Definitely fine with the new royal rule. It sets your series apart from others, and it means that pulling a royal for a strategy you can't currently play doesn't leave a bad taste.
@@aquatikcamel4034 I wonder if this contributed to some Massochists having far more of an archetype available than you would've expected. That Cimoooooooo video where he fought a bunch of random massochists was very eye-opening, especially with the last 2
The charm of the series is it being a slow sealed progression. Getting 1 or even 2 extra packs for the rare occasion of a royal does not change that core feeling. So its definitively fine to ass it as some flavour. Same would go for example if you take an extra pack for a rank up.
Definitely better than using the Forbidden Droplet; it's still just rng that won't really add that much just speed up the progression a fraction of a percent lol
Of all the possible royal URs, how poetic and hilarious it is for Flamberge to be the one to answer the call. The Royal rule I feel is perfectly acceptable. Throws an extra needed bone to the masochist run.
Invoked shaddoll works by allowing Aleister to fuse with shaddolls to trigger their effects while dogmatika compliments shaddolls by sending their fusion effect monsters to the gy to trigger their effects while special summoning for free with either invoked or shaddoll fusions on the field. The combo is summon an invoked monster to protect yourself, make shaddoll fusions, then special ecclesia to add the dogmatika stuff after you finish fusion summoning.
Weird, I played it as a Mechaba first, then Digmatika searches to set up a Schism into Winda on the opponent's turn. Step 1, Normal Al. Step 2, the line to Mechaba. Step 3, DPE side quest depends on if you had the money or not. Step 4, Nadir Servant, Ecclesia, just or banish the Almiraj for Maximus. Whatever it took to get Max out. Step 5, Dump 2, chain blocking to get the Schism set up. Step 6, be a floodgate/Stun deck with a Mechaba, Fleur de lis, Winda, and Punishment.
As someone who is ranked silver most of the time, I agree fully. WHY ARE THERE NOTHING BUT SNAKE EYES IN SILVER?! If this was Diamond I would understand but Silver?
I pulled Flamberge in my own masochist account, albeit not a royal, but it’s still actually a really good boss monster. Essentially a snatch steal every 2 turns is pretty crazy.
Dark Doriado is pretty good, it gives you an attack boost to Wind, Fire, Water and Earth monsters per attribute you control, if anything it turns a lot of your lower level monsters into slightly bigger beat sticks. Also the Royal claus is cool, it's just like the Shiny claus in Pokemon Nuzlocks. If you happen to find a random Shiny, you can catch it even if you've already caught a Pokemon in that area. Royals aren't as hard to get but they certainly won't be common. It's not like you'll pull anything that will be super useful right away for the bonus pack.
The Royal Rule is fine imo, as it doesn't go against the spirit of the challenge. And it gives makes getting royals something to look forward for, even if the royal is a bad card.
so flamberge ist neat but now i have to think what would be the best singular card to pull. i would say lady labrynth probably as a 3k beater that can special herself and has protection by simply setting random shit
@@domimomi3954 the thing is s:p needs 2 monsters which isn't a given for a deck like this and typhon is less than 3k which konamie loves to make every card ever. they would be good but being reactive in nature i don't know if they can win the game fast enough wenn the rest of the deck does literally nothing in the games this talk matters. but being extradeck and easily summonable is definitely a massive boon i completely forgor
I kinda just hope for a Master Pack for any Royal Rare, since that still feels earned and in the spirit of the challenge. Though it is still very possible to whif on one random Secret Pack that is half a Master Pack anyway. This is the most fair way anyone has suggested including them.
As much as I like a hardliners masochist run I am a big fan of the Royal rule. I don't expect it to be a huge difference maker but hopefully it'll be enough to make the rare royals at least a potential include
Love the rule for royal rares. Adds a nice bonus to an otherwise useless upgrade since you cant dismantle it for dust to craft with. Also is uncommon enough to not give you an giant boost when you do get a royal rare
I think you may be overlooking Dark Doriado, since it has decent stats and some useful effects. The effect in the pendulum zone can easily give a 400 to 600 boost to some monsters, which is not amazing but doesn't seem so bad this early. The second effect seems much more powerful however, since you have Mimicking Man-eater Bug in your deck. I believe having a way to search for it can be quite useful even if that mean drawing monsters for the next turns, especially since you do have some relatively useful monsters in the other attributes (one exemple that comes to my mind would be Gagagigo and Mardark). I may be wrong however, but I think the card is neat and wanted to argue in favor of it ^^ Anyway, nice serie and I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
13:20 Invoked Shaddoll Dogmatika was a meta deck back when Swordsoul was new, it died when Bystials, PUNK, Adventure, and Regulus came out. The idea was to lead with the Invoked engine, then Nadir's Servant for a Maximus, which let you set up a Schism for Winda on the opponent turn
I really dig the royal rule! Very simple very fun. Feel like having it just be an extra master pack and not potentially 4 fully synergistic cards would be *better* for all royals but hey, fun rule to make them special!
