rrtyui was right. just enjoy game. I've been playing for almost 11 years now and it still hasn't gotten old. I've taken long breaks every now and then but my love for this silly circle clicking game grows stronger every time I log in ❤
I think as we get older, we have to start prioritizing things other than osu. While I believe “time apart makes the heart grow fonder” it also gives you skill issue which isn’t fun to deal with…
Of course, none of us will stay on osu forever, creators and players come and go in this everchanging content landscape. Some of the people that still play osu consistently might be doing it to either have some escape from reality or as you said, see their rank and skill grow. I've been in both these situations but as I approached my twenties, I realised I don't need to constantly play when I can just go out and go for a drink with my friends. Mentally I feel I'm in a better place than I was 3 or 4 years ago.
You damn right 😂 I play now, but it has decreased to 1-2 times a week. And sometimes not even the whole 2 weeks. I much rather chill with my friends in person and develop connections with people. I rather workout and learn other skills and just grow as a person. And I study a lot in college so I don't have as much time. I'm still improving tho, but there is no urge to go on osu constantly. Seeing my rank increasing no matter the rate is just satisfying in general so I don't need to try hard and grind consistently, just when I have time and nothing else hop on the game
I'm a mapper who plays the game regularly (we exist, I think?) and I wanted to give a bit of feedback about the mapping portion. The main problem I have is that fun is extremely subjective! the ussewa map is genuinly one my favorite to play in the entire game because I find the sliders rly satisfying to hit. I can def understand why these types of maps wouldn't appeal to the majority of players however and I do agree that the current ranked section is probably weighted too heavily in "mapping theory" territory rather than playability. I think it's kind of a result of the 2017-2020 era where hyper-farm maps were getting ranked so now mappers are (whether they realize it or not) apprehensive about falling anywhere near that umbrella. I do think that this is gonna change soon though, the community has been pretty loud about wanting more simple stuff (especially jumps) in the ranked section the past few months and from being quite active in the mapping sphere, mappers are starting to agree. case in point : wafer's do the flop map that was ranked about 3 days ago.
I definitely have to agree. A lot of people say that new maps arent fun anymore, but there are so many fun to play maps of all skillsets getting ranked nowadays. Only thing that I could maybe complain is, like you said, no simple maps are getting ranked. And on more complex maps its pretty difficult to learn new skillsets like HR, DT or EZ
To be honest id find map below 2017 era more fun to play, well idk why nowadays mappers really care about structure or whatever that song representation bullshit thing is. I find mapper like nold, narcissu, alyce, kencho, frostmourne, guy, angelhoney, cryo maps is more appealing to play and farm rather the new gen mapper. anw its only my opinion
This videos are really good, even if you don't want to make osu! content (which, you know, fair), i think it would be great to watch you on other topics that you enjoy more ! I really hope you suceed in your journey ! And btw, as a catch player, good luck on completion :D
I started playing around this time last year and. I can say as a lowly 6 digit Ive been having so much fun. Gameplay in my skill group feels so varied and interesting. I still have attainable goals. And I can play with the people around me without sweating and freaking out if Im not perfect. Honestly I think the ceiling has gotten so high that people are forgetting what's actually fun about the game and what made it fun when it was released.
Damn my experience is pretty similar, I had 2 years of progress and then 3 years of stagnation (maybe 50pp gain in 2 years), I also find myself going back to tv size jump maps now and it somewhat feels refreshing. I think the global interest peaked with Vaxei/Whitecat era then went down because of how similar and numerous top players and pp plays ended up being. Now I don't even flinch when I see a 1k pp play made by a random dude on a random speed map. I feel like Mrekk or Akolibed aren't as mythic as Shige or Vaxei, they just appear as "extremely good players" and not "players that made the game what it is" It's just my personal opinion of course
I feel EXACTLY the same way. I think it's the same effect with the "MrBeast type videos", with literally every video being super unbelievably insane that we end up feeling desensitized to it all. All these insane speed players are no doubt, INSANE, and highly skilled at the game. But now we've become desensitized to these insane scores and insanely high pp plays because we've seen it so much. With Shige and Vaxei, they were SO FAR ahead of their time that they appeared mythical.
Great video man! But another factor that I think makes the game boring is the lack of playing other game genres, I played mania for 2 years and when I hit the infamous skill wall i got pretty sad, so my solution was taking a break of vrsgs and playing other stuff, like metroidvanias or a puzzle game.
I cant discuss the production quality and facts that have been said in this video, but wanting to get better at the game again listening to this, really just made me sad tbh
when i first started playing, seeing that i had an exact rank with distinct top plays that i can do without any multiplayer was really interesting since every other game i know has ELO that requires you to play with other people. just doing a casual grind, listening to music i liked, seeing top players do things that blew my mind, and watching all the existing osu content made for a great experience. now, im at a huge skill wall that would require me to be really dedicated to get past, i am familiarized with the game mechanics so watching top players isnt as interesting to me anymore, osu content creation is dead, and i dont enjoy most of the music that gets ranked anymore like i used to. its nothing special really. its just a thing that happens as time goes on.
I feel that. Nothing really feels the same anymore. Society has changed as a whole and at first glance everything seems bad. If you look hard enough, though, you will find some of the most beautiful things you will ever see. I never got into osu!standard due to its absolutely ludicrous difficulty, but I do play many other rhythm games (primarily 4key & beatsaber). I’m at that first stage you mentioned where I’m seeing rapid growth and getting huge dopamine hits from it. However, I wonder if it will die out just as many other things much more important have or if it will stay with me like my over 7k hours in platform-fighters (I’m ~16+1/2 btw lol). Everything may seem grim right now, but maybe if you look in the most obscure crevices, you can find something truly marvelous.
My favorite micro celebrity o7 The boomer hands are real man, and I’m already at seven years played and had several hiatuses with osu. Life does get in the way, since gaming in general isn’t a main focus anymore. feelsoldgeman.
@@SaowAngel I’ve actually got back into playing again, and I’m slowly gaining my skills back 😅 I’ve been playing more gacha games like NIKKE and Arknights 😂
Best way to improve is to stop playing a lot, which is really hard for me since i love this game too much. I found that taking breaks and coming back to the game helps my consistency (whether it be mental or skill). Right now, im stuck at 26k and I hope to eventually get a 400pp play. Im sure you'll have your popoff moment one of these days! I was stuck at around 60k for a time before I got to the rank I am! Love the video ❤❤❤
yo im 23k rn, but i was 30k less than a month ago. You're actually right by saying that taking a break helps. I tried to switch to tablet 2 weeks ago, played like absolute shit for like a week, felt like shit, got depressed cuz i played mouse once inbetween sessions and was much worse than i was before i picked up tablet. 2 days later, I played tablet a bit more, thought to myself: "bro im not getting used to tablet fuck this shit lmao", went offline with a nickname "fuck tablet" and lowered my dpi from 1000 to 900. Now im 23k and pushing, got 9 300s and 5 350+pp plays yesterday in one session. It really be ya mental that hinders you.
