I can still hear the sound of rainstorms in my ears from farming in Pashow Marshlands for hours during 75 era. Some things are better left in the past.
Gil is definitely another great aspect of the best MMO in history, FFXI. Crafting is another example of importance to an MMO. FFXI crafting was fantastic; crafting during specific times, or days or with specific materials, made it very unique... and on top of that, having a chance to get a +1 or +2 was addicting. Favorite game!
FFXI is special because if you don't want to be a useless party member and leech you need to slow down and farm. Which adds a whole new layer to the leveling experience. It makes it a journey, not just something you just bang out super fast to get to end game. This is even more true with your first job. It's a struggle keeping up with gear at the start. But once you have a job high enough to reliably farm gil, it becomes a lot easier, but that journey never disappears because it repeats with every job you level. Of course until you level them to all cap. But that can take years for most people.
I was dirt poor in XI for seven years. Once I started XIV it was a big drive for me to level all gatherers and crafters to be as self sufficient as possible.
I always loved being a taxi and teleporting people to the Craigs, have a show or movie on just randomly invite people taking their Gil and teleport away
I always taxi for people when I am in town and doing nothing. It may not be a lot. But it adds up over years. If you are not doing anything anyways, why not help someone out? I have probably made 10+ million just from taxing people for 1-5K a tele over the last 3-4 years. A lot of people get free teles too if I like them or they are repeat customers.
I remember farming Silk Thread and Yag necklaces for like 2 weeks straight to buy a full set of level 24 Chainmail before letting myself step foot in the Jungle when I was new. I eventually discovered mining Platinum Ore and desynthing Quad Backplates in Palborough was really profitable for a low level at the time and did that for a long time until I got high level enough for greener gil making pastures.
Heh, one of the key ways I used to make money when I was starting out was buying armor from this one vendor in Windurst, over by the docks with the spell vendors, and then selling them on the AH at a hiked up price. I guess a lot of people didn't know about this particular vendor or what he sold, so they'd buy it from me at an inflated price on the AH. Wasn't the most ethical thing to do I suppose, but it worked well in the beginning, along with selling moat carp.
Can't knock the hustle. If people are too lazy to do the leg work , make your bank. I made a lot doing this with regional vendors when beastmen controlled the territories I would sell their stuff expensive. lol
On everything sacred I promise you back in the 75 days my college roommates and myself + my little brother use to ALWAYS run BCNM 20 as blms in hopes of getting "Mannequin Hands" as a drop so we could put it in our bazaar and camp out in front of Jeuno during classes and hope somebody bought them and it was like Christmas day when I'd come home from class and see that my hands sold that gil was well spent on spells............. LONG LIVE JEUNO
@@Rem694u2 yeah Ni was a big money maker back then as well, I forget which one dropped Sleepga II but that spell was like the most expensive around the 75 era, I actually got my blm to 75 before getting it which technically would make sense in exp parties but still.
I remember back in the day on Odin server (Aht Urhgan was the latest expansion) I was a noob and I was farming Grain Seeds in front of Bastok from killing Walking Saplings and a stack of Grain Seeds (12 pieces) was selling in the AH easily for 18,000 - 22,000 gil! So even as a noob I was able to farm more then 100,000 gil whenever I needed it.
i always enjoyed picking up those game changing items and really feeling the difference in my character in ffxi back in the day. I havn't played since about 2007, going to dive back in with HXI in a few weeks but to this day the best part about saving up and getting those big items was after joining a party, and doing well for a few pulls then you see " has examined you". yep, i have those items buddy ;) you're welcome.
Many current mmo throw money at you. BDO gives you millions of silver for logging in lol. The real meat is buying stuff from their cash shop. many mmo moved from virtual currency to cash shops or gambling.
Money is something I learned to make while also getting Exp and other things. O.Kote is a great example, the Yagudo and Crabs have good drop rates for decent gil while also camping the NM in question. Another example would be, say, the Sahagin behind the gold beastcoin door can drop spells worth a lot of gil a piece but also some NMs spawn right there. I could go on, it's real useful info!
Oh man... I remember my very first character in FF11... I just leveled, sold EVERYTHING I had to afford upgraded gear... died my first time out... leveled down.... couldn’t use any of my gear haha.
Lol you remember doing EXP parties and leveling up and then you were like I gotta go. But lets kill a couple more so I can have a buffer, in case I die walking back to town.........
Nothing like a little tarutaru blm leveling to 75 all proud, change gear. Now new and improved ready to anything decided to go to the Gods and fight the damn turtle with a group.... everybody died de-level naked tarutaru in the heavens good times lmao.
I first became "rich" in game camping Goobue's for tree cuttings/moss. I remember goin drk/thf and outclaiming the RMT players. I did that for a month straight, and came out with millions! My friends then taught me how to "plant" them and turn them into tree saplings, which made even more $.. Good times!
You got the right idea. It takes some work to make gil in this game. I've been playing since 2007 and have farmed for all my crafts cuz it's cheaper, which means higher profit on the AH. 1 million for a piece of gear, pfffft, I've paid 30 to 50 million on single pieces and had to farm my ass off to get those items. I will admit to overnight fish hitting with multiple mules.... Until an update screwed my boy 🤬😞
Feels kind of weird saying this but I appreciated that gil was a challenge to get. I think modern mmos have gotten too endgame-centric. In XI, the leveling up process was not only leveling the job but also (as you indicated) getting the gear, leveling crafting, being able to buy something that made your character better. Yes getting the drop from an nm kill was great, but equally satisfying was finally being able to buy a piece of gear you've been trying to get. I told a friend of mine that what I miss in modern mmos is the wonder of the game, the feeling of accomplishment when you you reach a personal goal, and that the process of leveling is just as important as what you can do once you've capped the leveling process. Needless to say I'm talking about the 75 era. I have played recent retail XI and it's fun, but it's a different game, it's more like other mmos and I think that's a shame. I'm a big fan of horizontal progression and very few (if any) modern mmos embrace that concept.
Very true. But I do wonder, when some items a mob drops are worth 15g, or a quest gives you a reward of 1k gil (and it cost you 2k to travel there), maybe a cap on the top costs in the game. Is something really worth 9 million? Lu Shangs is worth 2 million. But something that you camp for, and fight, and get a drop, you could do that in 2 rl days? Lu Shangs takes at least a month, so the price is understandable. A 2 day camp for a drop from a mob, should not cost more. I would like to see a cap of 3 million. Unless quests and some other items start paying more.
@@Whistler-jx7pk You can run across caps on some of the private servers, but I think most companies that produce games let the market decide. Yeah you get some outrageously expensive items (I'm looking at you Kraken Club), but equally you can have something that's incredibly rare, but not very desirable. That will be relatively cheap and a hard sell. I guess what I'm saying is that it's very hard for a company to try and keep a market flatten when it's the players who are setting the prices.
@@Whistler-jx7pk Have you ever camped LoO for weeks only to get one claim and no drop? Some items are worth every penny 😊 Value is in the eye of the beholder
I say this all the time and response I get is that they have busier lives now but that was the beauty of it. You just get to your goals a little slower, the game doesn’t make it easier for everyone and miles stones become more significant.
One piece of gear that I farmed as much as I could with my personal sky ls back in the day was Byakko's Haidate. It never, ever dropped for me. Until yesterday. I saw someone selling the pop items in their bazaar, and I thought why not. Went up to sky, tried to figure out how to get to his island since I hadn't been there for years, and then finally fought him. Annnnnd, drop. I was so happy, even though none of my jobs are that low to use it. But mission accomplished.
Now that I've finished watching, my three gil-making memories of the 75-era are: 1. Silk thread farming at lower levels 2. Camping Argus in Maze of Shakhrami with two friends for 24 hours - we actually got the tag, the kill, and the Peacock Charm. Sold it for 9,000,000 gil on the AH and split it between the three of us. 3. The Waughroon Shrine Operation Desert Storm BCNM - I remember grouping up with people to do this BCNM and actually getting a venomous claw on my turn (and I'm pretty sure I decided to have a Scorpion Harness crafted with this instead of selling it). And great video! I share the sentiment of showing up to a party with all the best gear equipped. You could get a reputation for grouping based on how good your gear was!
Ah, back when Scorp Harness was the meta. That was quite some time ago. I scrimped and saved 5 mil for mine back in 2006, mostly off selling silent oils.
@@Nightweaver1 Lol, walking around in a Scorpion Harness was like being royalty. Then you had the select few strutting around in a Scorpion Harness +1. I want to say those sold for like 20-30mil+...
Man I remember back when I played XI in 2004, a repeatable quest on an airship out of Jeuno that was something like 500g every 15 minutes. I just did that until I had enough for the full Iron Musketeer's Cuirass Set and then just stopped playing.
Its been awhile since I played, this was in 75 days. I lvl'd alchemy to make crimson (somthing, lol I forgot) but when I actually made a +1, they sold for millions at a time, was a great money maker. Farming the ingredients was real time consuming though.
Always a pleasure to see Ifrit's Cauldron - I was an avid miner there, still know the place like the back of my hand. I enjoy the risk factor there that puts off the vast majority of players, losing time in the form of exp from dying whilst mining in a dangerous zone filled with magic agressive bombs and vampiric bats. Also, if you need tips on how to make gil on Eden, you don't need to make a whole video like this as a ruse to get people to give tips in comments! We're onto you! ;D Hahaha Great stuff as always buddy
Try flesheaters at night in the desert. They drop iron ore like 90% of the time. Farm the fire elementals while you're out there. Kill the spiders for webs in that same zone. Knowledge of the zones will help you a lot.
