Why Quarry Lakes Can Be Killers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2015
- Mineral Products Association, Kent Fire and Rescue Service and Lafarge Tarmac's Sevenoaks Quarry explain the hazards associated with swimming in quarry lakes. The impact of cold water is highlighted as the Fire and Rescue Service demonstrate a rescue.
If you find yourself in very cold water, then the best thing to do is to try swim on your back, it will save your life
Can't panic gotta control breathing and lay back
Good to know bro 😌 sheesh
I do life saving, if your In cold water you could get cramps in your body (not like stomach cramps) then you lay on your back and float. But I swim in the sea and it’s very cold so yeah. And if there is a current u lay on your back till your out of the current :)
@@mrrgannss Thanks for the info. Are there currents farther in the sea or mostly just near the beach?
@@danlightened don't be daft
My heart goes out to you and your family i lost my cousin yesterday in the worcestershire quarry he went out with his friends like a normal day he jumped in once and got out fine he jumped in the second time but at a higher side of the quarry and struggled to get out im in so much shock that we lost our cousin i feel like its all a dream stay safe guys and dont jump in quarrys theyre killers and are so dangerous please stay safe guys❤
People just need to exercise caution, I swim outdoors all the time, the sea is cold but people still swim in it, and the sea has rip currents. Other countries like Germany create nice swimming areas from old quarries.
In the UK we just rob the ground of its mineral wealth and create YET ANOTHER PAY TO FISH LAKE.
Accidents and drownings have always happened, they happen every year around the coast, but we do not fence off the beaches and put up warning signs of deep cold water.
It is more about people being careful if you do not think you can adapt to cold water stay out.
My body adjusts within about two minutes and then I enjoy my swim. You have to be careful not to swim underwater or dive into water where you do not know the depths, you must first check for underwater obstructions.
The quarry I swim in has underwater branches and hazards but with care, it is very safe.
If you are not confident swim with a
buddy or swim with a line attached to a float.
Be cautious before the water temperatures have time to increase and the thermocline gets established in summer.
The place I swim actually got too warm for me in summer, I had to go to a spring-fed oxbow lake for a cooler swim.
Swimming under the influence of drink or drugs is stupid, do not do it!
Take a picnic, but do not expect to eat a massive meal and then be safe in the water.
Most importantly of all, create goodwill with landowners by taking all your litter home with you in a bag, no exceptions.
Lake superior is absolutely freezing and everybody swims there.
When the water is that ripply there is also a current. I once swam by myself in a lake and didn't pay attention and was carried down towards the dam and had to swim against the current back to shore. I was so fatigued when I got out of that water, I knew if I had been in the water any longer I would have drowned. So I don't swim by myself anymore.
that would be absolutely terrifying glad you're ok
When he said there's a 100 ft drop off of the shallow edge and you wouldn't be able to pull yourself back up I fucken got chills in my body. So scary
@Texan American You can't see the edge of the cliff, so you're wading through shallow water before suddenly being dunked into freezing cold water. The video explains what cold water causes; cramps, sharp gasp of breath, panic
@@Jamie-tx7pn This is all bull shit, if you know how to swim you aren't gonna just sink straight down into the 100ft quarry... Unless your dumbass tied a cinder block to your leg, damn imbeciles. The worst thing I could think of would be the water toxicity from the mining.
We had a gravel pit within 10 miles of where I grew up. We were there a bunch. We heard of underwater currents, large fish and a bunch of other excuses not to go there to swim. I do remember one guy that drowned there. I didn't know him as he was older. 30 something I think. He tied a heavy thing to himself and carried it off a ledge everyone knew of. 30 feet on the bottom is where they found him. My babysitter would not let us go there the next day and we missed the recovery. She knew him and cried all morning about how the under current must have got him.
I'm talking 1983 ish.
Sounds like the heavy thing caused it
I've no clue about diving into quarries but I feel since there's no movement of water like in rivers, waterfalls, oceans, there shouldn't be much current.
Same deal back in OK in the 80's - supposedly there were frequent underwater rock collapses that caused giant suction holes... we all swam there anyway. Seems any person who drowned there either wanted to or was so drunk/stoned it just happened...