As a new player coming into the game (I've introduced some friends as well), osu! simply appears to have a skill slope that is hard to appreciate nowadays. Spending 3 hours grinding only to see no obvious improvement on the surface when instead you can just go doom scroll shorts just makes it a hard sell. It certainly is still fun and I'm enjoying it, but already a lot of my friends have given up. I do expect when osu! gets released as a mobile game it is going to explode a bit in popularity, but that's going to be up to how the devs decided touchscreen scoring. Funny that I make a video (shameless promo) on phone osu! and then they drop a touchscreen bomb.
Cool perspective. I do think you're onto something with the content only revolving around top player drama or new skill caps. I liked you're content because it was nice to hear from how things are going on with people around my skill range. I tried my first tournament after watching your tournament video, and now I've done 10 since then made some great memories there! But yes, at the end of the day you have to realize there are more important things. osu! has cost me at least a job or two and many other important things skipped out on due to playing so much of it, so I'm aware that at this phase of my life, it's slowly slipping into more of a background piece, and that that is a good thing in the long run.
9:20 This is so true. I started playing osu! in high school (2015) too. However, as I grow up, in college, I learn the HARD way that time is important. Being drawn into osu! had punished me by making me lose many opportunities in college, both in academic and in life. When I cant endure the pain anymore, I stopped playing. Since then, I have been catching up with other people. There is still large gap of 2 years between me and other people, but I have already closed so much of the gap, and I am so proud of myself now. From that point on, "osu!" that I know is no longer there. Whenever I boot it up and play it again, the feeling is not the same anymore, and probably will never be again. Those childish times that I have had with this game was definitely fun. But, now, it's time to move on. I hope you will find a good life too!
i for now dont have any issues with osu because i've accepted being bad and just play for fun playing low diff maps with dthr, somewhat playing for completion, hunting for some leaderboard placements etc. I really dont care about being 302k, i just like playing the game ( i have like 1450SS's and 2300S's in a year, ) I like playing flashlight and everything, so weirdly enough only my life and obligations encroach on me playing osu.
@@millyyeasmin7904 oh yeah sorry ofc, but i know i have physical and psychological hindrances that i dont think i would be able to circumvent in order to be good, such as my decaying eyesight, easily pained wrist, sticking with mouse and a shitty keyboard, bad mindset when farming etc. so i just stick to what im having fun on ( and also im just honestly bad at the game xD ) P.S.: i also cant manage to use two fingers when tapping, so i singletap litterally everything i play.
another perspective of tourneys as a staff/weekly dose of 5 digits guy After 5WC (which was perfect for its own good), it felt like every other tourney since is/was trying to match its perfection and killed off creativity even for draft tourneys favoring superteam building rather than fun w/ friends. And there's also a battle between tourney hosts and players as well *because* of this as breaking monotony of tourneys means players won't be as comfortable, team sheets will be scuffed, too little skillsets focused etc. e.g. Konoha Cup where we tried a 5-mappool qualifiers with long maps, but players are like nah this is bad change it back Also, about this glaring problem that tourneys are too long, badged criteria is a minimum of RO16 w/ double elim and forcing faster tourneys might mean playing multiple mappools/different rounds in the same weekend and it can work, but it feels like a "finish a tourney in less than 1 month (IMPOSSIBLE)" kinda deal And finally, why I stopped weekly dose of 5 digits is that I don't really cover drama since it just paints a negative side of us 5 digits, and also the usual "tourneys are too stale/dragged out" thing, on top of school piling up so yea I hope I can enjoy osu again one day, whether as a player, staff or content creation too
Not gonna lie, IMO it did get fixed in Osu Lazer. I never improved at all same as you, 45 days played and holy shit im dog shit, but in Osu Lazer there's this mod called Random and wow it really did make maps more fun now and the 1.15x Double Speed was really nice for me and AR Changes is nice because I can't read too fast, but yeah. IMO Osu Lazer really did bring back the fire for me. Great Videos nonetheless though!
i can give the REAL answer >.> it's because while Osu is pretty good, it's not like the PEAK of rhythm games like some of it's players make it out to be. It really won last year's rhythm game poll like it's the best rhythm game out there? wtf? Many games out there like beatsaber and sound voltex are much superior. Some even double as exercise lol. Osu is just...meh. Me and other longtime players since like 2015 have moved on to Osumania or osutaiko because they're also great and very underrated. But yeah, that's my brutally honest take
@@SaowAngel yeah and like, osu is still good but not like the literal best. it also can be run on a potato so it's gonna be the most popular regardless, yeah
beat saber requires VR. sound voltex requires going somewhere loud and spending a shit ton of money. they can be more fun but osu is essentially 4 rhythm games with endless maps for free and can run on almost anything. thats going to be really hard to beat.
played the game for WAYYY too long rn, 2016 was prolly the year i enjoyed the game most (both casually and competitively). now i simply have "better" things to do other than clicking circles
As someone who decided to quit osu for good after almost 4 years of playing a few months ago this video echoes my closing sentiments about the game so well, especially the mapping segment. I thought it was just me but the ranked segment just felt dominated by uninteresting maps or 'gimmicks' that weren't fun to play after April 2023 and I never found anything that gave me the 'spark' that I loved in the first place, except maps one of my friends made. Combining that with some unfortunate injuries and exam stress led to my passion for playing the game going completely. I found another love in tournament commentary work but I even decided to quit that due to university, life just goes on I suppose. If I have a few regrets it's that I never got a 300 or the chance to face you and Emrik's team in IVC1 all the way back in 2021, that would've been an incredible match to play.
If only we didn't throw our first match and got sent to losers in the first round then we could've played 😭 unfortunately everyone from ase quit so we can't even do a show match 😶 I think we kinda had the same path with the game. Although i wouldn't say i quit, but i've kinda kept playing just for yt
the video was pretty interesting but i disagree with the ryuusei aika example, you are 70k ofc you wont be able to play a 7 star tech map, it's not fun because you're not the audience and it's also not a good example of the modern style maps, but I get your point and agree
bro I never even got good at osu! but I still feel you. I started playing late into my university years and couldn't even play 5* maps well but it used to be so fun and even help me deal with emotional stress and get rid of excess energy. Now I barely have enough energy to work overtime and my primary emotion is tiredness lol. When I have some free time to spare after work, I like to play more slow paced games like BG3 recently. I think osu! is the type of game that only a minority of people are still wanting or able to play regularly in their adult lives.
I feel so nostalgic for the times when I just laid on the bed with my mouse and membrane keeb and rapidly improve. Later I'd sit at my desk on a gaming chair with my tablet and mech and grind for my first 40 hundred pp scores. Now I have played the game for around 5 years, my top play is 172pp and osu really doesn't feel the same.
