hey girlbosses! just to clear some things up, this was the first video I ever posted on youtube and i was an idiot with the sarcasm especially when it came to the Louis and Niall slander! I love them both and no control is a bop!! I was joking around and im sorry if i offended anyone 💖
Ok so my thoughts on Charles Bukowski: I’ve read his poetry and I definitely did not vibe with the misogyny, but I like his way of writing and I can’t tell you why, but reading his poems/ books make you feel a certain way. They made me, a raging feminist, feel a certain way. I also looked into his life and what kind of human he was... and well- he was something. Like full on alcoholic. Sad alcoholic, who lost a lot, loves sex and was insomniac. Of course he wrote poetry.
His poem blue bird is one of my favorites, do check it out. And I agree with your comments but mostly because I read 'ham on rye' and 'post office' before this poetry book. His perspective becomes a little more clear once his life is understood. Still don't agree with a lot his povs though.
His work is definitely filled with misogyny, but yeah I agree it makes you feel a certain type of way. Maybe a sense of feeling sorry for him? I think that's how I felt. I read about his life, his struggles, his addictions, and to me it makes sense why he was the way he was. To me, it made sense why he hated women and basically only used them for sex. He was a broken person who wrote some pretty cool poetry.
shes cool but literally the part where she says this made me so mad like you hate them why? they arent attractive in societys conventional way or the fact they werent even given enough opportunities to show their skills or you just got manipulated with the sublimal way harry was always pushed to be the leader? i hope this doesnt come off rude but its unacceptable
@@aves11111 I think they might mean, in a way, that he just seems very relaxed in certain situations when really he knows he's in complete control, like he's getting exactly what he wants out of whatever situation he's in, or at least that's how I interpreted it
If you want to read something similar to Norwegian Wood but without the inherent man-flavour, I would really recommend Banana Yoshimoto! She's incredibly cool, Kitchen is her most famous but The Lake and Asleep are also just wow, in my opinion! Loved the vid!!
me reading his favorite books analyzing his birth chart while listening to his favorite music at 3 am so i can figure out who he really is only to see this video in my reccommended
THE JOHN GREEN TUMBLR COMMENT ABOUT MURAKAMI AHHHHH. The two of them are in my top three authors list and you’re killing me but also it’s so true. I deserve it
I got a Charles Bukowski book the other day (thinking hey, I like poetry and Harry Styles) and it’s the most misogynistic and toxic poetry i’ve ever read
Rewatching the celebrity book club playlist and I cannot believe Carley literally ripped a celebrated author to SHREDS in her first video lmao like she did not have to go off this hard but im glad she did
the female characters were not terrible- the way he describes them and only links them to memories of the mm sexually is the terrible part. the women themselves are the backbone of the story and quite frankly the best part. their characters are so complex and are the only reason he finds sense in his world, but the way he sees them sometimes as mere sexual objects is the terrible part.
@@marikajasmine99 I think I’m going to have to disgree. The female charaters are (in my opinion) only there to further the main characters emotional growth and character development. They might have interesting back stories and complex trauma but their purpose in the story falls flat. They are there only to surround the main character and aid his personal journey. I don’t think they are very complex. Each is given a defining feature that can be summed up with one word: the sad one, the sexy one etc. Also the fact that the main character has to have sex with almost every female character to me shows how the women are seen as something to conquer. The main character places womens value mainly on their appearance and sex appeal. The sex scene descriptions are nauseasting and the book reeks of ”men writing women”. I was dissapointed by the book and wished I could have gotten something out of it.
Ugh I hate Bukowski so so much but his poem “for jane” was SO important to me when I was experiencing grief for the first time at TWELVE and hadn’t read any of his other poetry or been informed of who he was as a person 🙄 and I made a habit of posting a quote from it every year on various social platforms on a specific date and it’s so difficult to reconcile how deeply a singular poem that’s like 12 lines long could affect me with the man who wrote it
You're an angel for sparing me from reading that Charles Bukowski book. I had a feeling it would be bad...but I wasn't prepared for it being that bad. I'm so sorry you had to sit through that 😂😭
I'm obsessed with your channel omg ur hilarious. and btw I'm pretty sure 'Love is like a dog from hell' is actually Harrys favorite collection from Bukowski. His first album has a lot of references to the poems in that collection.
