castle age on 1 tc. That way not having arbs doesn't matter. I like the free thumb ring spike as its kind of similar to the Eth faster firing archers.
What about the Huns? Don’t they deserve a mention at least? The saving wood is amazing and the archer upgrades will be very useful for cav archers. One could argue that Huns are better than Vikings…
I don't agree about Mayans and Britions. Mayans have cheaper archers than britions so they should be Top 1 as Goths cheaper infnatry makes them above Aztecs. Plus, Mayan skirmishers are also better. Plumed archers also beat longbowman. Mayan quantity is above Briton's quality.
Do you still have build order guides on discord? Tried to join server and got an error saying out of date invite. Great guide. Got all 5 I use, Britons, Mayans, Ethiopian, Viking, and Vietnamese
Werewolf Trebuchets... haha, I know the English/British spell some things funnily! At least we have the nice looking/beautiful 'u's in our words here though!
This ain't Starcraft; a rush usually doesn't kill off your enemy, since Feudal armies struggle against buildings. As such, a rush has to be viable in Castle Age, IMO, minimum.
@@mbvglider flush main objective is to cripple the opponent's economy right? Whether using archer or scout. So just like malay, you can flush with archer and then change into battle elephant rush in the castle and imp.
@@TheKobasen That's not really a battle elephant rush, then, if you really do an archer rush first, since that's not an aggressive timing. That's just called a transition. An archer rush can be executed with any civ, if it just means creating 6-8 units that are expected to die before Castle Age.
I'm always hesitant to put Saracen archers against archer civs like Vietnamese, partly because I feel like Saracens do have other options like knights. Can Saracens match those civs in going archers or is it just better to use their other options?
yeah its weird, it almost feels like saracens is MUCH better vs cav civs. Vs archer civs i think going for arch timing till xbow then going on skirms is prolly fine
We're definitely overdue a new top-tier archer civ. Yes Bohemians could be seen as kinda an archer civ as it often makes up the backbone of their comp, and Koreans have been steadily buffed to make them more of an archer civ since DE released, but other than that we haven't had a straight-up archer civ added since 2016 with Vietnamese. I'm also not counting Tatars as they're more of a cav archer civ. They could make one with faster-moving archers maybe? Or one that gets crossbow upgrade for free?
Both of those would be game-breaking, though. Honestly, Poles, Bohemians, and Tatars make excellent archer civs. It's just that they have other bonuses that people choose to use instead. I think buffing speed or giving crossbow for free is too scary. Skirms already kinda suck in the early/mid game, and they'd be useless against such a civ.
@@mbvglider I'm not arguing that those civs can't go for archers and be very strong for it, hell even Sicilians and post-nerf Vikings are still really good with them. But I don't see any of those civs ever making it into a top-5 list like this, so that's kinda what I want to see added, a new civ that is indisputably top-tier when it comes to archers, like Lithuanians for cavalry, Tatars for cav archers etc. The bonuses I mentioned were literally just spitballing ideas, of course balance needs to be considered. Just bear in mind that bonuses/techs some in the community assumed would be game-breakingly OP in the past often haven't turned out that way in practice e.g. Wootz Steel, Cuman 2TC etc. I know release Cumans were stupidly strong but that was a combination of factors, not down to just their TC bonus.
Wait.....Chinese not on the list but every bonus that made them #1 for scouts also applies here? I get that maybe you took the feedback from last time but at least honorable mention them and explain why they arent on here, otherwise its confusing to the viewers?
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Can't you go extra-HP scouts to counter the skirms though? Then your archers would cover any enemy spears and it doesn't go late game, no? Also, *it's. :P
ok really? britons at #1 with almost no bonus before castle age? i thought this is a joke for quite long. you talked about warwulf in the context of archer rushing. but its kinda consistent with mentioning malay but not bengalis, whose archer rush is straight-forward 100 food stronger than malays'
@@derikaem8021 I think you dont realize how op long range is. Also britons do have sheep bonus so they can just go 5 on sheep and get more wood which let them do double archer range prod FAST. Once you get to castle age the range bonus is too amazing. Also faster range prod.
@@herotalib9556 there is no extra range in feudal when you archer rush. when you archer rush you risk that you’re archers are dead before castle age. sheep bonus is nice, but most civs i mentioned have better eco so they archer rush better. or they have a strong feudal archer bonus
This was just "best archer civ" rather than archer rush. "Archer rush" implies your transition is not part of the consideration, just how fast and hard you hit initially. Like Japanese are great, but not top tier for long term.
