Off topic, during the filming of this video I grew fond of that Nikon Z DX 18-140mm. It’s a brilliant light weight walk around / travel lens for the Z50II. So glad I got it as a kit / combo lens when I bought the Z50II. I’ll have a full review of this lens soon on my TH-cam channel 🙏📸
I have the Nikon 18-140mm DX VR lens on my D5600 and love it. In fact it’s my base lens that I keep on my camera until I’m in a situation that calls for my wide angle or super tele. I’m not surprised the Z series lens is also a good one.
I always recommend that lens for Nikon's APSC line. It is way better than the old F mount superzooms and has good contrast, rare for the old superzooms. As an aside, I am starting to appreciate how the 85 1.4 + FTZ renders on that sensor.
The lack of VR doesn't bother me but I don't use the camera for video much except on a tripod. But, for many people, this video will be very valuable. Thanks, Adrian!
Thanks for watching Phil. It's funny, just today while I was doing a lens review, I was taking a photo of a waterfall handheld with the Z50II. I didn't have a tripod. I wanted to slow the shutter speed to get motion blur in the water, but kept getting the whole shot blurred. Just an example of where VR in stills would have helped me. I would have been able to do the shot with my Z7 which does have internal VR. Have a great weekend
Thank you for yet another video on z50 ii. I wish you had talk about the rolling shutter as well (for both stills and videos) in this video. So the both topics has covered in single video. I could see the rolling shutter with 24-120. I hope you will do that in future for better clarity. 👍
I am off tomorrow to Antartica and taking my Z8 along with the 28-400 and 24-120. I also have packed the z50.2 along with the 16-50 as a backup only. I really like the camera but I think when I return I may pick up the 18-140 for my travel needs. Wanted to take the big gear on this trip. Good video
I used the Z50 with the Z 24-120mm at lot. Didn't really worry about VR since the lens was a wide to short tele, and I didn't shoot video at all. I just watched my shutter speed. Now with the Z50ii, I'll do the same, and all of my other lenses have VR. The Z50ii is a great little camera!
Hi Adrian, oh yes, ibis is definitely an advantage when it comes down to shoot video. as you said, it doesn't limit you in lens selection. a fantastic comparison. that difference with and without stabilization is crazy. thank you for the video, buddy 👍😉 Enjoy your weekend, Christian
I think the Z50ii tackles a segment of the market at a great price, it can also appeal to someone like me who is shooting a Z6ii for their main camera but occasionally would like improved autofocus for birds or people in street situations. It also leaves Nikon space for a higher model with IBIS and better weather sealing if they so wish, think the mythical D500 replacement.
Electronic VR is available for video only, not stills. The lack of IBIS in the Z50II is very disappointing (especially as the Fuji X-S20 has it!!!) but not a deal breaker, it just means having to use a tripod when I'd rather not have to. The VR lenses work very well but my fave lens is the 24-70/4 which does not. Hopefully in the future Nikon will produce a higher spec APS-C body (let's call it a Z80) having IBIS and a joystick, then I'll probably have my perfect camera.
The 18-140mm is an underrated lens. I bought it as a travel carry around and really like it. I’m glad you can get the Z50 ii without a lens as I didn’t need a second one. 😂. On my Z50 the VR on the 28-400mm works perfectly well. Thanks for the always excellent content
You scared me with your title and opening statement, I went out first thing this morning and bought the Z50ii and 180-600 lens before seeing your video, thank god I’m not worried about VR, at least the 180-600 does have VR.
If it’s as good as it was photographing the sparrows in my garden, the bird eye detection seems extremely good. So crisp so far I’m pleased, I did buy on the grounds of your video a few weeks ago, no pressure on you 🤣
VR is good for video, but rarely needed in photography unless your subject is moitionless. However, lenses with built in VR are useful for both genres. Cheers!
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I find VR valuable in stills photography and is needed. Waterfalls for example where you want to slow your shutter to get motion blur of the water in your shot, but not blur the entire photo. Low light doing interiors like cathedrals or halls or in the city at night. VR then becomes invaluable in stills, especially when not using a fast aperture lens. And fast aperture primes don't have VR on the lenses. Anyway I could go on and on. Thanks for watching 🙏
In general it is not. But for bird photography, for me, it can replace it, because it recognizes and tracks birds and can shoot silently. Even if it is held much worse than the D500, with a third-party grip (I got the Smallrig, even if I still lack half a cm to be really comfortable) and mounting a good telephoto, in my opinion it can replace it! In fact I put the D500 up for sale... 😉
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. I have this camera and have been able to make videos successfully with the Nikon AF-P 70-300 4.5-5.6e ED VR lens with the FTZII adapter. Another limitation of the Z50 ii is that the 18.2.1 version of IOS (and earlier versions) doesn’t support the camera’s raw file format. So for people who use Apple’s Photo app to edit their photos, they will need to shoot in jpeg format or import their images into Lightroom mobile, which does support the camera’s raw file format. Hopefully later versions of IOS will support the camera’s raw file format.