I feel like every fucking young girl that was into 1D had this moment where they went to one of their concerts (if they ever did) and dressed to the fucking T, shaved, did makeup etc because we were SO convinced they would see us in the crowd and fall in love
Every teenage girl feels like that no matter what band they're into (I was a goth). It's so funny to think about as an adult because if that actually happened he would be a horrible sex offender. Even if you're an adult it's still creepy for a famous person to be with a fan. There's a power imbalance. Most famous people have no interest in being in a relationship with people who put them on pedestal. Only abusive people would get off on that. You've actually got a better chance of being with them if you have no idea who they are. But at the time you think if they saw you and see you're they're biggest fan who loves them way more than anyone else they would think you're their soulmate. 😆
Thank you for this video! Yes, I love your sense of humor and personality, but I also love your commitment to both Harry and reading these books. High praise!
Murakami's fantastical fiction books like 'Hard-boiled wonderland & the end of the world' are super different than his contemporary work, I really recommend reading them!!
I get your perspective on Murakamis writing but the story does follow the guy rather than the girl. So it is his perspective on her illness. I guess it was intentional just a theory I'm not entirely sure though.
He literally mentions several times in the story that he doesn't completely understand why she goes through those problems or how he can even help her, he still tries regardless which was honestly pretty nice considering how many works don't really go into how confusing and drawn out these situations can be (and how no matter how much you try sometimes things just end badly)
Hi! I loved it! Also, something interesting about Bukowski is that unlike most authors he lacks consistency so maybe if you're up for it read a poem or two of Love is a dog from hell and then listen to From the dining room, you can definitely see the inspiration take from Bukowski's work. Bye, love ya
@@uncarley i haven't read love is a dog from hell but i /have/ read that the "dog" in the title refers to a woman... and based on the half of post office i read i have no fucking clue how bukowski's meant to "lack consistency" because he definitely hated women pretty consistently. please don't give him a second chance. his prose is ok but not worth suffering through the rest.
There are many more Bukowski collections that I’m sure you’d enjoy, if you ever decide to give him another chance. Some examples are: ‘Burning in water, drowning in flame’, ‘Love Is a Dog from Hell’, ‘Women’, ‘Slouching Toward Nirvana’ and ‘The Last Night of the Earth Poems’.
@@uncarley oh great :) also, idk if these comments are serious about Harry hiding his true self (or to that effect) but do you agree? I don’t know if this collection of Bukowski has made people question Harry’s feminism and kind nature, but I definitely don’t think he’s putting on a front, not any more than the rest of us. Do you? I’m just curious :\
@@magnoliashoals hmmm good question... i think in general we can read/consume things that are problematic without inherently being problematic ourselves as long as we acknowledge those issues in the text (ie i love the great gatsby but it is suuuper misogynistic) so i don't think harry liking bukowski directly undercuts his feminism as long as he is conscious of the problematic aspects of the text!! i'd really love to hear him speak more on bukowski and what he likes/criticizes about his work
that being said, if he refuses to acknowledge the issues in the text and sees no issue with the sometimes misogynistic undertones of bukowskis work, then i do think that does undercut his commitment to feminism! idk it's only something we could know for sure with more info
@@uncarley yeah definitely. I agree with that. I think a lot of Bukowski’s work is self-aware, though, and not definitively from his perspective. The narrative is quite unclear in a few of the more problematic-themed poems, but I think Harry might read them as more of a ‘warning’ of toxic masculinity/ the effects of the patriarchy, than to relate to and take inspiration from. Like you said, however, there’s no way to know without Harry commenting. I appreciate your replies and hope you have a lovely day/ evening. And I loved the video :)
I’m a big Bukowski fan and always have been along with my Dad, but I think that’s because I’m very much an anti when it comes to books being moral. I don’t think they can actually speak for a person, and I know Bukowski went through a shit ton. Idk, I know a lot of people aren’t the biggest fans but he and Ginsberg are two of my favourite poets of all time! On Love is a really good collection of Bukowski’s poems and On Cats 💖
I know I fail as a feminist when I say that Bukowski is one of my all-time faves. His insight on society is bleak, but I can't help but love it. Sorry!
I’m so grateful that you did this booklist review. The married feminist in me is cringing at HS’ booklist, but it kinda explains his first two albums a bit more. What did he say about them, having sex and feeling sad? I’ve not read the Magical Thinking one, so I’ll pick that title today because even though you’re giving it 3/5, I’m on board. Excited. I will not forgive the Niall and Lou slander, but you chose to voluntarily suffer through Bukowski, so you’ve punished yourself a plenty. And, yes, the fans of Bukowski, some of his shit’s great writing, and some of it is frustrating AF- kind of like living in a patriarchal society somewhere pretty with year-round summer like in California. Keep up the good work you do for humanity. Your commitment to 1D and self abuse is admirable. Your final thought made me choke a little and snort coffee out of my nose. I kind of assume Harry is the sad woman with mental illness, but let’s go with your version instead.
