First thing, the super skinny long tool at 3:29. That is impressive. I take it that collision control was within HyperMill? Not Third Party? Catia looks like inferior software if it can't do this job. I don't know why the Aerospace industry basically demands you to use Catia. Quite powerful in its own right. Many features for modeling, not just machining, because a Plane does have a mass variety of components. But for Cam, far as I know, toolpaths are tricky to maneuver. Barrel cutter toolpaths are hard for it to do I think.
Hello Gredangeo yes the whole programming was done in hyperMILL and the collision control is also calculated in hyperMILL. Check out our website www.openmind-tech.com to find out more about hyperMILL 5Axis Machining.
They use Catia because that's what they've been using, switching over to a new program would require alot of remodeling and who knows about all the ancillary management type softwares that pull from Catia. Basically Catia was there in the beginning.
@@spazzywhitebelt The problem is, the engineers can use Catia all they want. It's independent companies being tasked to machine the parts, are forced to use Catia for Cam. In order to use a different Cam, you have to be a Sub Contractor. You're not allowed to be the first to bid on the part. This is basically what happened to someone else I know. Instead of taking overflow parts from a parent company, they wanted to bid first, but had to switch software in order to do so.
@@gredangeo wow that sounds like a hassle, i didn't realize that was the case nor did i know catia had cam capabilities. I'm sure there's a reason but I'm not sure there's a good one for that requirement haha.
@@spazzywhitebelt There's no real good reason. It's just that if you use Catia, you can easily get an updated model for the Cam portion. And they prefer that verification I guess. Catia is expensive af, due to the proprietary nature in the Aerospace industry. Therefore it is often cheaper to be a Sub Contractor. Other software is just better and easier to use. You'd never see this nonsense in the Auto industry. Can't make a car cheap enough, if that was the case. So oddly enough, if you get Catia, you must be making primarily aircraft parts to justify the price.
while removing the finished piece from the machine, if the operator said anything other than "nothing but net" he/she should be fired immediately, out of a canon, into the sun.
Since there are a lot of CAM software able to do these things impressively, next question that comes to mind is how easy/difficult, how many hours were spent to create the program. That should be the key thing to look for if I were to buy a new CAM software..
I have a good feeling that the software writes ALOT of the code itself once you imput the 3D object you want to produce. Software itself probably costs a hundred thousand or more, forget the multi-million dollar machine needed to produce it.
While software probably does to a lot of it, even the manually programmed parts can probably be done parametrically and copy/pasted. it's quite a feat anyhow!
Program: Is a CAD file = 3D model + u set what Surface with what tool. 3D model = time?? + i think a Post processor take the CAD file and make coordinates out of it = probably 5-Xhours (depends what cpu). And that can make more than Millions of commands (G0/G1/G2 + coordinates) And the runtime can be more than hours or days of just milling. I love it and i am proud that is my work and passion
As someone who's written and developed 3-axis CAM algorithms for planning and generating machining operation toolpaths this takes the cake. EDIT: It is humbling!
This is absolutely unbelievable! This is the future of all machining! Holy shit that precision!
What a great demo. Saw it at IMTS in the Grob booth. Very impressive.
You don't even show the best part. How you get the stock out, and finish, the inside at the very bottom, then separate it from the base.
This remind me of looney tunes when bugs cuts a tree and lathes it into a tooth pick 🤣
I am always curious how long it takes to program these projects Open Mind does. How long did it take and what was the machine time?
Saw a link with this clip on facebook just this morning, and there was a response in there that it took over 30 hours
Ya, that sounds about right considering all that detail. That's stupidly fast when you think about it.
First thing, the super skinny long tool at 3:29. That is impressive. I take it that collision control was within HyperMill? Not Third Party?
Catia looks like inferior software if it can't do this job. I don't know why the Aerospace industry basically demands you to use Catia. Quite powerful in its own right. Many features for modeling, not just machining, because a Plane does have a mass variety of components. But for Cam, far as I know, toolpaths are tricky to maneuver. Barrel cutter toolpaths are hard for it to do I think.