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Honorable mentions to Bulgarians and Spanish for the surprise factor
Gets em everytime.
You can do Lithuanians at 19 pop. Now that's a surprise
Dont forget franks, on a more serious note
Actually a couple of times it was a HUGE surprise, but for me. I invested in 12 archers and then no xbows on castle age :D
No one expects the Spanish Archer Rush.
11:04 those pesky werewolf trebuchet, they are way too powerful during full moon imho
LOOOL IM ALWAYS MAKING JOKES LIKE THAT!! Thank you for having the same humor and giving me a laugh
One weakness for the Britons though, those werewolf trebs aren't great during the day time battles so avoid fighting them at night.
When they start moonwalking backwards and singing "Thriller," you know it's on.
Don't worry, the battlefield is at north pole so you never has night time
We all know that Hera left out the true best archer civ, Magyars. Non of these civs on this list can make fully upgraded Paladin.
and hussars dont forget
Omg how could I of forgotten.
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 and huszar
Saracens can make FU hussars though.
rather cav archer but yes and don t forget the broken arena civ, the poles
The openings with the music and the woodchopping is a vibe
aoe2 sounds are so chill
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 until you watch you or Viper scroll through buildings and get a horse neighing every .5 seconds 🤔
Who did also observe the small bohemians banner in the middle of the mill on the start of the video... Could this be a hint? 😂🤔🤔🤔.
This small detail just let me smile. Really loved this!
Have been waiting for something like this, it's been something I wanted to start learning. Figured this is a good thing to know. Thanks for the video,Hera!
Hey hera are you planning to get back to guess the elo series ? Its quite fun and instructive when you point out the mistakes during those games
Gonna do a coaching series instead prolly
I think a lot of your viewers were loving the heraChill and joked on the Guess the ELO series, I hope you do it from time to time or do a poll on including ir or not.
Well made, good job! Brits have been my fav civ since the release of Age of Kings. Using fully decked-out Longbowmen is just super sweet, I love their range, same spiced up trebs.
Also FU halberdiers as meatshields. Makes sense since the English billmen are feared in the Middle ages.
Hi Hera, I got to say I'm really enjoying this new format you've chosen, the videos have very good and concise info and they are fun to watch. Tbh before it I prefered other youtubers for this kind of content and now I'm really hoping to see more of you, keep it up you're doing a great job!
I love Malay in closed maps like Hideout. If you don't mess up you get to a faster imp and destroy with bbc arbs
Love the list. If I had to shout out a civ that wasn't mentioned, it'd be Tatars. The thumb ring spike still catches so many people off guard
A history of my favorite civs for 1v1 ranked
Bulgarians- Hindustanis- Tatars- Ethiopians. I love archer rushes now :)
I would have had Portuguese on the honorable mention. Units -20% gold. Techs researched 30% faster. Not only does this help making archers but when your enemy inevitably goes for a counter you have a counter counter which costs less gold. Mangonels are very expensive and counter archers well. If you can trade evenly, you are saving 27 gold every time. If they go skirms you have mangonels or cheaper knights to destroy them. Besides having cheaper "best castle" units in knights and archers, you also have cheaper monks if your enemy techs into strong unique units.
Amazing video, glad you put vietnamese on the honorable mention at least! They're definitely one of my favorite civs in the entire game since the archery range bonus also applies to cav archers (plus bloodlines!) and you have the imp skirmisher option later into the game which is a rather crazy unit.
Will you consider doing a top 5 cav archer civs / strats? Maybe top 7?
well mostly agree I think aztecs and incas are also honorable mention, with aztecs producing faster and the eagles in the background, and the Incas, with the house bonus (saving a lot of wood, fully upgraded arbalest, and maybe the number one is a litlle bit a one trick pony beaten by rams hallbardier or elearcher monk scout combi like bengalis, gurjara e.g. do
I was thinking Portuguese might be worth a mention because of their gold discount allowing them to outmass and the faster-researching technologies meaning you'll beat your opponent to power spikes if he's also going archers.
And they can mix in a lot of knights too. Castle age mass double gold unit with mangos push is deadly
I think it's really interesting that the last tourny we have data for (RMS cup2) Vietnamese were not drafted at all.
Britons should be placed under behind Mayan and Ethiopian. the scale to late game is definitely true, but video titled archer rush.