I often use the opening quote "hard to say hard too leg" and because I live in Australia lotsa people misinterpret that in the most lewd ways possible 😂🤣 I'm waiting for the day where fornication becomes a sport you can watch on SBS just so I can hear the announcers it will be an accidental comedy of epic proportions
Hey, honest to God LegHead here, love the idea of getting a second pack every royal since it won't happen often/ever again in the series. You ever thought about banking your free packs to pull a 10 pack or would that be shooting yourself in the foot? Judging by your luck with single packs it just might.
I hear you singing Coheed and Cambria's A Favour House Atlantic. They're my favourite band. Also, royal rule feels like shinny clause in a nuzlock, I say giver. Sounds like fun and is an inclusion that makes the idea more appealing too me.
Possible combo option: Limited Barian's Force + any Rank 4 (Cologne) = Utopia Ray V. It doesn't do anything without a Utopia under it, but a 2600 beater is probably better than anything else we have.
Yes, yes, do the royal rare bonus! That's a very fun tweak that doesn't actively alter the run in a serious way (you could still get nothing) is great.
2:50 yeah in my 2nd masochist account i broke the rules by opening far more packs at the start (i didn't want to go through that starting hell again) but using guarenteed or crafted cards is over the line for masochist, the whole point is you rely on the will of the master packs
Dark Doriado is actually a pretty generically decent card for Masochist, especially if you're not doing chaos or anything, as its a field booster in your pend zone, and can stack the deck too(Not as useful but still nice).
video 3 of hardleg pulling cimo dream cards 😂 any of mimicking, ragweed, or that free special would be an easy addition to cimo's deck edit:i like the royal pack idea
Getting a secret pack when you open a royal seems too good, i dont think secret packs belong in masochist. But a bonus master pack to make royals feel more special sounds fun.
yeah, i like the rule, for me masochists new a little help getting packs because they become a little stale after they lock into a deck as 99% of the pulls are worthless, so every excuse to get bonus packs is fine by me
i love this series, if you can already make a already test and tried deck then it just operation and luck to win but... lol it fun when you open a pack and try to make it work that is like playing puzzle and you have no idea what the next piece is, would you have to make a new puzzle or the new piece would fit into your old puzzle ! this challenge the creativity of the player.
I’m fine with the Royal Rule, though you’ve probably already decided on it by now. Also I’m cracking up how many times you’ve gotten a monster from Two Frogs one Stick.
i think an extra master pack is nice, but getting an extra secret pack feels a bit too strong, part of the fun of challenge is the fact that the cards are from the biggest available pool and you have to pull something together from cards that will be mostly unrelated
I like the royal rule. Its like the "shiny clause" in pokemon nuzzlocke challenges. If you get a shiny even if its not your encounter you can catch it.
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Definitely fine with the new royal rule. It sets your series apart from others, and it means that pulling a royal for a strategy you can't currently play doesn't leave a bad taste.
He isn't the first to do it, first time I saw the same rule was by another TH-camr named Lordtrent
agree, he should keep this rule
Yep Trent started it, a few of us adopted it.
@@aquatikcamel4034 I wonder if this contributed to some Massochists having far more of an archetype available than you would've expected. That Cimoooooooo video where he fought a bunch of random massochists was very eye-opening, especially with the last 2
I would be so titled if it has turned out to help literally everybody but Trent 😂
Resolving Two Toads for a 3rd time? He can't keep getting away with this!!!
I never get tired of can't-be-bothered-to-read frogs trick xD
That's Joe's ace card fr
Ditto
I like the rule, it makes royals feel more special, and it is not like you will get a lot of them, so it wouldn't have a big impact on the card pool.