Ive read charles Poetry and as a Girl/women its really hard to read sometimes without getting a little mad... his was of Wtiting and using words is pretty good though! I still dont like him and dont wanna seperate the Art from the artist soooo i dont wanna support him Ort his Art
I had to write a report on a poetry book in college. I waited till three days before it was due to start it. I went to the library and picked up Charles Bukowski's book On Love, because I liked the cover. It was giving me sweet Rom-Com vibes. I was horrified to find out it was the perverted ramblings of a dirty old man. It was too late to read something else, so I had to write a 5 page paper on it.
heyyy i'm Brazilian! i just discovered your channel and i'm really happy about it. you are sarcastic in an incredible way omg this video made my day! ps: my ex boyfriend gave me a portrait with a poem by bukowski and that was reason enough for me to kick his ass :)
Hey ! Loved the vid, your comments are actually very clever and you made me laugh :)) Just wanna say that I've never seen Harry say he enjoyed that one collection of poems from Bukowski ? I've done a lot of research on his literary influences because I liked his music a lot and so far the best insight I could get on it was Jack Edward's video "The poetry that inspired Harry Style's music", so If you want to give it a try I would suggest you go for it because I found it fascinating :)) (btw he also read books harry recommended and also made a very interesting video about it) . Anyway thanks for your recs!
yes! it's important to note that harry actually likes "love is like a dog from hell" from bukowski the best i think?? i just got whatever bukowski collection my library had!! thank you!
and yes, i do love female authors, a lot of my favourite books are written by females, and a lot are written by men... both genders are fantastic writers, although being of a different gender or race doesn’t actually affect writing, our mindsets are not different... and yes white men can write poetry as well, if you read bukowskis memoir Ham on Rye you will understand the time period he was living in, the society he was living in and also a lot of where his anger and frustration came from, yes he was white, but he was a german american during world war 2, he was bullied and thrown in the dirt for decades, spent years in therapy for his severe body and face acne... his father was very abusive to him as well, if he missed a grain of grass mowing the lawn he would get whipped by his fathers belt... and yes, he even admitted he was an alcoholic, chain smoking son of a bitch... but he was an excellent author
Spot on. He gets labelled a lot. Yes, he’s not perfect, but people should try to understand him at least a bit. He’s still bad, but that’s not everything about him.
He’s human, and he wrote with sincere honesty. I think this is so fucking important, now more than ever. I can’t help but admire someone who was so authentically themselves and refused to censor. Even when they pen stuff i don’t personally agree with.
Personally i do like some of Bukowskis poems and think hes talented at writing but you can’t say it’s fine the way he treats, thinks, or writes about women especially surrounding sexual assault because he had a troubled background/life. The commentary of “he was in a different time/lived in a different society’ doesn’t make it okay or cancel it out at all. you can appreciate his work and poems but you have to be aware of the person he was and not try and wipe away his actions because of it or reduce them to a product of his time or background.
also your background definitely effects your writing. Your experience and the lense that you view and experience the world through effects the way you write about it. you can tell when women’s pain is written by a man vs by a women as one of those people know first hand what it’s like and that’s evident in the way they write about it.
@@daisy3087 oh i definitely agree! i’m not trying to justify anything bad he or anyone else ever did, i’m just stating facts that may have not been known, that can at least give a better understanding of his character. He was a misogynist, yes, he was a raging alcoholic, yes, the amount he smoked could have killed a hundred men, he was depressed and stated he hated people, yes again, but he developed new writing, a new perspective in literature, they were things you could imagine. not roses are red and violets are blue, but more the sky is overrated and the world is an ugly place, only we can make it better if we were better. that’s more something he would say and it’s something people can relate too. He was honest. and i admire that about him, he was an author, not a rapist, he was a dirty, alcoholic eventual old man but was so insightful and intelligent. I’m only here to balance a scale of perception, not outweigh it.