There are 2 times in XIV you have to buy gear 1. on a tank you're leveling when you're 55, 65, 75, and soon to be 85. your free poetics gear stops being effective to tank at that point. 2. raiding on savage the same week the savage raid comes out. crafted gear brings you to the new minimum item level to clear that savage raid. I agree to an extent about the gil grind, but it really just depends on the game. In XI because of how it is I'm expecting to need money for everything if I don't want a massive time sink. The MMO landscape has just changed over the years and losing lateral gear progression in favor of linear item levels has a lot to do with it. You can't get an overpowered level 35 pair of gloves that will last you till cap because they have to keep scaling the gear up constantly. You could get level 35 gloves that are item level 50, but that still has an objective lifespan on the gear. Man idk. MMOs just aren't designed to suck up all your free time any more and I sort of miss it but I also don't miss it at all. It's such a weird feeling.
Platinum Ruled Classic Everquest. Gear didnt have level restrictions and outside of raid gear was fully tradable (this changed later and level limitations were added), even gear from their HNM equivalent rare spawns. So you would tend to farm alot of money to buy gear, spells consumables, donating for teleports (a good way to make plat as well), etc.
I kinda miss the grind for gil. It's still there...but XIV has an astronomical emphasis on item level compared to old-school XI, where you could wear lvl 7 boots into high level because there was no item level. It was more about min/maxing your stats yourself rather than getting the best ilevel gear available. (Yeah, you got some stinkers when partying-but it really dumbed down the gear avenue.) Gil wise, I was a hoarder and made sure to lot on anything to potentially sell over time. There were a few NPC vendors I would buy from and resell on AH. Made a few pieces of furniture to sell, did some beastmen circle fights, etc. Towards the end of my time I just grew chocobo feed in my mog house and npc'd it for an easy 30k-70k every 4 or so days
On the one hand I miss the "good old days", but on the other hand, I really appreciate how much more chill things became, and I don't have to spend a ton of playtime on making money
The Gil grind was the best part! Had a 3 person group that owned a NM pop! The consumables drove the FF11 economy though, and that’s missing from other MMOs, Hunter ammo, Food, MP juices, ninja tools. The need for those consumables is what made things like fishing or farming cockatrice for their drops worth while!
@@Huntin4GamesChannel There were a few in Lufaise Meadows that the bots didn't camp so we could rotate through them. Padfoot and his Astal Ring and Megalobugard and his Tusk were what made it worth while! I never made it to level 75 after years of playing but I had several hundred million gil lol.
This was one of the things I loved the most about XI, once you'v made enough progress & want to switch it up you can always go out and make Gil, even a stack of Wild Onions are 30k Pheonix atm !! (I thought Ide make Saltenas and sell the extra mats / food etc!) Really enjoying your content am a Returnee after 7 Years !!! Wish I hadnt left so long But fully lovin it & thanks for your updates/thoughts really insightful with a balance of entertainment !!!
FFxi really makes you appreciate gear. i remember when i got my white mage af, i never took that off ! the same with my now obtained carbuncle hat. it is my PRECIOUS!
/me examines you. When you get a party invite and people look at what kind of gear you have on. It's always nice to have that HQ gear equipped. I would like to add, as a THF main.. what you did that week, was pretty much what I did the majority of the time of playing FFXI. I enjoy the grinding for gil, the farming NMS and finding new ways to make gil to get that HQ/rare equip you always wanted. I think the game would be boring if every casual player would be able to get the same stuff you work hard for. I was also moderately heavy into crafting. I was super enticed in how popular the Scorpion Harness (SH) was back in the day, I took bonecraft to 100, and leather to 60 so I could make my own SH+1 with my name on it. Also as a THF.. you usually had a lot of time on your hands while looking for party lol
I went with the mentality of "every penny counts" when playing this back in the day. I'd not ignore enemies that dropped items that could NPC for a little gil (100+) or sell on the AH for 1K+. I valued even getting the Orcish Axe from Ronfaure orcs while farming for fire crystals and whatever else. It was all about getting that Brigandine+1 armor, Emperor Hairpin, etc while leveling. At 75, same mentality, but bigger goals. Sha'ir Manteel was my proudest equip to farm for. Was any of it needed? Not even close. It certainly made me more attractive to invite for groups though and gave me a point of pride. Sadly, I still have that same "every penny counts" mentality with modern FFXI and uhh... it's a severe hindrance that I really need to break one day.
Having awesome gear means nothing if it is just thrown at you left and right In FFXI if you are wearing some kind of high ticket item like Emp Pin or Lizzy Boots, folks will know you worked your butt off for it either by camping the actual NM or grinding your way to being able to buy them. It makes them that much more special and impactful. Getting that "Whoa nice gear" /tell actually has some heft to it.
I agree 100% with you on this. The feeling of doing your best to help and/or compete because of the extra stats felt completely worthwhile. I was a major NM hunter back when I played in the 75 era. Once I hit level 40 on PLD and started needing more gil, I decided to level THF to fix that. Never looked back and became the first NA TH4 on my server. It was a nice feeling to be sought out like a mercenary for treasure hunter, but I spent most of my time on my own hunts lol.
I found a super niche gil farming method back in the day around 2006, I would farm the Hermit Rings from the worms in Dangruf Wadi, at the time they were worth 50k EACH, because the synthesis craft for it became eremites ring and the eremite's ring +1 was worth 1 million gil at the time. This was a level 20? ring where the +1 version gave 3 int total instead of 2.
You could do the same type of thing with the Ascetic's ring off carrion worms in King Ranperre's tomb. I remember farming Dodge Earrings off Ooze in Beadeaux. Slower drops, but larger rewards.
One of the things I remember the most from FFXI is how every day before school my friend and I would wake up really early, like 4AM, just running through Giddeus for beehive chips. I never felt like I had enough money and it always made me feel like I had something I needed to do. Time was money was time for sure.
I'm sitting on like 500+ million in liquid gil but I have nothing to spend it on because I already leveled every class to max and geared them all. The only thing I could spend it on is upgrading some of my pieces to +1 but that requires getting the abjurations again which is tough because of the long ass waiting list and it feels bad taking a second abjuration when people haven't even got their first yet.
@@fredsanford1437 I cannot sell the gil, that would get me in trouble or banned. I do however give stuff away regularly to new players in need. But never to people who ask for it. For example if I party with new people in the dunes, or qufim or any low level area I will always hand out the best possible foods to everyone or hook them up with +1 weapons or armors because it helps me too by speeding the party up and making it more efficient. Then they can use or sell the items themselves when they outgrow them for a little extra money to fund their future endeavors. I feel like giving expensive stuff away for free to people hurts their experience though. It robs them of the satisfaction of earning something themselves. I know I would never take things for free I didn't earn. Nothing beats that feeling of farming your ass off for weeks to earn your first SH+1 or Hauby+1. You proudly show it off because you earned it with a lot of hard work. If someone just handed me one I wouldn't care about it nearly as much. At least that is how I feel about it.
I am mixed here. As a Thief, I had some expensive gear to get (back in the day, Scorpion Harness and Blau Dolche were expensive as hell, along with the usual stuff like Sniper's Rings, Emperor's Hairpin and Leaping Boots.) But, I put in the work, and got them all. Once 99 cap came around, and all of that was not needed, I started losing interest. I took a lot of pride in my THF, I will always feel like I was the best on my server (I could outparse Black Belt MNK's on THF while also pulling) but once the economy changed, it did not feel the same. But, the lack of that grind was also a good thing, since FFXI was the grindiest of grinds. Making it more accessible was a good thing, and even though I put in the work for all of the good gear, doing away with the main gil grind allowed me to get my Mandau. I totally see the point that the gil grind was an important part of this game. I also kinda think it was a bit too much of a grind.
That's kind of what killed it for me too. I spent years farming and spend LS points to get the good stuff, soloing what I could and everytime a new level cap would come out, it would obsolesce something that I had spent massive amounts of time on and it would grate on me to no end.
Oh man gil was a separate grind, and what worked changed with the times. Here are some of the hustles I ran: - Moat Carp fishing in Rabao. There was a time when the tiny zone's oasis was filled with fishers, much more than the zone could handle. Stacks were going from anywhere from 10k - 20k on auction in their peak. - Mining. Usually a money maker but there were times where your returns were mediocre or your pickaxes would break quickly. I remember some lucky runs bringing back anywhere from 60-120k, with some terrible runs bringing back as little as 1-2k. - BCNM 30 runs. There was good money to be had if it was your Orb but you could always charge others to help with their attempts. - Teleport Taxi. Probably the easiest way to make money quick but having everyone 'ready to go' was always a challenge. Not something you can do for hours without going crazy, especially with others who were offering the same service. - Powerleveling / whmless low level parties. Who needs a healer inside the party when you could have a perfectly viable healer outside of the party? Things tend to die quicker when the whm is swapped out with another damage dealer. I'd ask people to pay 10k per person or what they could comfortably afford. Most Advanced jobs would pay the full 10k while other's would pay 500g (I'd believe them lol)
Another thing about EDEN is that they had a crash almost a year ago and everyone lost their gil. Til this day i still didn't get my new starts 60k gil back. They NEVER returned it.
@@Bewefau they never responded, i've been on the discord and on the forums. All that gil i was farming up at the time to lvl sub jobs and travel costs. when they wiped that i quit for quite a long time.
