actually that William Marston quote was about men, he said if men can submit to a loving authority like women are expected to the world would be in a better place.
Doctor Gradamit Ah, I thought that sounded fishy. Marston is like the last person I'd imagine as being un-feminist, so it seems a bit slanderous to spin that point that way.
Actually dr. Marston said Wonder Woman’ was conceived by Dr. Marston to set up a standard among children and young people of strong, free, courageous womanhood; and to combat the idea that women are inferior to men, and to inspire girls to self-confidence and achievement in athletics, occupations and professions monopolized by men.”
A small fact you probably did not know is that in the early 1980s a Japanese animated film called Project A-ko had a high school girl that had vast Superhuman strength and speed and also had bracelets. These bracelets reduced her powers. At the end of the film you see her parents are Wonder Woman and Superman. I wonder if the DC New 52 writers were fans of Anime?
Themiskyra is actually in northern Turkey. Not an island, on a coastal region known as the Pontus. Bonus thing you didn't know (Briefly nodded to in the movie. The factory he flees is in Turkey, which makes the overnight trip to London even more magical, when you realize it was from the Black Sea, or at the closest, Bosphorus. Clear across Europe from the island of Britain.)
#5: This sort of came up before the New 52 - in some stories it's implied that Wonder Woman goes berserk if she takes off her bracelets and very rarely she'd take them off to fight without restraint if she thought the situation needed it (although she'd then need someone else's help to get them back on and become sane again).
You should look at the film "brassed off". It's a British film made in 1996 about the closure of coal mines. It has one of the best ending sequences i have seen in a while, including the end credits. It really keeps the end theme alive while portraying a powerful message. It would be important to research the backstory, without context it is relatively meaningless. Although it's highly specific nature it is even a good film today.
Cinefix (probably) didn't know that Linda Harrison played the REFLECTION of Wonder Woman in the pilot while ACTUAL Wonder Woman was played by Ellie Wood Walker. Cinefix also (probably) didn't know that television worked differently back in the 1970s and three seasons was actually quite good going for the version that starred Lynda Carter. The video appears to be attempting to portray a false narrative where this series was a flop (possibly to big up the new big screen version by smalling down the old small screen version - never a good tactic) . Not so. Not only did it achieve three seasons, it was also sold to other countries around the world, and ran in syndication for years after its original run. In an age before VCRs, reruns were how people saw television programmes they missed first time round, and the only way they could see a programme they enjoyed for a second time. It should be remembered that Star Trek (the original series) also ran for three seasons, as did the 'Batman' TV show with Adam West and Burt Ward. Does anyone ever imply that those shows somehow failed? Of course not. The reason the versions starring Ellie Wood Walker, Cathy Lee Crosby, and Adrianne Palicki didn't make it to series was because they strayed too far from the source material. The first one mocked the character, the second one changed the entire appearance of the character, right down to her hair colour, and the third one largely kept her appearance but threw away most of her back story in favour of something the showrunners thought was better (they were wrong, of course). Back in 2009 Warner Brothers produced a straight to DVD animated film, which though largely faithful to the source material, and well executed had one scene that left a bad taste in the mouths of some viewers, where Diana and Steve walk into enemy territory and calmly twist the necks of enemy soldiers they encounter, killing them, all while carrying on a light hearted conversation, like they were a couple of serial killers from a Quentin Tarantino film. I hope such a scene will not be included in the new cinema film.
You guys should do some actual research on Marston and not just go based on what is on Wikipedia. Marston believed women should be in charge and the world would become a better place. Because it doesn't make sense if he believed women should be submissive, then create such a feminist badass icon. You guys failed this one.
But lets be real, women ruling the world would be horrible because women in general use their feelings to rule. Plus the US dodged a HUGE bullet when Trump defeated Hillary because she was going to be an Obama 2.0.
I "love" how they just downplay the iconic TV series because it was canceled. That show wasn't canceled because of ratings, but rather because of the Superhero purge initiated by then CBS president, Harvey Shepard. As he didn't want the network to labeled as the "Superhero Channel".
Please do a studio Ghibli movie next!! Anyone of them.. Ideally Howle's Moving castle? For instance Howle is actaully from Wales and his teacher and the kings magician are actually 2 different people in the book... but definitely need a homage to Ghibli.. that studio deserves it xx
You missed one, After the 2011 TV show with Palecki, we were going to get one within the Arrowverse called Amazon before they decided to go with the Flash. Amy Manson was in the runnings, she may have been who we would've had.