And in case you did not he likes more than just bukowski's books for what i've seen he uses some lines of his works for intro on his songs and his shows so yeah...
hey girlbosses! just to clear some things up, this was the first video I ever posted on youtube and i was an idiot with the sarcasm especially when it came to the Louis and Niall slander! I love them both and no control is a bop!! I was joking around and im sorry if i offended anyone 💖
“Walt Whitman was gay so he gets a pass to write poetry” 100%
i said what i said
Omg, i love her so much for this ahahahahaha
Tragically for the culture, walt Whitman was also a pedophile
I love how she’s talking smack about her 1D concert outfit, but is wearing almost the exact same thing
Literally, I thought it was a recent picture.
im dead☠️☠️💀💀
I mean...she's wearing it inside the house not at a concert.
@@DeanithForeverYoung ok ?
@@DeanithForeverYoung i am chill ?
Ok so my thoughts on Charles Bukowski: I’ve read his poetry and I definitely did not vibe with the misogyny, but I like his way of writing and I can’t tell you why, but reading his poems/ books make you feel a certain way. They made me, a raging feminist, feel a certain way. I also looked into his life and what kind of human he was... and well- he was something. Like full on alcoholic. Sad alcoholic, who lost a lot, loves sex and was insomniac. Of course he wrote poetry.
“of course he wrote poetry” GHDJFJEAHALHZHZHS I’VE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD GOODBYE
His poem blue bird is one of my favorites, do check it out. And I agree with your comments but mostly because I read 'ham on rye' and 'post office' before this poetry book. His perspective becomes a little more clear once his life is understood. Still don't agree with a lot his povs though.
@@susannamarybabu8319 Blue bird is definitely one of my favorites and opened the world of poetry to me.
Thank you for putting it into words
His work is definitely filled with misogyny, but yeah I agree it makes you feel a certain type of way. Maybe a sense of feeling sorry for him? I think that's how I felt. I read about his life, his struggles, his addictions, and to me it makes sense why he was the way he was. To me, it made sense why he hated women and basically only used them for sex. He was a broken person who wrote some pretty cool poetry.
not the louis and niall slander 😐
my heart broke when she said that...
@@neela8067 same tho-😭
yes the louis slander niall is decent
@@rrachhelll wtf Louis doesn’t deserve any hate. He’s never done anything horrible so what do you have against him?
@@maddied4953 I guess they're talking about the VOICE
i cannot accept that louis and niall slander
I know sameee 😩😭
Same😭😭
shes cool but literally the part where she says this made me so mad like you hate them why? they arent attractive in societys conventional way or the fact they werent even given enough opportunities to show their skills or you just got manipulated with the sublimal way harry was always pushed to be the leader? i hope this doesnt come off rude but its unacceptable
@@mrunmayee8149 she was 100% being sarcastic LMAOO
SAME
"lines that are meant to be tumblr tattoos" PLEAASE DHIHDSXSB
where is the lie though
@@uncarleyI’m so sorry but you just killed me with that smile ❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
I think Harry is really good at putting up a relaxed front that is actually very calculated and even manipulative.
I think you might be very correct
can you explain what you mean a bit more? im curious
@@aves11111 I think they might mean, in a way, that he just seems very relaxed in certain situations when really he knows he's in complete control, like he's getting exactly what he wants out of whatever situation he's in, or at least that's how I interpreted it
@@dominiquemorales7519 ohhhh yeah i can def see that
I see it.
Freud would have been so happy to have a session with Charles Bukowski.
screaming
i cant explain the grief i felt when you said he likes Charles Bukowski (my enemy)
same
@Tamina Pitrelli you can like an artist's work and not at all like them as a person or agree with their views
@Tamina Pitrelli lmaooo i get you i get you
@Tamina Pitrelli same he gives me that vibe like oh he's so cool so fresh loves everyone but it's just acting idk
@@vitoriaregina7665 what? Why would you think it's acting?
"Oh yeah, oh, he's white" I laughed so hard lol
harry styles is an aquarius and that is why he reads bukowski and we hate him for it
I'm an aquarius what-✋😭
@@aleeshaidrees34 the stereotype of aquarius are: they,’re the rebel ones, they usually do things to shock others and piss off society.
If you want to read something similar to Norwegian Wood but without the inherent man-flavour, I would really recommend Banana Yoshimoto! She's incredibly cool, Kitchen is her most famous but The Lake and Asleep are also just wow, in my opinion! Loved the vid!!
She’s amazing!! I love lizard too!!
thank you! I've been looking for just that (:
Thank you!! Have been wanting to read some Murakami but too afraid because of everyone saying he’s misogynistic. Will deffo read this instead 😊
Thank you for this rec! Just ordered "Kitchen"!
Ok but is no one going to tell you to do a collab video with Jack Edwards?? You guys are the two BEST book tubers in the world.