I always farmed Spook in Ronfaure’s Tomb for my gil in FFXI. Made several hundred thousand gil that way in a single sitting. Afforded me my Scorpion Harness for DRG, SMN gear, and PLD gear. :D
I was just thinking about this the other day. I love how this game has a full functioning economy and forces you to contribute in some way. And there are so many different ways you could do it. Every item in the game that drops is used for something, there are no trash items like in other games that are meant only to be vendored.
I mainly BST in the early days of FFxi, and my favorite thing to do was trying to find interesting ways(for myself) to make Gil. Some of my favorites were: 1) Farming Rattling Egg in Ifrit's Cauldron to spawn Tarasque. Could get an egg every 1-3 hours, and earn 400,000 - 900,000 gil. Was super chill, and easy to do as a BST, and no one ever went to that location, so it was basically always free. 2) Farming Gem of the West in Sky, by killing Despot. Wasn't the easiest, since you risked having it stolen during a bird switch if someone walked by or failing charm a couple times, but was always fun to do, and earned you some extra exp. I don't remember how much i earned from a kill, but the additional doll shards, and mercury definitely added up. Also it was just a thrill to kill as a BST. 3) Farming hakutaku eyes, individually, or as a cluster. I recall not having a lot of competition for these on my server, and you could farm up a bunch of eyes fairly easy, since you didn't have to worry about powerful magic killing you. The only problem was trying to get behind various doors in Sea Serpent Grotto. Grinding for gil was definitely one of my favorite things to do in the game. It always brought my to new and interesting locations, and forced my to really learn how to navigate the world, and explore locations most people steered cleared of.
Me and a few BST friends of mine used to merc Hakutaku for people as an easy way to make gil. We'd either do the fight if you had a cluster or we'd provide one and do the fight for extra money.
@@hiflyer000 Being a BST was the best for earning money And definitely doing Hakutaku was one of the best. Having a group of decent BSTs to kill the NM was so fun. Sure it was slower then a group, but gathering up a full raid to kill Hakutaku was time consuming, and paying a group of BSTs to kill it for you was a good option if you had the money to pay for it. There were so many services you could do for people if you had a group of BSTs XD(sadly my server only seemed to have like..... 10 total at 75 x.x)
Used to farm twincoons from Habetrot. Though it was a pain in the ass to camp against Deathknight cause he was also farming the gil to pay back his LS so he could finish his relic.
When I went back to retail I still camped my O kote and after one million spawns I finally got the gloves. I know they don’t mean anything anymore but the feeling I get from finally getting those gloves and putting them on again was worth the hours of time spent.
I did most of my farming in Dangruf Wadi during the 75 era. The worms dropped sulfur, zinc, copper, and flint. I could synth brass ingots and glass fibers or sell them all as is. The goblins there dropped decent amounts of gil, items, and magic scrolls that NPC for decent gil or on the AH if you were patient. The Geyser Lizard NM was usually up and the item it dropped NPCed for 4k gil. There were probably better farming spots but I liked this one because I never had any competition.
Watching your videos about FFXI always gets me really pumped up to play it! But.. when those free log in campaigns come around for retail.. by about the 3rd day in I start questioning why I'm playing lol. The grind eats at my soul, I dunno if I'll ever be able to play on a 75 era server and relive that intense grind again. Maybe someday, but we'll see.
If you play one, just do it casually. Huntin has been on Eden for a long ass time and he just does it for fun here and there and his highest in still only like 53 RDM. You don't have to kill yourself grinding the game out doing HNMs if you just don't have the time. Take it nice and slow and enjoy the journey. Don't feel obligated to play. Especially private servers. They are free so theres no reason to force yourself to play.
I lasted about 2 weeks on Eden before I said screw that insane grind and found a level 99 server to get my nostalgic fix. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to put myself through all that, while at the same time I look back so fondly on the whole experience. Right time right place I guess because I could never do that today.
@@Rem694u2 Or just most of us are adults now and don't have the time for it, and would rather spend our time more productively or doing something else lol
My money ventures throughout the ages: 1) Insect paste bazaar in WindWoods 2) Low-level spell smuggling from Jueno to starter cities (AHs were separate) 3) Copper Ingot AH sales from 3g Copper Ore 4) Mithkabob & Yag Drink sales 5) Abyssea cruor armor sales on AH 6 (Current)) Red Curry Buns, hoarding all the Dragon Meat on Sylph as it gets posted on AH.
I enjoyed it. The grind was part of what made FFXI great for me. You wanted HNM drops for crafting or awesome gear you had to work for it. Get the spawn time, log in and camp your mark, call your LS to get ready for pop and hope you were fast enough to pull. Also man if you didn't want to buy the O Kotes you could've hunted Mee Deggi the Punisher for the Rare/EX version and hoped you got lucky or asked a Friend/Merc TH3/4 THF to help you.
On the server I used to play on, myself and a friend cornered the dhamel hide market, we bought the stacks out of the AH and single sold each single for 5k each. Had 300k in a week
I'm grinding my weapons and gaming the system on Asura with Trusts. Cherukiki casts Regen, Haste, Protect, Shell, and Paralyze, and doesn't attack. Moogle follows Cherukiki around, giving an auto-refresh. So Cherukiki basically has an infinite MP pool. Then I use auto-run to follow the Balayangs in Fei Yin around while I hit them with the weakest weapon I can get in a given type. AFK the whole time. My bazaar message currently says "Don't mind me, I've just got an axe to grind with these bats"
meriphataud mountains OP is the best farm spot for a while. Flies for gausebit grass, list in singles on the auction house. If you're level 20ish you can solo xp there too. 30ish you can do buburimu peninsula Beach, leeches, sell to npc. Fastest money in those levels I believe.
Grinding and working towards something makes it much more rewarding. Gil becomes easier at higher levels in endgame and the LS can split the profits. Mining parties can be profitable. I've grinded in most zones to test and 60,000 Gil per hour is the benchmark. Anything higher is great for straight grind and selling to NPCs or AH. The rest comes from endgame, mining/HELM, etc. Combine it all together and it will add up. Peacock charm is my go-to neck piece on any server and the rest is a bonus. Focus on good gear for 1 job and have fun along the way! Merit parties endgame will make your character strong for replay value over gear as well :)
The grind for gil was great. It showed who cared about their job and who didn't. I play on eden a ton and have mined/farmed for all of my crafts/subs and gear and bought a peacock charm for 8 mil before they added the RMT update.
Ahhh yes. The need for gil. I remember a long time ago I was just farming random crap. I forgot where exactly but i think it was a outdoor zone outside of windurst with lots of Yagudo. And one of the NM's drops some kinda Summoner/Beastmaster staff. But anywho I was just NPC'ing a all the junk I collected and I noticed one of them was a magic scroll and it would sell to the npc for like 4k. I was like WTF!!! 4k? So then I would just go out there and hunt specifically for those scrolls. I ended up telling LS mate about it and he came out there with me to farm. We were like OH SNAP! We told one other friend of ours and we all kept the info to ourselves and just farmed the area every day. We made a lot of money with that.
I must say, that is exactly the way i feel. Gil, doesn't matter where you earn it, as long as you are having fun and think that is meaningful for something on the foreseeable future of your character, like upgrading basic stuff, then shift to farm items to sell and at the same time progressing on the mastery system, testing new classes. It all goes around gil, its very rewarding when you put effort even knowing you could lack the coin for it sometime and then you set a goal to earn it back and everything falls back into place, its fun to have a variety of things to choose and do that makes the game even more pleasant, because the endgame could be the old get better and fight bigger mobs or could be im gonna stroll around to test mobs for drops, try a lifeskill and not just farm for better gear because its required, its more about the experience then it is the mobs and quests, everyday is a different goal and quest set by you. FFXI is a unique game on that part. Love the game and your content is nostalgic! Much praise @huntin4games
You make a lot of great points. I played from 2005-2006, and then again on a new character in 2013-2014... Here's what I think: The game was much more fun and rewarding in 2005. I remember the leaping boots and emperor's hairpin NM just went to Rare/Ex drops, and I spent the time getting both drops. I leveled cooking to 100 and used that as my main money-maker, even though my highest job only ever got to level 47. There was a definite pride in having geared your job properly and I took the time to do so. That being said, this was also the reason I quit the game at the time. I simply didn't have the time to gear the jobs the way I wanted to and couldn't keep up with the money grind. However, my best memories of FFXI were during this time, and part of me wishes I had kept playing and maybe forked up some $$ to buy gil. I know there was a huge stigma against it for good reason, but maybe that would have enabled me to keep playing the game with less time on my hands. In 2013-2014, I started over because I learned that much of the time-consuming content had been altered so that the game was more approachable for an average person. I got 5 jobs to level 99 and had tons of fun (SMN, COR, THF, RNG, NIN). It was much easier to gear up the jobs at this stage, all of my jobs had iLVL 119 weapons/armor, but the missions at the time tended to favor either my COR or RNG so that was most of what I could play. At that point in the game, it was pretty impossible to get much going outside of linkshell players, and shouts were almost non-existent. At this point, the grind was more about finding the people to do the content, vs grinding to get gear and easily finding people to do things with. Anyways, this is my favorite game of all time, and I miss not being able to play anymore! Love your videos for the nostalgia.