Great heads up vid man. Yeah not havin that internal VR is a turn off. Looks fine if you use VR lenses, but like you said, that then limits your lens choices.
I guess for video shooters maybe the Z5 would be a better option for the same price. However, for still photography ibis is not really needed. Thanks again for another video showing the capabilities of that little camera.
Thanks for watching my friend. I tend to disagree re the VR being not needed in stills, but see your point of view as well. Waterfalls for example where you want to slow your shutter speed to get motion blur of the water in your shot, but not blur the entire photo. Low light doing interiors like cathedrals or halls or in the city at night. VR then becomes invaluable in stills, especially when not using a fast aperture lens. And fast aperture primes don't have VR on the lenses. Have a great weekend 🙏
@@adrianalfordphotography I agree with you, for me, up until a year and a half ago, I did not have IBIS. Of course now I say: "how did we live without it" :). Cheers my friend.
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Great advice Adrian on the Nikon Z50II very helpful. Great examples - many thanks for sharing the info - have a great weekend
Thanks Adrian for all the Z50II videos testing and explaining for all of us. My interest is video and not photo as I already have a good camera for that. Question: Will a Nikon Z FX camera with sensor stabilization AND a les with VR produce more stabile video (handheld) than the Z50II with a VR lens ?
It depends on how good you are at handholding a camera while taking video. I've used the Nikon Z 180-600mm VR lens on both my Z7 (FX) and Z50II (DX). I haven't really noticed any difference when handholding doing video on both cameras.
Lack of IBIS isn't as big a deal as many make it out to be. It's is a very useful tool, no doubt, but it isnt the be all, end all (in my humble opinion).
if youre good photographer you dont need ibis to work,, unless youre videographer,, nowdays ibis is a must for handheld shoot,, but this z50ii its amazing camera for the prices compare to canon and sony in this price area,
Definitely the reason I didn't upgrade to the Z50ii. Bought a prime lens but can only use it handheld in good light for stills and video. So I am stuck with the kit zoom lenses. For my use case travel handheld is 95% of the time so I was very disappointed as they are great camera's. I might as well go back to micro for thirds most of them have IBIS.
Many photographers have no interest in shooting video, for them the effects of VR or IBIS or both on video shooting is irrelevant. What would sell would be a better stills only camera at a lower price point because all the vide capabilities have been stripped out.
I was disappointed about this as well. Being able to use VR even with older F mount lenses that don't have it is great. The Z 70-180/2.8 would go great with this camera but that one doesn't have VR as well. Another thing that is kind of a deal breaker for me? The shutter speed of 1/4000s. Last summer I did go faster with my Z7II a couple of times and it really saved me. One of those things you don't need all the time but it's very nice to have when you do.
🤔 ibis would be nice, but it would also have made the camera substantially more expensive than it is - none of its direct competitors have ibis either at this price…
Cracks me up how so many are losing their minds over no IBIS on this camera. I’ll take this camera with no IBIS and the Expeed 7 at this price point vs IBIS and no Expeed 7. Folks seem to completely ignore the balance of mfg costs, price point targets, and features that have to fit in those constraints.
Yep, all boils down to budget. Can't be expecting a Ferrari for the price of Corolla. As I mentioned, if people that are new to photography want VR, then maybe look into a full frame camera.
@adrianalfordphotography The problem with full frame is that those cameras are, in general, larger and thus less useful for everyday use. OK, the d780 is not a z camera, but I regret having bought that instead of the d7500 that is much smaller, and it seems very good (yes, I still like the old viewfinder). Now I have my camera with me for specific photo trips, not in my bag that I always carry with me for when there is a situation I like. Thus, today's street and holiday photographers will likely like the Z50 II with the standard VR lens as it is compact
@@pleclere I have a D750. For walking about travel shots it’s paired with to 24-120mm f/4 VR. Great OVF I only use live view for awkward angles (with the screen flipped up or down). I don’t consider it too big - it fits nicely in my large hands and has an excellent grip. Too heavy? No not really (it’s lighter than my old D200). I like to use a tripod especially for architecture and landscapes. I enjoy the process and it certainly helps both with precise composition and sharper images. I’m sticking with F-Mount because I can’t justify the cost of switching to Z-Mount just to get a slightly lighter camera and IBIS. I’m also put off by all the advanced video features that don’t interest me. I need a good stills camera with no video (which ought to bring the cost down).