"American schools aren't that bad" BEAUTIFUL start
37:31 for Bad Apple on the top hat. Editor should do these more often lmao. Like when Hardleg sings that spiderman song
A Royal Flamberge Dragon! Crazy power jump.
I like the additional Master/Secret Pack if you pull a Royal Rare card.
Good episode Joe!
I love how nobody reads the best card in your deck and just give you free monsters
The charm of the series is it being a slow sealed progression. Getting 1 or even 2 extra packs for the rare occasion of a royal does not change that core feeling. So its definitively fine to ass it as some flavour. Same would go for example if you take an extra pack for a rank up.
Definitely better than using the Forbidden Droplet; it's still just rng that won't really add that much just speed up the progression a fraction of a percent lol
"its definitively fine to ass it as some flavour" is definitely a typo of all time
@@poopoo7107 lmao
Those crafty toads outsmarting many a duelist
Great editing makes this Masochist series less masochistic for the audience. Much appreciated!
Of all the possible royal URs, how poetic and hilarious it is for Flamberge to be the one to answer the call.
The Royal rule I feel is perfectly acceptable. Throws an extra needed bone to the masochist run.
Invoked shaddoll works by allowing Aleister to fuse with shaddolls to trigger their effects while dogmatika compliments shaddolls by sending their fusion effect monsters to the gy to trigger their effects while special summoning for free with either invoked or shaddoll fusions on the field. The combo is summon an invoked monster to protect yourself, make shaddoll fusions, then special ecclesia to add the dogmatika stuff after you finish fusion summoning.
Weird, I played it as a Mechaba first, then Digmatika searches to set up a Schism into Winda on the opponent's turn.
Step 1, Normal Al.
Step 2, the line to Mechaba.
Step 3, DPE side quest depends on if you had the money or not.
Step 4, Nadir Servant, Ecclesia, just or banish the Almiraj for Maximus. Whatever it took to get Max out.
Step 5, Dump 2, chain blocking to get the Schism set up.
Step 6, be a floodgate/Stun deck with a Mechaba, Fleur de lis, Winda, and Punishment.
As someone who is ranked silver most of the time, I agree fully. WHY ARE THERE NOTHING BUT SNAKE EYES IN SILVER?! If this was Diamond I would understand but Silver?
I am interested with the pilots: were they good or not?
I pulled Flamberge in my own masochist account, albeit not a royal, but it’s still actually a really good boss monster. Essentially a snatch steal every 2 turns is pretty crazy.
I love wtahcing these different masochist vids as i really enjoy seeing how different everyone's decks turn out being
Dark Doriado is pretty good, it gives you an attack boost to Wind, Fire, Water and Earth monsters per attribute you control, if anything it turns a lot of your lower level monsters into slightly bigger beat sticks.
Also the Royal claus is cool, it's just like the Shiny claus in Pokemon Nuzlocks. If you happen to find a random Shiny, you can catch it even if you've already caught a Pokemon in that area. Royals aren't as hard to get but they certainly won't be common. It's not like you'll pull anything that will be super useful right away for the bonus pack.
I am consistently amazed by how many people fall for Two Toads, one Sting. How hard can it possibly be to read cards?
The Royal Rule is fine imo, as it doesn't go against the spirit of the challenge. And it gives makes getting royals something to look forward for, even if the royal is a bad card.
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38:09
I swear to god, if you EVER get one of the 2 Material Number 39 monsters, YOU ARE ADDING BOTH OF THESE CARDS TO YOUR DECK.
_UNDERSTOOD?_
Hardleg can never escape the Warrior within him
That laugh was diabolical 27:47
so flamberge ist neat but now i have to think what would be the best singular card to pull. i would say lady labrynth probably as a 3k beater that can special herself and has protection by simply setting random shit
the best singular card would be Sp little knight or a card like Typhon.
@@domimomi3954 the thing is s:p needs 2 monsters which isn't a given for a deck like this and typhon is less than 3k which konamie loves to make every card ever. they would be good but being reactive in nature i don't know if they can win the game fast enough wenn the rest of the deck does literally nothing in the games this talk matters. but being extradeck and easily summonable is definitely a massive boon i completely forgor
15:07 wow i haven't heard that song in so many years that was a throwback to teenage times
I kinda just hope for a Master Pack for any Royal Rare, since that still feels earned and in the spirit of the challenge. Though it is still very possible to whif on one random Secret Pack that is half a Master Pack anyway. This is the most fair way anyone has suggested including them.