I played FF11 from its release in NA until part of Aht Urgan. The amount of gil required to get even decent gear was insane. You couldn't acquire gear except by buying it off the AH, or spending insane time (and gil!) crafting. I remember grinding for hours and hours and hours just to afford a Haubergeon just so I could hope to hit something as I leveled in the 60s. My drk couldnt get an xp party if I didn't have the right gear, I'd be useless. At the time it was a very oppressive and restrictive system. If you didn't have the time to grind gil, or if you didn't get lucky with an NM drop, you'd be stuck and couldnt progress. I remember playing WoW and being blown away at the fact I could get good gear from drops, quests and dungeons instead of having to grind money for a week.
I would spend weeks grinding away in Rollenberry Fields farming crawler silks...thf boomerang w/ rabbits foot and four leaf clover. Who knows if they helped but it’s how I made cash. That and dysynthing yag necklaces.
I had billions of gil. Sure farmed some high end items, but in my day, i enjoyed the thrill of moving scarce items from one server to another. At times like delve, players on Ashura would have tons of clear items for say 40 to 60m, but servers like rag had none. So i wpuld buy and sell for say 120m. Finding items and buyers was fun. All because i have mules server hop. Made many friends that way.
I remember farming for DAYS back in the day for my Ninja tools and equipment. I had a 60THF that I would use to NM hunt too. But mostly I'd farm Blood, and Crawler Silk.
Davoi is a good npc farm. The guns from firebelchers are worth 10k and every piece of armor from orcs are 1.5k. plus spell scrolls and gold masks from troopers.
Haven't played XI since 2013, but I still remember my "secret" money maker: Mythril Picks. On my server, I could often buy/craft the materials to make them for ~3-4000g, and the Picks sold to NPCs for ~7000g each. All I was ever limited by was how much AH/Bazaars had in stock each day.
NPCing items in general or Mythril Picks specifically? I'm sure after nearly 8 years, someone else was bound to figure that one out eventually. Most all of XI's gil exploits when I played were about NPCing things for profit.
@@Mirvana Mythril picks specifically. there was a player who went around to all private servers and all he did all day was craft mythril picks and NPC them breaking the economy in the process, he was kinda infamous.
@@Jambara Lmao, well it wasn't me I promise lol. I didn't find it out until well after our economy was already destroyed by chocoblinkers, so I doubt I had much economic impact on Sylph lol.
The hting that was frustrating was every time there was a decent way to sell items to NPCs for some gil, they would patch it out. I do think that money is more valuable as a resource in FFXI than other MMOs and that can be a good thing
My main money making activity, from level 50-75 probably, was hunting tigers in Batalia Downs to turn in the fangs in Sand'Oria. When elemental staves were new I farmed for MONTHS to afford ice and dark... then the prices crashed. I was broken.
Heya Huntin, Always enjoy your videos and glad to see you're still on Eden. As always if you ever need anything feel free to ask. Sidenote to anyone who reads this comment, if you play on Eden or may play it in the near future, first off welcome, second I highly recommend reading the rules before play!
I played as a Drk back in 2002-2006? I think. Anyway, I still remember my gil grind saving for my haubergeon, a must for any Drk. It was like 2 mil when I got it before a massive inflation spike due to rmt's, then when I hit 69 I sold it for 8 mil to buy a hauberk for like 6 mil or so. Optical Hat was a must have as well. I had to buy all the eyes and pay an Alchemist(I think) to make the eye cluster. I farmed up so much silk thread and tree saplings to gradually buy all the mats, and got the hat with a random group once I had my cluster. The eyes seemed plentiful, as I've noticed them in many bazaars, so for me it was probably easier to buy the eyes as I did than hunt the nm's for each. I don't remember how much it cost. I just remember so much of my play time was consumed with farming and becoming very familiar with the surrounding environments and finding random nm spawns but not getting any drops or being too low level to attempt solo.
The grind for Gil was indeed painful, but a necessity for that extremely unique economy and gear structure that FFXI had. I recall, how I did also farm 12stack Beehive Chips, for hours and hours and I made my first 100k, and I did so, because back when I just started (in Windurst) I was browsing the Auction House there, and someone had listed something called a *'Mana Tunic'* for 100k, and the item description read: [RECOVER MP] and I was _"(Gaaaasp), Yo I need to get this for mah girl... She's gonna be out there in the field, running low on MP and she can use this and recover _*_(in my mind: ALL)_*_ her MP and keep going! She'll love it!!"._ So I made my 100k, from Beehive Chips, bought the Mana Tunic. We were out leveling and she was getting low on MP and told her to try and use it, so she did!... aaand it farted out like... 30-something MP... It's like, Oh cool... I can cast an extra Cure II now... Nice one, Square Enix. 😂 Plus it had a 10min re-use time with a limited 30 charges, so I may as well have spent the Gil on hundreds of Ethers and tossed her a couple between fights. Want to impress a MP-spending girl? Treat her to some fancy *Mulsum* and maybe a few *Yag. Drinks~* 🍾
My buddy and I camped NMs for money, split every drop 50/50. Huu Mjuu the Torrent was our go-to. That and fishing the ponds in the desert was how I made gil.
good talk. i think that square needs to allow players to sell more items at once on the AH. the AH is crashed because demands have shifted and there are way less players on now than when the AH was optimized. if players could sell maybe 14 or 21 items at a time instead of 7 at a time i think the market would come back to life and gil would have more purpose again. because people could have space to sell more drops like lvl 70-90 gear, crafted items, and lesser drops instead of chucking them since your 7 slots are occupied by things that sell for more.
I feel like in FFXI I like the grind for money on physical jobs. SAM/DRK/PLD were always super epic for me to get that one piece of gear i wanted/needed. Back when a Hauby was 1.2mil on Ramuh, i earned that the slowest way possible but i felt so much more accomplished when i got it. Mage’s i always hated grinding gil for. Pretty much a pseudo level cap if you didn’t have certain spells in my experience. In summary, I don’t mind farming gil for gear upgrades, spells are a drag though if you’re ONLY a mage and don’t have a farming job leveled.
The last time I played this, you could make extremely easy gil power leveling people. Just take your best job to zi-tah dark during "gain experience" event and for the while that it is up, you just one shot every creature you come across. This in turn gets you a special currency that lets you buy some vendible items you just vender trash. Sure the special events gave far more gil when you sold it on the AH, but that gain experience event was a twice daily occurance.... or was it twice weekly? It's been 6-7 years. That being said, killing the avatars was nice to do, it just had a smaller gil amount. If you are still playing or play again, just go merit hunting on "gain experience". It will most likely net you more gold than you ever had.
It's very simple - I see a new Huntin 4 Games upload, I drop everything I'm doing to watch.
True! Those vids make me feel ALIVEEEEEEE!
100% agree!
Maybe the real gil was the friends we made along the way.
I can still hear the sound of rainstorms in my ears from farming in Pashow Marshlands for hours during 75 era. Some things are better left in the past.
Jesus I spent a lot of time there farming leeches on retail when I was new. The bloody bolt crafters loved me. lol
Gil is definitely another great aspect of the best MMO in history, FFXI. Crafting is another example of importance to an MMO. FFXI crafting was fantastic; crafting during specific times, or days or with specific materials, made it very unique... and on top of that, having a chance to get a +1 or +2 was addicting. Favorite game!
FFXI is special because if you don't want to be a useless party member and leech you need to slow down and farm. Which adds a whole new layer to the leveling experience. It makes it a journey, not just something you just bang out super fast to get to end game. This is even more true with your first job. It's a struggle keeping up with gear at the start. But once you have a job high enough to reliably farm gil, it becomes a lot easier, but that journey never disappears because it repeats with every job you level. Of course until you level them to all cap. But that can take years for most people.
I was dirt poor in XI for seven years. Once I started XIV it was a big drive for me to level all gatherers and crafters to be as self sufficient as possible.
I always loved being a taxi and teleporting people to the Craigs, have a show or movie on just randomly invite people taking their Gil and teleport away
I couldn’t be a taxi.
It was just so slow.
And then you’ll get people who say “one second, I’ll be right there” 🤣
#noPatience
I did that too lol
I always taxi for people when I am in town and doing nothing. It may not be a lot. But it adds up over years. If you are not doing anything anyways, why not help someone out? I have probably made 10+ million just from taxing people for 1-5K a tele over the last 3-4 years. A lot of people get free teles too if I like them or they are repeat customers.
That was one reason I leveled WHM, I made anywhere from 800 to 5000 gil per tele.
I remember farming Silk Thread and Yag necklaces for like 2 weeks straight to buy a full set of level 24 Chainmail before letting myself step foot in the Jungle when I was new. I eventually discovered mining Platinum Ore and desynthing Quad Backplates in Palborough was really profitable for a low level at the time and did that for a long time until I got high level enough for greener gil making pastures.
Heh, one of the key ways I used to make money when I was starting out was buying armor from this one vendor in Windurst, over by the docks with the spell vendors, and then selling them on the AH at a hiked up price. I guess a lot of people didn't know about this particular vendor or what he sold, so they'd buy it from me at an inflated price on the AH. Wasn't the most ethical thing to do I suppose, but it worked well in the beginning, along with selling moat carp.
Lol whatever is clever.
Some of your armor buyers probably never been to Windy... win/win 🤪
Can't knock the hustle. If people are too lazy to do the leg work , make your bank. I made a lot doing this with regional vendors when beastmen controlled the territories I would sell their stuff expensive. lol
Newly subbed to to FF11, thanks for the YEARS of useful content to support my journey.