@peterjohnson1739 I had APS-C in the past, thus my d780 is larger and heavier. The pictures I can take are great, although often I need positive compensation or my pictures are a little dark (probably I do something wrong). I bought this camera as I like the optical viewfinder while I'm also happy with its video. A pity that Nikon refuses any upgrade in the video software such as dog face recognition, they could invest some of the money they earn from the camera in improvements. For the rest, I'm fine with an autofocus that is not perfect. It is a hobby that relaxes me.
I've mentioned before (numerous times) in other videos on my channel that you can use a gimbal. But again, a gimbal is extra money, extra gear to carry, extra time to set up etc. Not ideal for someone wanting to grab a snippet of video handheld and move on.
Nikon is not going to put IBIS into this older sensor from the D500/D7500 Era. It is the same sensor from what I understand. They will need to develop a whole new sensor. And even then they may not give their crop sensor bodies IBIS. IMO. Cheers Ron
Back end the day when I used to shoot with D500, or D7100 it didn’t had VR but I still got some amazing pictures on it with long telephoto lenses. So I think it really depends on the technic
Off topic, during the filming of this video I grew fond of that Nikon Z DX 18-140mm. It’s a brilliant light weight walk around / travel lens for the Z50II. So glad I got it as a kit / combo lens when I bought the Z50II. I’ll have a full review of this lens soon on my TH-cam channel 🙏📸
I have the Nikon 18-140mm DX VR lens on my D5600 and love it. In fact it’s my base lens that I keep on my camera until I’m in a situation that calls for my wide angle or super tele. I’m not surprised the Z series lens is also a good one.
I always recommend that lens for Nikon's APSC line. It is way better than the old F mount superzooms and has good contrast, rare for the old superzooms.
As an aside, I am starting to appreciate how the 85 1.4 + FTZ renders on that sensor.
The lack of VR doesn't bother me but I don't use the camera for video much except on a tripod. But, for many people, this video will be very valuable. Thanks, Adrian!
Thanks for watching Phil. It's funny, just today while I was doing a lens review, I was taking a photo of a waterfall handheld with the Z50II. I didn't have a tripod. I wanted to slow the shutter speed to get motion blur in the water, but kept getting the whole shot blurred. Just an example of where VR in stills would have helped me. I would have been able to do the shot with my Z7 which does have internal VR. Have a great weekend
Thank you for yet another video on z50 ii. I wish you had talk about the rolling shutter as well (for both stills and videos) in this video. So the both topics has covered in single video. I could see the rolling shutter with 24-120. I hope you will do that in future for better clarity. 👍
I agree, rolling shutter is definitely something worth covering in more detail.
@ that would be great if you make a detailed video about it. Looking forward to it.
I am off tomorrow to Antartica and taking my Z8 along with the 28-400 and 24-120. I also have packed the z50.2 along with the 16-50 as a backup only. I really like the camera but I think when I return I may pick up the 18-140 for my travel needs. Wanted to take the big gear on this trip. Good video
Where are you in Antarctica, McMurdo Station?
Cheers
I used the Z50 with the Z 24-120mm at lot. Didn't really worry about VR since the lens was a wide to short tele, and I didn't shoot video at all. I just watched my shutter speed. Now with the Z50ii, I'll do the same, and all of my other lenses have VR. The Z50ii is a great little camera!
Hi Adrian, oh yes, ibis is definitely an advantage when it comes down to shoot video. as you said, it doesn't limit you in lens selection. a fantastic comparison. that difference with and without stabilization is crazy. thank you for the video, buddy 👍😉
Enjoy your weekend,
Christian
Thanks for watching Christian. Glad you enjoyed the video. Have a great weekend buddy 🙏
I think the Z50ii tackles a segment of the market at a great price, it can also appeal to someone like me who is shooting a Z6ii for their main camera but occasionally would like improved autofocus for birds or people in street situations. It also leaves Nikon space for a higher model with IBIS and better weather sealing if they so wish, think the mythical D500 replacement.
Electronic VR is available for video only, not stills. The lack of IBIS in the Z50II is very disappointing (especially as the Fuji X-S20 has it!!!) but not a deal breaker, it just means having to use a tripod when I'd rather not have to. The VR lenses work very well but my fave lens is the 24-70/4 which does not.
