Hitting a Skill Wall

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  • @Kariyu101
    @Kariyu101 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    1:14 idk how but you activated my anxiety with your hand movements LMAO
    cool production as usual!! :>

    • @mamiveeuwu
      @mamiveeuwu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      omg kariyu

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +35

      yeah it's like you're anxiously wanting to say something in the conversation but you can't find the right thing to say.
      Also thank you for the comment, it's cool seeing you again 😃

    • @reizu886
      @reizu886 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aren't ypu vlaornat??

  • @Tekuburu09
    @Tekuburu09 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Lesson: Play for skill, not for rank
    edit: play for fun

    • @budzee313
      @budzee313 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      homie I can't play for either

    • @Tekuburu09
      @Tekuburu09 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@budzee313 if you can't, then play for fun, if you are bored at house you can play osu. If you don't want to play then don't

    • @Loxu69
      @Loxu69 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bad lesson, play for fun. I love grinding and playing for skill in osu but if ur at the stage where you've hit a skill wall you'll get frustrated playing more difficult stuff with the expectation that your skill is increasing. If you wanna play difficult stuff play it because its fun because expecting to play it and immediately improve can lead to the same feeling you have while rank grinding

    • @Tekuburu09
      @Tekuburu09 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Loxu69 I said that ago, look at the top

    • @asteroise7469
      @asteroise7469 ปีที่แล้ว

      Solution - quit osu

  • @benwpianocovers628
    @benwpianocovers628 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    maintaining your rank means you are actually getting better at the same rate as the people around you. it does not mean you are not improving. just not faster, nor slower than others. also rank =! skill. there will always be better players below your rank and worse players above your rank. as long as you enjoy game everything should be fine. :+1:

    • @Fed0usi4
      @Fed0usi4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with everything else you said except this little thing

    • @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
      @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True that, from personal experience as long as you keep playing you're eventually gonna break that wall and EXPLODE up the ranks, when it happened to me i got like 30k ranks in about a week and my aim got much, MUCH better

    • @rycles1348
      @rycles1348 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal same i went from a 7 digit to 500k 6 digit

    • @Yusuketh443
      @Yusuketh443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      rank ≠ skill

    • @nahnvm8493
      @nahnvm8493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s not true since not everyone is gonna be improving at the same rate as you meaning that it’s actually just new people coming in your rank range and others dropping below

  • @lukeyleksty4905
    @lukeyleksty4905 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    speaking of walls, that brick wall at 0:38 was excellent.
    as a mason, i can count with my fingers the amounts of times ive seen walls as nice as this

    • @deleted-test
      @deleted-test ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what makes it such a nice wall? what are the features you look after?

    • @lukeyleksty4905
      @lukeyleksty4905 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@deleted-testmostly the very even placement of bricks, the very even application of mortar, and cleanliness of the bricks
      on most building sites, any walls you may build will later be plastered so most masons tend to prioritize speed over precision, which ends up with walls that dont necessarily look the best before plastering (dont misunderstand, it still serves its purpose of being a wall all the same)
      walls like this tend to take much longer to build as they require much more care put into them as to keep it looking good

    • @Chris-lw5po
      @Chris-lw5po ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deleted-test the bricks aren't all dinged up ++ the cement between the bricks isn't messy. imo

  • @4lex_16
    @4lex_16 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Amazing video + you had the courage to speak up about an internal struggle which is not mentioned a lot.
    Playing for fun and finding your own style, through you own mixed skins, peripherals or even grip is something you learn with time and playing with that mindset is a lot healthier than looking at artificial numbers that barely represent the way you play the game.

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah switching and adapting to new things is a natural thing. I even recently switched to tablet and switched back to my old skin

    • @valkyrj_a
      @valkyrj_a ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaowAngel fun fact since you aren't losing rank it means you are not at a skill war your just improving at the same rate as others (which is commonly confused with skill wall) there's also really slowly losing rank which means your simply improving but really slowly it's hard to tell improving really slowly to a skill wall but after a while if your able to advance stars it should mean your progress is simply just slowed down then theres a skill wall which means no improvement whatsoever while yes you might get mini bursts there will otherwise be no improvement (however this is all I know from doing reserach and leraning new things about how stuff like skill walls work otherwise i've basically only started ive researched more about osu than i have ever played osu though my playtime is definetly catching up to my research time, with all that considered take my word with a grain of salt)

  • @flipflopsforlife3105
    @flipflopsforlife3105 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t worry, am stuck with you

