Just picked it up from the sailmaker the other week. hoping to use it in one of our first trips. but with current winds I feel I will use it more often than a spinnaker…. currently gale force winds for 4 days in a row 😳
well done, but one tip, have a d-ring installed on the deck, and have the "staysail" in a bag, so it deploys easy (as due to this stay design the sail will have to be a hank-on style, so will take some time to rig, if not done in harbor, beforehand), but this is a good way of having a backup, or also installing a storm sail pre-rigged, so you can deploy easily.
Hi Andy, Thanks for the tip’s. I actually have the staysail in a bag on deck and ready to be deployed. Fully right, you don’t want to rig it when you need to. As for d-ring I’m not sure. The previous owner pre-welded a “connector” on deck and it proved to work good 👍!
I mentioned a d-ring, as it is flush to the deck, as the ring folds up when not in use, so you don't have the tripping Hazzard, like with other eye style fixed fittings.@@SailingWindRose
Ah, that makes sense. However, the current solution is welded to the deck so can’t really take that off besides grinding it down. Agree with you though, for the lifelines I did apply d-rings and that works great. Tnx for the tips @andyvan5692
Hey! I have the same boom and have an issue. My reefing lines are super resistant and not free-moving at all. What could this be? Do I need to drill out rivets or can I just remove the outhall part with a Torx?
Hey WillGrgor4392, I thought about this a bit and let me start by saying I’m not an expert but these are the possibilities I see. 1) the wheels are not turning smoothly 2) the line is to thick 3) the line is twisted inside 4) the line itself is old Most of the options you can kind of check without opening the boom. In your case you have the lines already in the boom. You could try to run another (nee) thin line that you connected to the current one to see if that helps. If it’s the wheels I was able to get them out easily without any drilling or much screws. Besides that I would not know but that does not mean your boom has any particular things undid not have. As it’s a Selden you could consider taking the number engraved at the bottom on the mast and give them a call/ drop them a line. They know their product so are in a better position tichelt you probably. My gut feeling says not to drill as replacing a reef line should be relatively straightforward. (E.g when it snaps you also need it be able to do something.) Good luck, hope it helps and works!
@@SailingWindRose This is excellent thank you. You know what, I have a feeling the lines are too thick. At the Gooseneck end the lines are much thinner which suggests that they are being compressed somewhere inside (Probably by a block). Thanks so much for your help!
Hey, Welcome, happy to help. If the line is to thick it really makes a difference. If you have a spare laying around you could just give it a try. Good luck, pretty sure you can fix this! :)
Another informative video Jan, thanks. My boom has single line reefing which has the added complication of 'cars' and 'pulleys' inside the boom but similar to you, I wanted to know how it all works so that I know I can fix it myself. What size (mm) reefing lines did you use?
TNX! Appreciated. I checked my email correspondence and Indicated my line was about 10mm. Loosely measured, not compressed with the calliper. That is, not putting pressure. Can’t find the invoice but did check the site for you and that indicates 8-10-12. So I guess 10 is the size. Hope it helps! :)
that is a very good idea indeed Scott! going to think about that and ask the boys from CS rigging if it would be possible with this type of line. should be I guess….
In an upcoming video I’ll post on the performance of the sail Christopher. in my case I was lucky I already had all the arrangements on deck and in the mast. Saved a lot of work. is that already done in your case?
@@SailingWindRose My boat is 73 yankee 38 s%s, there is a track on center of foredeck for blooper sail, no attachment point slightly down mast, as other sail halyard from top of mast, may be advisable to reinforce bulkhead under track,
S&S, nice! Also amazing ships. As for the blooper sail, I don’t intend to carry that although I might regret it so there is a search out on the local EBay, let’s see. As for reinforcement, might make sense. Intended use on my end is not the best of weathers so needs to stay there. No clue if needed on you ship off course. Good luck in any case with the adjustment. If you are going to add and additions point in the mast please know I have back stays to support.
Hi 112praktijken, eerlijkheidshalve heb ik hem voornamelijk gebruikt in “opgeborgen” positie. En dat is mi de reden waarom ik zeker geen staal zou willen want dan moet je er redelijk spanning op zetten om klapperen te voorkomen. En aangezien hij bij het staande want opgeborgen is zou dat klapperen of spanning op de zaling zijn in mijn geval. Ik heb hem wel laten maken zodat ik hem goed op spanning kan zetten en dat werkt prima volgens mij. Enige nadeel dat ik nu zie: het is wat dikker. Met name waar de splits van het oog zit gaan de leuvers er wat stroever overheen. Succes met je keuze!
Nice to see the details of the installation. Look forward to seeing the new sail in action in future episodes.
Just picked it up from the sailmaker the other week. hoping to use it in one of our first trips. but with current winds I feel I will use it more often than a spinnaker…. currently gale force winds for 4 days in a row 😳
You showed med how the boom is inside. Thank you. I have a Maxi 68.
Not a lot there but knowing it helps :). Good luck with your Maxi! Nice ship as well!
Good example of boom lines.
Job well done. Happy sailing. Best regards from Jarle
Very nice to see in details how it is inside the boom. I have similar system, but, my lines also are attached to the tack.
hey Leonardo, great to hear you liked to see it. I was quite curious myself but loved the simplicity of it, really nice!
