The Nikon Z50 II May Be Entry-Level But It's SERIOUSLY Capable!

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  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +177

    Finally you're pronouncing it correctly! Well, Chris at least.

    • @Durio_zibethinus
      @Durio_zibethinus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      They're going halfway already, so proud with them 😆

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      @@Durio_zibethinus at least they've been saying Zed correctly the whole time!

    • @TL-xw6fh
      @TL-xw6fh 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Need to keep explaining to Jordan that it's pronounced as "Nee" not "Nigh".

    • @dominiclester3232
      @dominiclester3232 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TL-xw6fhSomething Kon from GOW does naturally...

    • @PetaPixel
      @PetaPixel  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      No Gordon! Not you too!!
      - Jordan

  • @generalben
    @generalben 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    I think people wanted a d7000 or even a6700 equivalent, but aps c is supposed to be entry level now.

    • @michaelcroff7097
      @michaelcroff7097 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Before buying the A6700 I downloaded sample raw files from the XT5, R7, Z50, A6600 and A6700 and only the A6700’s were even remotely close to full frame in flexibility. And the video IQ is even better. It’s an incredible camera that can help earn $400/hour+

    • @generalben
      @generalben 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @ weird way to end it. What is this, Linkedin?

    • @danielvilliers612
      @danielvilliers612 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@michaelcroff7097 LOL, if you can earn that much, why not go full frame then. Your post sound like a disguise sales pitch.

    • @KK-fi6ms
      @KK-fi6ms 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@danielvilliers612 Even if we ignore the massive differences in price, many people, myself included, simply prefer APSC cameras because of smaller bodies and significantly smaller lenses. Often literally half in size and weight compared to their full-frame equivalent (i.e. *1.5).

    • @NSXTypeRGTRLM
      @NSXTypeRGTRLM 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s exactly why I went to a D7500 instead of waiting for a mirrorless Z DX camera.

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +197

    Yes I understand "IBIS is not the norm in this price range", but then now how about Nikon release a higher-priced APSC camera with IBIS? This is your fourth APSC camera, Nikon. Not one has IBIS.

    • @brucegarethgeorge
      @brucegarethgeorge 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It may be in the pipeline. The D500 has yet to be replaced. Who knows?

    • @NorthBorneoLights
      @NorthBorneoLights 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      I think it's more likely they are cripple hammering their DX lines (ala Canon) to 'force' users to go high price FF out of frustration 😂

    • @pseudoryx9284
      @pseudoryx9284 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@NorthBorneoLights Yet here I am drooling at both Canon and Sony's APSC models. I have no issue with the Z50ii existing, but we need at least a Z70 to compete with the R7/A6700. If anything this just shows that Nikon is crippling its APSC line even more than its competitors. Give me IBIS and focus stacking (and then spoil me with a battery grip) and I will buy it new no question asked.

    • @1armbiker
      @1armbiker 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@NorthBorneoLightsZ5 costs the same, it’s not a higher price.

    • @haico1992
      @haico1992 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@pseudoryx9284it have focus stacking since z30

  • @rajin250
    @rajin250 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    if this camera had IBIS then I would upgrade my z50 to this one ... I dont mind the sensor size etc - z50 was already a very capable and fun camera to shoot with for a beginner like me. Plus the picture quality is top notch at this price point

    • @goldfries
      @goldfries 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Z 50 is a great camera, I like how it handles a lot more than my Z fc.

    • @barryobrien1890
      @barryobrien1890 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stick with the z50 and get a tiny gymbal for video. For new z50 buyers this is an upgrade. If you want to learn color grading it's perfect

  • @khaldounal-nuaimi3594
    @khaldounal-nuaimi3594 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Man, I just got back from the Nikon Museum, truly a treasure for any photographer.

  • @kylehaggard7348
    @kylehaggard7348 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +237

    I love nikon but the same sensor as the d500 from nearly a decade ago with no ibis for $960. Ouch. Coupled with the zero constant aperture zooms and single card slot- seems like we're working backwards from the high point of the d7200 era of nikon crop sensors. Tough sell in 2024.

    • @ts7071
      @ts7071 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      What’s the cheapest new apsc camera with IBIS? I really don’t know but I’d guess it’s a lot more than this (xt50? $1400, a6700? $1300?).

    • @kylehaggard7348
      @kylehaggard7348 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ts7071 a6700/xs20 are the cheapest new gen aps-c cameras with ibis, however both of those cameras have other significant improvements over the z50ii as well. Higher res and DR sensors, much improved video performance (codec and resolution), nearly double the battery capacity, etc. A worthy note is the a6600 which also has ibis for around the same price, but lacks a fair few modern features. The full frame Z5 also has ibis, but lacks loads of features that the z50ii has. Many MFT cameras have ibis, better video codecs, and same resolution, but trade off for worse autofocus and dynamic range while being a lot cheaper.