@@danlightened it would depend on the quarry and how the water had gotten there. There are some quarry’s that are feed from underground springs or rivers which could cause currents. Just beverages a body of water looks still from above doesn’t mean it’s still below.
@@mattscudder1975 That would make sense.
Cold water?... nothing unusual, Deep water?... not uncommon, Branches and debris near waters edge?... every swimming hole has them. Unsupervised and unattended 15 year old's? Now that's the problem.
Exactly, but you left out "Untaught"
Teaching starts at home.
Extremely cold water that can be near freezing is not what I'd call "usual" swimming conditions.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. that depends on where you live
if the water temp goes from 88 degrees to 45 degrees it’s such @ change it really F’s u up
why not blow out the sides and make a safe swimming area. seems to me the government is just cheap and careless. Here in canada many quarries get one side "dropped" in so that there is a nice swimming area.
No in the UK they let the Quarry companies rob the ground of the mineral wealth, dump their metal work and old steel rollers and cables in the water.
Then they create YET ANOTHER PAY TO FISH LAKE FOR ANGLERS.
Then we cliff jump off of them. Elora Quarry is a popular one they cracked down on.
Quarries are toxic you know has nothing to do with money.
Because arresting people trying to get in and telling them not to is much cheaper
It seems to me that there needs to be better regulation of how these quarries can be left before digging stops for good. Are there not patterns of excavation that prevent leaving dangerous outcroppings or submerged equipment behind?
The answer to that question is responsible zoning regulations, nominal excavation procedures, and responsible civic/industrial cooperatives such as the Mining Collective and the Seafood Cooperative of the Nagasaki Prefecture.
Betsy Collins we don't need laws just smarter people..these kids are idiots and would do it laws or not..they are responsible for their own choices no one else
We have a problem with people swimming in the lakes and quarries near our house. Despite the signs and the fact someone sadly drowned in the lake last year it does not seem to get through to people on how dangerous it is. This doesn’t even account for what kinds of illnesses can be caught from the blue/ green algae. I think people really believe they are super human and it won’t happen to them.
Exactly!! People just don't get it!!! Stay away from these quarry. Go swim elsewhere!!
I have no sympathy for people who ignore warning signs. Quarry lakes are DANGEROUS!!! There are wild swimming places that are safe.
@@gordanazakula5669 Absolutely! It makes no sense to go swimming in these dangerous Quarry!
@@jharvey73883 I have heard of a woman who lost her son, due to him swimming in a quarry lake. Had the stupid boy ignored signs, I HAVE NO SYMPATHY!!! l would never ignore a danger sign. However, people have drowned in "safe" wild swimming areas. Maybe, it is best just to swim in shallow water!!! Please reply to me.
@@gordanazakula5669 I totally agree with you! I am sorry she lost her son but when you ignore the danger signs you suffer the consequences!! and he lost his life. People just need to be more careful and take responsibility for their own safety!!!
Ada Haden Lake in Ames, Iowa was once a quarry and has since been converted into a nature park with prairies, wetlands, bike trails, and the lake itself, which people bank fish, kayak on etc. But motorized boats and swimming are against the law there. And the water there is at it's deepest around 40 feet I think. Interestingly, the lake also serves as a backup water source for the city
Quarries are spring fed. Extremely cold beneath the surface. Diving down is where people get in trouble
I dive these quarrys and can tell you even in summer the water can be very cold and some quarrys in the uk are 80 to 100 meters deep once you start sinking you will be dead way before you hit the bottom
Shit that's scary
As an avid cliff jumper, this video was really well made. Most news videos out there just bring some annoying Karen news reporter onto the scene who always chalks it up to the same stereotype, and have a lot of misinformation. They say it's dangerous and stupid blaw, blaw, blaw, but they never accurately explain why it's dangerous.
I've been swimming there and it was great but it is true about the ledges not so much the cold water though (if you go on a hot day). there is about 1.5m of sloped rock to stand on and then a sheer drop.