Ive been playing mania for 8 years and i cant describe how much i agree with every word in the video. Every single point applies to mania too. Fell off
I've played on and off since 2014 and you pretty quickly lose both the time and reflexes to even maintain your skill level. This can get in the way of simply enjoying the game casually, and I mostly play offline now. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the former top players who grew up and disappeared still played very casually offline now and then. By the way this video was done really well, refreshing to see actual good content for this game rather than pisslow shorts
Unfortunately/fortnuately I havent reached that point just yet even though im not really doing things like improving either. Im glad to have a variety of games I can cycle through, and also playing complete other games I usually dont. So atleast if I come back to osu, it doesnt feel too bad every once in a while. But then again im not the person who hang around in osu for nearly 7 years, so I cant really tell. Have a great day!
Here's my two cents I started 3 years ago, i was hoping to get gud like everyone else, i was also hoping to get competitive because i thought i was getting good fast enough... 6 months later i started playing tournaments. I was kept being on the lowest end for years but i thought it's just my skill level being low at the time and it was gonna get better.... It only barely got better, but still not good enough for most tournaments even in my range, best I've done is getting to semis (well i did get to finals and even won a few odd ones that were early, but I don't count these). I think it might have destroyed my will to improve as even after tourneys i would struggle to improve at anything, well i always liked to see small improvements from last time but that is not enough if you want to be as good as an average player, let alone deranker level. A few people accused me of being a deranker (likely as a joke though since it was very few people) and i was like "why I can't get to deranker level, i played longer than them" and recently (like some months ago) I didn't play tournaments as much anymore, maybe i will play one every now and then but definitely not often. I also stopped chasing the rank improvement as well since i had to play very specific maps to farm, and I can't always pick the normal maps to farm (or maybe I'm just subconsciously avoiding some of them). So now i play other games, but every now and then play osu to enjoy maps (or to do mappooling)
Wow I really played osu! for entirely different reasons. I was hyper casual and just enjoyed being unranked maps that did stuff interesting. My enjoyment came from just scrolling through recently updated and trying out a bunch of stuff. Sorting out what sucks and what was great. Then I would share that with others in multiplayer lobbies. I'm retired as a player for now, but it happened due to never becoming a notable mapper. I had a new game to spend tons of time in and I didn't feel obligated to continue creating for the community when I was so under the radar. It's hard to come back since I play worse than before and that's just kinda annoying. Derusting is rough lol.
I almost quit osu 2 year ago if i didnt discover lazer. Lazer community is super small and almost everyone know each other. 2 year ago i find it boring to open the game and stop improving but now when i open the game i look forward to play with every one and have fun and now i begin to improve again eventhough my improvement is a bit slow now because im busy with university
Also peppy joining our multi once in a while and spectate us and roasting us is pretty funny. I still remember that one time i bug report lazer multi spectate delay and went to sleep while all my friend in multi with peppy getting roasted by him for a slow wifi eventhough a lot of us have a pretty fast wifi and it actually the game problem
ngl although im just coming back to osu since when i downloaded it in july of this year i didnt take it seriously and didnt have a account, but now ever since i played my first mania map everything has changed for me and now im an addict
as someone who only tried out osu recently (have been aware of it for years but didnt really spend enough time on the PC to get into it) the mapping and searchability on the website have been huge issues for me, with no nostalgia to cloud my judgement. even when using the appropriate filters, it's really hard to find maps that are at my level. i mainly play osu mania and osu taiko bc i dont wanna use my drawing tablet for this lol. and i get that those have less maps made for them to begin with (or at least... it seems like it) but even when i find something that i can actually finish, its like a 5% chance that the map will actually be enjoyable. like you said, lots of them don't really seem to fit the song all that well, and some of the ones that do are just really repetitive or dont really add any interesting beat to the song. and dont get me started how even if you like a popular artist, good luck finding a map for a song of theirs that ISNT the millionth map for the anime OP/ED they made. like really guys, how many KICK BACK maps do i have to scroll through to find something different? ive considered making my own maps because of all this, but yeesh. imagine trying to get into a game to have a good time and then up front being met with the reality that if you wanna have fun you might have to make your own stuff from scratch. im not new to rhythm games either, so its not like im looking for something a 5 year old could complete, i just want something for intermediate skill, or at least not aimed at people who can hit 10 beats a second. and on the note of the game looking ugly, why is osu mania set off to a little part of the side of the screen like that? the visibility is horrible i don't like complaining too much about it, because at the end of the day someone put in the effort to make and share all this for free, but its had me turn back towards other rhythm games. if anyone has recommendations for some fun/creative maps that are medium-hard (not extreme) pls let me know!
I was top 800 on standard back in like 2021~2022 But the game got really stressful to play the moment i hit my physical skill cap for this game While trying to overcome that skill cap while having real life stuff is really a demotivator for this game while also watching top players with close playtime as me getting crazy scores.
I think the large spike in players in around 2020 - 2021 is the fact that was around the time COVID happened, and everyone was home doing not a whole lot. but now things are back to normal (relatively) and you can see the player base is around the same as pre-pandemic numbers.
I started in 2015, and since the end of 2022 i've hit a huge slowdown in progress for gaining pp and such. It's most likely a reason why i'm considering quitting, on top of not very many good nomod stream maps are getting ranked now so most of the scores i've gotten that i wanted to get are unranked.
On a scale from 1-10 how silly did you feel falling over in that field? Loved the vid btw, I wouldn’t say it’s dying, just returning to normal after Covid
I discovered osu! when I was six never played it nor thought about it again. Rediscovered the game in middle school from a classic video with the nightcore remix of Rockefeller Street, forgot to look it up when I got home and never thought about it, again. Re-re-discovered it I’m my junior year of high school and I’ve been hyper fixated ever since. Idk why I’m commenting this but whatever
5:17 is so true the max diff on hand crushed by a mallet is the best exsample there schuld be a slider vc limit for ranking cus the max diff is givinge in catch for a 2 miss EZ HT FL pass 1.1k the slider absue can't let not even the top catch player to fc the map :/
i agree with most points beside on the beatmaps side, there are still a lot of maps that are simple that keep coming out, and as a long time player i haven't found myself not being able to find more good simple mapping. i believe everyone should play what maps that give them joyment. i think the mappinp there is now i more complex, not easy to learn, and thats why its frustrating for most players but with that there are a lot of other things to play. its kind of hard to say, but this a solo game. if you're not enjoying the gameplay and songs without everything thats surrounding it, you wont be able to enjoy the game for a long time. therefor, enjoy the songs and maps there are, and from my eyese there is everything. and if you cant, dont play - there is nothing that there is to complain about. thats the game! and if u dont like it, dont play it now there are lot of things that the community and development team can do to make this game better and more enjoyable, but the gameplay is something you MUST love in order to do anything else in the game. fire video as usual
You know... thinks wont be always the same. Eventually your enthusiasm for everything you once loved will subside. I Personally love osu because I enjoy the music and improving at it. (even if this aint always the case) But man, do yourself a favor and stop playing the game. It just makes it worse if you can't enjoy it, and thats ok.. Distance yourself from all the e-drama, bad content and statistics. Also stop becoming depressed over just anothrt game for no reason and take a break.