    • @MoonProds
      @MoonProds 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I m​ean you can easily get a Sony Zv-e10 under $600@@ts7071

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sad

    • @1armbiker
      @1armbiker 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I do wish they’d do something like a Z70 or Z80 that harkens back to the D5/500 days, but honestly at this point FX is just too cheap. Like back when full frame cost a minimum of $3000 for a D700 or the “affordable” D600 at $2100, sure it made sense to make a flagship class body with a smaller sensor to bring the price down and keep the higher end features, but you’ve been able to get a full frame Z5 for like $1000 for years now. At this point it just doesn’t make sense to invest into smaller sensors because FF is the sweet spot for performance, and the cost isn’t really higher.

  • @davidgambin2551
    @davidgambin2551 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Don’t get deceived with the sensor age, it’s outstanding, don’t let marketing mess around with your perception. It’s a small change but the camera was brilliant already, getting better eye detection is all it needed tbh. I loved my Z50 for the 4 years I had it. Would get one again, either I or II

  • @b34k97
    @b34k97 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +138

    I’d be fine with the same sensor… but no IBIS? No thanks.

    • @garykinard7553
      @garykinard7553 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hopefully Nikon will bring out a new pro level Croper..

    • @ShwarcArnold
      @ShwarcArnold 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garykinard7553 4Q 2025

    • @afferist
      @afferist 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      IBIS is not capable on full-frame Sony, it is even worse on crop

    • @Nathan.1882
      @Nathan.1882 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      for a 500+ grams cam .. kinda wierd it doesn't have ibis.

  • @janbonne
    @janbonne 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I am LOVING all the frames and video locations as well as the photography in this video. Wow. Kudos to capturing some amazing moments you two!

    • @janbonne
      @janbonne 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For example the color of Jordan’s shirt reflecting in his surrounding from his first shot

    • @pcoussa
      @pcoussa 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But why were all the photos in black and white?

    • @Durio_zibethinus
      @Durio_zibethinus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@pcoussaartistic preference?

    • @GrahamJonesJr
      @GrahamJonesJr 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, this video had exceptional beauty with color / composition / exposure -at least to my eyes. Was it Nikon? Or just being in Japan?!

  • @ronaldmcyr156
    @ronaldmcyr156 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Have used the Z50 for a few years. The sensor is great. The kit lenses DX 16-50 and 50-250 are surprisingly sharp and have built-in image stabilization. The full-frame Z 24-200 and 105 micro both have image stabilization and get extra range on this small body. I have owned and used a variety of NIKON DSLR/lenses, including the 850; the Z-lenses in equivalent price ranges are sharper; if you already have DSLR lenses, you can buy a F to Z adapter; the DX 16-80 f/2.8 is image-stabilized and has great optics. I own the Zf, which has superb IBIS, but it costs twice as much as the Z50 and is bigger/heavier. The Z50 is an excellent travel camera. Not convinced the upgrade is worthwhile for me. If this is your first venture into the Z system, I'd suggest getting a used Z50 with both the DX 16-50 and DX 50-250 kit lenses; there are plenty available at Keh, Adorama, B&H, EBay etc and you'll save a few hundred $.

  • @GS-XV
    @GS-XV 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The most impressive thing in the video is that Chris is finally pronouncing Nikon correctly, the other guy is hopeless though ...

  • @michaeljkeeney
    @michaeljkeeney 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I'll be picking this up! I've been waiting for this for a while, Nikon. Thanks!

    • @pilotdog68
      @pilotdog68 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been waiting a while too, but I really thought there would be a sensor upgrade...

    • @michaeljkeeney
      @michaeljkeeney 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @pilotdog68 Don't sweat it. I owned the D500 and this is the best crop sensor I've ever used.

  •  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I bought the Z50 two months ago (my first ever interchangeable lens camera), somewhat hesitating that I should wait for the already rumored Z50 II. Well, I don't mind at all. In those two months I had a lots of fun with the camera, made amazing pictures, and certainly saved a bit of money.
    Sure, the more advanced subject detection would be nice, as well as the flippy screen for times when i shoot in vertical, close to the ground. But it's still an amazing tool, I have zero regrets on not waiting for the II

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      🎉

    • @JamesFryerCreative
      @JamesFryerCreative 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Agreed. The Z50 is a great, and I think, underrated camera. It’s good that Nikon is improving it, but for photography, this feels more like a bump than a whole new version.

    • @xmeda
      @xmeda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why you selected such crippled mount that clearly only favours FF cameras? :D

    •  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@xmeda I didn't want to go fullframe right away. This one seemed to be a great opportunity to experience these kind of systems, and see if i liked it, and maybe figure out what features are missing for me, if any. My previous camera was a Lumix FZ-82 so it's a huge upgrade.
      I bought the 24-200 lens, and just a few days ago the 105 macro, both of them will work perfectly in case i go FF.
      Nikon seemed to be a great option. Fuji cameras felt really uncomfortable in my hands, i don't like Canon as a brand, and Sony is really expensive.
      I'll see if i can earn some money with my skills, and maybe i'll switch to FF when the Z50 is the limiting factor.
      Also, i like to hike, ride MTB so a smaller lighter camera is a plus.