We have the same issues here in the US. Why do we allow companies that made a huge profit to just up and leave these places unguarded? It's ridiculous
Get that logic up out of my country. 🦅 They need to clean them up and leave them safe, and get out of there when their permit expires so people can enjoy the land again. If they do a bad job they'll get sued. What weird nonsense are you espousing? You want guards stationed all across the wilderness? You want cameras in the middle of nowhere? Please elaborate/clarify.
Learn to read the signs...
Do they have any quarries in the UK that have been turned into safe legal swim clubs, that are staffed by life guards?
Great work guys! Much appreciated.
LOL
I've been swimming in places like this all my life. Don't be stupid and you'll be fine.
Still alive!?
@@Jay-xb5du yup. I have an abandoned quarry on my property, 50 ft from my house.
Tale is you can dive in at flat rock at the Ketona rock quarry in Birmingham Alabama. And come up at the other end of the quarry without ever surfacing due to currents. I have seen a umbrella post shoot out at around 10+ feet due to currents at flat rock in 83'...
It’s about as dangerous as going to the beach. Are we gonna push to put an end to that as well?
No, the quarries are filled with groundwater (it's also why they never flood), and groundwater is considerably colder than surface water, which was the point of this video. These aren't like normal lakes and rivers.
@@darkspeed62true but ocean water can get insanely cold too, even in summer. Swimming in cold water isn't the problem, it's people not knowing how to swim thinking they're invincible that are the problem. I was taught to swim and to respect the water at a very young age and to always know my limits if I go swimming, and I've swam in super cold ocean water since I was 8 just for recreation. People just need to use common sense tbh
I worked at Whataburger with a young man who was just 18 who died in one of these swimming with his friends something got wrapped around his foot his friends weren't able to make it to him in time
Stagnant water surrounded by natural stone will stay cold basically year round. Probably colder than the ocean on the same days. Plus there's more gravitational pull in quarries because of the vacuum of dead space
Yes, a good bit of Coke plants usually from the same owners did have pipes running into the old abandoned quarry's. It's the 50-60° water temperatures and currents in the water as well as rock shelves ranging from 10- 150ft.
isn't the water in lakes and he sea also cold ?
I remeber some highschool dudes going in to a qyarey like a normal pond .
Upto 12 feet 4 feet water then suddenly 50 feet drop 1 of them didn't knew swimming well and drowned
This happened in my area 8 years ago w a thirteen year old boy in the Uk and there are still two access routes to get past the high fence
The trick is to stay horizontal and lay on your back, keep your feet out of the deep because the water is colder there and your legs could cramp. And just use common sense so don't swim too far out, remember that you also have to swim back to the shore.
I DON'T GET IT BECAUSE ITS "SO DEEP ITS TO COLD TO STAY A FLOAT" ? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SINCE. YOU EVER SWIM OUT AT SEA ?
Timothy Reyna when you are at sea the salt in the water helps you to float, that's why its easier to float at sea than in lake water. you have to put a lot more effort in to stay above the water and the cold makes your muscles stiff and harder to use.
People are sheep. No don't enjoy life responsibly but if you do we'll past some randomly ignorant law to make you a criminal. We've become a species of "window lickers" Survival of the fittest indeed.
@@christophershort8745 you’re delusional mate
Who the fuck wants to swim in the UK with a total of one week of decent temperatures, of course its bloody cold it is not given a chance to warm up. Yeah pop off to your local swimming baths and miss the whole point and excitement of swimming in the wild, listen to the Health and Safety patrol..
Its not illegal to have a dip in these old Quarry lakes like it isnt illegal to have a dip in the sea but enter at your own risk has always been the case. Top tips are - Always wear atleast a 5mm - 7mm wetsuit, surfing wetsuit, boots and surf cap and gloves and always wear a buoyancy aid vest if you intend to enter the water even if you believe your a strong swimmer.
Yup good advice if you can't use your head out there don't try it....
How do you people tolerate the cold water please tell me
Just start taking cold showers. I went to a lil creek and I was about the only one who wasnt complaining about how cold the water was when we were hopping in.