  • @WalmartVaxei
    @WalmartVaxei ปีที่แล้ว +3

    remember what rrtyui always taught us. plz enjoy game

  • @smaragtosu
    @smaragtosu ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Simple and easy fix: play more outside your confort zone. Osu is basically a simpler version of bodybuilding, you warm up with light weights (low star maps) then you use "normal" weights (maps that are fcable or 1 missable) then at last heavy weights with decent form (basically try and go for passes and if you dont want to do that just play maps that you can sub 20 miss (ofc depends on map))
    Also please stop caring about acc so hard 99% isnt everything in this game you dont have to get it on every map 95 is okay as well.
    This is what ive been doing for 2 years now and i sky rocketed in skill also abuse osu trainer or mcosu

  • @Drag0n4key
    @Drag0n4key ปีที่แล้ว +8

    as someone who was stuck in a skill wall on a osu mania for 4-6 months I can understand the pain it is. But keeping the determination to keep playing and still having fun made breaking the wall so much more satisfying and made me love the game i play even more.
    One day you will break the wall and it will be the most satisfying thing ever

  • @n_.i._n
    @n_.i._n ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The editing in this video is better than 90% of all youtubers and amazing vid!!

  • @honmi
    @honmi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at 0:55 I joked in my head that you would mention my videos, but then you actually did LOL anyway awesome video as always, keep it up! I love videos like these
    edit: the clip at 7:54 sent me

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do joke about your videos but i still watch and enjoy them. Keep it up as well!

  • @LGXZ
    @LGXZ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:01 this moment is so fricking relatable it hurts

  • @notayumi
    @notayumi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this video is literally what ive been experiencing for the past year or so
    except the large lack of improvement destroyed my expectations and mentality so bad that i cant rly even have fun with the game anymore

    • @Naarii14
      @Naarii14 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here haven't touched it in years for many of the reasons in this video...

  • @greywb664
    @greywb664 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your editing is amazing dude! The visuals make the video so much more engaging. +1 from me 👍

  • @sirfabulous602
    @sirfabulous602 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As someone who was stuck on a wall for more than 5 months, I think I've actually improved significantly. The second I started playing for both fun and skill, sessions felt less mentally taxing & heavy. Right now my goal is to play difficult maps that have my favorite songs, like tech, long streams, consistency, etc. My rank has stayed around the same at 35k, but I've been able to expand my skill all around the board, which I think will help in the long run.

  • @solmonno6935
    @solmonno6935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:37 I like to play offline when i just want to play and have to worry about rank, this also helps me compare myself to me instead of others. I see peoples scores and think "nice thats dope" and move on. also good vid

  • @zetariveiro
    @zetariveiro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when i clicked on the video i did not expect this level of quality deam wp

  • @Tuckie
    @Tuckie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    osu! is an interesting outlet to put yourself into.
    I've struggled a whole hell of a lot with this game. I used to want to hit arbitrary numbered ranks such as 3 digit and beyond. Once I got a past the 5 digit mark, reaching 4 digit/top 10,000, I realized that I didn't even feel happy.
    It was one of the first endeavors I put almost everything I could into. That feeling of not being happy was more a subtle relief. That was when I felt lost with the game and in turn in life.
    I since play the game for fun whenever I get an urge, not letting myself get all too invested with where I am or should be. A process that still has lingering remnants, memories of the frustration, and inner struggle to improve.
    I don't necessarily regret it though. I learned a lot of lessons from this game and intend to play it even more for fun from time to time. Here are some things I feel I have learnt:
    If you want to improve in the game, the best way, in my opinion, is to slowly work your way up. With occasionally trying to limit test to push yourself to give a boost long term if you treat it right. Trying to do hard things, such as AR11 and other difficult tasks, will give you a new found sense of speed and cursor placement.
    Working on various skill sets in tandem is better than individual for the most part. Solely focusing on streams will often burn you out; working on jumps will burn you out; and so forth.
    I think the idea of improvement is an overvalued one. Having fun is truly the no.1 greatest thing in any endeavor. If you find enjoyment in the process of learning, and gaining improvement that way, osu! is a game that doesn't quite reward that. It's a game of mechanical improvement at its forefront, unless you have a fundamental struggle such as really, really bad technique.
    It is rarely you will find improvement through actively looking out to learn more. It is still a worthwhile effort if you enjoy all that though. Just know that the best way to get better is to play when you feel like it and enjoy the time you spend.