  • @JjackVideo
    @JjackVideo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    The sensor is not a problem. The lack of IBIS is insane - especially to beginners coming from phones with fantastic stabilization

    • @opalyankaBG
      @opalyankaBG 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The kit lens is stabilized. 95% of Z50II buyers will never buy a second lens.

    • @barryobrien1890
      @barryobrien1890 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      If you want stable get an action camera, it kills everything else for half this price. Ibis is overrated. Before ibis everyone complained about af, then 1 card slot. People love to complain about something they will never purchase.

    • @xmeda
      @xmeda 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@barryobrien1890 Ibis is overrated? So you have no idea.
      All my Pentax bodies since 2006 had IBIS. It is absolute standard. And all my Olympus cameras have it also. EM5III can easily do 2 sec wideangle nightshots without any tripod just from hand. Plenty of fast lenses have zero stabilization due to element physics. IBIS solves that. There is no reason to omit such thing. Even the cheapest tiny Olympus EPL line has it.

    • @barryobrien1890
      @barryobrien1890 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @xmeda all depends on the use case. Sony released the Fx30 and Canon the R5c as video centric hybrid cameras without ibis. Obviously these very successful camera companies did not seek your armchair advice. The new age hybrid shooters or content creators that Nikon calls them, are looking to update their game on the video side for their social media and photography ibis is pretty bad for video compared to a gymbal. If Nikon is targeting users that want to shoot 10 bit log and color grade, that's their choice. Obviously Pentax and Olympus have learned from your advice and become wildly sucessful

    • @jammaschan
      @jammaschan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@xmeda so you're saying we shouldn't be shooting on ARRI Alexas or Sony Venice systems then? Not even RED or Blackmagic? Canon C series? None of those have IBIS. I wonder why?

  • @drbeardo6960
    @drbeardo6960 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I've got D500 with 200-500 for wildlife photography and Canon R6m2 with EF glasses for video
    Keeping my set-up

    • @bassangler73
      @bassangler73 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I got the same wildlife setup..I'm keeping mine as well!

    • @goldfries
      @goldfries 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Those are 2 amazing camera bodies from their time.

  • @ScottJWaldron
    @ScottJWaldron 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's an update at least. 😅 I'll be curious to see if the Z30 is updated as well. Though, my hope for something closer to a Nikon version of the Sony FX30 rather than a physically cut down version of the Z50ii is pretty much nil. 2 hour record limit, no ibis, single card slot, smaller battery... etc.

  • @rsteup
    @rsteup 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As usual, excellent video! What hand strap are you using? Cheers to Nikon! Thank you both.

  • @Cervin_Suisse
    @Cervin_Suisse 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you gents, interesting introductory video. I hope you will get a chance to do a in depth testing and present the results of your professional analysis. Usually APSC entry level cameras don't get that much investigative attention. Keep up the good work.

  • @Potato_Cannon
    @Potato_Cannon 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Really wish this had IBIS, I this might be a good entry level into the Nikon ecosystem (or perhaps a used/refurb Z50 Mark I?) I really do hope that a crop sensor IBIS camera comes out from Nikon though, had hoped this would be the one that would come with it...
    With the Nikon Z5 costing around 1000 dollars direct from Nikon these days and having a FF sensor, 24 mega pixels, IBIS, Dual UHS-II slots, what is the arguement for the Z50 II?

    • @haico1992
      @haico1992 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maybe, hopefully, Z30II

    • @haico1992
      @haico1992 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The argument is it cheap

    • @wiktorsynoracki9801
      @wiktorsynoracki9801 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      When you like sports or wildlife when you crop Z5 to DX format it has 10 megapixels instead of 21 from Z50. It is significant to some.

    • @wojtekimbier
      @wojtekimbier 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Furthermore Z5 has a relatively slow burst rate at 4.5fps compared to 11fps mechanical shutter of this one.

    • @Willymaze
      @Willymaze 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I own the Z5 and the Z30 and video has way better quality on the Z5, even being more constricted and limited. If you can get past the 1.7X crop with video is really nice. IBIS is a must in my opinion for handheld video, because the Z30 is jittery.

  • @ripcamera
    @ripcamera 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    This has me definitely hoping for Nikon Z fc II! Nikon's on a roll. Hopefully they make higher range of APSC cameras too, a Z60 or Z70 would be interesting, as well as more primes and zooms! 18-33mm f2 zoom would be a dream.

  • @MaxR.
    @MaxR. 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I was waiting for the Z50 II as i loved my Z5 but hated the size and weight. Got a Fujifilm X-S20 instead. If the Z50II would have IBIS I would switch back to Nikon. But like this, no thank you

  • @-grey
    @-grey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love that these companies are cranking out shareable community LUTs and recipes as a feature now. I imagine it's wayyy too complicated for most people buying Fujifilm cameras to bother with though. Fuji recipes are just picking probably classic chrome, tweaking the contrast and saturation, and twerking the white balance shift. That's easy.