It's not really debated if Superman is weaker than Wonder Woman by fans because it's pretty hard to dispute. Superman's main weaknesses include a sensitivity toward magic. Wonder Woman's powers come from her godhood and are considered magical in nature. So over half the shit she can do he has no resistance toward.
I REALLY 100% recommend you guys watch All About Lily Chou-Chou, it won two awards at the Berlin Festival and the Shanghai festival and it's directed and written by Shunji Iwai (though it has nothing to do with Wonder Woman)
On all the commentaries I've read and seen about the backdrop of this movie, no one yet has mentioned writer/artist George Perez who did the comic reboot in the 80s, redubbed Paradise Island Themyscira, and is basically as responsible for the Diana Prince that we know today as Charles Moulton Marston was. Another unmentioned fact is that the original, mythological Amazons only had one breast each. They cut off the other so it wouldn't get in their way when they shot arrows. Which suggests they must have been uniformly endowed with large hooters to have been a problem with their archery. I suppose that a cadre of single-mastectomied Amazons was considered too unappealing for the modern audience.
And not only cutting same off, but for safety afterword they had to cauterize the area the not small area to prevent infection of the wound (you really could not go to Walgreens to kill all the germs).
Varinder Bhandal you could say that about anyone, Black Widow is female Gamora is female Nebula is female Jane is female Gwen is female Pepper is female Storm is female Rouge is female Jane (X-Men) is female It doesn't make any of them Iron-Man Also I apologise if I spelled any names wrong
PandaGirl56 Hey, Panda Girl! Jane is a female ... name. There's a lot of Janes. You ever hear of a "Plain Jane?" I presume you mean Jane Foster. Gwen is a name. I presume you mean Gwen Stacey. Pepper is a condiment. It goes well on steak. Do you mean Pepper Pots? And Rouge is a makeup color. I presume you mean Rogue.
I'M SO GLAD THEY MENTIONED THE POLYAMOROUS RELATIONSHIP WW'S CREATOR HAD! Because Wonder Woman was inspired by two, incredibly awesome, bisexual women. Fuck yeah.
I really hope you guys bring back the homemade how to series.when I was new to your I loved that series btw I love your channel keep up the good work you guys are amazing
I'd heard they're going to make a biopic on William Moulton Marsten and the story of WW's creation. I was on-board the second I heard, I'm just DYING to see how they pull this off on the big screen!
These videos would be so much better if they didn't do the "bonus thing"/"boom, segue" bit. Really enjoy it other than that though! Thanks for creating.
Just saw it tonight, have to say it may have knocked Iron Man off my #1 spot for a stand alone Superhero movie! This movie was awesome throughout, great action and just enough comedy to remind you this is suppose to be a fun movie to watch! Kudos I didn't think DC could make another great movie since the last Batman Trilogy!
Back in the 90's when the comic book industry was in the toilet?? The 90's was the height of the comic book craze. X-Men number 1 from 1991 sold 8.1 million copies alone.
He just said the 90's lol. Yes the speculator syndrome had everyone buying number one issues thinking they were going to get rich. He should have said late 90's.
The bondage quote when applied to concepts like the empowerment of women sounds like this oppressive thing (and admittedly, targetting it solely at women is likely the reason), but as a general catch all for the fetish of bondage, it is a good point to make about trying out being a sub.
The original Wonder Woman comic book character was owned by M. C. Gaines and published by his All-American Comics, Inc. company from 1941 to 1945... in 1945 he sold her, The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, and others to his partners at DC comics and got $500,000 (free and clear after taxes) to start his EC comics company!! 😉
First of all, the Wonder Woman movie was simply... um... WONDERful. And not just as a superhero movie. Despite not really having Wonder Woman's physical attributes from the comics (and let's be honest, how many women do? Women in comic books must spend a fortune on bras that have to be specially tailored due to the fact that almost all of them are seemingly like 40 DD or bigger), Gal Gadot totally rocked that role. Secondly, bonus thing you didn't know: After Marston's death, neither his wife nor their mistress ever remarried/married. In fact, the two women lived together for the rest of their lives.