I just cliff jump with a tube ready for me to hop on too w friends
Recorded horizontally😀👍
Can someone explain why it's so dangerous is it because people can't swim or is it because of some fish
Quarries are extremely deep
Roman Kozlovskiy theres many dangers. it can be cold water shock that causes you to breath more often and increase heart rate. its is of course deep so when the cold water gets to you you sink right down. and plants can get tangled between your feet causing you to get stuck.
Roman Kozlovskiy water temperatures can be freezing even in summer rock faces are dangerous there are a lot of things in a quarry like old equipment that was used to dig before it was flooded very deep in some spots and very low in other...very dangerous height being jumped from..google quarry deaths and injuries...
Extremely deep. Extremely cold. Very sharp and very rusty machinery that's probably submerged in the water, toxins in the water, and a laundry-list of other things. Please don't swim in a quarry.
Is it just me or even though these risks are here I'd still go swimming there. Like there's no in depth information, that covers information on how it truly affects the body or why these people suddenly just stop swimming and disappear. Telling people there are big objects doesn't keep them away neither does that its deep or cold?
Maybe there should be a law where they must fill them back in !
Well, that would create another large hole haha...
I bet this is what happened to lady from Glee.
Maybe, teaching a child to swim and swim well enough to be able to know where thier limits lie. Also spending the time at bodies of water as these insuring they learn to respect all water. We have the same nonsense in Iowa and it's not the fault of the water. I was 3ft. from a friend when he went under. It never occurred to any of the people who knew he couldn't swim to say so, until he lost his air, I still blame myself. But in the end he was never shown respect for water and it cost him.
I'm so sorry Kieth. I wish it had been me instead of you.
Doesn't sound like it's your fault. If people let a child who didn't know how to swim into water that is their responsibility and excuse my disrespect but your friends as well
RIP Keith - but you really wish it had been you instead?
Is it dangerous if you just Swim with a life vest???
Maikal Sato no. a life vest is recommended if your heading out to waters like that.
Maikal Sato yes if you jump from a high height or hit something dangerous in the water
Yes. *Very.*
Nope go ahead
it's dangerous. A life vest won't save you from toxic water, parasites, and hidden traps.
This is why I don’t trust Querries
but why is it so dangerous?
I so sry
At the time they paddel 100 meters on the lake, the guy who screamed help is dead. What is that shit.
When Mother Nature wants people to stop killing animals.
Animals? Lol
Continue...
The real reason they don't want you swimming in the quarry is chemical dumping. The quarry is a convenient place for the mining company to illegally dump their toxic waste. Swimming is dangerous no matter where you swim. They don't want you swimming at the quarry because they don't to be held liable in case you get injured and they don't want to admit they jump their toxic waste in there.
Who is they? And what was the the quarry used for?
if ur drowning......Then why dont you just swim?
You shouldn be in tge water if you cant swim
No quarries. I got this.
it's why you wear a weatsuit.
They should fill these in with rocks or something
So there’s no real problem with quarries compared to any other body of cold, nature speckled water
Really? You're scare mongering about swimming in quarries or strip mines? People swim in the ocean which has sharks, humboldt squid, salt water crocodiles, orcas, strong currents, hurricanes, and tsunamis. The water is cold? I have swam in a spring fed stream. It's no big deal. Heat can cause muscle cramps too.
no need to get worked up. swim wherever you want, nobody really gives a shit.
Gammareign yes but beaches are lifeguarded. quarries arnt.
Not all beaches are lifeguarded.
Yes, quarries kill more than storms on the ocean or tsunamis.
Gammareign Humboldt Squids are way down deep and Orcas don't attack humans, look it up... kiddo.
My father told me about when he was a kid and a local quarry, they would find large rocks and swim out into the quarry and allow the stones to drag them down deep into the water to see how far down they could go. No one ever got hurt or drowned. When I was a kid we used to jump off a sheer cliff into this natural "well" to prove our bravery to each other. The "well" was about 15 feet in diameter and 40 feet deep to the water's surface. The water was about 15 feet deep. None of us ever got hurt except for one kid who was drunk.
The thing about governments is that they have to have something to do or else they worry about being useless, so they tend to make more and more laws and find new things to make people worry about in order to maintain their relevance. Safety commissions are the most likely to do this.