I agree with the list but I expect archer rushes when playing against the top 3 so I make a few skirms or scouts. I like to use Tatars with a goal to end the game in castle age on 1 tc. That way not having arbs doesn't matter. I like the free thumb ring spike as its kind of similar to the Eth faster firing archers.
Completely missing the 17pop dravidian archer rush
I'm surprised you didn't put Bohemians on the list, not even as an honorable mention.
What about the Huns? Don’t they deserve a mention at least? The saving wood is amazing and the archer upgrades will be very useful for cav archers. One could argue that Huns are better than Vikings…
I love Ethiopians because if your archers are countered you just build 80 shotels and them to you opponents base
I don't agree about Mayans and Britions. Mayans have cheaper archers than britions so they should be Top 1 as Goths cheaper infnatry makes them above Aztecs. Plus, Mayan skirmishers are also better. Plumed archers also beat longbowman. Mayan quantity is above Briton's quality.
"Cwass bow" lol
Joking, loving your new videos :)
Damn I miss the gameplay videos, I wish there was a second channel where I could see Hera slaying the ladder
There is a second channel called "Hera Gameplay" or something like that
boy do I have good news for you
+plug +engagement
Lucky you!
Yeah but Hera would never do that for his fa…..WHAT?
The nerf Britons guy will be so happy to see his point validated.
cumans with the surprise factor, and cheap ranges, are good for rushing. not playable long term, but you can damage your enemy early
You can just pump out so many archers that by the time the enemy starts making skirms it is pointless
What would be a good strategy to go with Britons against Ethiopians? When u want to play with archers
What the name of the mod that puts a horse sign on the Stable when it's being constructed??
i.e. at 6:40
Top 5 monk rush civs?
I am surprised about Chinese being left out. They are like Vikings. No crazy archers, but massive Eco to make a good Archerrush
"Werewolf Trebuchets" :D 11
Do you still have build order guides on discord? Tried to join server and got an error saying out of date invite. Great guide. Got all 5 I use, Britons, Mayans, Ethiopian, Viking, and Vietnamese
No Tatars or Bohemians? I feel they deserved a mention at least.
With Archer he means Foot-Archer (Arbalest etc.) and Skirmisher, i am very sure...
I really thought Tatars was going to be in 5th place. The power spike they get when they reach Castle Age is crazy good…
Werewolf Trebuchets... haha, I know the English/British spell some things funnily!
At least we have the nice looking/beautiful 'u's in our words here though!
I expected 1 to also be chinese
ahahaha not quite
No love for Portuguese? -20% gold cost on 45 gold archer = 9 gold per archer. Plus faster techs. Probably just below the other honorable mentions
i want to be a vil in Hera’s town. Very cozy
So by rush you mean stick with the unit until the mid and late game and not civ that can get their archer the fastest.
no getting it out early is important but for archers its also important to have good tech for mid-late game
This ain't Starcraft; a rush usually doesn't kill off your enemy, since Feudal armies struggle against buildings. As such, a rush has to be viable in Castle Age, IMO, minimum.
@@mbvglider flush main objective is to cripple the opponent's economy right? Whether using archer or scout. So just like malay, you can flush with archer and then change into battle elephant rush in the castle and imp.
@@TheKobasen That's not really a battle elephant rush, then, if you really do an archer rush first, since that's not an aggressive timing. That's just called a transition. An archer rush can be executed with any civ, if it just means creating 6-8 units that are expected to die before Castle Age.
Nice.
Can you make a fast imp Rush with turks PLS?
Tatars maybe? With that nice early eco bonus and free thumbring
Do they get that in feudal or castle?
The Clap at 10:28? Was for auto hype for Britons? 🤣🤣11
when is better to go double-range straight archers vs maa into archers?
I'm always hesitant to put Saracen archers against archer civs like Vietnamese, partly because I feel like Saracens do have other options like knights. Can Saracens match those civs in going archers or is it just better to use their other options?
yeah its weird, it almost feels like saracens is MUCH better vs cav civs. Vs archer civs i think going for arch timing till xbow then going on skirms is prolly fine
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Makes sense. I've learned so much and have so much fun from watching your channel! Ty!!!
Love it
Really surprised at how high you value the viking economy, putting them above Vietnamese and Koreans, both of which have much better archers
Free wheelbarrow/handcart is that good of an eco bonus. It makes their knight rush viable despite missing bloodlines.