I feel like I should probably quit too but I just waited 8 months for a wooting uwu and for some reason also bought a drunk deer a75. do you think there’s some Sunk cost fallacy in playing osu for so long?
the mapping section of this video is so ironic how it mentions early 2020 maps when maps back then were critized for being the biggest garbage ever because of how simple and boring they were, and how basically all of them were the same thing with the same rhythm being around the game since 2014, this is probably the 30th time I'm hearing every single thing in the video
I dont agree with your opinion on ryussei aika maps or newly ranked maps, theyre not fun for you because youre simply not good enough to play them. You cant gauge the patterns nor comprehend the patterns and those simpler aim maps are fun and nice to play for you because you can actually play the simple maps. Nothing can be fun if you have no idea whats going on in the screen. Playing a 8 star high velocity slider map as a high 5 digit, you might aswell turn your monitor off and just mash your keyboard and flick your tablet pen. The game is fun because we can play with the song and challenge ourselves
honestly the new low SR maps aren't fun either though. he just used a well known example, it'd take a whole other video to comprehensively cover how pretentious and not fun the ranked section is.
The reason why osu started to dwindle in popularity was because it became so much about pp and isolated play rather than building a community experience. It also didn't help that mapping had long since become a stale joke, resulting in lackluster maps from the same few individuals and their friends. In the beginning, it was different. Osu was approachable, it was community oriented. Sure, things weren't prim and polished, but that wasn't the point back then. It was a fledgling community that liked a game, and it was passionate about it. The dawn of osu, from late 2007 through to 2010 or so, was about a small, tight-knit community that wanted to make new content and both map and play songs they loved. When osu grew into a more stable community, it started expanding and it entered its golden age, from about 2011 to 2013. Tournaments, some of the greatest maps, mappers, and players, and constant improvements poured in. Osu had finally struck it big, and nothing was slowing it down. Even in 2014, this momentum still was there to some extent. 2015 was the point where osu started declining. Mapping standards plummeted, problematic BNs arose, and low quality maps were speedranked as favours got exchanged. Monstrata and Sotarks really defined the age of decline here, as they would try to speedrank maps without regards to quality, adherence to rules and guidelines, or much modding and debate. There have been minor resurgences in quality or popularity since then, but osu will never again approach the popularity it had in its dawn and golden ages. 2014 itself was really a silver age in and of itself, but eventually, people really stopped caring about having the same community experience that made the game popular to begin with.
Its not that u necessary compare urself, but that its so easy to do it. Top players get attention for obivious reasons, so when u take a look at them. It feels like theres no one but them. Met players that just say "aslong as u are not in the Top 100, u are worthless and not worth talking about". Which I do not totally agree with, but yeah it does happen.
the graph doesnt really show a decline it's about the same as it was pre covid, every game grew with covid and then died down a little after it slowed down.
People just move on and find different games to play. It's crazy that a game about clicking circles has been going so hard for so long, un less Osu finds a fresh influx in players I don't really see it live up again.
For me - mrekk was just the first guy to be too much. Anyone before shige is kinda chill, shige is slow, and the rest are just a 10-15% improvement from previous top players in terms of raw skill... Everyone before mrekk was just showing the game mastery and a bit of talent, but this dude has become physical There's not much game mastery left for him, circles have become a mere framework of speed, so now he plays maps that are out of reach of most 3 digits even with relax - he just stripped achievements away from the game Even badeu quit, saying "the game has become too competitive", and that's true For a game to continue - you can't win 100% of the time, and mrekk did just that, killing the fun for the rest
Off topic, but damn, never know you are really skilled at cooking! When's your going to make a cooking tutorial?
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make a cooking channel!
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as a great player once said "enjoy game"
"Plz enjoy game" :D
rrtyui was right. just enjoy game. I've been playing for almost 11 years now and it still hasn't gotten old. I've taken long breaks every now and then but my love for this silly circle clicking game grows stronger every time I log in ❤
I think as we get older, we have to start prioritizing things other than osu. While I believe “time apart makes the heart grow fonder” it also gives you skill issue which isn’t fun to deal with…
Fuck skill issue, all my homies love sliders
fire editing, telling a story with it is really fascinating
I need to learn to do that as well
I like to see that
Of course, none of us will stay on osu forever, creators and players come and go in this everchanging content landscape. Some of the people that still play osu consistently might be doing it to either have some escape from reality or as you said, see their rank and skill grow. I've been in both these situations but as I approached my twenties, I realised I don't need to constantly play when I can just go out and go for a drink with my friends. Mentally I feel I'm in a better place than I was 3 or 4 years ago.
i felt that so much
You damn right 😂
I play now, but it has decreased to 1-2 times a week. And sometimes not even the whole 2 weeks. I much rather chill with my friends in person and develop connections with people. I rather workout and learn other skills and just grow as a person. And I study a lot in college so I don't have as much time. I'm still improving tho, but there is no urge to go on osu constantly. Seeing my rank increasing no matter the rate is just satisfying in general so I don't need to try hard and grind consistently, just when I have time and nothing else hop on the game
I'm a mapper who plays the game regularly (we exist, I think?) and I wanted to give a bit of feedback about the mapping portion.
The main problem I have is that fun is extremely subjective! the ussewa map is genuinly one my favorite to play in the entire game because I find the sliders rly satisfying to hit.
I can def understand why these types of maps wouldn't appeal to the majority of players however and I do agree that the current ranked section is probably weighted too heavily in "mapping theory" territory rather than playability. I think it's kind of a result of the 2017-2020 era where hyper-farm maps were getting ranked so now mappers are (whether they realize it or not) apprehensive about falling anywhere near that umbrella.
I do think that this is gonna change soon though, the community has been pretty loud about wanting more simple stuff (especially jumps) in the ranked section the past few months and from being quite active in the mapping sphere, mappers are starting to agree. case in point : wafer's do the flop map that was ranked about 3 days ago.