In the buildup to the Amalgam Comics, she was also worthy to possess Mjolnir, but turned it down against a battle with Storm because she thought it would make the fight unfair (she lost).
Any chance you all would be willing to do a video on Real Genius from 1985 Tristar pictures? It's one of my favorites. Yes I do know Mythbusters tested the popcorn gag (busted).
Hodan So now she has tits? Cause her not having big enough boobs was one of the complaints people had with her casting. So your comment doesn't make sense.
but this is an edited comment, which means i shouldn't trust it, which means i should trust edited comments, which means i shouldn't, which means i should, which means i shouldn't. I can't decide if i love or hate paradoxes
Wonder Woman losing control and unleashing her full strength was done in one of her original run in the 40's [don't remember which one, just read the reprinted one ].
I knew all of these even the amalgam one EXCEPT I didn't know she was less powerful wearing the bracelets! been a dc fan my whole life and I never came across that one
George Miller's Justice League would've been FAR BEYOND what these current Marvel and DC corporate cashcows could ever dream of mustering. Such a tragically missed opportunity.
actually that William Marston quote was about men, he said if men can submit to a loving authority like women are expected to the world would be in a better place.
Doctor Gradamit Ah, I thought that sounded fishy. Marston is like the last person I'd imagine as being un-feminist, so it seems a bit slanderous to spin that point that way.
Actually dr. Marston said Wonder Woman’ was conceived by Dr. Marston to set up a standard among children and young people of strong, free, courageous womanhood; and to combat the idea that women are inferior to men, and to inspire girls to self-confidence and achievement in athletics, occupations and professions monopolized by men.”
This year marks the 40th anniversary of Close Encounters and 35th of ET. Do you think you can do one of those?
A small fact you probably did not know is that in the early 1980s a Japanese animated film called Project A-ko had a high school girl that had vast Superhuman strength and speed and also had bracelets. These bracelets reduced her powers. At the end of the film you see her parents are Wonder Woman and Superman. I wonder if the DC New 52 writers were fans of Anime?
Themiskyra is actually in northern Turkey. Not an island, on a coastal region known as the Pontus. Bonus thing you didn't know (Briefly nodded to in the movie. The factory he flees is in Turkey, which makes the overnight trip to London even more magical, when you realize it was from the Black Sea, or at the closest, Bosphorus. Clear across Europe from the island of Britain.)
So all the bondage porn of WW is cannon? Awesome.
It's canon, not cannon. You aren't shooting pirates.
Tedious Totoro the hell I'm not!
Hot cannons
no, it got changed decades ago.
Modern Wonder Woman (read: canon) started in late 1980s under the writer/artist extraordinaire George Perez.
Suprema ended up being a character from Alan Moore´s Supreme comic. It is also the name of a chicken breast meal here in Argentina (boom. bonus)
damn it, cinefix, it's Gadot, not gado, the t isn't silent, it's a Hebrew last name, not french :(
Gado gado is street food in my country lol
Gadote, if you want to help English speakers pronounce it right. If Gadot, they're going to say "Dot", but it's more like "Dote".
Implying Cinefix is run by people with brains, eh?
toontoosh With a hard T sound.. heard her say that on Late Night
UGH ikr it kills me when people say it wrong
Am I the only one in love with the Wonder Woman crown at 2:10? Cause it's gorgeous!!!
Of course we want a more of her. I would love to see more of the lore around her.
#5: This sort of came up before the New 52 - in some stories it's implied that Wonder Woman goes berserk if she takes off her bracelets and very rarely she'd take them off to fight without restraint if she thought the situation needed it (although she'd then need someone else's help to get them back on and become sane again).
They didn't mention that Themiscyra was originally called Paradise Island in the Golden Age.
It's still called that to this day, just not all the time. It was even called that in the movie once.
You should look at the film "brassed off". It's a British film made in 1996 about the closure of coal mines. It has one of the best ending sequences i have seen in a while, including the end credits. It really keeps the end theme alive while portraying a powerful message. It would be important to research the backstory, without context it is relatively meaningless. Although it's highly specific nature it is even a good film today.
Cinefix (probably) didn't know that Linda Harrison played the REFLECTION of Wonder Woman in the pilot while ACTUAL Wonder Woman was played by Ellie Wood Walker.