Hello Gredangeo yes the whole programming was done in hyperMILL and the collision control is also calculated in hyperMILL. Check out our website www.openmind-tech.com to find out more about hyperMILL 5Axis Machining.
They use Catia because that's what they've been using, switching over to a new program would require alot of remodeling and who knows about all the ancillary management type softwares that pull from Catia. Basically Catia was there in the beginning.
@@spazzywhitebelt The problem is, the engineers can use Catia all they want. It's independent companies being tasked to machine the parts, are forced to use Catia for Cam. In order to use a different Cam, you have to be a Sub Contractor. You're not allowed to be the first to bid on the part.
This is basically what happened to someone else I know. Instead of taking overflow parts from a parent company, they wanted to bid first, but had to switch software in order to do so.
@@gredangeo wow that sounds like a hassle, i didn't realize that was the case nor did i know catia had cam capabilities. I'm sure there's a reason but I'm not sure there's a good one for that requirement haha.
@@spazzywhitebelt There's no real good reason. It's just that if you use Catia, you can easily get an updated model for the Cam portion. And they prefer that verification I guess. Catia is expensive af, due to the proprietary nature in the Aerospace industry. Therefore it is often cheaper to be a Sub Contractor. Other software is just better and easier to use.
You'd never see this nonsense in the Auto industry. Can't make a car cheap enough, if that was the case. So oddly enough, if you get Catia, you must be making primarily aircraft parts to justify the price.
while removing the finished piece from the machine, if the operator said anything other than "nothing but net" he/she should be fired immediately, out of a canon, into the sun.
"fired immediately, out of a canon, into the sun" Nice futurama reference!
Will Sherer too funny lol
Since there are a lot of CAM software able to do these things impressively, next question that comes to mind is how easy/difficult, how many hours were spent to create the program. That should be the key thing to look for if I were to buy a new CAM software..
I have a good feeling that the software writes ALOT of the code itself once you imput the 3D object you want to produce.
Software itself probably costs a hundred thousand or more, forget the multi-million dollar machine needed to produce it.
While software probably does to a lot of it, even the manually programmed parts can probably be done parametrically and copy/pasted. it's quite a feat anyhow!
Lol at all of the comments saying this is wasting time and energy, yet they're posted in TH-cams comment section.
and CNC machining is responsible for the infrastructure that makes the internet possible!
Holy mother of machining
Which operation used at 0:30 sec.
OSG, amazing tools!
Paulo Juni
William bell music
next up - mill some nylon stockings!
How long to program this, how big is the program, and what kind of run time in the machine??
Program: Is a CAD file = 3D model + u set what Surface with what tool.
3D model = time?? + i think a Post processor take the CAD file and make coordinates out of it = probably 5-Xhours (depends what cpu).
And that can make more than Millions of commands (G0/G1/G2 + coordinates)
And the runtime can be more than hours or days of just milling.
I love it and i am proud that is my work and passion
Impressive!
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Very impressive
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Nice job
Nice Job,somone knows the name of first track ??
Same question here. Does anyone know the title of the first music piece?
Very good
if only my dentist had one of these
Amazing..
Well that was expensive...How many hours on the machine?
the Machining time took almost 5 days we guess you can imagine the finishing time for the net.
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Yeh very impressive, suppose if you’ve got plenty money and the resources you can spend time fannying about and showing off doing stuff like this.
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Wow, even the little welds were copied
это просто охренено!
hyper, hyper
NO WAY
Yes way.
As someone who's written and developed 3-axis CAM algorithms for planning and generating machining operation toolpaths this takes the cake. EDIT: It is humbling!
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Cool demo but Not...practical at all.
Aside from the gross waste of material, a great bit of machining.
swarf just gets melted down and put into the next mold.
It's very impressive, But this is absolutely wasting material and energy!
OMG. What a waste od energy and materials. Easier and cheaper is to use an alluminium wire to make the net.
you obviously don't get the message of the video.
Such waste of time and material.
Ka_mook and you are you are a waste of space