  • @macccu
    @macccu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It’s interesting that Nikon and Panasonic are opening profile/recipe ecosystem to users, while Fuji (that is most known for it) keeps it closed and uses it upsell new cameras. I mean you can create own sims, but only in camera and there is easy way to share.

    • @Durio_zibethinus
      @Durio_zibethinus 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Looks like an illusion of choice in photography industry, eh? 👀

    • @burnedmozzarella
      @burnedmozzarella 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@macccu olympus is far more liberating tho it's own recipe can't be shared to other users

  • @PiTdeLyX
    @PiTdeLyX 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Oh, that was nice to see! Finally the z50 got a af-system that’s not years behind other brands! If it truly has the uhs-II card slot then it would be a really capable camera for everything wildlife, even with the older sensor.
    They really need to step up their game in regard to lenses or give us those sigma f2.8 zooms that canon recently opened for the rf-mount.
    Bigger battery’s is also great to hear, I just hope they are downward compatible with the older cameras…

  • @iphalemghi1494
    @iphalemghi1494 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How about the heat problem? How many hours or photos before the camera shut down because overheat

  • @corykphotography
    @corykphotography 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don't care what anyone says about it. Good or bad, I want it. I'm betting it's more than capable and would be great as a backup for my z5

  • @Austinite333
    @Austinite333 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The sensor is a not an issue. The D500 was raved about and that same sensor with more modern processing is just fine. If you want more mp’s go high end full frame. Personally I have always found 20-24 to be plenty. My concern is the camera built any better than the original? I have an original Z6 and the build on that camera is just fine.

  • @FireImageFM1
    @FireImageFM1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice review as always however I do love that you get the products early and get the test them out and tell us about them that is amazing and awesome keep doing what you doing and this review has nothing to do with you and just got something to do with the camera I'm not biased towards any camera but I like your reviews and keep going

  • @randiTriadi
    @randiTriadi วันที่ผ่านมา

    I want a small travel & stage camera. Looks like the z50ii is a perfect candidate for that role. The question would be to get this or wait for z5ii?

  • @jlwilliams
    @jlwilliams 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Yipe, so much of the video in this segment (not just the end) looks flat and murky… was that the camera's fault, or was the light really that bad the whole time?

    • @ts7071
      @ts7071 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Looked cloudy and had poor lighting.

    • @alexsolovjovs4380
      @alexsolovjovs4380 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No IBIS camera shake is pretty evident too. Looks pretty amateurish if that is what they were after to highlight the target audience and expected use of z50ii

    • @ts7071
      @ts7071 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alexsolovjovs4380 yah all those non ibis camera (and some with ibis-looking at you Sony) look similar. Really need a gimbal

  • @botch3936
    @botch3936 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Still perfectly happy with my D-500, but have lusted over the 3D Focus Tracking/Eye Tracking (I shoot critters), and this with the F-to-Z adapter might just be my ticket. Thanks!

  • @andrzejjaniak6849
    @andrzejjaniak6849 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    First of all, Z50 is not a6700 equivalent, rather a6400 equivalent. No IBIS at this price range.
    Second of all, if you look at 20mpx on a DX, the pixel density is equivalent to 45mpx on FX. There's no need for more mpx. Also, its one of the best DX Nikon sensors ever. I am glad they kept it.

    • @codykodina8428
      @codykodina8428 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They say mention that the Z50 II is comparable to a6400 @ 15:09

    • @ghaah
      @ghaah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No its not great bad quality compared to sony sensor

    • @ariesmight6978
      @ariesmight6978 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@ghaah " Great bad quality "¿¿

    • @petouser
      @petouser 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      idk. That's like saying less than 4 MP would be enough on an iPhone, because then it would be the same pixel density than on an 45 MP Nikon FF sensor. I don't think it works like that. There is nothing wrong with smaller image sensors having higher pixel densities since smaller formats have different lenses that work better for their regarding formats.

  • @lordmashie
    @lordmashie 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    North American discovers they’re the only ones that say ‘nye con’

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lol

    • @davidgambin2551
      @davidgambin2551 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      In the UK people are switching from eye-key-ah to e-keh-ah (IKEA). And also Nike, and other stuff. I’d be glad if the US stopped saying nye-kon 😂

    • @davidgambin2551
      @davidgambin2551 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Just imagine them saying so-nye for Sony 😂😂😂

    • @shrayesraman5192
      @shrayesraman5192 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bill Nye con

    • @geofflongford2008
      @geofflongford2008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And zee

  • @detachedmind
    @detachedmind 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Does the built in flash on the z50II trigger remote Nikon flashes?

  • @steve3751
    @steve3751 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    can you compare the autofocus to the a6400 and r50 and z30

  • @MrJayclas
    @MrJayclas 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you Jordan for pronouncing the cameras manufacturer names correct!

  • @sdhute
    @sdhute 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the low light that 20mp sensor brings.

  • @ItzSi
    @ItzSi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It makes a lot of sense as a back up or someone new to the system, but it’s about time they make a pro APSC body with IBIS.