  • @ventdra
    @ventdra ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The way you pulled the ethernet by the cord at 0:49 killed me.

  • @darkfusion2424
    @darkfusion2424 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a video that couldnt have hit
    closer to home if i tried. i always feel suffocated by my friends who started the game about the same time as i, but yet i have just fallen behind. they can stream 240 bpm or higher whilst im stuck at 190 bpm at best

  • @toasta5537
    @toasta5537 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hit as skill wall?
    STAY in your comfort zone,
    try to get better scores in the songs IN your comfort zone,
    treat the game as a game that you should have fun with,
    monthly breaks ( sometimes, the only way to improve... is to stop )
    that is all I know when it comes to my own experience of breaking skill walls in rhythm games overall. Thanks for reading.

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah just stick to 3 stars

  • @SakuraScythe
    @SakuraScythe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know that this isnt really about the main topic, but after rewatching the video (cause i was bored) I realised that at the 3:30 somethhing mark you used a bleach ost and THAT one theme just always makes me be on the verge of crying

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      I donthink i even noticed that lmao

  • @Shaunsosuspam
    @Shaunsosuspam ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i've been 4k-5k for 2 years now my skill wall is the size of mt everest it is joever

    • @nicosmidt7347
      @nicosmidt7347 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play harder maps more often aka going outside your confort zone.

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      most consistent osu player fr

  • @Mr.Shim3ji
    @Mr.Shim3ji ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You may not be improving at osu as you expected, but your videos are improving so much, you can't be the best at everything

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you so much

  • @Dillarune
    @Dillarune ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive never rly cared about rank but being skill walled in osu is probably still the most depressing feeling in gaming because i just want to play the good songs but the good songs are usually 6,7,8,9 stars and its just so frustrating...
    the game is still fun but i had to just accept the reality and prioritise my mental health lol now i play like once a month, pretty much no progress, treating it as a casual game that i play solely for fun without any intent of getting better.
    also helps that i found something else to replace osu as my tryhard serious game that fits me better which is celeste! (and many other games tbh theres so many things u can do in a lot of games)

  • @raven9376
    @raven9376 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow. One of the best videos I have ever watched on this platform. I loved the editing style especially

  • @Loxu69
    @Loxu69 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I get you man, I felt this when I was 100k, I felt it when I hit 50k and I'm feeling it now at 20k. I think its important for people to realize just because you put 1k hours in the game doesn't mean you're gonna be a 4 digit or whatever is expected of you at that time range. To put it in perspective, even your rank 80k is still top 80k in a game that millions of people have played, its a rank that a majority of the community have never and will never achieve. If ranking up was as easy as just play the game for 1k hours someone in 80k skill range would be in the 100-200k+ range cause anyone can just play the game a lot.

  • @nykx2904
    @nykx2904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This apply to all online games not just osu, I don't really play osu but i can definitely relate to what you said.

  • @lawrencfgsdfg
    @lawrencfgsdfg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    super high quality video holy shit. still slowly progressing on my osu journey but i feel this video a lot

  • @finesseandstyle
    @finesseandstyle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    extremely relatable video
    According to the global pp to playcount graph that I saw I'm actually very average in terms of improvement however I still feel like I'm considerably below the norm because my aim consistency is ass.
    stop overthinking and just play the damn game, my 2 best tips to anyone that wants to improve.

  • @mickellebutler1713
    @mickellebutler1713 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't expect this to be so high quality great video man

  • @ciotomate5495
    @ciotomate5495 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably one of the most valuable osu content videos, good job!

  • @pika4126
    @pika4126 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    if you're reading this and you feel like you've hit a skill wall; don't be afraid of changing things up like your tapping or your grip and make sure it's comfortable for you. it'll suck not playing at your peak skill but comfort will matter in the future trust me start changing things up now when you can

    • @f4lleng0dz
      @f4lleng0dz ปีที่แล้ว

      but yeah, i am actually hitting a wall with top play being a 7 star fc choke, whenever i try to play jump map, i get frustrated of keep missing notes i supposed to hit, well looking back i actually admire those who had the jump basic done well,
      edit: i probably just a "stream one trick" TwT