YESYESYESYESS
EXACTLY YES PLEASEEE
YESSS my favs! especially since he recently did a zoom collab with noelle gallagher! @uncarley @jackedwards
+++++
omg PLEASE
That louis slander hurt too much I can't cope with that take it back
the subtle niall shade at the beginning hurts my feelings 💔💔💔
same but also the louis slander...uncalled for
harry is so unhinged that i have to lash out on the other members
@@uncarley okay, fair enough 💀
@@uncarley wth that's ur excuse?! 🤦♀️💀
@@your_little_versailles no one cares
“i think that is a red flag for harry styles” LOL
"i can have literary conversations with him.... which is why women really read." i love
me reading his favorite books analyzing his birth chart while listening to his favorite music at 3 am so i can figure out who he really is only to see this video in my reccommended
Ur trip to the library had mad sesame street vibes 😤 kinda content I need in my life !!!!
omg sesame street vibes is all i wanna be
As such a huge fan of Harry I always feel so off when I start thinking about his reading choices :/
yall think way too deep good god its a book....
@@rrachhelll I’m far up his ass to care too much anyway lmao but that’s just what I think anyway
@Klarissa AndradeI’m choosing to believe this lol
I have a tattoo of his lyrics and every time I think of some of the books he’s claimed to love I think “hmm... make it make sense...”
THE JOHN GREEN TUMBLR COMMENT ABOUT MURAKAMI AHHHHH. The two of them are in my top three authors list and you’re killing me but also it’s so true. I deserve it
I got a Charles Bukowski book the other day (thinking hey, I like poetry and Harry Styles) and it’s the most misogynistic and toxic poetry i’ve ever read
Literally same 💔💔💔💔
Rewatching the celebrity book club playlist and I cannot believe Carley literally ripped a celebrated author to SHREDS in her first video lmao like she did not have to go off this hard but im glad she did
how are you not more popular?? make it make sense
this charles bukowski slander is exactly what i needed today
SAME
Norwegian wood is always such a red flag for me bc the female characters are terrible and the weird sexual details are just...concerning to me
YES i started reading it and i couldn't finish, i just hated the way he described women ya know
thank god i thought i was the only one
Same dude. It was difficult and annoying to finish it.
the female characters were not terrible- the way he describes them and only links them to memories of the mm sexually is the terrible part. the women themselves are the backbone of the story and quite frankly the best part. their characters are so complex and are the only reason he finds sense in his world, but the way he sees them sometimes as mere sexual objects is the terrible part.
@@marikajasmine99 I think I’m going to have to disgree. The female charaters are (in my opinion) only there to further the main characters emotional growth and character development. They might have interesting back stories and complex trauma but their purpose in the story falls flat. They are there only to surround the main character and aid his personal journey. I don’t think they are very complex. Each is given a defining feature that can be summed up with one word: the sad one, the sexy one etc. Also the fact that the main character has to have sex with almost every female character to me shows how the women are seen as something to conquer. The main character places womens value mainly on their appearance and sex appeal. The sex scene descriptions are nauseasting and the book reeks of ”men writing women”. I was dissapointed by the book and wished I could have gotten something out of it.
Ugh I hate Bukowski so so much but his poem “for jane” was SO important to me when I was experiencing grief for the first time at TWELVE and hadn’t read any of his other poetry or been informed of who he was as a person 🙄 and I made a habit of posting a quote from it every year on various social platforms on a specific date and it’s so difficult to reconcile how deeply a singular poem that’s like 12 lines long could affect me with the man who wrote it
oh I can't believe you unpublished your celebrity book club videos, they were my comfort vids 💔
You're an angel for sparing me from reading that Charles Bukowski book. I had a feeling it would be bad...but I wasn't prepared for it being that bad. I'm so sorry you had to sit through that 😂😭
im happy that at least one good thing came out of me reading that garbage fire called a book
I love your sense of humour💀
omg thank youuu
When I was 18 I wanted to get a bukowski line tattooed on my ribs. Now, at 28, I'm so fucking relieved I never did.
I'm obsessed with your channel omg ur hilarious. and btw I'm pretty sure 'Love is like a dog from hell' is actually Harrys favorite collection from Bukowski. His first album has a lot of references to the poems in that collection.
I'm laughing my ass off at the moment when she makes fun of her younger self and I'm like bestie I hate to tell you this...