It's going to be a cycle, jumps will be big then years later back to what we have now lmao
I definitely have to agree. A lot of people say that new maps arent fun anymore, but there are so many fun to play maps of all skillsets getting ranked nowadays. Only thing that I could maybe complain is, like you said, no simple maps are getting ranked. And on more complex maps its pretty difficult to learn new skillsets like HR, DT or EZ
To be honest id find map below 2017 era more fun to play, well idk why nowadays mappers really care about structure or whatever that song representation bullshit thing is. I find mapper like nold, narcissu, alyce, kencho, frostmourne, guy, angelhoney, cryo maps is more appealing to play and farm rather the new gen mapper.
anw its only my opinion
This videos are really good, even if you don't want to make osu! content (which, you know, fair), i think it would be great to watch you on other topics that you enjoy more ! I really hope you suceed in your journey ! And btw, as a catch player, good luck on completion :D
Thank you! i'll probably still make osu content here and there but anything that doesn't make me play the game lmao. Maybe a catch video in the future
@@SaowAngel I mean, explaining why catch isn't a mini game can be really good lmao
I started playing around this time last year and. I can say as a lowly 6 digit Ive been having so much fun. Gameplay in my skill group feels so varied and interesting. I still have attainable goals. And I can play with the people around me without sweating and freaking out if Im not perfect. Honestly I think the ceiling has gotten so high that people are forgetting what's actually fun about the game and what made it fun when it was released.
Haha osu
top notch quality vid as always
I love listening to older player saying «game is dead, not fun, etc… » while I started a month ago and don’t feel anything like this
That's good, keep enjoying the game, i envy you lmao
Damn my experience is pretty similar, I had 2 years of progress and then 3 years of stagnation (maybe 50pp gain in 2 years), I also find myself going back to tv size jump maps now and it somewhat feels refreshing.
I think the global interest peaked with Vaxei/Whitecat era then went down because of how similar and numerous top players and pp plays ended up being. Now I don't even flinch when I see a 1k pp play made by a random dude on a random speed map.
I feel like Mrekk or Akolibed aren't as mythic as Shige or Vaxei, they just appear as "extremely good players" and not "players that made the game what it is"
It's just my personal opinion of course
I feel EXACTLY the same way. I think it's the same effect with the "MrBeast type videos", with literally every video being super unbelievably insane that we end up feeling desensitized to it all.
All these insane speed players are no doubt, INSANE, and highly skilled at the game. But now we've become desensitized to these insane scores and insanely high pp plays because we've seen it so much. With Shige and Vaxei, they were SO FAR ahead of their time that they appeared mythical.
Great video man! But another factor that I think makes the game boring is the lack of playing other game genres, I played mania for 2 years and when I hit the infamous skill wall i got pretty sad, so my solution was taking a break of vrsgs and playing other stuff, like metroidvanias or a puzzle game.
In my case that's how I ended playing lol (wr)....
It blows my mind how well you managed to blend the cooking process and osu with perfect analogies
I cant discuss the production quality and facts that have been said in this video, but wanting to get better at the game again listening to this, really just made me sad tbh
Can you elaborate more on your statement
when i first started playing, seeing that i had an exact rank with distinct top plays that i can do without any multiplayer was really interesting since every other game i know has ELO that requires you to play with other people. just doing a casual grind, listening to music i liked, seeing top players do things that blew my mind, and watching all the existing osu content made for a great experience.
now, im at a huge skill wall that would require me to be really dedicated to get past, i am familiarized with the game mechanics so watching top players isnt as interesting to me anymore, osu content creation is dead, and i dont enjoy most of the music that gets ranked anymore like i used to.
its nothing special really. its just a thing that happens as time goes on.
I feel that. Nothing really feels the same anymore. Society has changed as a whole and at first glance everything seems bad. If you look hard enough, though, you will find some of the most beautiful things you will ever see. I never got into osu!standard due to its absolutely ludicrous difficulty, but I do play many other rhythm games (primarily 4key & beatsaber). I’m at that first stage you mentioned where I’m seeing rapid growth and getting huge dopamine hits from it. However, I wonder if it will die out just as many other things much more important have or if it will stay with me like my over 7k hours in platform-fighters (I’m ~16+1/2 btw lol). Everything may seem grim right now, but maybe if you look in the most obscure crevices, you can find something truly marvelous.
depression
My favorite micro celebrity o7
The boomer hands are real man, and I’m already at seven years played and had several hiatuses with osu. Life does get in the way, since gaming in general isn’t a main focus anymore. feelsoldgeman.
Yeah haven't heard from you in a long time, so i assume osu is no longer a priority anymore 😔
@@SaowAngel I’ve actually got back into playing again, and I’m slowly gaining my skills back 😅 I’ve been playing more gacha games like NIKKE and Arknights 😂
you cooked, it's exactly what i'm thinking (especially the state of mapping & ranked)
Best way to improve is to stop playing a lot, which is really hard for me since i love this game too much. I found that taking breaks and coming back to the game helps my consistency (whether it be mental or skill). Right now, im stuck at 26k and I hope to eventually get a 400pp play. Im sure you'll have your popoff moment one of these days! I was stuck at around 60k for a time before I got to the rank I am! Love the video ❤❤❤
Thanks for the encouragement 🙏
yo im 23k rn, but i was 30k less than a month ago. You're actually right by saying that taking a break helps. I tried to switch to tablet 2 weeks ago, played like absolute shit for like a week, felt like shit, got depressed cuz i played mouse once inbetween sessions and was much worse than i was before i picked up tablet. 2 days later, I played tablet a bit more, thought to myself: "bro im not getting used to tablet fuck this shit lmao", went offline with a nickname "fuck tablet" and lowered my dpi from 1000 to 900. Now im 23k and pushing, got 9 300s and 5 350+pp plays yesterday in one session. It really be ya mental that hinders you.
As a new player coming into the game (I've introduced some friends as well), osu! simply appears to have a skill slope that is hard to appreciate nowadays. Spending 3 hours grinding only to see no obvious improvement on the surface when instead you can just go doom scroll shorts just makes it a hard sell. It certainly is still fun and I'm enjoying it, but already a lot of my friends have given up.
I do expect when osu! gets released as a mobile game it is going to explode a bit in popularity, but that's going to be up to how the devs decided touchscreen scoring. Funny that I make a video (shameless promo) on phone osu! and then they drop a touchscreen bomb.
my favourite osu youtuber
stop leaving my server
I stopped playing because my laptop broke
2 minutes in, i gotta sya bro u make great osu content. genuinely entertaining and well formatted
Ty
Cool perspective. I do think you're onto something with the content only revolving around top player drama or new skill caps. I liked you're content because it was nice to hear from how things are going on with people around my skill range. I tried my first tournament after watching your tournament video, and now I've done 10 since then made some great memories there! But yes, at the end of the day you have to realize there are more important things. osu! has cost me at least a job or two and many other important things skipped out on due to playing so much of it, so I'm aware that at this phase of my life, it's slowly slipping into more of a background piece, and that that is a good thing in the long run.
9:20 This is so true. I started playing osu! in high school (2015) too. However, as I grow up, in college, I learn the HARD way that time is important. Being drawn into osu! had punished me by making me lose many opportunities in college, both in academic and in life. When I cant endure the pain anymore, I stopped playing. Since then, I have been catching up with other people. There is still large gap of 2 years between me and other people, but I have already closed so much of the gap, and I am so proud of myself now.