Good luck with boat improvements!
thanks Aledae, currently working on bilgepumps, electricity and a series drogue so stay tuned!
the reason I suggest a d-ring, is that it helps hold the bag down, like a spinnaker/gennaker hoist, so the bag doesn't fall overboard.
well done, but one tip, have a d-ring installed on the deck, and have the "staysail" in a bag, so it deploys easy (as due to this stay design the sail will have to be a hank-on style, so will take some time to rig, if not done in harbor, beforehand), but this is a good way of having a backup, or also installing a storm sail pre-rigged, so you can deploy easily.
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the tip’s. I actually have the staysail in a bag on deck and ready to be deployed. Fully right, you don’t want to rig it when you need to. As for d-ring I’m not sure. The previous owner pre-welded a “connector” on deck and it proved to work good 👍!
I mentioned a d-ring, as it is flush to the deck, as the ring folds up when not in use, so you don't have the tripping Hazzard, like with other eye style fixed fittings.@@SailingWindRose
Ah, that makes sense. However, the current solution is welded to the deck so can’t really take that off besides grinding it down. Agree with you though, for the lifelines I did apply d-rings and that works great. Tnx for the tips @andyvan5692
Hey!
I have the same boom and have an issue. My reefing lines are super resistant and not free-moving at all. What could this be? Do I need to drill out rivets or can I just remove the outhall part with a Torx?
Hey WillGrgor4392,
I thought about this a bit and let me start by saying I’m not an expert but these are the possibilities I see.
1) the wheels are not turning smoothly
2) the line is to thick
3) the line is twisted inside
4) the line itself is old
Most of the options you can kind of check without opening the boom. In your case you have the lines already in the boom. You could try to run another (nee) thin line that you connected to the current one to see if that helps. If it’s the wheels I was able to get them out easily without any drilling or much screws.
Besides that I would not know but that does not mean your boom has any particular things undid not have.
As it’s a Selden you could consider taking the number engraved at the bottom on the mast and give them a call/ drop them a line. They know their product so are in a better position tichelt you probably.
My gut feeling says not to drill as replacing a reef line should be relatively straightforward. (E.g when it snaps you also need it be able to do something.)
Good luck, hope it helps and works!
@@SailingWindRose
This is excellent thank you. You know what, I have a feeling the lines are too thick. At the Gooseneck end the lines are much thinner which suggests that they are being compressed somewhere inside (Probably by a block).
Thanks so much for your help!
Hey,
Welcome, happy to help. If the line is to thick it really makes a difference. If you have a spare laying around you could just give it a try. Good luck, pretty sure you can fix this! :)
Another informative video Jan, thanks. My boom has single line reefing which has the added complication of 'cars' and 'pulleys' inside the boom but similar to you, I wanted to know how it all works so that I know I can fix it myself. What size (mm) reefing lines did you use?
TNX! Appreciated. I checked my email correspondence and Indicated my line was about 10mm. Loosely measured, not compressed with the calliper. That is, not putting pressure. Can’t find the invoice but did check the site for you and that indicates 8-10-12. So I guess 10 is the size. Hope it helps! :)
How bout doing a long splice to make it(reefing line) longer? I can see a whole new video! Hurrah!
that is a very good idea indeed Scott! going to think about that and ask the boys from CS rigging if it would be possible with this type of line. should be I guess….
I want to put inner stay on my boat also
In an upcoming video I’ll post on the performance of the sail Christopher. in my case I was lucky I already had all the arrangements on deck and in the mast. Saved a lot of work.
is that already done in your case?
@@SailingWindRose My boat is 73 yankee 38 s%s, there is a track on center of foredeck for blooper sail, no attachment point slightly down mast, as other sail halyard from top of mast, may be advisable to reinforce bulkhead under track,
S&S, nice! Also amazing ships. As for the blooper sail, I don’t intend to carry that although I might regret it so there is a search out on the local EBay, let’s see.
As for reinforcement, might make sense. Intended use on my end is not the best of weathers so needs to stay there.
No clue if needed on you ship off course. Good luck in any case with the adjustment.
If you are going to add and additions point in the mast please know I have back stays to support.
@@SailingWindRose I probably never use blooper either, as it is used in addition to spinnaker, and I have not used spinnaker so far except at dock
Hoe bevalt de dyneema stag? Ik zit te twijfelen tussen dyneema en staal
Hi 112praktijken,
eerlijkheidshalve heb ik hem voornamelijk gebruikt in “opgeborgen” positie. En dat is mi de reden waarom ik zeker geen staal zou willen want dan moet je er redelijk spanning op zetten om klapperen te voorkomen. En aangezien hij bij het staande want opgeborgen is zou dat klapperen of spanning op de zaling zijn in mijn geval.
Ik heb hem wel laten maken zodat ik hem goed op spanning kan zetten en dat werkt prima volgens mij. Enige nadeel dat ik nu zie: het is wat dikker. Met name waar de splits van het oog zit gaan de leuvers er wat stroever overheen.
Succes met je keuze!
Hi
The main should have 4 reef points in my opinion.
Hi Thom,
I tend to Agree with you on that one. Might be an interesting question to ask if “my” sailmaker could create it.