  • @milanzivkovic5790
    @milanzivkovic5790 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am traveling to Kamakura this Sunday but I guess I've missed you by a few weeks. There were some interesting black and white photos. Love the night shoot.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You’ll love it! And you will hit the beautiful colors that hadn’t started for us yet.

  • @anthonymrbs
    @anthonymrbs 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m sure Nikon knows much more than I do when it comes to what cameras they release, but I think an APS sensor in a Z6iii body with the bigger battery and IBIS priced under $2000 would be fantastic. But they also need a more pro mid range DXZ zoom.

  • @FernandoC
    @FernandoC 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My last camera I bought was the D610 and I want to stay in the full frame world, so any advice if i want to stick with Nikon? Is there something coming out soon that I should wait for if i want to buy a camera in the next ~6 months?

  • @capturemeinpictures
    @capturemeinpictures 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review. Question: When plugged into a computer and used as a webcam, does the new Z50ii get power from and send a video signal through the USB-C cable? The original Z50 does not, but the Z30 does. Thanks

  • @sgjrfjtr9854
    @sgjrfjtr9854 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    many have written about IBIS, but where is the reduced ISO here? ISO 50 is very necessary when working with high-aperture optics, or when we want to get a longer shutter speed...

  • @choozzzzchoochoo
    @choozzzzchoochoo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The red lut can use some tuning, too much contrast...

  • @cr4zyg047
    @cr4zyg047 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Gives me fond memories of my first camera, the Nikon D40. How far we've come!

    • @MusabTahaTarik
      @MusabTahaTarik 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      pretty little camera like a toy but a solid toy

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol

  • @oviasifovihasan
    @oviasifovihasan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How do you compare it with FUJIFILM X-M5? Mainly, video capabilities...

  • @baldgamer305
    @baldgamer305 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every Time you said Nikon it felt like someone slapped me over the face 😊, Love the review , the Channel and Podcast guys keep up the awesome content.

  • @garyn7067
    @garyn7067 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Nice but underwhelming. I understand trying to keep the cost down, but Nikon is still badly behind Canon in the APS-C world.
    I'm waiting for the Z70 or Z500, with IBIS.
    Price-wise, the Z50-mk2 is comparable to the Canon R10, a $1,000 camera.

    • @drchtct
      @drchtct 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Behind Canon? You mean behind Sony and Fuji. Do people use Canon APSC cameras? Which lenses do they use lmao

    • @el_fucko
      @el_fucko 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@drchtct They use lenses made for full frame bodies and convince themselves that there is a sweet spot advantage to using only half the image circle. I speak from experience...

    • @garyn7067
      @garyn7067 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@drchtct TOTALLY agree.
      Canon historically has been Nikon's competition. But now in the mirrorless world, Fuji and Sony are established, and both Nikon and Canon are playing catch up.
      Canon and Nikon are both in underdog situations.
      For cameras:
      Nikon only has the Z50 and now the Z50-mk2. Sorry, for this, I don't count the Zfc and Z30.
      - Nikon is missing the mirrorless equivalent of the D7xxx and D500 cameras. Unless their strategy is to push those users to FF.
      Canon has the R100, R50, R10 and R7.
      Fuji has the XT30ii, XT50 and XT4
      Sony has the A6100, 6400, 6600 and 6700
      For lenses:
      Nikon: The Z lens mount is open to 3rd party.
      BUT you need a lens with OIS, since the Z50 and Z50ii do not have IBIS. Bummer. This cuts out some of the Z lenses.
      Canon: Until just recently the R lens mount was closed to 3rd party lens makers, making autofocus lenses. And only the APS-C R mount has been opened, the FF mount is still closed. So if you get an R7, there is NO Sigma RF 70-200/2.8. You either buy the $3,000 Canon RF lens, or adapt an EF lens. And EF lenses have been and are being discontinued by the lens makers, so that is NOT a long term option.
      So for lenses Canon is definitely behind.
      I made a comparison chart last year, and it showed how badly both Nikon and Canon APS-C are behind Fuji and Sony for OEM and 3rd party lenses.

    • @barryobrien1890
      @barryobrien1890 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@garyn7067agreed, but the older Sony and Fuji lenses don't stack up that well to the newest mirrorless lenses, so unless you go used, the value of these older lenses is not great. Fuji has excellent glass but it's more expensive than ff glass, so it's really size that you get at the expense of crap af. At least these new Nikon and Canon apsc have Sony level af, and pretty decent kit lenses. It is entry level for these companies. Fuji it's different as they don't offer ff, so it's not a fair comparison

  • @Alsayid
    @Alsayid 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So, if you don't care about video but are focused on stills, how does it compare to the Canon R50?

  • @andrewmason8691
    @andrewmason8691 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It’s only a small thing, but I like the dedicated button for Picture Control. I hope my Z6iii, Z8 and Z9 get it in a future firmware update.

  • @samki_foto
    @samki_foto 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like it having HLG format. Coming from Z fc I am not sure I should upgrade but it has more video features so that's good if you are looking for that.

  • @MarKuzvicky
    @MarKuzvicky 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    So 5-year old tech is okay??