I love your videos and the fact that there is always a comment telling you that bangs would suit you
i know everyone is enabling me and pushing me closer to getting them
"what does a white man have to say..nowadays" I love you already. I am subscribing.
"I don't know why but I feel like I've forgotten something" was fucking mood 2020
Oh, to be able to go to the library and pick up Harry Style's favourite books.... It was a simpler time back then
Ma’am I can’t stop watching your videos, they actually got me back to reading . Thank you
I feel like every fucking young girl that was into 1D had this moment where they went to one of their concerts (if they ever did) and dressed to the fucking T, shaved, did makeup etc because we were SO convinced they would see us in the crowd and fall in love
stop this really called me out-💀
Every teenage girl feels like that no matter what band they're into (I was a goth). It's so funny to think about as an adult because if that actually happened he would be a horrible sex offender. Even if you're an adult it's still creepy for a famous person to be with a fan. There's a power imbalance. Most famous people have no interest in being in a relationship with people who put them on pedestal. Only abusive people would get off on that. You've actually got a better chance of being with them if you have no idea who they are.
But at the time you think if they saw you and see you're they're biggest fan who loves them way more than anyone else they would think you're their soulmate. 😆
Thank you for this video! Yes, I love your sense of humor and personality, but I also love your commitment to both Harry and reading these books. High praise!
I listened to a murakami book and it assaulted my ears with horniness
GIRL! I LOVED YOUR VIDEO!!! the way you put ur observations, opinions, and thoughts is amazing.
Murakami's fantastical fiction books like 'Hard-boiled wonderland & the end of the world' are super different than his contemporary work, I really recommend reading them!!
your humour is unreal you’re so funny
"which is really why women read" 😂 😂 😂 THE SARCASM!!!
i'm absolutely loving the wattpad energy at the start of the video
I get your perspective on Murakamis writing but the story does follow the guy rather than the girl. So it is his perspective on her illness. I guess it was intentional just a theory I'm not entirely sure though.
nah thats definitely the point, the main character is kinda an unreliable narrator, he doesnt get the full picture of the situations he witnesses
He literally mentions several times in the story that he doesn't completely understand why she goes through those problems or how he can even help her, he still tries regardless which was honestly pretty nice considering how many works don't really go into how confusing and drawn out these situations can be (and how no matter how much you try sometimes things just end badly)
Weird question- Did you end up booking the hand soap commercial?
Your night voice is everything, babe
I love how you talk about things , ur so intellectual and hilarious x
Hi! I loved it! Also, something interesting about Bukowski is that unlike most authors he lacks consistency so maybe if you're up for it read a poem or two of Love is a dog from hell and then listen to From the dining room, you can definitely see the inspiration take from Bukowski's work. Bye, love ya
okay, obsessed with this revelation! maybe i need to give bukowski another go??
@@uncarley i haven't read love is a dog from hell but i /have/ read that the "dog" in the title refers to a woman... and based on the half of post office i read i have no fucking clue how bukowski's meant to "lack consistency" because he definitely hated women pretty consistently. please don't give him a second chance. his prose is ok but not worth suffering through the rest.
No because that is so true- I never thought about it like that
There are many more Bukowski collections that I’m sure you’d enjoy, if you ever decide to give him another chance. Some examples are: ‘Burning in water, drowning in flame’, ‘Love Is a Dog from Hell’, ‘Women’, ‘Slouching Toward Nirvana’ and ‘The Last Night of the Earth Poems’.
yes! people have been messaging me saying that i picked a trash bukowski collection and need to read a better one... im definitely gonna do it!!
@@uncarley oh great :)
also, idk if these comments are serious about Harry hiding his true self (or to that effect) but do you agree? I don’t know if this collection of Bukowski has made people question Harry’s feminism and kind nature, but I definitely don’t think he’s putting on a front, not any more than the rest of us. Do you? I’m just curious :\
@@magnoliashoals hmmm good question... i think in general we can read/consume things that are problematic without inherently being problematic ourselves as long as we acknowledge those issues in the text (ie i love the great gatsby but it is suuuper misogynistic) so i don't think harry liking bukowski directly undercuts his feminism as long as he is conscious of the problematic aspects of the text!! i'd really love to hear him speak more on bukowski and what he likes/criticizes about his work
that being said, if he refuses to acknowledge the issues in the text and sees no issue with the sometimes misogynistic undertones of bukowskis work, then i do think that does undercut his commitment to feminism! idk it's only something we could know for sure with more info
@@uncarley yeah definitely. I agree with that. I think a lot of Bukowski’s work is self-aware, though, and not definitively from his perspective. The narrative is quite unclear in a few of the more problematic-themed poems, but I think Harry might read them as more of a ‘warning’ of toxic masculinity/ the effects of the patriarchy, than to relate to and take inspiration from. Like you said, however, there’s no way to know without Harry commenting. I appreciate your replies and hope you have a lovely day/ evening. And I loved the video :)
I’m a big Bukowski fan and always have been along with my Dad, but I think that’s because I’m very much an anti when it comes to books being moral. I don’t think they can actually speak for a person, and I know Bukowski went through a shit ton. Idk, I know a lot of people aren’t the biggest fans but he and Ginsberg are two of my favourite poets of all time! On Love is a really good collection of Bukowski’s poems and On Cats 💖
i can’t believe i just discovered your channel...amazing content keep up the good work
I’m literally obsessed with your channel.