On everything sacred I promise you back in the 75 days my college roommates and myself + my little brother use to ALWAYS run BCNM 20 as blms in hopes of getting "Mannequin Hands" as a drop so we could put it in our bazaar and camp out in front of Jeuno during classes and hope somebody bought them and it was like Christmas day when I'd come home from class and see that my hands sold that gil was well spent on spells............. LONG LIVE JEUNO
we used to do one for the mannequin head! Shooting fish haha, huge money maker
Yeah those were a decent money maker. I usually was doing under observations for PCC and Ni scrolls though.
Garrisons were great at gathering as well and had good drops.
Seemed like we were the only group that was ever doing them.
@@Rem694u2 yeah Ni was a big money maker back then as well, I forget which one dropped Sleepga II but that spell was like the most expensive around the 75 era, I actually got my blm to 75 before getting it which technically would make sense in exp parties but still.
The noise you made at 0:16 is a sadly familiar noise every time i check the AH.
I remember upgrading from Noble's to Aristocrat's cloak just by doing teleports/farming bird blood. Real pain on 75 times,but effective.
Made my first "fortune" doing teleports and D2s
I remember back in the day on Odin server (Aht Urhgan was the latest expansion) I was a noob and I was farming Grain Seeds in front of Bastok from killing Walking Saplings and a stack of Grain Seeds (12 pieces) was selling in the AH easily for 18,000 - 22,000 gil! So even as a noob I was able to farm more then 100,000 gil whenever I needed it.
This is actually one of the downsides of an auction house system in my opinion. Kind of breaks the money game.
i always enjoyed picking up those game changing items and really feeling the difference in my character in ffxi back in the day. I havn't played since about 2007, going to dive back in with HXI in a few weeks but to this day the best part about saving up and getting those big items was after joining a party, and doing well for a few pulls then you see " has examined you". yep, i have those items buddy ;) you're welcome.
It's like listening to myself talking about the game.
I remember farming elementals in Delks tower for my twin sniper rings.
Oh you sold crystals to buy them? I camped stroper chyme for archer's ring and had them crafted.
Many current mmo throw money at you.
BDO gives you millions of silver for logging in lol.
The real meat is buying stuff from their cash shop. many mmo moved from virtual currency to cash shops or gambling.
Making Gil in Eden:
1. Fire crystals.
2. Level fishing.
hahah, patience is the real key here
I second this. Just got my lu shang's. The grind is real
@@aaronduboise5277 congratulations 👏
Money is something I learned to make while also getting Exp and other things. O.Kote is a great example, the Yagudo and Crabs have good drop rates for decent gil while also camping the NM in question. Another example would be, say, the Sahagin behind the gold beastcoin door can drop spells worth a lot of gil a piece but also some NMs spawn right there. I could go on, it's real useful info!
Oh man... I remember my very first character in FF11... I just leveled, sold EVERYTHING I had to afford upgraded gear... died my first time out... leveled down.... couldn’t use any of my gear haha.
Happened to me as well😭😭😂😂
Lol you remember doing EXP parties and leveling up and then you were like I gotta go. But lets kill a couple more so I can have a buffer, in case I die walking back to town.........
Nothing like a little tarutaru blm leveling to 75 all proud, change gear. Now new and improved ready to anything decided to go to the Gods and fight the damn turtle with a group.... everybody died de-level naked tarutaru in the heavens good times lmao.
Yup that happens!
I first became "rich" in game camping Goobue's for tree cuttings/moss. I remember goin drk/thf and outclaiming the RMT players. I did that for a month straight, and came out with millions! My friends then taught me how to "plant" them and turn them into tree saplings, which made even more $.. Good times!
You got the right idea. It takes some work to make gil in this game. I've been playing since 2007 and have farmed for all my crafts cuz it's cheaper, which means higher profit on the AH.
1 million for a piece of gear, pfffft, I've paid 30 to 50 million on single pieces and had to farm my ass off to get those items. I will admit to overnight fish hitting with multiple mules.... Until an update screwed my boy 🤬😞
HA! I had 7 chars for planting for elemental ores. That was a pain in the ass.
You are a gem to Vana'Diel
the more people willing to try it, the better!
Feels kind of weird saying this but I appreciated that gil was a challenge to get. I think modern mmos have gotten too endgame-centric. In XI, the leveling up process was not only leveling the job but also (as you indicated) getting the gear, leveling crafting, being able to buy something that made your character better. Yes getting the drop from an nm kill was great, but equally satisfying was finally being able to buy a piece of gear you've been trying to get. I told a friend of mine that what I miss in modern mmos is the wonder of the game, the feeling of accomplishment when you you reach a personal goal, and that the process of leveling is just as important as what you can do once you've capped the leveling process. Needless to say I'm talking about the 75 era. I have played recent retail XI and it's fun, but it's a different game, it's more like other mmos and I think that's a shame. I'm a big fan of horizontal progression and very few (if any) modern mmos embrace that concept.
right!? Loved it!
Very true. But I do wonder, when some items a mob drops are worth 15g, or a quest gives you a reward of 1k gil (and it cost you 2k to travel there), maybe a cap on the top costs in the game. Is something really worth 9 million? Lu Shangs is worth 2 million. But something that you camp for, and fight, and get a drop, you could do that in 2 rl days? Lu Shangs takes at least a month, so the price is understandable. A 2 day camp for a drop from a mob, should not cost more. I would like to see a cap of 3 million. Unless quests and some other items start paying more.
@@Whistler-jx7pk You can run across caps on some of the private servers, but I think most companies that produce games let the market decide. Yeah you get some outrageously expensive items (I'm looking at you Kraken Club), but equally you can have something that's incredibly rare, but not very desirable. That will be relatively cheap and a hard sell. I guess what I'm saying is that it's very hard for a company to try and keep a market flatten when it's the players who are setting the prices.
@@Whistler-jx7pk
Have you ever camped LoO for weeks only to get one claim and no drop?
Some items are worth every penny 😊
Value is in the eye of the beholder
I say this all the time and response I get is that they have busier lives now but that was the beauty of it. You just get to your goals a little slower, the game doesn’t make it easier for everyone and miles stones become more significant.
One piece of gear that I farmed as much as I could with my personal sky ls back in the day was Byakko's Haidate. It never, ever dropped for me. Until yesterday. I saw someone selling the pop items in their bazaar, and I thought why not. Went up to sky, tried to figure out how to get to his island since I hadn't been there for years, and then finally fought him. Annnnnd, drop. I was so happy, even though none of my jobs are that low to use it. But mission accomplished.
Nice. Better late than never
Now that I've finished watching, my three gil-making memories of the 75-era are:
1. Silk thread farming at lower levels
2. Camping Argus in Maze of Shakhrami with two friends for 24 hours - we actually got the tag, the kill, and the Peacock Charm. Sold it for 9,000,000 gil on the AH and split it between the three of us.
3. The Waughroon Shrine Operation Desert Storm BCNM - I remember grouping up with people to do this BCNM and actually getting a venomous claw on my turn (and I'm pretty sure I decided to have a Scorpion Harness crafted with this instead of selling it).
And great video! I share the sentiment of showing up to a party with all the best gear equipped. You could get a reputation for grouping based on how good your gear was!
omg Operation Desert Swarm, that should be a video all to itself
Ah, back when Scorp Harness was the meta. That was quite some time ago. I scrimped and saved 5 mil for mine back in 2006, mostly off selling silent oils.
@@Nightweaver1 Lol, walking around in a Scorpion Harness was like being royalty. Then you had the select few strutting around in a Scorpion Harness +1. I want to say those sold for like 20-30mil+...
The economic struggle is definitely one of the many things that make the ffxi experience unique and immersive. Great vid!
Man I remember back when I played XI in 2004, a repeatable quest on an airship out of Jeuno that was something like 500g every 15 minutes. I just did that until I had enough for the full Iron Musketeer's Cuirass Set and then just stopped playing.
That’s a hell of an accurate memory you have... you shouldn’t have quit 🤪
@@fredsanford1437 When you spend a certain amount of your life doing the same thing every 15 minutes it kinda sticks with you.
Why would you do that when you could kill a level 20 something leech for bird blood and get more gil in a single kill because they usually drop 1-3.
Its been awhile since I played, this was in 75 days. I lvl'd alchemy to make crimson (somthing, lol I forgot) but when I actually made a +1, they sold for millions at a time, was a great money maker. Farming the ingredients was real time consuming though.
Probably Crimson Cuisses for W-legs.
@@Rem694u2 Yep, that was it!
11 always seemed to have a good separation of time for me and those kinds of good items so I always love grinding for the gil
Always a pleasure to see Ifrit's Cauldron - I was an avid miner there, still know the place like the back of my hand. I enjoy the risk factor there that puts off the vast majority of players, losing time in the form of exp from dying whilst mining in a dangerous zone filled with magic agressive bombs and vampiric bats.
Also, if you need tips on how to make gil on Eden, you don't need to make a whole video like this as a ruse to get people to give tips in comments! We're onto you! ;D Hahaha
Great stuff as always buddy
“What’s everyone’s favorite tip for making Gil, be specific, name names”
🤣🤣🤣
Try flesheaters at night in the desert. They drop iron ore like 90% of the time. Farm the fire elementals while you're out there. Kill the spiders for webs in that same zone. Knowledge of the zones will help you a lot.
I used to /dig in the desert while LFG with my lol SAM
I spent half my life farming beechips, silk, and onions....