Cinefix also (probably) didn't know that television worked differently back in the 1970s and three seasons was actually quite good going for the version that starred Lynda Carter. The video appears to be attempting to portray a false narrative where this series was a flop (possibly to big up the new big screen version by smalling down the old small screen version - never a good tactic) . Not so. Not only did it achieve three seasons, it was also sold to other countries around the world, and ran in syndication for years after its original run. In an age before VCRs, reruns were how people saw television programmes they missed first time round, and the only way they could see a programme they enjoyed for a second time. It should be remembered that Star Trek (the original series) also ran for three seasons, as did the 'Batman' TV show with Adam West and Burt Ward. Does anyone ever imply that those shows somehow failed? Of course not.
The reason the versions starring Ellie Wood Walker, Cathy Lee Crosby, and Adrianne Palicki didn't make it to series was because they strayed too far from the source material. The first one mocked the character, the second one changed the entire appearance of the character, right down to her hair colour, and the third one largely kept her appearance but threw away most of her back story in favour of something the showrunners thought was better (they were wrong, of course).
Back in 2009 Warner Brothers produced a straight to DVD animated film, which though largely faithful to the source material, and well executed had one scene that left a bad taste in the mouths of some viewers, where Diana and Steve walk into enemy territory and calmly twist the necks of enemy soldiers they encounter, killing them, all while carrying on a light hearted conversation, like they were a couple of serial killers from a Quentin Tarantino film. I hope such a scene will not be included in the new cinema film.
You guys should do some actual research on Marston and not just go based on what is on Wikipedia. Marston believed women should be in charge and the world would become a better place. Because it doesn't make sense if he believed women should be submissive, then create such a feminist badass icon. You guys failed this one.
Completely agree.
Girl, yes🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
But lets be real, women ruling the world would be horrible because women in general use their feelings to rule. Plus the US dodged a HUGE bullet when Trump defeated Hillary because she was going to be an Obama 2.0.
Sadman: Is she with you?
Batfleck: I thought she was with you.
You send the f***ing email batfleck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I "love" how they just downplay the iconic TV series because it was canceled. That show wasn't canceled because of ratings, but rather because of the Superhero purge initiated by then CBS president, Harvey Shepard. As he didn't want the network to labeled as the "Superhero Channel".
also 3 years is still awhile
Gal Godot as Wonder Woman? Fantastic. An excellent choice; I loved her performance. Cobie Smulders as Wonder Woman? Oh yeah ... I'd watch that.
Please do a studio Ghibli movie next!! Anyone of them.. Ideally Howle's Moving castle? For instance Howle is actaully from Wales and his teacher and the kings magician are actually 2 different people in the book... but definitely need a homage to Ghibli.. that studio deserves it xx
You missed one, After the 2011 TV show with Palecki, we were going to get one within the Arrowverse called Amazon before they decided to go with the Flash. Amy Manson was in the runnings, she may have been who we would've had.
I love how the bandage thing was reversed in the movie, because it was her sidekick Steve Trevor who was tied up by her lasso.
real talk though, Wonder Woman kicks ass. Of all the OP characters in DC (which are, around 60% of them probably) she's the most forgotten
It's not really debated if Superman is weaker than Wonder Woman by fans because it's pretty hard to dispute. Superman's main weaknesses include a sensitivity toward magic. Wonder Woman's powers come from her godhood and are considered magical in nature. So over half the shit she can do he has no resistance toward.
Mannn Linda Carter was smoking.
Yes indeed. Still is😍😍😍😍
Part two? Yes pls
Hey fam can you do 11 things bout Ocean's Eleven?
Nothing refreshes my night like a cinefix video!
please do a part 2 with more 70s Lynda Carter shots, wow! so beautiful!
I REALLY 100% recommend you guys watch All About Lily Chou-Chou, it won two awards at the Berlin Festival and the Shanghai festival and it's directed and written by Shunji Iwai
(though it has nothing to do with Wonder Woman)
I would like to see more things about Wonder Woman.
On all the commentaries I've read and seen about the backdrop of this movie, no one yet has mentioned writer/artist George Perez who did the comic reboot in the 80s, redubbed Paradise Island Themyscira, and is basically as responsible for the Diana Prince that we know today as Charles Moulton Marston was.