  • @donkbonk7961
    @donkbonk7961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I struggled with ranking for a time and it frustrated me a lot because I wanted to reach 80k by a certain point and seeing how I was moving up the rankings it looked doable in a short amount of time. I ended up only focusing on rank and that led to a big loss of passion for the game and simply missing a note on a minute long map would put my whole setup at risk. It wasn’t until I took a break, dabbled in mania, went out with friends, took time to reflect on why I love the game to begin with, that my passion returned for the game. Osu isn’t meant to be played for rank. The point of the game from its beginnings was always to have fun. Rank is just an added bonus so people have more to look at. Sometimes it’s best to just forget about the scores and just play for the sake of playing a game you really enjoy and not stress over things that in time will come to you. Anyways W video really cool editing plus made a cameo in vc pog

  • @ryangbw
    @ryangbw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was me back in 2017~2021, so much bad mental but now I have changed this and I can say I am proud of you fam

  • @airballer2004
    @airballer2004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    additionally something that I relate to is not sharing scores, and that's cuz of the people i was around. They were improving way faster than I was, and sorta took every opportunity they had to make sure i knew that. Every score was met with a "oh I FCed that with x and y mods" or "this map is actually so easy" when it took me months to FC it
    luckily those ppl i dont rly talk to anymore

  • @scopzi
    @scopzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I felt this in my core. I was hardstuck the same skill level and rank for some months. I switched to full area and decreased day by day until I found my "perfect area" and finally broke through the wall. For me personally, it was mainly mentality that held me back. You'll break through eventually! Instead of "play more" try playing with a purpose or a list of small goals.

  • @pk_.5885
    @pk_.5885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always love that editing. Almost feels like a catchy beat I can't get out of my head

  • @500ml_yakultbottle
    @500ml_yakultbottle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video. Mirrored my experience with starting to play DDR instead of osu. This video honestly really speaks to me in a way I can't describe

  • @YRH2
    @YRH2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Don't pressure yourself, just play it the way you want it to be."
    - OSU Player suffering the same fate.

  • @rorroohignaciio2151
    @rorroohignaciio2151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i really can feel you, i came back to the game after a few breaks (long years of breaks actually) and i can't even play the whole song of my top play (it was 245pp dt play) then i just pushed harder my speed to get more consistency (pushing 200 -220-240-260bpm gradually) getting less fingerlocks and then a few months it gave me such nice improvements, even i beat my top plays, but getting constantly that mood it ruins your head and sooner or later it'll be bad, trying to get something that requires time and patience, but i'm already hitting a new wall called 300pp barrier, i chocked a lot of 300pp plays and i'm still waiting that copium to push me forward to try improve my skills. but i ended it with the same thought as you too, if it's doesn't come the time to get my first 300pp then i'll getting fun in that time and it's the best option that you could get.

  • @peterkilian9100
    @peterkilian9100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Believe it or not I’m one of the most down bad osu players ever. I’ve been playing for nearly 3 years and I still can’t fc 3.5 star maps consistently. I’ve been thinking of giving up lately, but I really can’t because I just love this game and it’s community with all my heart. Thank you for the video, I know it’s helped some people out there who really needed it!

  • @Spooky_Ougi
    @Spooky_Ougi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vidéo ! Really resonated with it knowing that for the past 3-4 years i tripled my play count without improving (my top play was like 3.5+ years old). But don't lose hope ! I restarted to improve 3 month ago and went from 100k to 55k. Keep playing and one day you'll get better.

  • @rebarbarized
    @rebarbarized ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This managed to stumble into my recommended as I sometimes view osu! content but barely play at all.
    What's interesting is that phase of yours in which you tried out several playstyles happened to me as well, except much, much later into my career during which I neared 3 digit. This was back in around 2020. I was trying out areas frantically in the hopes of getting closer to that Remote Control DT and Ascension to Heaven score, but this had the opposite effect. Got tilted too much and regressed in skill as soon as life priorities took over. Still a bit salty about it today, but not as much now. I wouldn't want to be in a top player's shoes anyway, being older now.
    Basically, your story as a high 5 digit shares some similarities with mine. Just goes to show that we weren't all that different as players, despite the several magnitudes of difference in skill.

  • @Nico1_
    @Nico1_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I relate to this a lot because I am also kind of a slow learner compared to this community and it always feels like people are getting better than me a lot faster.
    Anyway this video is SO WELL MADE man wtf

  • @setsoku4653
    @setsoku4653 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very entertaining and informative video, I remember being on both sides of the mindset spectrum you mentioned actually since at like 2022-2021 I was hardstuck on like 50k then I got a random popoff which made me ahead of everyone of my friends at 9k so I had like the superior mindset which as you mentioned is toxic, but yeah the main takeaway from all this is that maybe some people is just meant to be where they are in skill which may sound bad but at the end of the day it is a video game and it is meant to be played for fun and it dosent really matter if you are good at it or not (and I learned that the hard way D:) , and besides popoffs and skillboosts are random and can happen at any time so you never know :DD. but yeah again great video I enjoyed watching it and you portrayed the main points really nicely and I also respect the story aspect you put in aswell!!!