get a fringe i think it would suit you
omg don't validate me, i'll do it
@@uncarley I second this, do it girl! 💖
@@uncarley do ittt!!
the scenario at the beginning at the video made me realize i’ve never had an original thought in my life
after bingeing your channel for a while, love to see the origin story of your hatred of bukowski lol
omg i love your observations and sense of humor!
this is so nostalgic to me now
omg thanks for including going back for the camera, i always think about it
Not related with the content whatsoever, but I'm obsessed with your bedroom, omg
I found your channel, I’m currently binging it, and you’re so funny aaaaaaaaa luv ur content
Honestly male writers are the worst, idk why they feel the need to talk about women’s bodies’ all the timeeee
No one gona talk about urs, dnt worry.
Just discovered your channel, and I'm really happy that you are a directoner too... so yeah you gained a new sub haha
I know I fail as a feminist when I say that Bukowski is one of my all-time faves. His insight on society is bleak, but I can't help but love it. Sorry!
I feel this so hard. He’s horrible but fascinating and i love his writing even tho my soul says i shouldnt!
sameee
@@elizabethgiardin2296 exactly!! U can admire someone’s artistry without liking them as a person
also hes dead so its easy to separate the art from the artist since hes not gaining anything from it anymore yk
Have you read The Marriage Plot by Jeffrey Eugenides? That one really stuck with me and sorta reminds me of Norwegian Wood
what is his taste- like im concerned
I’m so grateful that you did this booklist review. The married feminist in me is cringing at HS’ booklist, but it kinda explains his first two albums a bit more. What did he say about them, having sex and feeling sad? I’ve not read the Magical Thinking one, so I’ll pick that title today because even though you’re giving it 3/5, I’m on board. Excited. I will not forgive the Niall and Lou slander, but you chose to voluntarily suffer through Bukowski, so you’ve punished yourself a plenty. And, yes, the fans of Bukowski, some of his shit’s great writing, and some of it is frustrating AF- kind of like living in a patriarchal society somewhere pretty with year-round summer like in California. Keep up the good work you do for humanity. Your commitment to 1D and self abuse is admirable. Your final thought made me choke a little and snort coffee out of my nose. I kind of assume Harry is the sad woman with mental illness, but let’s go with your version instead.
im angrY...im a mAn 😤
im so sorry about that, my thoughts and prayers are with you
I had to stop reading 1Q84 from Murakami because of the way he described women. I just couldn’t take it after 300 pages
✨Drop the fanfic already✨
Ive read charles Poetry and as a Girl/women its really hard to read sometimes without getting a little mad... his was of Wtiting and using words is pretty good though! I still dont like him and dont wanna seperate the Art from the artist soooo i dont wanna support him Ort his Art
I think we're all collectively grieving the fact that Harry likes that poetry collection from Bukowski. He needs to explain himself.
"It is so bad I wanna give you a zero. but thats not possible so I give you a one" LITERALLY
I am loving the Walt Whitman support
I had to write a report on a poetry book in college. I waited till three days before it was due to start it. I went to the library and picked up Charles Bukowski's book On Love, because I liked the cover. It was giving me sweet Rom-Com vibes. I was horrified to find out it was the perverted ramblings of a dirty old man. It was too late to read something else, so I had to write a 5 page paper on it.