Another unmentioned fact is that the original, mythological Amazons only had one breast each. They cut off the other so it wouldn't get in their way when they shot arrows. Which suggests they must have been uniformly endowed with large hooters to have been a problem with their archery. I suppose that a cadre of single-mastectomied Amazons was considered too unappealing for the modern audience.
And not only cutting same off, but for safety afterword they had to cauterize the area the not small area to prevent infection of the wound (you really could not go to Walgreens to kill all the germs).
How do y'all chose the music for the background?
Wonder Woman is Female
-Fe is Iron
-Male means Man
Wonder Woman is IronMan confirmed.
Easily the most unoriginal comment in this comment section....
Varinder Bhandal you could say that about anyone,
Black Widow is female
Gamora is female
Nebula is female
Jane is female
Gwen is female
Pepper is female
Storm is female
Rouge is female
Jane (X-Men) is female
It doesn't make any of them Iron-Man
Also I apologise if I spelled any names wrong
Stay woke
PandaGirl56 Hey, Panda Girl! Jane is a female ... name. There's a lot of Janes. You ever hear of a "Plain Jane?" I presume you mean Jane Foster. Gwen is a name. I presume you mean Gwen Stacey. Pepper is a condiment. It goes well on steak. Do you mean Pepper Pots? And Rouge is a makeup color. I presume you mean Rogue.
Varinder Bhandal i
love the commentary on these videos
Hope WW & JL will be good
going by reviews I've skimmed through it looks like WW might actually be good.
WW yes, JL ehhh not as much
Great episode! Part 2!
I'M SO GLAD THEY MENTIONED THE POLYAMOROUS RELATIONSHIP WW'S CREATOR HAD! Because Wonder Woman was inspired by two, incredibly awesome, bisexual women. Fuck yeah.
I really hope you guys bring back the homemade how to series.when I was new to your I loved that series btw I love your channel keep up the good work you guys are amazing
This was great! I would so love to watch a part 2!!
I'd heard they're going to make a biopic on William Moulton Marsten and the story of WW's creation.
I was on-board the second I heard, I'm just DYING to see how they pull this off on the big screen!
These videos would be so much better if they didn't do the "bonus thing"/"boom, segue" bit.
Really enjoy it other than that though! Thanks for creating.
"These are my tools! I need my tools! I like to bind, I like to be bound!" - Dennis 'The Golden Gold's Reynolds
gal gadot is literally perfect for ww.
Casting Gal Gadot for this role was the decision EVER ! Nobody will be better at this
Agreed,
I think you left a word out
breast
The 't' isn't silent. Hear her say her own name sometime.
Good video thanks guys
I feel you are forgetting all animated versions of Wonder Woman. And this seems to be a very big trend. (Live action is only a small part)
Keep em coming
well done. bring on part 2
Can you do a spider man homecoming video before it comes out pleaseee!!!
Just saw it tonight, have to say it may have knocked Iron Man off my #1 spot for a stand alone Superhero movie! This movie was awesome throughout, great action and just enough comedy to remind you this is suppose to be a fun movie to watch! Kudos I didn't think DC could make another great movie since the last Batman Trilogy!
Do a "things you didn't know" about John Carpenter's The Thing!
the set of the village of Veld in this movie looks really familiar. I'm which other war-time movie was this set also used?
Back in the 90's when the comic book industry was in the toilet?? The 90's was the height of the comic book craze. X-Men number 1 from 1991 sold 8.1 million copies alone.
Purefoldnz He's talking about The Speculator Syndrome that came after the Death of Superman arc,the one that actually almost killed the industry.
He just said the 90's lol. Yes the speculator syndrome had everyone buying number one issues thinking they were going to get rich. He should have said late 90's.
Please let this movie be good.
We need a good comic book movie about about a badass girl.
Part 2, Please!!
Haven't heard the Hot Cans line in a while. Tasty Hoots better be in the next Wonder Woman video!
7 things Inglourious Basterds
The bondage quote when applied to concepts like the empowerment of women sounds like this oppressive thing (and admittedly, targetting it solely at women is likely the reason), but as a general catch all for the fetish of bondage, it is a good point to make about trying out being a sub.
Part 2 please
Bring it on, Part II.....Attempt re-entry.