The quarry is a convenient place for the mining company to illegally dump their toxic waste. Often the water in a quarry looks very clear. Its clear because nothing will grow in it. That's the part of the story they are not telling. If they are actively dumping at the quarry, they certainly don't want you to see it. Other than that they don't want to be held liable if you were to get injured. As far as the swimming itself is concerned there is nothing particularly hazardous about the quarry.
Your right about that.
ArtemiaSalina most quarries are far deeper than that and have rusted machinery at the bottom, causing water toxicity, not to mention water moccasins and eels
@EndofMusic A sudden change to really cold could cause a swimmer to gasp and inhale water. So no, that's not total bullshit. However its more likely that the water contains toxic chemicals commonly used at mining operations. Other industries may also have been dumping there as well. So yeah, the owners don't want kids swimming there. Old quarries contain hidden secrets.
Put some lifeguards on duty.
The amount of reports that come out of the USA saying swimming in a quarry is dangerous you will die!Not explaining bloody why! Britain: yea the water is cold mate, straight to the point.
somebody made a huge proift digging this deathtrap! Why are these people not forced to restore this quarry into a safe condition?
Maybe because they’re dead?
😂😂😂 this is the one I was in today haha it just depends what position you jump into , don't advise going into the middle though
Why it's the best part hahaha
@@user-nq9pq6cd5w what
wot m8??
Stay healthy and learn how to swim
Whilst I agree, I don’t think that’s the message here. Even if you are a strong swimmer these places will quickly reduce your abilities to swim at all.
Still the people don't want to listen
in my opinion, if a quarry is being abandoned it should be by law that the company that dug it, has to put up fences, or some other way to stop people from going in. if not that at least warning signs.
Honestly, yes. They *should* do that. And they have been doing that, in some areas. But sometimes the water is either, too toxic, or too deep for them to even get near it, and safely place fencing around it.
sorry, i totally agree with u dude, i accidentally disliked your comment after my hand slipped
Oh yes let’s build a fence to keep people out. That really worked well with Mexicans.
Over 50% of illegal Mexicans get here by plane. Fence or wall does nothing.
No people should take responsibility for their own safety. Otherwise, you would have to fence off all cliff tops and the Sea. Most drown because they swim without due care and attention, or swim under the influence of drink or drugs.
The Quarry near me is a great place to swim, the water is clean and very clear, it gets too warm at times.
But often my time is spent clearing up old beer cans and bottles usually shit Lager beers I would not even put down my toilet.
So the same people who have so little respect for their bodies they drink shitty poor quality chemical filled Lager to excess, are the same idiots who swim after drinking.
If they die it's their own fault, not the quarry companies or the government.
The same idiots will also drown in the sea or die when they drive their cars pissed up.
We could do with a few less piss heads, the more that die off the better, no sympathy at all for them.
Start making the companies that own these fence off,drain or fill them in,enough with the free ride.
You idiot.
this is a tipical fire service scare mongering video, specifically designed to put people off of what to me, is about the greatest passtime in the world, open water swimming. the fire service has always been very anti open water swimming, and can't seem to get how enjoyable it is compared to boring indoor pool swimming. some of us don't want to be 100% safe all the time, so back off and stop nannying us!
also, there is plenty of info from places like wildswimming.com, and the outdoor swimming society, that gives advice about cold water, getting tangled, and such, to let people decide for ourselves, rather than being dictated to by these fire service killjoys.
Why are people so stupid? Do not ignore the signs!!!
all these videos, claiming quarry's are a dangerous place to swim, cant tell us why, other than the typical hazards you look out for as a swimmer. I would like a 'real' reason aka-undertows.. nope, whirlpools.. nope, sharks or gators...hope not.
If you used ur head a bit you’d know.
It's cause they dump chemicals in them but they won't admit that so they just say it's cold and deep and dangerous and leave it at that.
Because of the steep cliffs. You can't see the edge of the cliffs underwater, so imagine wading through shallow water before suddenly being dunked into freezing cold water hundreds of feet deep
these wild swimming sites don't help
Fear Propaganda.
Stop being coward
Um what
@@Anonymous-gn5tq I’m what