We're definitely overdue a new top-tier archer civ. Yes Bohemians could be seen as kinda an archer civ as it often makes up the backbone of their comp, and Koreans have been steadily buffed to make them more of an archer civ since DE released, but other than that we haven't had a straight-up archer civ added since 2016 with Vietnamese. I'm also not counting Tatars as they're more of a cav archer civ. They could make one with faster-moving archers maybe? Or one that gets crossbow upgrade for free?
Both of those would be game-breaking, though. Honestly, Poles, Bohemians, and Tatars make excellent archer civs. It's just that they have other bonuses that people choose to use instead. I think buffing speed or giving crossbow for free is too scary. Skirms already kinda suck in the early/mid game, and they'd be useless against such a civ.
@@mbvglider I'm not arguing that those civs can't go for archers and be very strong for it, hell even Sicilians and post-nerf Vikings are still really good with them. But I don't see any of those civs ever making it into a top-5 list like this, so that's kinda what I want to see added, a new civ that is indisputably top-tier when it comes to archers, like Lithuanians for cavalry, Tatars for cav archers etc. The bonuses I mentioned were literally just spitballing ideas, of course balance needs to be considered. Just bear in mind that bonuses/techs some in the community assumed would be game-breakingly OP in the past often haven't turned out that way in practice e.g. Wootz Steel, Cuman 2TC etc. I know release Cumans were stupidly strong but that was a combination of factors, not down to just their TC bonus.
Why is there bohemians in the start of the video 11
just giving them a shout out for their annoying chemistry crossbow in castle age, as a knight player 1111
is the #1 archer rush civ Chinese? ;) :P
not this time around :D
I want the crazy build order video!
No Italians? Anti cavalry archers?
I mean after this video someone has to say it: Nerf BRITONS pls
You might put Malay at #1 for lols, but I'm gonna guess it's gonna be Britons. It's always been Britons.
No Italians or Bohemians?
Khmer, Britons, Mayans, Etiopians, Celts my guess
Wait.....Chinese not on the list but every bonus that made them #1 for scouts also applies here? I get that maybe you took the feedback from last time but at least honorable mention them and explain why they arent on here, otherwise its confusing to the viewers?
As a wise man said, nerf Briton plz!
What about Mongols, with a super fast Feudal uptime. And almost fully upgraded arbs
amazing to rush fast, but its actually good on TG and not so good on 1v1 believe it or not
Scouts would be better for mongols than archers. Going for scouts saves 100 wood on mining camp.
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Why? Seems like always getting archers before your opponent can only be a good thing? I kept waiting for you to say Mongols too.
@@Qn_ they fizzle out cuz they get no other bonuses for their economy past early game, and its easy to neutralize archers with skirms
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Can't you go extra-HP scouts to counter the skirms though? Then your archers would cover any enemy spears and it doesn't go late game, no?
Also, *it's. :P
I miss the NERF BRITONS PLS guy
Ok, before I start watching, I know Chinese have to be top
Where is the Chinese?
Talking about archer rush and not mentioning Tatty 😭
First? :). Love these high effort vids btw
It's WARwolf not WEREwolf... Why can't aoe2 players read?
nerf britons plz ???
Britons are historicallly celts, just shows OP Celts are mo chara!
predicting:
1.ethiopeans,
2.vietnamese,
3.maya,
4.celts,
5.aztecs,
honorable mentions: saracens, dravidians, cumans, teutons, japanese, hindustanis
honorable mention from my own opinion: huns
ok really? britons at #1 with almost no bonus before castle age?
i thought this is a joke for quite long. you talked about warwulf in the context of archer rushing.
but its kinda consistent with mentioning malay but not bengalis, whose archer rush is straight-forward 100 food stronger than malays'
@@derikaem8021 I think you dont realize how op long range is. Also britons do have sheep bonus so they can just go 5 on sheep and get more wood which let them do double archer range prod FAST. Once you get to castle age the range bonus is too amazing. Also faster range prod.
@@herotalib9556 there is no extra range in feudal when you archer rush. when you archer rush you risk that you’re archers are dead before castle age. sheep bonus is nice, but most civs i mentioned have better eco so they archer rush better. or they have a strong feudal archer bonus
This was just "best archer civ" rather than archer rush. "Archer rush" implies your transition is not part of the consideration, just how fast and hard you hit initially. Like Japanese are great, but not top tier for long term.
Iike, the Lithuanians have a nasty 20 pop archer *rush. I wouldn't build a range blind against them so it's a powerful play.