Hopefully in the future Nikon will produce a higher spec APS-C body (let's call it a Z80) having IBIS and a joystick, then I'll probably have my perfect camera.
The 18-140mm is an underrated lens. I bought it as a travel carry around and really like it. I’m glad you can get the Z50 ii without a lens as I didn’t need a second one. 😂. On my Z50 the VR on the 28-400mm works perfectly well. Thanks for the always excellent content
Thanks for sharing 🙏
Yep, I have the 18-140mm DX VR lens on my D5600. Its my everyday lens and is very versatile and sharp
You scared me with your title and opening statement, I went out first thing this morning and bought the Z50ii and 180-600 lens before seeing your video, thank god I’m not worried about VR, at least the 180-600 does have VR.
Goes well with the 180-600mm 👍
If it’s as good as it was photographing the sparrows in my garden, the bird eye detection seems extremely good. So crisp so far I’m pleased, I did buy on the grounds of your video a few weeks ago, no pressure on you 🤣
Thanks from Switzerland 🙏🏼👌🏼☺️🇨🇭❗️
VR is good for video, but rarely needed in photography unless your subject is moitionless. However, lenses with built in VR are useful for both genres. Cheers!
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I find VR valuable in stills photography and is needed. Waterfalls for example where you want to slow your shutter to get motion blur of the water in your shot, but not blur the entire photo. Low light doing interiors like cathedrals or halls or in the city at night. VR then becomes invaluable in stills, especially when not using a fast aperture lens. And fast aperture primes don't have VR on the lenses. Anyway I could go on and on. Thanks for watching 🙏
I'm still holding out for a replacement for the D500. I don't feel the Z50II is it.
In general it is not. But for bird photography, for me, it can replace it, because it recognizes and tracks birds and can shoot silently. Even if it is held much worse than the D500, with a third-party grip (I got the Smallrig, even if I still lack half a cm to be really comfortable) and mounting a good telephoto, in my opinion it can replace it! In fact I put the D500 up for sale... 😉
Thanks for this video. Very helpful. I have this camera and have been able to make videos successfully with the Nikon AF-P 70-300 4.5-5.6e ED VR lens with the FTZII adapter.
Another limitation of the Z50 ii is that the 18.2.1 version of IOS (and earlier versions) doesn’t support the camera’s raw file format. So for people who use Apple’s Photo app to edit their photos, they will need to shoot in jpeg format or import their images into Lightroom mobile, which does support the camera’s raw file format. Hopefully later versions of IOS will support the camera’s raw file format.
That's a very good point re the Apple IOS, I fit in that category and yes, no go on the RAW's (so far). Have to rely on my PC instead.
thanks!!
Great heads up vid man. Yeah not havin that internal VR is a turn off. Looks fine if you use VR lenses, but like you said, that then limits your lens choices.
Probably a credit to the VR on those Nikon VR lenses. I find I get smooth handheld video using the Nikon Z 180-600mm which has VR. Thanks for watching
I guess for video shooters maybe the Z5 would be a better option for the same price. However, for still photography ibis is not really needed. Thanks again for another video showing the capabilities of that little camera.
Thanks for watching my friend. I tend to disagree re the VR being not needed in stills, but see your point of view as well. Waterfalls for example where you want to slow your shutter speed to get motion blur of the water in your shot, but not blur the entire photo. Low light doing interiors like cathedrals or halls or in the city at night. VR then becomes invaluable in stills, especially when not using a fast aperture lens. And fast aperture primes don't have VR on the lenses. Have a great weekend 🙏
@@adrianalfordphotography I agree with you, for me, up until a year and a half ago, I did not have IBIS. Of course now I say: "how did we live without it" :). Cheers my friend.
Great advice Adrian on the Nikon Z50II very helpful. Great examples - many thanks for sharing the info - have a great weekend
Thanks for watching Shaun. Have a great weekend mate, cheers 🙏
Thanks Adrian for all the Z50II videos testing and explaining for all of us. My interest is video and not photo as I already have a good camera for that. Question: Will a Nikon Z FX camera with sensor stabilization AND a les with VR produce more stabile video (handheld) than the Z50II with a VR lens ?
It depends on how good you are at handholding a camera while taking video. I've used the Nikon Z 180-600mm VR lens on both my Z7 (FX) and Z50II (DX). I haven't really noticed any difference when handholding doing video on both cameras.
Great video! How does it pair with the tamron 50 400?
Haven't you asked this before?