Can you do a 'read with me' video where you film yourself reading? I can't visit my reading buddy because of covid and trying to find a solution :)
“Three out of the two books”😂😂😂❤️
your videos are so relaxing
okay you have the best personality of any booktuber I've seen
unrelated but i love the hedgehog and plant!
you are so freaking interesting and funny
I was talking to my dad about poets and he told he that he likes reading Charles Bakowski. Red flag red flag
tell me why i can smell those library books? i haven't been in a library in forever but im missing that crisp library book smell
god im so glad i found ur channel i jus luv ur vibe
omgggg this was so funny i love you
this video made me pause to laugh like 12 times. i would kill for you to meet harry just to discuss and roast him on his choices
heyyy i'm Brazilian! i just discovered your channel and i'm really happy about it.
you are sarcastic in an incredible way omg this video made my day!
ps: my ex boyfriend gave me a portrait with a poem by bukowski and that was reason enough for me to kick his ass :)
Hey, I'm also Brazilian and just discovered this channel because of my insane searching for Harry Styles haha nice to meet you btw! ;)
I'm also brazilian!! Wtf?? Are we just a BR fandom now? I'm here for it.
omg WHAT A RED FLAG!! you can do better
reunião de br's querendo saber mais sobre o harry and i'm here for it
Hey ! Loved the vid, your comments are actually very clever and you made me laugh :))
Just wanna say that I've never seen Harry say he enjoyed that one collection of poems from Bukowski ? I've done a lot of research on his literary influences because I liked his music a lot and so far the best insight I could get on it was Jack Edward's video "The poetry that inspired Harry Style's music", so If you want to give it a try I would suggest you go for it because I found it fascinating :)) (btw he also read books harry recommended and also made a very interesting video about it) . Anyway thanks for your recs!
yes! it's important to note that harry actually likes "love is like a dog from hell" from bukowski the best i think?? i just got whatever bukowski collection my library had!! thank you!
and yes, i do love female authors, a lot of my favourite books are written by females, and a lot are written by men... both genders are fantastic writers, although being of a different gender or race doesn’t actually affect writing, our mindsets are not different... and yes white men can write poetry as well, if you read bukowskis memoir Ham on Rye you will understand the time period he was living in, the society he was living in and also a lot of where his anger and frustration came from, yes he was white, but he was a german american during world war 2, he was bullied and thrown in the dirt for decades, spent years in therapy for his severe body and face acne... his father was very abusive to him as well, if he missed a grain of grass mowing the lawn he would get whipped by his fathers belt... and yes, he even admitted he was an alcoholic, chain smoking son of a bitch... but he was an excellent author
Spot on. He gets labelled a lot. Yes, he’s not perfect, but people should try to understand him at least a bit. He’s still bad, but that’s not everything about him.
He’s human, and he wrote with sincere honesty. I think this is so fucking important, now more than ever. I can’t help but admire someone who was so authentically themselves and refused to censor. Even when they pen stuff i don’t personally agree with.
Personally i do like some of Bukowskis poems and think hes talented at writing but you can’t say it’s fine the way he treats, thinks, or writes about women especially surrounding sexual assault because he had a troubled background/life. The commentary of “he was in a different time/lived in a different society’ doesn’t make it okay or cancel it out at all. you can appreciate his work and poems but you have to be aware of the person he was and not try and wipe away his actions because of it or reduce them to a product of his time or background.
also your background definitely effects your writing. Your experience and the lense that you view and experience the world through effects the way you write about it. you can tell when women’s pain is written by a man vs by a women as one of those people know first hand what it’s like and that’s evident in the way they write about it.
@@daisy3087 oh i definitely agree! i’m not trying to justify anything bad he or anyone else ever did, i’m just stating facts that may have not been known, that can at least give a better understanding of his character. He was a misogynist, yes, he was a raging alcoholic, yes, the amount he smoked could have killed a hundred men, he was depressed and stated he hated people, yes again, but he developed new writing, a new perspective in literature, they were things you could imagine. not roses are red and violets are blue, but more the sky is overrated and the world is an ugly place, only we can make it better if we were better. that’s more something he would say and it’s something people can relate too. He was honest. and i admire that about him, he was an author, not a rapist, he was a dirty, alcoholic eventual old man but was so insightful and intelligent. I’m only here to balance a scale of perception, not outweigh it.
How ASMR is your voice, that's amazing, and I'm only 20 seconds in
can you please do taylor swifttt i love her so much
Best white man poet who is not gay: Emerson 🤌🏻
Watching her talking about her opinion on Norwegian wood making me read it again
I love going back and seeing the genesis of your Bukowski hate
I would literally scream if you make a podcast one day. Please do it
I loved this! So glad I found you :D
And in case you did not he likes more than just bukowski's books for what i've seen he uses some lines of his works for intro on his songs and his shows so yeah...