From that point on, "osu!" that I know is no longer there. Whenever I boot it up and play it again, the feeling is not the same anymore, and probably will never be again. Those childish times that I have had with this game was definitely fun. But, now, it's time to move on.
I hope you will find a good life too!
o7
Ryuusei Aika Maps r goated. Maybe I like them cuz I like low ar stuff and tech, while also being an alt player.
i for now dont have any issues with osu because i've accepted being bad and just play for fun playing low diff maps with dthr, somewhat playing for completion, hunting for some leaderboard placements etc. I really dont care about being 302k, i just like playing the game ( i have like 1450SS's and 2300S's in a year, ) I like playing flashlight and everything, so weirdly enough only my life and obligations encroach on me playing osu.
That's depressing
@@millyyeasmin7904 i'd say finding fun in something without engaging in an endless taxing endeavor is fine in itself
@@cassetoi7798 I meant the accepting of being bad
@@millyyeasmin7904 oh yeah sorry ofc, but i know i have physical and psychological hindrances that i dont think i would be able to circumvent in order to be good, such as my decaying eyesight, easily pained wrist, sticking with mouse and a shitty keyboard, bad mindset when farming etc. so i just stick to what im having fun on ( and also im just honestly bad at the game xD )
P.S.: i also cant manage to use two fingers when tapping, so i singletap litterally everything i play.
another perspective of tourneys as a staff/weekly dose of 5 digits guy
After 5WC (which was perfect for its own good), it felt like every other tourney since is/was trying to match its perfection and killed off creativity even for draft tourneys favoring superteam building rather than fun w/ friends. And there's also a battle between tourney hosts and players as well *because* of this as breaking monotony of tourneys means players won't be as comfortable, team sheets will be scuffed, too little skillsets focused etc. e.g. Konoha Cup where we tried a 5-mappool qualifiers with long maps, but players are like nah this is bad change it back
Also, about this glaring problem that tourneys are too long, badged criteria is a minimum of RO16 w/ double elim and forcing faster tourneys might mean playing multiple mappools/different rounds in the same weekend and it can work, but it feels like a "finish a tourney in less than 1 month (IMPOSSIBLE)" kinda deal
And finally, why I stopped weekly dose of 5 digits is that I don't really cover drama since it just paints a negative side of us 5 digits, and also the usual "tourneys are too stale/dragged out" thing, on top of school piling up so yea I hope I can enjoy osu again one day, whether as a player, staff or content creation too
I found this game from a Twitch streamer who had a highlight of him playing Freedman normal Diff around 2013.
Not gonna lie, IMO it did get fixed in Osu Lazer. I never improved at all same as you, 45 days played and holy shit im dog shit, but in Osu Lazer there's this mod called Random and wow it really did make maps more fun now and the 1.15x Double Speed was really nice for me and AR Changes is nice because I can't read too fast, but yeah. IMO Osu Lazer really did bring back the fire for me. Great Videos nonetheless though!
its not really a decline, its an adjustment. almost everything had its peak in 2020 bc of covid.
usually things after covid would keep some players, but it's equal/worse than what it was before covid which was confusing
i can give the REAL answer >.> it's because while Osu is pretty good, it's not like the PEAK of rhythm games like some of it's players make it out to be. It really won last year's rhythm game poll like it's the best rhythm game out there? wtf? Many games out there like beatsaber and sound voltex are much superior. Some even double as exercise lol. Osu is just...meh. Me and other longtime players since like 2015 have moved on to Osumania or osutaiko because they're also great and very underrated. But yeah, that's my brutally honest take
it's just popular that's why it won lmao
@@SaowAngel yeah and like, osu is still good but not like the literal best. it also can be run on a potato so it's gonna be the most popular regardless, yeah
beat saber requires VR.
sound voltex requires going somewhere loud and spending a shit ton of money.
they can be more fun but osu is essentially 4 rhythm games with endless maps for free and can run on almost anything. thats going to be really hard to beat.
played the game for WAYYY too long rn, 2016 was prolly the year i enjoyed the game most (both casually and competitively). now i simply have "better" things to do other than clicking circles
As someone who decided to quit osu for good after almost 4 years of playing a few months ago this video echoes my closing sentiments about the game so well, especially the mapping segment. I thought it was just me but the ranked segment just felt dominated by uninteresting maps or 'gimmicks' that weren't fun to play after April 2023 and I never found anything that gave me the 'spark' that I loved in the first place, except maps one of my friends made. Combining that with some unfortunate injuries and exam stress led to my passion for playing the game going completely.
I found another love in tournament commentary work but I even decided to quit that due to university, life just goes on I suppose.
If I have a few regrets it's that I never got a 300 or the chance to face you and Emrik's team in IVC1 all the way back in 2021, that would've been an incredible match to play.
If only we didn't throw our first match and got sent to losers in the first round then we could've played 😭 unfortunately everyone from ase quit so we can't even do a show match 😶
I think we kinda had the same path with the game. Although i wouldn't say i quit, but i've kinda kept playing just for yt
Bro how you play for 4 years and never get a 300 you have to be trolling
the video was pretty interesting but i disagree with the ryuusei aika example, you are 70k ofc you wont be able to play a 7 star tech map, it's not fun because you're not the audience and it's also not a good example of the modern style maps, but I get your point and agree
Yeah i honestly should've used a better example but usseewa felt the most easiest to explain and understand the mapping choices
actually good video talking about how i currently feel about the game
bro I never even got good at osu! but I still feel you. I started playing late into my university years and couldn't even play 5* maps well but it used to be so fun and even help me deal with emotional stress and get rid of excess energy. Now I barely have enough energy to work overtime and my primary emotion is tiredness lol. When I have some free time to spare after work, I like to play more slow paced games like BG3 recently. I think osu! is the type of game that only a minority of people are still wanting or able to play regularly in their adult lives.
I feel so nostalgic for the times when I just laid on the bed with my mouse and membrane keeb and rapidly improve. Later I'd sit at my desk on a gaming chair with my tablet and mech and grind for my first 40 hundred pp scores. Now I have played the game for around 5 years, my top play is 172pp and osu really doesn't feel the same.
Ive been playing mania for 8 years and i cant describe how much i agree with every word in the video. Every single point applies to mania too. Fell off
amazing storytelling! it was an interesting topic and had made me rethink of my life decisions to play osu lol
visual part of the video is very nice
thanks, i worked hard on it
I've played on and off since 2014 and you pretty quickly lose both the time and reflexes to even maintain your skill level. This can get in the way of simply enjoying the game casually, and I mostly play offline now. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the former top players who grew up and disappeared still played very casually offline now and then.
By the way this video was done really well, refreshing to see actual good content for this game rather than pisslow shorts
Unfortunately/fortnuately I havent reached that point just yet even though im not really doing things like improving either.