  • @narrowclips7560
    @narrowclips7560 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video, I have been around 20k for the last 3 years so I can relate. Heard someone say “Improvement doesn’t happen overnight” so I practiced for a while and now im finally back setting some decent scores and having fun seeing my improvement and knowing I can become better if I just keep playing the game for fun

  • @Chuni_MD2
    @Chuni_MD2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is so relatable, because I’m experiencin similar thing
    To be exact, I have that similar feeling when playing Arcaea, I spent everyday playing it, practicing it and yet I can’t see results, others who play 2 times even 3 times less than me are all getting towards 13.00 while I stuck at 12.75, it definitely makes me feel worthless sometimes and even tho I know I’m already pretty good and I’m not actually worthless, I can’t really control myself to not think about it, it’s really common for me to lose all confidence and motivation for a whole night. I don’t get these feelings when playing other rhythm games because I can clearly see progress.

  • @ungsuhan
    @ungsuhan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had multiple skill wall breakthroughs and I'll just say it's all in the mindset. How you approach your mistakes. You need to Identify them, experiment, adapt, and overcome them. There are useful programs already like replay analyzers to help you out. Work smarter not just harder

  • @Josiahhhhhhh
    @Josiahhhhhhh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really good video with a great message. I don’t even play Osu but the applications goes way beyond that. Thank you :)

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah that was the idea of the video, it can be applied to any skill

  • @Hzul_
    @Hzul_ ปีที่แล้ว +20

    can really tell that the production value has improved alot, props to u man !

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah i tired to improved upon the last video as well with introduce with different visuals

    • @NexusPlayzYT
      @NexusPlayzYT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi huzl

  • @morososaas3397
    @morososaas3397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have played competitive multiplayer games over a decade and I can relate alot to this, I personally derive most of the fun at improvement of myself and when I see it platou for a long time it always results me in switching into another game. Its not really necesserely even about being "better" than others, but when it feels like you are just going no where how can you go on?

  • @andr_3e
    @andr_3e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome quality, love the vid!

  • @ranger.1
    @ranger.1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm playing 5-5.5 star rating for a year, I feel so bad sometimes. But, osu multis keeps me coming back

  • @ITheQwertyI
    @ITheQwertyI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is very well-made. Also the moral is based af. I think that everyone should have "plz enjoy game" mindset. The more you try, the worse it gets.

  • @Haifisch3003
    @Haifisch3003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing videon man. I also feel like I've hit a wall recently and basically everything you said reflected my thoughts. It's a game at the end of the day and as long as you enjoy it, it doesn't matter what your rank or playtime says.

  • @syne7929
    @syne7929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive hit so many 'skill walls' that im a professional demolitionist. i got stuck at rank 150k for 5 months. it took me 3 months to get my first 100pp then after that almost 1 1/2 years to get my first 200. got stuck at rank 80k for 6 months. then most recently i got stuck at 50k for almost a year and im just now increasing in rank again and getting my first 300 and my top play on through the fire and the flames 4xmiss for 350pp. all i can say is do whatever you feel like. play when you want to, take a break when you want to. dont feel forced to keep playing because after all it is just a game.

  • @ngviettuan4574
    @ngviettuan4574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video is so good, i had to rewatch it. Gaining ranks is not important as soon as i get enjoyment from the game, the music, community or stuff like that. Wish for all the best for your life and your job and thanks for making my day

  • @astraha.
    @astraha. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit this video is insane!
    Including little irl footage and other stuff hits different especially for a osu video. Great stuff!

  • @natchanielb
    @natchanielb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!!!! My past self could have really used this when I was permafocused on rank

  • @falapadieu
    @falapadieu ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As an osu! player with inferiority for my middle name, this video is oddly uplifting.
    Players are as different in skill progression as they are different as individuals, so the one thing that matters is your own improvement and that you're enjoying the game.
    I've been a 6-digit for 4 years now, with almost all of my current best plays set back in 2020 so it feels like I'm stagnating despite all efforts to improve. But seeing these subtle improvements in my playstyle over time, and suddenly pulling a new record (in the last 3 years, 40pp higher no less) the other day, maybe I wasn't really stagnating. I just suck at improving so it took that long.
    Well... I still love the game even now, despite the "stagnation" and regardless of all that craziness. So I guess the effort meant something. And that's cool.
    Nevertheless, the path to _git gud_ is a long one, on which we shall continue.