@@mmq9886 i tried that as well. When i played retail in the hayday of the game it was overly contested. This game pushed a lot of peoples buttons lol
There are 2 times in XIV you have to buy gear
1. on a tank you're leveling when you're 55, 65, 75, and soon to be 85. your free poetics gear stops being effective to tank at that point.
2. raiding on savage the same week the savage raid comes out. crafted gear brings you to the new minimum item level to clear that savage raid.
I agree to an extent about the gil grind, but it really just depends on the game. In XI because of how it is I'm expecting to need money for everything if I don't want a massive time sink. The MMO landscape has just changed over the years and losing lateral gear progression in favor of linear item levels has a lot to do with it. You can't get an overpowered level 35 pair of gloves that will last you till cap because they have to keep scaling the gear up constantly. You could get level 35 gloves that are item level 50, but that still has an objective lifespan on the gear.
Man idk. MMOs just aren't designed to suck up all your free time any more and I sort of miss it but I also don't miss it at all. It's such a weird feeling.
Rabao + Halcyon rod + sinking minnow = Rusty caps. AH for about 2k each, a nice alternative to moat carps.
Smith them into padded caps? I forget the name, they would vendor for $$
Platinum Ruled Classic Everquest. Gear didnt have level restrictions and outside of raid gear was fully tradable (this changed later and level limitations were added), even gear from their HNM equivalent rare spawns. So you would tend to farm alot of money to buy gear, spells consumables, donating for teleports (a good way to make plat as well), etc.
Not gonna lie its an exceptionally well devised system, so agitating but it breaths a different "feel" of what a game even is
yea, won't find an MMO like this one.
I kinda miss the grind for gil. It's still there...but XIV has an astronomical emphasis on item level compared to old-school XI, where you could wear lvl 7 boots into high level because there was no item level. It was more about min/maxing your stats yourself rather than getting the best ilevel gear available. (Yeah, you got some stinkers when partying-but it really dumbed down the gear avenue.)
Gil wise, I was a hoarder and made sure to lot on anything to potentially sell over time. There were a few NPC vendors I would buy from and resell on AH. Made a few pieces of furniture to sell, did some beastmen circle fights, etc. Towards the end of my time I just grew chocobo feed in my mog house and npc'd it for an easy 30k-70k every 4 or so days
On the one hand I miss the "good old days", but on the other hand, I really appreciate how much more chill things became, and I don't have to spend a ton of playtime on making money
The Gil grind was the best part! Had a 3 person group that owned a NM pop!
The consumables drove the FF11 economy though, and that’s missing from other MMOs, Hunter ammo, Food, MP juices, ninja tools. The need for those consumables is what made things like fishing or farming cockatrice for their drops worth while!
awesome! I didn't do group NM hunts very awesome, what were you guys after?
@@Huntin4GamesChannel There were a few in Lufaise Meadows that the bots didn't camp so we could rotate through them. Padfoot and his Astal Ring and Megalobugard and his Tusk were what made it worth while! I never made it to level 75 after years of playing but I had several hundred million gil lol.
This was one of the things I loved the most about XI, once you'v made enough progress & want to switch it up you can always go out and make Gil, even a stack of Wild Onions are 30k Pheonix atm !! (I thought Ide make Saltenas and sell the extra mats / food etc!) Really enjoying your content am a Returnee after 7 Years !!! Wish I hadnt left so long But fully lovin it & thanks for your updates/thoughts really insightful with a balance of entertainment !!!
glad you've been enjoyin it again!
FFxi really makes you appreciate gear. i remember when i got my white mage af, i never took that off ! the same with my now obtained carbuncle hat. it is my PRECIOUS!
/me examines you. When you get a party invite and people look at what kind of gear you have on. It's always nice to have that HQ gear equipped. I would like to add, as a THF main.. what you did that week, was pretty much what I did the majority of the time of playing FFXI. I enjoy the grinding for gil, the farming NMS and finding new ways to make gil to get that HQ/rare equip you always wanted. I think the game would be boring if every casual player would be able to get the same stuff you work hard for. I was also moderately heavy into crafting. I was super enticed in how popular the Scorpion Harness (SH) was back in the day, I took bonecraft to 100, and leather to 60 so I could make my own SH+1 with my name on it. Also as a THF.. you usually had a lot of time on your hands while looking for party lol
Just bought my Hauberk today, I feel you, 700k just gone, my pockets hurt.
I went with the mentality of "every penny counts" when playing this back in the day. I'd not ignore enemies that dropped items that could NPC for a little gil (100+) or sell on the AH for 1K+. I valued even getting the Orcish Axe from Ronfaure orcs while farming for fire crystals and whatever else. It was all about getting that Brigandine+1 armor, Emperor Hairpin, etc while leveling. At 75, same mentality, but bigger goals. Sha'ir Manteel was my proudest equip to farm for. Was any of it needed? Not even close. It certainly made me more attractive to invite for groups though and gave me a point of pride.
Sadly, I still have that same "every penny counts" mentality with modern FFXI and uhh... it's a severe hindrance that I really need to break one day.
Having awesome gear means nothing if it is just thrown at you left and right In FFXI if you are wearing some kind of high ticket item like Emp Pin or Lizzy Boots, folks will know you worked your butt off for it either by camping the actual NM or grinding your way to being able to buy them. It makes them that much more special and impactful. Getting that "Whoa nice gear" /tell actually has some heft to it.
I agree 100% with you on this. The feeling of doing your best to help and/or compete because of the extra stats felt completely worthwhile. I was a major NM hunter back when I played in the 75 era. Once I hit level 40 on PLD and started needing more gil, I decided to level THF to fix that. Never looked back and became the first NA TH4 on my server. It was a nice feeling to be sought out like a mercenary for treasure hunter, but I spent most of my time on my own hunts lol.
I found a super niche gil farming method back in the day around 2006, I would farm the Hermit Rings from the worms in Dangruf Wadi, at the time they were worth 50k EACH, because the synthesis craft for it became eremites ring and the eremite's ring +1 was worth 1 million gil at the time. This was a level 20? ring where the +1 version gave 3 int total instead of 2.
You could do the same type of thing with the Ascetic's ring off carrion worms in King Ranperre's tomb. I remember farming Dodge Earrings off Ooze in Beadeaux. Slower drops, but larger rewards.
One of the things I remember the most from FFXI is how every day before school my friend and I would wake up really early, like 4AM, just running through Giddeus for beehive chips. I never felt like I had enough money and it always made me feel like I had something I needed to do. Time was money was time for sure.
I'm sitting on like 500+ million in liquid gil but I have nothing to spend it on because I already leveled every class to max and geared them all. The only thing I could spend it on is upgrading some of my pieces to +1 but that requires getting the abjurations again which is tough because of the long ass waiting list and it feels bad taking a second abjuration when people haven't even got their first yet.
Sell the Gil and donate the money, or donate to a player in-game 😊
@@fredsanford1437 I cannot sell the gil, that would get me in trouble or banned. I do however give stuff away regularly to new players in need. But never to people who ask for it. For example if I party with new people in the dunes, or qufim or any low level area I will always hand out the best possible foods to everyone or hook them up with +1 weapons or armors because it helps me too by speeding the party up and making it more efficient. Then they can use or sell the items themselves when they outgrow them for a little extra money to fund their future endeavors. I feel like giving expensive stuff away for free to people hurts their experience though. It robs them of the satisfaction of earning something themselves. I know I would never take things for free I didn't earn. Nothing beats that feeling of farming your ass off for weeks to earn your first SH+1 or Hauby+1. You proudly show it off because you earned it with a lot of hard work. If someone just handed me one I wouldn't care about it nearly as much. At least that is how I feel about it.
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Strong agree with “robbing of satisfaction” 😊
I am mixed here. As a Thief, I had some expensive gear to get (back in the day, Scorpion Harness and Blau Dolche were expensive as hell, along with the usual stuff like Sniper's Rings, Emperor's Hairpin and Leaping Boots.)
But, I put in the work, and got them all. Once 99 cap came around, and all of that was not needed, I started losing interest. I took a lot of pride in my THF, I will always feel like I was the best on my server (I could outparse Black Belt MNK's on THF while also pulling) but once the economy changed, it did not feel the same.
But, the lack of that grind was also a good thing, since FFXI was the grindiest of grinds. Making it more accessible was a good thing, and even though I put in the work for all of the good gear, doing away with the main gil grind allowed me to get my Mandau.
I totally see the point that the gil grind was an important part of this game. I also kinda think it was a bit too much of a grind.
That's kind of what killed it for me too. I spent years farming and spend LS points to get the good stuff, soloing what I could and everytime a new level cap would come out, it would obsolesce something that I had spent massive amounts of time on and it would grate on me to no end.
Oh man gil was a separate grind, and what worked changed with the times. Here are some of the hustles I ran:
- Moat Carp fishing in Rabao. There was a time when the tiny zone's oasis was filled with fishers, much more than the zone could handle. Stacks were going from anywhere from 10k - 20k on auction in their peak.
- Mining. Usually a money maker but there were times where your returns were mediocre or your pickaxes would break quickly. I remember some lucky runs bringing back anywhere from 60-120k, with some terrible runs bringing back as little as 1-2k.
- BCNM 30 runs. There was good money to be had if it was your Orb but you could always charge others to help with their attempts.
- Teleport Taxi. Probably the easiest way to make money quick but having everyone 'ready to go' was always a challenge. Not something you can do for hours without going crazy, especially with others who were offering the same service.