    • @planetfun85
      @planetfun85 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No, its not, but r10, r50, r7 have the same old sensors from dslrs. Even older than this.

    • @danieliigoosmillo3252
      @danieliigoosmillo3252 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dude I use a 15 year old cam

    • @Rushtik9506
      @Rushtik9506 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even it's the same old sensor it doesn't mean the materials use is the same, it's different and improved,

    • @andrzejjaniak6849
      @andrzejjaniak6849 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This sensor is excellent, one of the best DX sensors on the market still which shows how good it is. Plus, with new processor it's going to be a different performance. Better processors impact image quality as well.

    • @Shoxart
      @Shoxart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, it's not okay, we don't buy this camera and Nikon will decide to upgrade this in a year to Z50s MK2 :)... with proper specs.

  • @ralffroberg1322
    @ralffroberg1322 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the camera weather resistant?

  • @hendrikmintarno
    @hendrikmintarno 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    i wish nikon release the 24-85 f/2.8-4 for Z. great for travel and combined with this body, should be great.

  • @ZacharyPawlowski
    @ZacharyPawlowski 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd like to see Jordan discuss the Panasonic S9 vs the Nikon ZF for video

  • @prentrupathome5319
    @prentrupathome5319 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Side flip screen, headphone socket, 10 bit, tally light, product showcase, this is excellent for video. Nikon 16-50 kit lens is better than Sony. Also the Z50 is much nicer to hold/handle than others. Will they bring out an equivalent Z30ii for travellers?

  • @rawalkiran1
    @rawalkiran1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Greetings 🙏🙏 any idea when z80/90 shall be coming ???

  • @Anugrah_Amriza
    @Anugrah_Amriza 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    As a Z50 MK I User, feel free to call the MK II a Fossil with Upgrades. I gave the permission to do so since I own the first generation 🤣

  • @cameronricks4157
    @cameronricks4157 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Couple questions I would love you to answer on the podcast if willing.
    1. Is the autofocus good enough to use for birds in flight?
    2. Is the rolling shutter enough of an issue with the prerelease capture that it isn’t usable for birds in flight?
    The dream scenario I would use this camera for is to catch birds taking off using the pre release capture, but if the autofocus won’t keep up and the image will be a wavy mess then that won’t really work.
    Thanks for always reading the comments!

  • @MichaelWerneburg
    @MichaelWerneburg 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Compelling review. After a decade with IBIS I struggle without it.
    P.S. For this displaced Calgarian, I find Kamakura the best place bring visitors to Tokyo. Super for a walk with a camera (or better yet a bike rental).

  • @miheerporadiya
    @miheerporadiya 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Sony a6400 and fuji xs-10 smokes this

    • @ditsepusegerane7942
      @ditsepusegerane7942 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Easy!

    • @Anugrah_Amriza
      @Anugrah_Amriza 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      *a6700

    • @m4rcin847
      @m4rcin847 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Anugrah_Amriza6700 is in another league. Even 6400 is better than this.

    • @jimstirling7223
      @jimstirling7223 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@m4rcin847 There are no fanboys like Sony fanboys , the A6400 has no IBIS, 1 UHS 1 slot, awful ergonomics , etc etc it also cost $900 at launch there are no perfect cameras from any maker just take your pick . As regards IBIS for whatever reason both Sony and Panasonic have vlogging centric cameras with no IBIS

    • @m4rcin847
      @m4rcin847 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@jimstirling7223 There are no haters like Sony haters, most likely Fuji noobs that bought one coz TikTok told them to. Why no IBIS? Maybe because its next to useless in video. Sony and Panasonic people knows that pretty well, unlike you. If you are serious about video, you buying a gimbal. Similar cost to paying more for camera with IBIS but infinitely better results.

  • @wongkesiang2287
    @wongkesiang2287 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kamakura have been cloudy for the past week, I wonder what day you guys filmed on?

  • @Isewake
    @Isewake 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would like to know if the AF is just as fast and reliable as the D500. Shoot collegiate sports so that is probably the thing of most importance to me.

  • @iamakkkshay
    @iamakkkshay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Why not a 12MP APS-C sensor for full pixel 4K readout :(
    This does pixel binning for 4K?

    • @iamakkkshay
      @iamakkkshay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ok, so for 4K 30 it's 5.6K oversampled while 4K 60 is cropped to 1.5X for 4K readout.
      Sony A6700 and ZV-E10ii are much better when compared, this compares to A6400 specs which is fine for beginners for photography and filmmaking.

    • @iamakkkshay
      @iamakkkshay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The more I look into the more I love this camera XD
      No IBIS, No Low Pass Filter, Mechanical Shutter with brightest EVF, Built in Flash, Pre-Capture makes it one of a kind in this category :)
      Yes, real filmmakers do hate IBIS

    • @simonyoung1339
      @simonyoung1339 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iamakkkshayall true but us filmmakers do really love an OLPF. No olpf is a deal breaker.

    • @Shoxart
      @Shoxart 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iamakkkshay This camera is not for semi-pro recording. This crop it's very annoying.