Lack of IBIS isn't as big a deal as many make it out to be. It's is a very useful tool, no doubt, but it isnt the be all, end all (in my humble opinion).
Going to a full frame Nikon makes buying lenses a lot more expensive but I would love to have IBIS
if youre good photographer you dont need ibis to work,, unless youre videographer,, nowdays ibis is a must for handheld shoot,, but this z50ii its amazing camera for the prices compare to canon and sony in this price area,
Definitely the reason I didn't upgrade to the Z50ii. Bought a prime lens but can only use it handheld in good light for stills and video. So I am stuck with the kit zoom lenses. For my use case travel handheld is 95% of the time so I was very disappointed as they are great camera's. I might as well go back to micro for thirds most of them have IBIS.
I prefer ibis especially if I can’t use VR or OIS lenses. If Nikon was to bring out more dx lenses with VR, I might get a non ibis camera.
Many photographers have no interest in shooting video, for them the effects of VR or IBIS or both on video shooting is irrelevant. What would sell would be a better stills only camera at a lower price point because all the vide capabilities have been stripped out.
Maybe the fun in photography is that we have certain challenges to overcome. Perfect can become boring
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I was disappointed about this as well. Being able to use VR even with older F mount lenses that don't have it is great. The Z 70-180/2.8 would go great with this camera but that one doesn't have VR as well.
Another thing that is kind of a deal breaker for me? The shutter speed of 1/4000s. Last summer I did go faster with my Z7II a couple of times and it really saved me. One of those things you don't need all the time but it's very nice to have when you do.
🤔 ibis would be nice, but it would also have made the camera substantially more expensive than it is - none of its direct competitors have ibis either at this price…
I would definitely want to know this before buying the camera. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome, glad you found it helpful! Enjoy your weekend 🙏
The deal-breaker for me was a battery. If it had the enl15 battery that my other Nikon cameras have, I would have bought it.
Cracks me up how so many are losing their minds over no IBIS on this camera. I’ll take this camera with no IBIS and the Expeed 7 at this price point vs IBIS and no Expeed 7. Folks seem to completely ignore the balance of mfg costs, price point targets, and features that have to fit in those constraints.
Yep, all boils down to budget. Can't be expecting a Ferrari for the price of Corolla. As I mentioned, if people that are new to photography want VR, then maybe look into a full frame camera.
@adrianalfordphotography The problem with full frame is that those cameras are, in general, larger and thus less useful for everyday use. OK, the d780 is not a z camera, but I regret having bought that instead of the d7500 that is much smaller, and it seems very good (yes, I still like the old viewfinder). Now I have my camera with me for specific photo trips, not in my bag that I always carry with me for when there is a situation I like. Thus, today's street and holiday photographers will likely like the Z50 II with the standard VR lens as it is compact
@@pleclere I have a D750. For walking about travel shots it’s paired with to 24-120mm f/4 VR. Great OVF I only use live view for awkward angles (with the screen flipped up or down). I don’t consider it too big - it fits nicely in my large hands and has an excellent grip. Too heavy? No not really (it’s lighter than my old D200). I like to use a tripod especially for architecture and landscapes. I enjoy the process and it certainly helps both with precise composition and sharper images. I’m sticking with F-Mount because I can’t justify the cost of switching to Z-Mount just to get a slightly lighter camera and IBIS. I’m also put off by all the advanced video features that don’t interest me. I need a good stills camera with no video (which ought to bring the cost down).
@peterjohnson1739 I had APS-C in the past, thus my d780 is larger and heavier. The pictures I can take are great, although often I need positive compensation or my pictures are a little dark (probably I do something wrong). I bought this camera as I like the optical viewfinder while I'm also happy with its video. A pity that Nikon refuses any upgrade in the video software such as dog face recognition, they could invest some of the money they earn from the camera in improvements. For the rest, I'm fine with an autofocus that is not perfect. It is a hobby that relaxes me.
Why not use a gimbal?
I've mentioned before (numerous times) in other videos on my channel that you can use a gimbal. But again, a gimbal is extra money, extra gear to carry, extra time to set up etc. Not ideal for someone wanting to grab a snippet of video handheld and move on.
Nikon is not going to put IBIS into this older sensor from the D500/D7500 Era. It is the same sensor from what I understand. They will need to develop a whole new sensor. And even then they may not give their crop sensor bodies IBIS. IMO. Cheers Ron
Back end the day when I used to shoot with D500, or D7100 it didn’t had VR but I still got some amazing pictures on it with long telephoto lenses. So I think it really depends on the technic
Don't care about image stabilization at all.