  • @ordinary3744
    @ordinary3744 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really liked this video. It voiced my struggles as a person who used to view rank as everything in osu.
    I never really struggled to improve and almost never hit any skill walls until I was around 7500 with like

  • @nyupenyu
    @nyupenyu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just like the great rrtyui once said
    "plz enjoy game"

  • @zyronltz7494
    @zyronltz7494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha, we've all been there. I was stuck for 2 years at one point before finally setting a new top play. IMO it was because I started to play less for pp and more for fun. During that time I also started to actively try and improve in some skillsets by playing them more rather than just trying to set top plays on comfortable maps. In the end, how everyone improves differs, and what matters is having a growth mindset and not giving up.
    it's also worth noting that decay is a real thing and it hits hard. You might have been stuck at 80k for years but that doesn't mean you didn't improve. At the very least, you didn't deteriorate in skill, which is sadly pretty common.
    Anyways, glad you came to terms with it. Like you said, as long as you're having fun :D

  • @TheReiindeer
    @TheReiindeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this video. My eyes feel satisfied with the editing!

  • @mizuto1
    @mizuto1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro the production quality of this video is insane
    kudos to you

  • @skurwieI1
    @skurwieI1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ur vids never dissapoint! Great stuff as always

  • @Jimmy_vok_nem_rokon
    @Jimmy_vok_nem_rokon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's fully me. I registered 6 years ago, but truly i was started the osu in 2018 March. From 2018 March to the end in 2018 i was rapidly flying up in the ranking. In 2019 i stucked at 75k rank, i played on a potato pc and membrane keyboard and i was blamed my setup as my "stuckwall". After in 2020 i started working and i was had enough money to buy a newer pc, 144hz monitor and a mechanical keyboard. After these i ranked up again to 50k and slowly 45k rank, but after that my peak is just 40k in rankings. I played a lot of, atm i have 144k playcount and 1800 hours almost, and my rank is at 48k kek.

  • @ErwanS
    @ErwanS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video is so well done! I recognize myself so much in it, thank you to TH-cam for recommending it to me

  • @faux7809
    @faux7809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey! I played in IVC as well! Funnyy
    I've had a pretty similar experience, and when it comes to playtime vs skill, I've got it pretty bad (over half my playtime is offline, I've got a total of around 2000, and I'm around 85k).
    I've always tried to compensate for my slow mechanical improvement rate by just playing a ton, but the past couple years have been especially slow no matter what.
    I can still be proud with how far I've gotten since I have a movement disorder, but I can't help comparing myself to everyone else despite the difference in situations.
    But the game is still fun, and my friends still cheer me on even though they're much better, so I'll keep going for now :)

  • @ded24lol26
    @ded24lol26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the production on this video is so fucking good, keep it up

  • @buttermackrel
    @buttermackrel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo really nice editing. People like you are making the osu content scene pop off

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you i'll do that for sure

  • @aW5uY25jNzc1Nw
    @aW5uY25jNzc1Nw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mindset also helps for getting over a skill wall

  • @dawnsdice
    @dawnsdice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is actually a really well made video, i've felt like this in the past but ended up getting over it and just focusing on having fun, i haven't been improving as quick as i used to but it's still great to see the small gains

  • @cappu1881
    @cappu1881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i hit a osu skillwall so i switched to mania now im about to pass my relative std skill level in mania

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Then move to taiko obviously

  • @warNTM
    @warNTM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been there and still am, in 2019 I reached my peak rank of 7,000 and thought I was gonna keep improving untill I couldn't get any more decent 340+PP plays and felt frustrated cuz of that. Tried changing my sensitivity, my play style, different keys etc and nothing seemed to work, then I gave up, after 3/4 years of basicly innactivity (just occasionally playing here and there) I tried to come back to osu! and it worked! I topped my best score 7 times and got way more 340+PP plays which put me from 26k up to 15k which is today (total of 900 Raw PP), all in around 10 days of playing. I was surprised but still I feel like I should have a 400PP play already and unfortunatelly what I got is a First Storm FC for 395PP and a literall 1 miss and a play with 1 sliderbreak on 7 star ghost rule which could have been easily my first 400. The point being is that sometimes it's ok to take big breaks maybe not so big as mine for you to have somewhat of a mental reset I would say. But anyway do what you enjoy most and ignore rank it really doesn't matter, there are people in the range of 50k+ that are way better than me. Just enjoy the game :) (heres my profile in case you guys are curious haha :D osu.ppy.sh/users/6772929

  • @miles-osu3976
    @miles-osu3976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as someone who has been between #2k and #1k for the greater part of 6 years, this video really resonated with me. great video!!