    • @iamakkkshay
      @iamakkkshay 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shoxart This is a 1080p camera :)
      no crop in 30/60/120fps then

  • @corktail7900
    @corktail7900 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i think the new picture controls will teach people to shoot jpeg instead of raw, because now you can get a style you want sooc instead of wasting time editing

  • @myretiredlifeinjapan6146
    @myretiredlifeinjapan6146 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice to see ya'll in my hometown. Glad you didn't get nailed by the zooming hawks. Wish I knew...would have taken you out for Yakiniku! Been thinking about getting a 2nd video camera for b roll. Have Z8 and ZF... really don't want to spend a lot on a 3rd camera (Z6iii), but no IBIS, and I need to get APSC lenes? Hmmm? Thanks for the encouraging episode. Safe travels.

  • @africanwildlifeonline
    @africanwildlifeonline 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can it take the FTZ adapter?

    • @robin9339
      @robin9339 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes it can

    • @fwfeo
      @fwfeo 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes of course, because it’s a Z mount camera like Z6, 7, 8 & 9.

  • @JulianFok
    @JulianFok 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great job guys! Kamakura is now on my list of places to visit!

  • @MichaelaWerner
    @MichaelaWerner 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like Nikon cameras and if I hadn't invested in Micro Four Thirds this year, I would have buying this camera. I wish you plenty of fun in Japan, I am this week in Japan too.

  • @Wildbill95
    @Wildbill95 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hoping to see one of your great shootouts between these new APS-C's soon....Fuji X-S20 vs Z 50 II vs r7 II or whichever cameras make the best shootout.

  • @Tikbalang5.0
    @Tikbalang5.0 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Alright the PP Pros get the like for that KEH add, that was great (and yes I'm bringing back the PP Pros).

  • @RzaNaziri
    @RzaNaziri 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for pleasing Nikon and not mentioning the rolling shutter problem!

    • @PetaPixel
      @PetaPixel  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      5:19

    • @RzaNaziri
      @RzaNaziri 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PetaPixelfor total of 4 seconds

  •  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really want one might try and get one when I have some cash. Good informative video!

  • @jpdj2715
    @jpdj2715 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Picture Controls" to me seem to offer nothing new here, except their marketing as a way to compete with Fuji's film emulations. Nikon NX Studio and Nikon cameras already since ages can create profiles and modify them. They can be moved around between cameras via the memory card.
    In the B&W section, Nikon added Deep Tone Monochrome that reminds me of 120 confection Kodak Tri-X - my favourite. (The 120 confection - 60 mm wide - was used in real medium format cameras and it differed from the emulsion on the 135 confection films.)
    When I discovered the Deep Tone Monochrome, I copied it to NX Studio and to my Z camera.
    The grain differs, yes, and that's a matter of raw processing software. But it's not an issue. The gradation out of the box is beautiful.
    The picture controls are just profiles and in the meantime, Adobe emulates these "camera profiles" with profiles for Adobe Camera Raw too. You can shoot raw (i.e. Bayer colour) and in post convert to Deep Tone Monochrome B&W. Or other profiles.
    Note that in Adobe, "Adobe Standard" means you use a camera-specific-profile that tries to make all cameras look the same: Adobe flat, Adobe neutral - easily displayed on a 7-bits per channel monitor that emulates 8 bits per channel - with limited colour space.
    While Adobe Camera Raw is the raw processor for/in both Lightroom Classic (it IS the Develop tab) and Photoshop, its resources are in the Lightroom directories: 1,287 "Adobe Standard" profiles that all try to make your images look the same. If that doesn't work properly, then "the naive" blame cameras and sensors, as they have no clue. It may just be a less successful Adobe profile for your camera (down to firmware version in some cases).
    Also note that cameras without OLPF shoot much sharper images than cameras with OLPF.
    You can see - ceteris paribus - the impact of the OLPF when you compare the sharpest F-mount lens in DxOMark when mounted on a D800 (OLPF, 36MP) to mounted on a D800E (OLPF Eliminated, 36MP).
    At full frame (photosite density), all Nikons under that 36MP have an OLPF, and above, have not. So a 24 MP Z full frame camera has one, but a 20MP APS-C Nikon has not and that's why they shoot comparably sharp images.
    When we first got cameras offered without OLPF, "we" had to swallow residual Bayer grain. This is just inadequate or failed raw processing as per the Bayer paradigm. Or lazy programming. Shots taken in fairly normal light levels should not have grain. But cameras without OLPF may have grain in darker image zones, low contrast zones, and blurry zones (where, in each case, better raw processing AI is needed to compensate the absence of the OLPF).
    Nikon have not upped their ante in this respect as in NX Studio we see detail loss, or in other raw processing apps we see better detail recovery, e.g. in the highlights. This can just be a matter of AI of the "learning" (as opposed to pure "algorithmic") type not having been trained enough before it was sent to market.
    Adobe took until 2023 to come up with improved AI Denoise in their ACR tool, while Topaz (DeNoise AI) was years ahead and DxO (DeepPRIME in PhotoLab and PureRAW) somewhere in between. Pressure from these latter two must have convinced Mudbrick management but the first version had extremely bad demosaicking.