- Powerleveling / whmless low level parties. Who needs a healer inside the party when you could have a perfectly viable healer outside of the party? Things tend to die quicker when the whm is swapped out with another damage dealer. I'd ask people to pay 10k per person or what they could comfortably afford. Most Advanced jobs would pay the full 10k while other's would pay 500g (I'd believe them lol)
Another thing about EDEN is that they had a crash almost a year ago and everyone lost their gil. Til this day i still didn't get my new starts 60k gil back. They NEVER returned it.
Oomph
you can see if they can reset your char and get your money back.
That sucks, that never happened to me. But I feel your pain.
@@Bewefau they never responded, i've been on the discord and on the forums. All that gil i was farming up at the time to lvl sub jobs and travel costs.
when they wiped that i quit for quite a long time.
I always farmed Spook in Ronfaure’s Tomb for my gil in FFXI. Made several hundred thousand gil that way in a single sitting. Afforded me my Scorpion Harness for DRG, SMN gear, and PLD gear. :D
That was a good one if the market wasnt over saturated and you didnt have any competition. Easy camp and you can just AFK during the day time. lol
The beginning was like Hank Hill checking the AH
How do you know about my ah checking habits? Also buy my bolts. I'm leveling woodcraft and broke as hell
I was just thinking about this the other day. I love how this game has a full functioning economy and forces you to contribute in some way. And there are so many different ways you could do it. Every item in the game that drops is used for something, there are no trash items like in other games that are meant only to be vendored.
dude this is awesome.. guy is living my life back in 2004-2010.
I mainly BST in the early days of FFxi, and my favorite thing to do was trying to find interesting ways(for myself) to make Gil.
Some of my favorites were:
1) Farming Rattling Egg in Ifrit's Cauldron to spawn Tarasque. Could get an egg every 1-3 hours, and earn 400,000 - 900,000 gil. Was super chill, and easy to do as a BST, and no one ever went to that location, so it was basically always free.
2) Farming Gem of the West in Sky, by killing Despot. Wasn't the easiest, since you risked having it stolen during a bird switch if someone walked by or failing charm a couple times, but was always fun to do, and earned you some extra exp. I don't remember how much i earned from a kill, but the additional doll shards, and mercury definitely added up. Also it was just a thrill to kill as a BST.
3) Farming hakutaku eyes, individually, or as a cluster. I recall not having a lot of competition for these on my server, and you could farm up a bunch of eyes fairly easy, since you didn't have to worry about powerful magic killing you. The only problem was trying to get behind various doors in Sea Serpent Grotto.
Grinding for gil was definitely one of my favorite things to do in the game. It always brought my to new and interesting locations, and forced my to really learn how to navigate the world, and explore locations most people steered cleared of.
Me and a few BST friends of mine used to merc Hakutaku for people as an easy way to make gil. We'd either do the fight if you had a cluster or we'd provide one and do the fight for extra money.
@@hiflyer000 Being a BST was the best for earning money
And definitely doing Hakutaku was one of the best. Having a group of decent BSTs to kill the NM was so fun. Sure it was slower then a group, but gathering up a full raid to kill Hakutaku was time consuming, and paying a group of BSTs to kill it for you was a good option if you had the money to pay for it.
There were so many services you could do for people if you had a group of BSTs XD(sadly my server only seemed to have like..... 10 total at 75 x.x)
Begging someone to teach me how to fish so I could farm moat carp to afford level 10 warrior armor is my most special MMO memory.
Woo Darksteel ore! I'd be happy to see that in my chat log any day.
I should get back into eden
Used to farm twincoons from Habetrot. Though it was a pain in the ass to camp against Deathknight cause he was also farming the gil to pay back his LS so he could finish his relic.
I see you finally added something to that blank TV screen in the intro that we've been staring at all this time =P
Finally turned on that tv
I probably sold 40-50 stacks of fire crystals to the vendor in my early 1-10 days. I missed out on a fortune!
🤣 I used to drop beastman seals because I didn’t know what they were for!
Oops 😬
When I went back to retail I still camped my O kote and after one million spawns I finally got the gloves. I know they don’t mean anything anymore but the feeling I get from finally getting those gloves and putting them on again was worth the hours of time spent.
I did most of my farming in Dangruf Wadi during the 75 era. The worms dropped sulfur, zinc, copper, and flint. I could synth brass ingots and glass fibers or sell them all as is. The goblins there dropped decent amounts of gil, items, and magic scrolls that NPC for decent gil or on the AH if you were patient. The Geyser Lizard NM was usually up and the item it dropped NPCed for 4k gil.
There were probably better farming spots but I liked this one because I never had any competition.
The good ole days of farming silk or Teleport Taxi...
Watching your videos about FFXI always gets me really pumped up to play it! But.. when those free log in campaigns come around for retail.. by about the 3rd day in I start questioning why I'm playing lol. The grind eats at my soul, I dunno if I'll ever be able to play on a 75 era server and relive that intense grind again. Maybe someday, but we'll see.
If you play one, just do it casually. Huntin has been on Eden for a long ass time and he just does it for fun here and there and his highest in still only like 53 RDM. You don't have to kill yourself grinding the game out doing HNMs if you just don't have the time. Take it nice and slow and enjoy the journey. Don't feel obligated to play. Especially private servers. They are free so theres no reason to force yourself to play.
Yea, I cannot do that either, it was painful to make money.
I lasted about 2 weeks on Eden before I said screw that insane grind and found a level 99 server to get my nostalgic fix. Sometimes I wonder how I managed to put myself through all that, while at the same time I look back so fondly on the whole experience. Right time right place I guess because I could never do that today.
@@hiflyer000 You are spoiled by modern games holding your hand.
@@Rem694u2 Or just most of us are adults now and don't have the time for it, and would rather spend our time more productively or doing something else lol
My money ventures throughout the ages:
1) Insect paste bazaar in WindWoods
2) Low-level spell smuggling from Jueno to starter cities (AHs were separate)
3) Copper Ingot AH sales from 3g Copper Ore
4) Mithkabob & Yag Drink sales
5) Abyssea cruor armor sales on AH
6 (Current)) Red Curry Buns, hoarding all the Dragon Meat on Sylph as it gets posted on AH.
I love XIV but I really do miss the gearing process in older games. It's a much more immersive experience.
Can I just take a moment to say--your intro is really smooth and professional looking!
The farming bees part hit me hard.
I enjoyed it. The grind was part of what made FFXI great for me. You wanted HNM drops for crafting or awesome gear you had to work for it. Get the spawn time, log in and camp your mark, call your LS to get ready for pop and hope you were fast enough to pull. Also man if you didn't want to buy the O Kotes you could've hunted Mee Deggi the Punisher for the Rare/EX version and hoped you got lucky or asked a Friend/Merc TH3/4 THF to help you.
Socom in the intro brought back so many memories.
On the server I used to play on, myself and a friend cornered the dhamel hide market, we bought the stacks out of the AH and single sold each single for 5k each. Had 300k in a week
I'm grinding my weapons and gaming the system on Asura with Trusts. Cherukiki casts Regen, Haste, Protect, Shell, and Paralyze, and doesn't attack. Moogle follows Cherukiki around, giving an auto-refresh. So Cherukiki basically has an infinite MP pool. Then I use auto-run to follow the Balayangs in Fei Yin around while I hit them with the weakest weapon I can get in a given type. AFK the whole time. My bazaar message currently says "Don't mind me, I've just got an axe to grind with these bats"
meriphataud mountains OP is the best farm spot for a while. Flies for gausebit grass, list in singles on the auction house. If you're level 20ish you can solo xp there too. 30ish you can do buburimu peninsula Beach, leeches, sell to npc. Fastest money in those levels I believe.
Grinding and working towards something makes it much more rewarding. Gil becomes easier at higher levels in endgame and the LS can split the profits. Mining parties can be profitable. I've grinded in most zones to test and 60,000 Gil per hour is the benchmark. Anything higher is great for straight grind and selling to NPCs or AH. The rest comes from endgame, mining/HELM, etc. Combine it all together and it will add up. Peacock charm is my go-to neck piece on any server and the rest is a bonus. Focus on good gear for 1 job and have fun along the way! Merit parties endgame will make your character strong for replay value over gear as well :)
The grind for gil was great. It showed who cared about their job and who didn't.
I play on eden a ton and have mined/farmed for all of my crafts/subs and gear and bought a peacock charm for 8 mil before they added the RMT update.
I absolutely fell in love with crafting and fishing.
Ahhh yes. The need for gil. I remember a long time ago I was just farming random crap. I forgot where exactly but i think it was a outdoor zone outside of windurst with lots of Yagudo. And one of the NM's drops some kinda Summoner/Beastmaster staff. But anywho I was just NPC'ing a all the junk I collected and I noticed one of them was a magic scroll and it would sell to the npc for like 4k. I was like WTF!!! 4k? So then I would just go out there and hunt specifically for those scrolls. I ended up telling LS mate about it and he came out there with me to farm. We were like OH SNAP! We told one other friend of ours and we all kept the info to ourselves and just farmed the area every day. We made a lot of money with that.