  • @makotheowl
    @makotheowl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me, what made me improve past the 80K was forcing myself to play 6.6 - 7 star maps, it's been 3 months and i am 50k now and very close to my 7* FC and a few more 300pp plays

  • @JasonSutisna
    @JasonSutisna ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes we just forget that we can enjoy games in other way beside competitives
    This video is so relatable, Love it~

  • @garulouie
    @garulouie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've only watched up until 1:50 so far at the time of writing, but I relate way too much to this as a 4K player. I usually practice in etterna, and I feel like every chart out there is too difficult for my skill range. And honestly I have no idea how people somehow read complex patterns. I feel like I have everything set up, I have a fast but still readable scroll speed, i'm looking at a general part of the note lane, but nothing works when I approach a complex note pattern. It all blends together, yet if I switch to a faster scroll, it's all too fast for me to react. It doesn't help that when I ask for advice, I'm just given the number one vague answer: "Practice". I feel like i'm literally unable to win or at least preform well on something professional level. All I can really do is post videos of my gameplay, but I'm not sure if i'll even get assistance from that.

  • @whiffHarder
    @whiffHarder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a player who is steadily declining since 2019 despite of active playing (60k to 110k with 1.1k hours), I relate to this video a bit too much. The only difference being I had a "play for fun" phase before the practice skillset phase, and the game I switched to is a tablet game.
    There's a lot more resource to figure out what went wrong in your skillset that might cause a skill wall nowadays, I legit had no idea what went wrong, so I just force myself to play for fun by playing offline so I won't feel terrible for constantly shit missing at maps that's supposedly within my skill range.
    Hey at least I finally broke my skill wall a little bit recently, which is reading, and hit another new one, nerve control. I'm just happy that I'm seeing progress. Also went from a jump one trick to a stream player that shit miss at the easiest jump lol.

    • @whiffHarder
      @whiffHarder ปีที่แล้ว

      As a seasoned skill walled player, here's some advice that works for me, and may or may not work for you:
      reading: probably the most important skill set, as it is easily overlooked. If you can't see how you missed (over aim/under aim etc.), it's most likely a reading problem. Try to focus on every note if possible, especially on jumps.
      streaming: try to be as relax as possible. My streaming speed takes a big hit whenever i tense up. Also sitting posture matters, if my wrist is above elbow, both speed and stamina takes a big hit
      aiming: try different sens/area. I'm a mouse player but it's probably still applies for tablet. Even if it doesn't works out and you switched to the original settings, the experience still helps. Lower sens/larger area helps with big jumps, higher sens/smaller area helps with precision.
      Mindset: I can't say much other than "play for fun". If you're not having fun in some way (either from gaining ranks/skill, or enjoying the songs/maps etc.), you won't be playing the game for long. I've never force myself to do anything i don't like and that's why I'm still enjoying the game after 6 years
      Also know that most of your practice and experience will eventually helps you, sometimes unexpectedly. My low/high sens phase helps, at stated in aiming, "play for fun" phase helps me with high star & tech maps, and also aim control, speed practice improved my stamina, long stream somehow improved after switching back from ring index to middle index, learning nomod improved my HD reading as a HD onetrick, even playing other rhythm game solidify that reading is my biggest issue, so don't be discourage to try out new stuff.
      Edit: Also, take every advice with a grain of salt (including this one), something might works for other players, but not for you (even if they're a top player). If you don't feel it's working for you then just stop.

  • @nemroz_osu
    @nemroz_osu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video, you put everything into words extremely well and it made me realize i gotta stop playing for rank

  • @Dasher-fc3zc
    @Dasher-fc3zc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    im kinda at a similar situation in beat saber right now, ive been hovering around rank 300 for 8 months and i see everyone getting so much better than me. its really hard not to feel down about it especially when you used to consider them equals.

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      break down that skill wall, you got this!