Could you please do a list for the 1966 Batman TV show?
that Marston quote was towards men, he believed in men giving into loving submission of women
part two please
The original Wonder Woman comic book character was owned by M. C. Gaines and published by his All-American Comics, Inc. company from 1941 to 1945... in 1945 he sold her, The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, and others to his partners at DC comics and got $500,000 (free and clear after taxes) to start his EC comics company!! 😉
lol I always thought segue was spelt segway
First of all, the Wonder Woman movie was simply... um... WONDERful. And not just as a superhero movie. Despite not really having Wonder Woman's physical attributes from the comics (and let's be honest, how many women do? Women in comic books must spend a fortune on bras that have to be specially tailored due to the fact that almost all of them are seemingly like 40 DD or bigger), Gal Gadot totally rocked that role. Secondly, bonus thing you didn't know: After Marston's death, neither his wife nor their mistress ever remarried/married. In fact, the two women lived together for the rest of their lives.
In the buildup to the Amalgam Comics, she was also worthy to possess Mjolnir, but turned it down against a battle with Storm because she thought it would make the fight unfair (she lost).
Amalgam was interesting. There was characters such as Dark Claw, The Iron Lantern, Bruce Wayne: Agent of Shield and I think his name was Super Patriot
Wonder woman the one dc character that can make Batman cry like a little girl Just saying.
This Wonder Woman is a total Babe-a-Rama!!
Three Thumbs Up......Way UP! :)
More please :)
Woohoo! I love Wonder Woman!
Please tell me more about the two comic book character actresses born on my birthday (Gal Gadot and Kirsten Dunst)
Any chance you all would be willing to do a video on Real Genius from 1985 Tristar pictures? It's one of my favorites. Yes I do know Mythbusters tested the popcorn gag (busted).
Kids, Remember when I told you about how your Aunt Robyn was a super hero for a day? Here's what happened.
Part two. Pls and thank you
yep, do a anothee 7 things on wonder woman
you pronounced her last name wrong, Gadot
it's actually pronounced "terrible casting choice"
TheSweetestCurse It's actually pronounced "most critics praising her performance".
Hodan So now she has tits? Cause her not having big enough boobs was one of the complaints people had with her casting. So your comment doesn't make sense.
Wisdaredevil Gamez gado
Nighthawk , Gadot herself says “Guh-Dot”. Not dough, doe, or even doh!
I'm so surprised. This is the first time EVER that I actually knew every single one of these things on an episode of Things You Didn't Know! Dang.
Either you like your comics... or you like yer bondage.
...lol. Let's say I like the comics...
Never trust edited coments
yes
Stephen_0710 what are you talking about?
Stephen_0710 Liar
Never trust copy pasted comment like yours
but this is an edited comment, which means i shouldn't trust it, which means i should trust edited comments, which means i shouldn't, which means i should, which means i shouldn't.
I can't decide if i love or hate paradoxes
I only knew #7 that crossover Comic had some really bizarre mash ups in it.
Do a second vid on this
Wonder Woman losing control and unleashing her full strength was done in one of her original run in the 40's [don't remember which one, just read the reprinted one ].
So... How about a "Things you didn't know" about Cinefix ? Ay ?
That is why they said "probably" because most of these facts and things that i have acknowledge for years now
November 1 marks the 20th anniversary of titanic. The most expensive movie at its time is bound to have some good things
A kyptonian being beaten by Wonder Woman makes sense because her powers are basically magic bestowed by the gods.
PART 2 DO ALL OF DEH PARTS
Christina Hendricks as Wonder Woman? Dear god 😍😂
Please, let's never discuss Superman's meat whistle again!!! Lol
I knew all of these even the amalgam one EXCEPT I didn't know she was less powerful wearing the bracelets! been a dc fan my whole life and I never came across that one
But why did all these attempts flop? Why did it seem oh so difficult to write Wonder Woman for the small or big screen?
I've gotta be honest i wanna go to the alternate universe where Robin Sherbotsky is Wonder Woman
part 2 can be indeed inspiring
a mix between storm and wonder women is the hottest thing ive heard today
stepping away a bit from movies I see, I like it
Actually in the early comics, she traded places with a look alike named Diana Prince.
Why do so many people think the T in Gadot is silent and pretty much non-existent and go Gado? pls... bloody foreigners... :P
Do a Baywatch next
George Miller's Justice League would've been FAR BEYOND what these current Marvel and DC corporate cashcows could ever dream of mustering. Such a tragically missed opportunity.