As much as I like a hardliners masochist run I am a big fan of the Royal rule. I don't expect it to be a huge difference maker but hopefully it'll be enough to make the rare royals at least a potential include
I like the royal rule. I feel that it should always be a master pack and not a secret pack though of the monster you get.
Great series, keep it up Joe. Also I think it's fair to get another pack after getting a royal rare, makes the format just a little bit spicier.
Love the rule for royal rares. Adds a nice bonus to an otherwise useless upgrade since you cant dismantle it for dust to craft with. Also is uncommon enough to not give you an giant boost when you do get a royal rare
Royal rule is good. Keep it. And Two Toads should be the mascot of the series. When it works, it's the highlight of the episode.
37:32 Bad apple jumpscare
I think you may be overlooking Dark Doriado, since it has decent stats and some useful effects.
The effect in the pendulum zone can easily give a 400 to 600 boost to some monsters, which is not amazing but doesn't seem so bad this early.
The second effect seems much more powerful however, since you have Mimicking Man-eater Bug in your deck. I believe having a way to search for it can be quite useful even if that mean drawing monsters for the next turns, especially since you do have some relatively useful monsters in the other attributes (one exemple that comes to my mind would be Gagagigo and Mardark).
I may be wrong however, but I think the card is neat and wanted to argue in favor of it ^^
Anyway, nice serie and I'll be waiting for the next episodes.
Im cool with the royal pack rule, I think Lord treant does it in his masochist series
13:20 Invoked Shaddoll Dogmatika was a meta deck back when Swordsoul was new, it died when Bystials, PUNK, Adventure, and Regulus came out.
The idea was to lead with the Invoked engine, then Nadir's Servant for a Maximus, which let you set up a Schism for Winda on the opponent turn
I'd say Keep the Royal Rare Rule, its a 1% chance on only SR and UR. which is already a miniscule chance
Honestly. The royal bonus seems nice because 1 pack per win with a masochist deck will take forever to get anywhere. And it's hype.
Royal rule is absolutely fine as this happens SO DAMN rarely. Go for it! :D
Two Toads has to be the best wincon for a masochist run
I really dig the royal rule! Very simple very fun. Feel like having it just be an extra master pack and not potentially 4 fully synergistic cards would be *better* for all royals but hey, fun rule to make them special!
Muscle medic has been the unintentional mascot of many masochist decks
I often use the opening quote
"hard to say hard too leg"
and because I live in Australia lotsa people misinterpret that in the most lewd ways possible 😂🤣
I'm waiting for the day where fornication becomes a sport you can watch on SBS just so I can hear the announcers it will be an accidental comedy of epic proportions
18:10 they didnt activate Mazera because keeping Unizombie on field just lets you deal more damage and shortens their clock
ahh yes i love the power of illiteracy :D
also i approve of the royal tax ^^
That last duel in a nutshell: " Dishonor on YOU, Dishonor on your COW!"
I'd say it's ok to open another pack if you pull a royal
Love the royal rule
Pull from the snake-eyes pack. If Mimicking wasnt enough, this will make Cimo boil in envy
Royal rares giving you an extra pack is well deserved imo. Keep the rule
Broooo, I’ve been championing the TOADS from the start! It’s your anime come back card every time😂
Holy #%!, you just pulled the Royal Flamberge!!!!
I absolutely LOOOOVE the sound effects!
Hey, honest to God LegHead here, love the idea of getting a second pack every royal since it won't happen often/ever again in the series. You ever thought about banking your free packs to pull a 10 pack or would that be shooting yourself in the foot? Judging by your luck with single packs it just might.
I hear you singing Coheed and Cambria's A Favour House Atlantic.
They're my favourite band.
Also, royal rule feels like shinny clause in a nuzlock, I say giver. Sounds like fun and is an inclusion that makes the idea more appealing too me.
Possible combo option: Limited Barian's Force + any Rank 4 (Cologne) = Utopia Ray V. It doesn't do anything without a Utopia under it, but a 2600 beater is probably better than anything else we have.
royals are 1% odds I say we keep the bonus rule because fun
Holy crap, was that a mother freaking Touhou reference?