I must say, that is exactly the way i feel. Gil, doesn't matter where you earn it, as long as you are having fun and think that is meaningful for something on the foreseeable future of your character, like upgrading basic stuff, then shift to farm items to sell and at the same time progressing on the mastery system, testing new classes. It all goes around gil, its very rewarding when you put effort even knowing you could lack the coin for it sometime and then you set a goal to earn it back and everything falls back into place, its fun to have a variety of things to choose and do that makes the game even more pleasant, because the endgame could be the old get better and fight bigger mobs or could be im gonna stroll around to test mobs for drops, try a lifeskill and not just farm for better gear because its required, its more about the experience then it is the mobs and quests, everyday is a different goal and quest set by you. FFXI is a unique game on that part. Love the game and your content is nostalgic! Much praise @huntin4games
You make a lot of great points. I played from 2005-2006, and then again on a new character in 2013-2014... Here's what I think:
The game was much more fun and rewarding in 2005. I remember the leaping boots and emperor's hairpin NM just went to Rare/Ex drops, and I spent the time getting both drops. I leveled cooking to 100 and used that as my main money-maker, even though my highest job only ever got to level 47. There was a definite pride in having geared your job properly and I took the time to do so. That being said, this was also the reason I quit the game at the time. I simply didn't have the time to gear the jobs the way I wanted to and couldn't keep up with the money grind. However, my best memories of FFXI were during this time, and part of me wishes I had kept playing and maybe forked up some $$ to buy gil. I know there was a huge stigma against it for good reason, but maybe that would have enabled me to keep playing the game with less time on my hands.
In 2013-2014, I started over because I learned that much of the time-consuming content had been altered so that the game was more approachable for an average person. I got 5 jobs to level 99 and had tons of fun (SMN, COR, THF, RNG, NIN). It was much easier to gear up the jobs at this stage, all of my jobs had iLVL 119 weapons/armor, but the missions at the time tended to favor either my COR or RNG so that was most of what I could play. At that point in the game, it was pretty impossible to get much going outside of linkshell players, and shouts were almost non-existent. At this point, the grind was more about finding the people to do the content, vs grinding to get gear and easily finding people to do things with.
Anyways, this is my favorite game of all time, and I miss not being able to play anymore! Love your videos for the nostalgia.
I played FF11 from its release in NA until part of Aht Urgan. The amount of gil required to get even decent gear was insane. You couldn't acquire gear except by buying it off the AH, or spending insane time (and gil!) crafting. I remember grinding for hours and hours and hours just to afford a Haubergeon just so I could hope to hit something as I leveled in the 60s. My drk couldnt get an xp party if I didn't have the right gear, I'd be useless.
At the time it was a very oppressive and restrictive system. If you didn't have the time to grind gil, or if you didn't get lucky with an NM drop, you'd be stuck and couldnt progress. I remember playing WoW and being blown away at the fact I could get good gear from drops, quests and dungeons instead of having to grind money for a week.
sounds like you need to eat acc food. But you could wear your AF it wasn't that bad. PCC would help too alot.
@@Bewefau accuracy food, sushi, was in high demand and very expensive. Just required more gil grinding. Grinding for gil was just how it was
I tried for years to get kraken club and NEVER got it! 👿
I got the rare/ex version after like 5 consecutive claims.
Only had 1 claim on LoO when it was the normal Kclub, of course it didn’t drop 🤣
I would spend weeks grinding away in Rollenberry Fields farming crawler silks...thf boomerang w/ rabbits foot and four leaf clover. Who knows if they helped but it’s how I made cash. That and dysynthing yag necklaces.
I had billions of gil. Sure farmed some high end items, but in my day, i enjoyed the thrill of moving scarce items from one server to another.
At times like delve, players on Ashura would have tons of clear items for say 40 to 60m, but servers like rag had none. So i wpuld buy and sell for say 120m.
Finding items and buyers was fun. All because i have mules server hop. Made many friends that way.
Oh, adaman hauberk. I will never know ye... :(
I remember farming for DAYS back in the day for my Ninja tools and equipment. I had a 60THF that I would use to NM hunt too. But mostly I'd farm Blood, and Crawler Silk.
Davoi is a good npc farm. The guns from firebelchers are worth 10k and every piece of armor from orcs are 1.5k. plus spell scrolls and gold masks from troopers.
I agree, FFXI taught me how to be frugal and how to barter with people. Crazy how a game taught me way more life skills than school
Haven't played XI since 2013, but I still remember my "secret" money maker: Mythril Picks. On my server, I could often buy/craft the materials to make them for ~3-4000g, and the Picks sold to NPCs for ~7000g each. All I was ever limited by was how much AH/Bazaars had in stock each day.
this defiantly isn't a secret on eden, it's quite the controversial topic on classic servers.
NPCing items in general or Mythril Picks specifically? I'm sure after nearly 8 years, someone else was bound to figure that one out eventually. Most all of XI's gil exploits when I played were about NPCing things for profit.
@@Mirvana Mythril picks specifically. there was a player who went around to all private servers and all he did all day was craft mythril picks and NPC them breaking the economy in the process, he was kinda infamous.
@@Jambara Lmao, well it wasn't me I promise lol. I didn't find it out until well after our economy was already destroyed by chocoblinkers, so I doubt I had much economic impact on Sylph lol.
The hting that was frustrating was every time there was a decent way to sell items to NPCs for some gil, they would patch it out. I do think that money is more valuable as a resource in FFXI than other MMOs and that can be a good thing
this video deserves a like because that AH reaction was gold!
My main money making activity, from level 50-75 probably, was hunting tigers in Batalia Downs to turn in the fangs in Sand'Oria. When elemental staves were new I farmed for MONTHS to afford ice and dark... then the prices crashed. I was broken.
Nice. The leaping boots were the bane of my existence lol
Heya Huntin, Always enjoy your videos and glad to see you're still on Eden. As always if you ever need anything feel free to ask.
Sidenote to anyone who reads this comment, if you play on Eden or may play it in the near future, first off welcome, second I highly recommend reading the rules before play!
Just started two days ago. Thank you for the welcome!
I played as a Drk back in 2002-2006? I think. Anyway, I still remember my gil grind saving for my haubergeon, a must for any Drk. It was like 2 mil when I got it before a massive inflation spike due to rmt's, then when I hit 69 I sold it for 8 mil to buy a hauberk for like 6 mil or so. Optical Hat was a must have as well. I had to buy all the eyes and pay an Alchemist(I think) to make the eye cluster. I farmed up so much silk thread and tree saplings to gradually buy all the mats, and got the hat with a random group once I had my cluster. The eyes seemed plentiful, as I've noticed them in many bazaars, so for me it was probably easier to buy the eyes as I did than hunt the nm's for each. I don't remember how much it cost. I just remember so much of my play time was consumed with farming and becoming very familiar with the surrounding environments and finding random nm spawns but not getting any drops or being too low level to attempt solo.
The grind for Gil was indeed painful, but a necessity for that extremely unique economy and gear structure that FFXI had.
I recall, how I did also farm 12stack Beehive Chips, for hours and hours and I made my first 100k, and I did so, because back when I just started (in Windurst) I was browsing the Auction House there, and someone had listed something called a *'Mana Tunic'* for 100k, and the item description read: [RECOVER MP] and I was _"(Gaaaasp), Yo I need to get this for mah girl... She's gonna be out there in the field, running low on MP and she can use this and recover _*_(in my mind: ALL)_*_ her MP and keep going! She'll love it!!"._ So I made my 100k, from Beehive Chips, bought the Mana Tunic. We were out leveling and she was getting low on MP and told her to try and use it, so she did!... aaand it farted out like... 30-something MP... It's like, Oh cool... I can cast an extra Cure II now... Nice one, Square Enix. 😂
Plus it had a 10min re-use time with a limited 30 charges, so I may as well have spent the Gil on hundreds of Ethers and tossed her a couple between fights.
Want to impress a MP-spending girl? Treat her to some fancy *Mulsum* and maybe a few *Yag. Drinks~* 🍾
Farming NMs is always going to be the funnest way to get gil. You can either get a rare item you want or get that big gil item and make the money.
It was a rough go but worth it.
My buddy and I camped NMs for money, split every drop 50/50. Huu Mjuu the Torrent was our go-to.
That and fishing the ponds in the desert was how I made gil.
good talk. i think that square needs to allow players to sell more items at once on the AH. the AH is crashed because demands have shifted and there are way less players on now than when the AH was optimized. if players could sell maybe 14 or 21 items at a time instead of 7 at a time i think the market would come back to life and gil would have more purpose again. because people could have space to sell more drops like lvl 70-90 gear, crafted items, and lesser drops instead of chucking them since your 7 slots are occupied by things that sell for more.
I feel like in FFXI I like the grind for money on physical jobs. SAM/DRK/PLD were always super epic for me to get that one piece of gear i wanted/needed. Back when a Hauby was 1.2mil on Ramuh, i earned that the slowest way possible but i felt so much more accomplished when i got it. Mage’s i always hated grinding gil for. Pretty much a pseudo level cap if you didn’t have certain spells in my experience. In summary, I don’t mind farming gil for gear upgrades, spells are a drag though if you’re ONLY a mage and don’t have a farming job leveled.
Summer was my favorite way to make gil. You could make 75k a day killing the avatars. Take 1 hour and half to kill them all.
The last time I played this, you could make extremely easy gil power leveling people. Just take your best job to zi-tah dark during "gain experience" event and for the while that it is up, you just one shot every creature you come across. This in turn gets you a special currency that lets you buy some vendible items you just vender trash. Sure the special events gave far more gil when you sold it on the AH, but that gain experience event was a twice daily occurance.... or was it twice weekly? It's been 6-7 years.
That being said, killing the avatars was nice to do, it just had a smaller gil amount. If you are still playing or play again, just go merit hunting on "gain experience". It will most likely net you more gold than you ever had.