Im glad to have a variety of games I can cycle through, and also playing complete other games I usually dont. So atleast if I come back to osu, it doesnt feel too bad every once in a while. But then again im not the person who hang around in osu for nearly 7 years, so I cant really tell.
Have a great day!
Great video and interesting perspective, thanks for sharing it
Here's my two cents
I started 3 years ago, i was hoping to get gud like everyone else, i was also hoping to get competitive because i thought i was getting good fast enough... 6 months later i started playing tournaments. I was kept being on the lowest end for years but i thought it's just my skill level being low at the time and it was gonna get better.... It only barely got better, but still not good enough for most tournaments even in my range, best I've done is getting to semis (well i did get to finals and even won a few odd ones that were early, but I don't count these). I think it might have destroyed my will to improve as even after tourneys i would struggle to improve at anything, well i always liked to see small improvements from last time but that is not enough if you want to be as good as an average player, let alone deranker level. A few people accused me of being a deranker (likely as a joke though since it was very few people) and i was like "why I can't get to deranker level, i played longer than them" and recently (like some months ago) I didn't play tournaments as much anymore, maybe i will play one every now and then but definitely not often. I also stopped chasing the rank improvement as well since i had to play very specific maps to farm, and I can't always pick the normal maps to farm (or maybe I'm just subconsciously avoiding some of them). So now i play other games, but every now and then play osu to enjoy maps (or to do mappooling)
We have the similar character arc with tourneys lmao
Wow I really played osu! for entirely different reasons. I was hyper casual and just enjoyed being unranked maps that did stuff interesting.
My enjoyment came from just scrolling through recently updated and trying out a bunch of stuff. Sorting out what sucks and what was great. Then I would share that with others in multiplayer lobbies.
I'm retired as a player for now, but it happened due to never becoming a notable mapper. I had a new game to spend tons of time in and I didn't feel obligated to continue creating for the community when I was so under the radar.
It's hard to come back since I play worse than before and that's just kinda annoying. Derusting is rough lol.
Ryussei aika maps are fun when you can play them
I almost quit osu 2 year ago if i didnt discover lazer. Lazer community is super small and almost everyone know each other. 2 year ago i find it boring to open the game and stop improving but now when i open the game i look forward to play with every one and have fun and now i begin to improve again eventhough my improvement is a bit slow now because im busy with university
Also peppy joining our multi once in a while and spectate us and roasting us is pretty funny. I still remember that one time i bug report lazer multi spectate delay and went to sleep while all my friend in multi with peppy getting roasted by him for a slow wifi eventhough a lot of us have a pretty fast wifi and it actually the game problem
Haha holy shit that's soo cool
ngl although im just coming back to osu since when i downloaded it in july of this year i didnt take it seriously and didnt have a account, but now ever since i played my first mania map everything has changed for me and now im an addict
joined 2020, this year's starting as well as recently has been hella exciting
as someone who only tried out osu recently (have been aware of it for years but didnt really spend enough time on the PC to get into it) the mapping and searchability on the website have been huge issues for me, with no nostalgia to cloud my judgement. even when using the appropriate filters, it's really hard to find maps that are at my level. i mainly play osu mania and osu taiko bc i dont wanna use my drawing tablet for this lol. and i get that those have less maps made for them to begin with (or at least... it seems like it) but even when i find something that i can actually finish, its like a 5% chance that the map will actually be enjoyable. like you said, lots of them don't really seem to fit the song all that well, and some of the ones that do are just really repetitive or dont really add any interesting beat to the song. and dont get me started how even if you like a popular artist, good luck finding a map for a song of theirs that ISNT the millionth map for the anime OP/ED they made. like really guys, how many KICK BACK maps do i have to scroll through to find something different? ive considered making my own maps because of all this, but yeesh. imagine trying to get into a game to have a good time and then up front being met with the reality that if you wanna have fun you might have to make your own stuff from scratch. im not new to rhythm games either, so its not like im looking for something a 5 year old could complete, i just want something for intermediate skill, or at least not aimed at people who can hit 10 beats a second. and on the note of the game looking ugly, why is osu mania set off to a little part of the side of the screen like that? the visibility is horrible
i don't like complaining too much about it, because at the end of the day someone put in the effort to make and share all this for free, but its had me turn back towards other rhythm games.
if anyone has recommendations for some fun/creative maps that are medium-hard (not extreme) pls let me know!
I was top 800 on standard back in like 2021~2022
But the game got really stressful to play the moment i hit my physical skill cap for this game
While trying to overcome that skill cap while having real life stuff is really a demotivator for this game while also watching top players with close playtime as me getting crazy scores.
It's just a game, we don't have to take it seriously. Play for fun is the best way to fun with this game
I think the large spike in players in around 2020 - 2021 is the fact that was around the time COVID happened, and everyone was home doing not a whole lot. but now things are back to normal (relatively) and you can see the player base is around the same as pre-pandemic numbers.
how i got into osu was a weird way i had a actual vision when i got my new pc and the first thing i downloaded was osu because of my vision
Terrible vision
How would you go find osu out of nowhere just because you had a vision? Actually, what was ur vision like?
@@mollysandera991 it was of me downloading osu and playing osu standard.
Can't wait for maimai videos 🍭
I started in 2015, and since the end of 2022 i've hit a huge slowdown in progress for gaining pp and such. It's most likely a reason why i'm considering quitting, on top of not very many good nomod stream maps are getting ranked now so most of the scores i've gotten that i wanted to get are unranked.
On a scale from 1-10 how silly did you feel falling over in that field? Loved the vid btw, I wouldn’t say it’s dying, just returning to normal after Covid
4 cause no one was there but i got some rashes lmao
once again awesome vidya
you can cook! keep cooking!
3:00 my favourite top players are ones with 100 times less hours/playcount than average player with same rank.
believe the pandemic played a huge part in the BIG spike in popularity, tbh The slow decline to how it was before isn't too too surprising
the map he played during the zoom class 😭😭
Don't say it
I discovered osu! when I was six never played it nor thought about it again. Rediscovered the game in middle school from a classic video with the nightcore remix of Rockefeller Street, forgot to look it up when I got home and never thought about it, again. Re-re-discovered it I’m my junior year of high school and I’ve been hyper fixated ever since. Idk why I’m commenting this but whatever
5:17 is so true the max diff on hand crushed by a mallet is the best exsample there schuld be a slider vc limit for ranking cus the max diff is givinge in catch for a 2 miss EZ HT FL pass 1.1k the slider absue can't let not even the top catch player to fc the map :/
i agree with most points beside on the beatmaps side, there are still a lot of maps that are simple that keep coming out, and as a long time player i haven't found myself not being able to find more good simple mapping. i believe everyone should play what maps that give them joyment. i think the mappinp there is now i more complex, not easy to learn, and thats why its frustrating for most players but with that there are a lot of other things to play.
its kind of hard to say, but this a solo game. if you're not enjoying the gameplay and songs without everything thats surrounding it, you wont be able to enjoy the game for a long time. therefor, enjoy the songs and maps there are, and from my eyese there is everything.
and if you cant, dont play - there is nothing that there is to complain about. thats the game! and if u dont like it, dont play it
now there are lot of things that the community and development team can do to make this game better and more enjoyable, but the gameplay is something you MUST love in order to do anything else in the game.
fire video as usual
great editing too
Very good video!