Emry reporting for bot sighting duty lmao. Holy dang, 2 bots this time
Yes, yes, do the royal rare bonus! That's a very fun tweak that doesn't actively alter the run in a serious way (you could still get nothing) is great.
Have you got like, 4 successful Two Toads Takes now?? Definitely the final evidence that yugioh players truly cannot read
Royal Rare Rip is very much approved!
Never stop singing hardlegs
There are indeed Draw Bots that discard and pass.
2:50 yeah in my 2nd masochist account i broke the rules by opening far more packs at the start (i didn't want to go through that starting hell again) but using guarenteed or crafted cards is over the line for masochist, the whole point is you rely on the will of the master packs
If master duel has taught me anything, it is if the opponent gives me a card don't use it.
I once built Adventure Invoked Dogmatika Shaddoll!
Just for the funny acronym lol
Morinphen. From what I understand, it's the OCG's favorite meme vanilla.
I was there when the flamberge revealed itself, amazing!!!!
28:26 Cimo says it, I belive it, that settles it
keep doing the secret royal bonus. it makes sense and its awesome!!
invoked shaddol dogmatika is indeed a thing
Yeah, it was pretty decent on MD even up to around when DPE was released. Odd that Joe wouldn't be familiar with it.
Love the Royal Rare rule. Masochist is already insane challenge as is.
Maybe the Snake-Eyes players in Silver are trying to leave Silver quickly before the month ends.
Dark Doriado is actually a pretty generically decent card for Masochist, especially if you're not doing chaos or anything, as its a field booster in your pend zone, and can stack the deck too(Not as useful but still nice).
the "Royal Rule" is actually pretty decent, especially if it gives you a secret pack.
video 3 of hardleg pulling cimo dream cards 😂 any of mimicking, ragweed, or that free special would be an easy addition to cimo's deck
edit:i like the royal pack idea
27:30 - Huh... I guess it's just that easy to get what you deserve after that Blue Eyes duel. The Dragon has made his call
Getting a secret pack when you open a royal seems too good, i dont think secret packs belong in masochist. But a bonus master pack to make royals feel more special sounds fun.
yeah, i like the rule, for me masochists new a little help getting packs because they become a little stale after they lock into a deck as 99% of the pulls are worthless, so every excuse to get bonus packs is fine by me
Can't wait to have full power snake eyes by episode 12
i love this series, if you can already make a already test and tried deck then it just operation and luck to win but... lol it fun when you open a pack and try to make it work that is like playing puzzle and you have no idea what the next piece is, would you have to make a new puzzle or the new piece would fit into your old puzzle ! this challenge the creativity of the player.
15:20 that reference really makes me feel…. Vindicated
I'm glad someone gets it.
@@HardlegGaming Emo kids gotta stick together!
I hope you put in Dark Doriado as it either arranges your deck with monsters you want or has your monsters become slightly bigger beatsticks
Keep the Royal Bonus rule. That's an amazing pull.
We got treated to Bad Apple today! Wowie.
I like the Royal Rule. It gives the game a little more sauce.And I am always up for more spices.
I can only count from 1-cat. 1, 2...cat
Two Toads, one Sting still the mvp card🤣. U could make another rule where when u go from bronze to silver or to gold u get extra Masterpack
27:33 no shot, 1 or 2 more stray snake eyes cards and you have a combo to work with
I like the Royal Rule.
I've got the "JUICY" logo on my jeans
Love the royal rare rule
Your voice at 3:10 was wild haha
I like the royal rule
I like The Royal Rule Senor. Keep it going please.
I love the new rule!
Extra Pack for Royal sounds gravy to me
I like the royal rule.its rare enough so that it does not come out too often
Royal bonus good idea.
I’m fine with the Royal Rule, though you’ve probably already decided on it by now. Also I’m cracking up how many times you’ve gotten a monster from Two Frogs one Stick.
i think an extra master pack is nice, but getting an extra secret pack feels a bit too strong, part of the fun of challenge is the fact that the cards are from the biggest available pool and you have to pull something together from cards that will be mostly unrelated
I like the royal rule. Its like the "shiny clause" in pokemon nuzzlocke challenges. If you get a shiny even if its not your encounter you can catch it.