  • @flexibilityosu
    @flexibilityosu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The production quality is better than alot of big osu youtubers. S tier

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      haha thank you

  • @phonem963
    @phonem963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i also had a similar issue as you, even though my play hour is 5 times lower than yours i feel like ill never be able to get out from 6 digit.
    I love playing any kind of rythm games so i play every modes in osu. after playing some time i realised osu!taiko was much more enjoyable and appealing to me. and now im almost #6000 global and #20 in my country with half play time. but i do hope ill manage to become 5 digit in osu!str some time later.

  • @coolstuffgaming
    @coolstuffgaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid, I relate to the arcade transition
    Great storytelling!
    (Though i cant really relate to the rank anixety)

  • @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
    @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who is still a 6 digit with like 400-500 hours it really felt like i was trash at this game, i saw people with half my playtime getting 300pp plays and just thought to myself "Wow wtf am i doing wrong? Is it just my fate to always be dogshit at this game?"
    Then i started caring less about ranks and more about having fun and enjoying the circle clicking process and everything changed, i broke a skill wall i was stuck in, got 35k ranks in about two weeks and my skill level is at an all time high, everytime i boot up the game im actually happy to be playing it.
    Its been a month or two since i broke that skill wall and while i still feel like im improving every single day that i play, im not explosively going up the ranks and thats completely fine, as i know that as long as i keep playing, one day ill break another wall and improve explosively once more and ill have fun doing it

  • @MaybeNeonCircles
    @MaybeNeonCircles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man, especially the mindset part!

  • @wingo9967
    @wingo9967 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video! playing IVC2 currently, shame to not see you here. funnily enough im teamed with leilarain!!! always a throwback teasing her by mentioning your tourney experience video, keep up the grind and just play for fun, is game after all

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!! Wish you good luck in IVC2

    • @wingo9967
      @wingo9967 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaowAngel ty ty, RO16 winners currently, will try our best!!

  • @Rezeee
    @Rezeee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have not played the game in months but i'll still come back once in a while to watch this banger from saow

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's all the osu you need B)

  • @Bittshrooms
    @Bittshrooms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and if you're ever lost in the "skill" leaderboard, you can go to the score farmer route cause the number will always go up as long as you play new maps

  • @meaty2406
    @meaty2406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man i dont even play osu but this video hit way harder than i expected ;w; Excellent video with great editing btw really nice job!

  • @popcat19
    @popcat19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's just about improvement, but also experience throughout the journey

  • @Tacozz.
    @Tacozz. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video, relate to a lot of the ideas in here

  • @LeimWokki
    @LeimWokki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was great video. I've been thinking about this too for like 1 month now thinking that i have hit a skill wall but i still think i have one more in me.♥️

  • @daiyas_3596
    @daiyas_3596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Playing consistently everyday is what fixed my skill wall. Playing at least an hour a day helps(an hour of PLAYING, not leaving the game open. I'd add up the time of the maps I played and made sure it all added up to at least an hour)

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  ปีที่แล้ว

      addiction 100

    • @daiyas_3596
      @daiyas_3596 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SaowAngel Nah im being fr. I would inconsistently play everyday. Sometimes for 30 min to 2 hours, but this wasn't even actual map play time. Once I started actually PLAYING and hour a day I made steady improvements.

  • @wayblitzmak7103
    @wayblitzmak7103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bro u have the same keyboard and keycaps as me
    yes i had nothing better to say except maybe
    amazing vid
    i like the pov view and narrator story telling

  • @striffy8408
    @striffy8408 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know how this feels, I've been deranking in osu mania for a very long time. I just eventually gave up on trying to get my rank up, now I just play for fun, also trying to get better at 7 key. My goal originally was to get to rank 4999, but when I got close I found myself losing all motivation and now I'm all the way down to rank 6,542. Maybe I'll get there one day

  • @thanatossystem8759
    @thanatossystem8759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in the end when playing osu you always have to try to play outside your comfort zone, many times it happens (and it has happened to me several times) that you instinctively lock yourself in what you think is your "skill" but in reality if you actively try consciously play maps where you don't get A rank or 98 acc, you'll notice that you're lousy but it's okay eventually you'll improve if you keep pushing. In my case, having the phrase "Tomorrow will be another day" has helped me a lot. Patience and discipline will always be the most important things to improve, although you don't need patience or discipline if you just play this way out of pure passion.
    PD: abuse osu trainer, like seriously. I've barely been using it and it's very useful.

  • @BruhICantPVP
    @BruhICantPVP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was amazing, i could see the visible effort. Awesome!