You know... thinks wont be always the same. Eventually your enthusiasm for everything you once loved will subside.
I Personally love osu because I enjoy the music and improving at it. (even if this aint always the case)
But man, do yourself a favor and stop playing the game. It just makes it worse if you can't enjoy it, and thats ok..
Distance yourself from all the e-drama, bad content and statistics.
Also stop becoming depressed over just anothrt game for no reason and take a break.
I feel like I should probably quit too but I just waited 8 months for a wooting uwu and for some reason also bought a drunk deer a75. do you think there’s some Sunk cost fallacy in playing osu for so long?
Give me the wooting pls
But sunk cost fallacy is definitely a thing plus a special one for me is that if i stop making osu videos then most of my audience is gone
5:47 aku setuju soal ini
It all can be explained by skill issue tbh
This is everyone since 2013
nice editing
the mapping section of this video is so ironic how it mentions early 2020 maps when maps back then were critized for being the biggest garbage ever because of how simple and boring they were, and how basically all of them were the same thing with the same rhythm
being around the game since 2014, this is probably the 30th time I'm hearing every single thing in the video
Me who's stop having fun for months for months
Honestly. I play osu to train aim for other games lmfao.
I won't stop playing it until I stop playing other aim based games like fps's and crap
idk if osu is a good aim trainer
@@SaowAngel for me it's a nice warm up for mhur (my hero ultra rumble), very aim intensive game but the movement ppl do is linear so osu is great lol
another banger vid
1:29 why does oil in a sriracha bottle look so wrong
LMAO, it's an asian thing
@@SaowAngel we asians gotta make do
I dont agree with your opinion on ryussei aika maps or newly ranked maps, theyre not fun for you because youre simply not good enough to play them. You cant gauge the patterns nor comprehend the patterns and those simpler aim maps are fun and nice to play for you because you can actually play the simple maps. Nothing can be fun if you have no idea whats going on in the screen. Playing a 8 star high velocity slider map as a high 5 digit, you might aswell turn your monitor off and just mash your keyboard and flick your tablet pen. The game is fun because we can play with the song and challenge ourselves
well said
honestly the new low SR maps aren't fun either though. he just used a well known example, it'd take a whole other video to comprehensively cover how pretentious and not fun the ranked section is.
@@nm3004 I'm not sure what your definition of low Sr is but if it's below 5, at a intermediate level all maps below 5 just not fun
I probably should've used a better example, but yes it's not just high star it also affect lower star rating with these questionable mapping choices
@@millyyeasmin7904do you know how ridiculous it sounds to literally anybody else who doesn't play osu that 5* is where maps staring becoming fun 💀
It's weird cuz I still like osu
Hmm same
Then again I still play jubeat and maimai
Ig I just have a thing for rhythm games
because the freshness from the masochistic game where you just click circles while being compared to sweata was never fun
LET HIM COOK
The reason why osu started to dwindle in popularity was because it became so much about pp and isolated play rather than building a community experience. It also didn't help that mapping had long since become a stale joke, resulting in lackluster maps from the same few individuals and their friends.
In the beginning, it was different. Osu was approachable, it was community oriented. Sure, things weren't prim and polished, but that wasn't the point back then. It was a fledgling community that liked a game, and it was passionate about it. The dawn of osu, from late 2007 through to 2010 or so, was about a small, tight-knit community that wanted to make new content and both map and play songs they loved.
When osu grew into a more stable community, it started expanding and it entered its golden age, from about 2011 to 2013. Tournaments, some of the greatest maps, mappers, and players, and constant improvements poured in. Osu had finally struck it big, and nothing was slowing it down. Even in 2014, this momentum still was there to some extent.
2015 was the point where osu started declining. Mapping standards plummeted, problematic BNs arose, and low quality maps were speedranked as favours got exchanged. Monstrata and Sotarks really defined the age of decline here, as they would try to speedrank maps without regards to quality, adherence to rules and guidelines, or much modding and debate.
There have been minor resurgences in quality or popularity since then, but osu will never again approach the popularity it had in its dawn and golden ages. 2014 itself was really a silver age in and of itself, but eventually, people really stopped caring about having the same community experience that made the game popular to begin with.
That's an interesting perspective from an older player to read.
after ctb completion every other mode can also be completed! :)
I don't get how players compare themselves to Mrekk or cookizie. Speed run to hate yourself especially if you have a weak as fuck mental.
it's not just them, it's also other players as well around your rank range
Its not that u necessary compare urself, but that its so easy to do it. Top players get attention for obivious reasons, so when u take a look at them. It feels like theres no one but them.
Met players that just say "aslong as u are not in the Top 100, u are worthless and not worth talking about". Which I do not totally agree with, but yeah it does happen.
awesome video
I feel like more people just dont play anymore and actually go outside
(shocking i know)
What's that?
@@SaowAngel sorry I was speaking metaphorically
the graph doesnt really show a decline it's about the same as it was pre covid, every game grew with covid and then died down a little after it slowed down.
Some online things still have more users post covid than pre covid, but osu isn't like this
its better to play osu to enjoy and find new music, its way better to stop and play other games when bored with it and come back when you feel like it
Its pretty obvious why the game had a decline past 2020
flux isn't a weird map :((((
Look at the leader boards
real
People just move on and find different games to play.
It's crazy that a game about clicking circles has been going so hard for so long, un less Osu finds a fresh influx in players I don't really see it live up again.
i found out about the game cus of mrekk playing hentai vs furries 💀💀
Sotarks is god, sotarks is life.
im kinda new to this game still and started to enjoy it a lot so this kind of content is pretty depressing to watch.
bro thinks he's doug doug
Who
lmfao@@SaowAngel
For me - mrekk was just the first guy to be too much.
Anyone before shige is kinda chill, shige is slow, and the rest are just a 10-15% improvement from previous top players in terms of raw skill...
Everyone before mrekk was just showing the game mastery and a bit of talent, but this dude has become physical
There's not much game mastery left for him, circles have become a mere framework of speed, so now he plays maps that are out of reach of most 3 digits even with relax - he just stripped achievements away from the game
Even badeu quit, saying "the game has become too competitive", and that's true
For a game to continue - you can't win 100% of the time, and mrekk did just that, killing the fun for the rest
In his defense people should just get good
It's still fun to me.