  • @qyl-km
    @qyl-km 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To better support 3rd party lens, IBIS is a must. A lot of 3rd party lens especially large aperture prime ones are non-VR.

  • @JonInLondon
    @JonInLondon 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know what's going on just below Chris' right ear at 1.57-ish, but is it real, real but made stronger, or an artefact?

  • @johnwilde164
    @johnwilde164 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nikon doesn't sell Zed cameras in the USA, they only sell Zee cameras. :-)

  • @jalisco2123
    @jalisco2123 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Question, does it have IBIS…?

  • @martinmartynez2425
    @martinmartynez2425 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanks for video guys 👍

  • @arrow501
    @arrow501 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Has it got built-in sensor cleaning? The original didn't have it.

  • @amermeleitor
    @amermeleitor 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want a XT30 / XE4 from Nikon. An APSC camera smaller than the ZFC.

  • @koolkutz7
    @koolkutz7 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am not sure I am to impressed with the camera specs but I loved the music track in the image samples section! So essentially, it has the same sensor as my Nikon D7500 and still no IBIS. I bought a Fujifilm X-S10 a couple of years ago and that is a lovely little camera. Now they know how to do color science 🙂

  • @MrNecropodo
    @MrNecropodo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    1:24 you said Nikon on the English way

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh my lord I did! So sorry for that slip up.

  • @jameswelsh453
    @jameswelsh453 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review, I have the z50 and love it, full of features and light, i also have the z6 with 24-120mm very heavy compared, z50 great travel camera! P.S. Let Jordan do the videoing Chris, he doesn't miss tops of heads! lol

  • @matthieugille1914
    @matthieugille1914 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Birds mode in AF on Z50 II but not on ZF that it cost the double Price...when a firmware update for the ZF?

  • @ЮрийВенедиктович-т8ъ
    @ЮрийВенедиктович-т8ъ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is red record diod could be turned off manually?

  • @ZachAshcraftPhotography
    @ZachAshcraftPhotography 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    any details on overheating?

  • @MehdiRF
    @MehdiRF 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this camera weather sealed?

  • @BjørjaBear
    @BjørjaBear 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The lenses doesn't seem to be there for Nikon APSC

  • @matthewwells1606
    @matthewwells1606 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you know the EVF refresh rate? Is it still 60 Hz?

  • @HarryLewinASR
    @HarryLewinASR 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd appreciate an analysis: how signifiant is a Raw shooter need to access the raw when a well thought out (raw+) JPG is available. You pitched this camera as a path to grow to shoot raw, but getting away from shooting only raw is a valid path, especially if the perdominant edits that a raw shooter would make can be anticipated and pre-applied. Perhaps only a handfull of well thought out film modes would suffice in 90%+of the time.

  • @gordon3988
    @gordon3988 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks guys,..a lot of improvements to a good camera, albeit like many noted IBIS, even at a Sony level (OK, not great) would have been a big plus. More than just an incremental upgrade IMO. Older sensor I think is a testament to the fact that any sensor in a camera from the last several years is good enough for most uses. No need to improve further in many cases, so a lot of new features are largely just ways to make the camera be more fun or a better fit for social media uses.

  • @moderntimes4814
    @moderntimes4814 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Suggest a camera in 3 category ( pro, enthusiastic, biggeners) camera for still photography

  • @SakaphotoGraphics
    @SakaphotoGraphics 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    かりすくん、ナイコンは何ですか?Only two Naikon isn't too bad, I guess. However, you were in Kamakura and only photographed one Buddha? Aren't there hundreds? I thought about the Z50 and thought that it was too 2005 for me. The latest is better, but I'd probably still buy a Panasonic GH5 Mk II because of all of the video controls.

  • @keithvlogs1
    @keithvlogs1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    really expected more from jordan..... I would take a stabilised 8 bit ANYDAY.... compared to a jittery mess of a 10 bit video :(
    The jitter is just hard in the eyes... always have been. Will send you guys a free mono pod.

  • @ZangLussuria
    @ZangLussuria 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been waiting for a Z50ii. Was choosing between a Z30 or Fuji X-M5. I leaned towards the X-M5 because of the film sims and product priority mode but I really do like the grip of the Z30.
    I use a Tamron 28-75/2.8 on my Nikon D80 and I'm just waiting for the Tamron 17-70/2.8 for Z mount.

    • @slimphotog
      @slimphotog 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you do without a viewfinder if you choose Z30/X-M5? That's my dilemma.

  • @bromoboy
    @bromoboy 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love Red lut, it looks contrasty and dense

  • @ReValveiT_01
    @ReValveiT_01 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Power over USB?

  • @ebinrock
    @ebinrock 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not that I should expect too much out of a sub-$1K camera, but does anyone happen to know if the 10-bit video is 4:2:2 color space?

  • @deepaksomayya
    @deepaksomayya 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I believe they should have give 2 SD card Slots as it goes again Competition like R7