We should. While I am Caucasian, my Great Grandfather was 100% Arapaho Native American. What our government did and continues to do to the Native Americans is a disgrace. I have seen the poor living conditions in Wyoming. It is very sad.
Dale Wilson Native Americans is doing a good job of that themselves. Visit the reservations, and the casinos do not count. And witness their tribal ceremonies.
This video is about monuments and artifacts depicting whites folks history in the USA, in particularly white confederate history..the native Americans need to do their own videos to enlighten the American people...let the statues, monuments and artifacts remain where they are!
@@Videostoredontgo I have no native american heritage in my background at all but I still feel very grieved about how the native Americans were treated. God bless them.
Remember: No child is born a racist. They are trained to become racists. Small children are actually "colourblind". They see a friend and play with them. Stop corrupting the children!
This is why the southern leadership should have faced trials of crimes against humanity instead of being exonerated on monuments and its why the subjects of southern leadership, its citizens should have been under occupation and denied representation in the U.S. government without undergoing a well thought out decades long processing. They declared war and they were rapidly normalized and permitted to retain pride in their insurrection.
White people stopped raisin they kids to be racist for the most part. But the blk community still teaches are kids to hate white people and to be victims and that's why we cant better ourselves
Amen, my mom never, never had no prejudice we were never taught to hate any color & our family has everything in it well not an Asian in it that I know of! Prejudice is so learned in the home! And I was born in 1961! And had to me The Best Mom In The World!
Why not remove the block and put it in a museum. People are not learning from it if they are mocking it. I remember once going to a boutique consignment shop out on a beach and they were selling, literally selling a set of slave chains . I mean original , authentic, from an actual slave ship and engraved on it was the word child. I was sick to my stomach. I can only imagine having to walk past this block every day and see people make a mockery of it.
I don't think it should be hidden any more than concentration camps in Germany are but it must not be a place of mockery. The south should have been occupied for decades after their leadership was tried for crimes against humanity. They should have been denied representation for as long of a time. They should have been rebuilt under the same strict directives Germany was.
I think rewriting the plaque would also better if they keep it there. D.C. has monuments depicting different wars and the Holocaust Museum has horrific photos but it's all in the wording and how you teach someone about the past. If it appears to be celebrating the tragedy then the message is lost.
@@kasaundrataylor997 sis I was thinking the same had my Spidey Sense tingling like who TF what a reminder of generational slavery that occurred in the span of 800 year's til today.... Nobody needed to keep it once the slave trade stopped point blank period it's bad enough our ancestors had to see it there wit tht same reminder tht they themselves or someone they knew had been sold there just secs mins hours ago from that 1 spot families torn apart so I'ma need ppl taking about keeping it ANYWHERE TO STFU lol it's distasteful disrespectful an has no place in our society we can see auction blocks online OUR PEOPLE DON'T NEED EXTRA WHEN WE ALREADY BLACK IN THE WORLD
I would have leaned right over and knocked him right of his chair..he knew they knew for gods sake he spelt it out and then said “just like you pick”..old swine
@7 Points Entertainment Yep. He was a one eyed A-hole who has probably never left his county. Did I hear him say it's the best country on earth. Us Aussies and Kiwis will just stay here thanks, with our free universal health care etc etc.
Ha! Another black youth that needs to educate themselves before they speak. Apparently, black people have forgotten that during the civil war it was the Republicans that abolished slavery and the Democrats that were pro slavery until the early 1900's. And fun fact... most African slaves brought to North America were sold by other Africans to white people. So why do black people support a country (Africa) and party (Democrats) that enslaved your ancestors? Truthfully you should hate Africa and Democrats because any imagery, monuments, etc. is just a hurtful reminder of how they oppressed and enslaved your ancestors. I put more info below so you won't forget YOUR history!🙄 The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade involved the transportation by slave traders of enslaved African people, mainly to the Americas. The slave trade regularly used the triangular trade route and its Middle Passage, and existed from the 16th to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those who were enslaved and transported in the transatlantic slave trade were people from Central and West Africa, who had been sold by other West Africans to Western European slave traders (with a small number being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids), who brought them to the Americas. The Democratic Party is the oldest voter-based political party in the world and the oldest existing political party in the United States, tracing its heritage back to the anti-Federalists and the Jeffersonian Democratic-Republican Party of the 1790s. Known as the party of the "common man", the early Democratic Party stood for individual rights, state sovereignty, and opposed banks and the abolition of slavery.
And it's crazy because the whole reason why many of these monuments were put up was so they could warp history or forget it. They'll gloss over any mentions of slavery and instead sing the praises and wave the flag of the confederacy - romanticizing it as if that side won the war smh
"If my son asked me about Robert E. Lee, I don't say, "ah, I could've told you last week but they took down the statue. Now, I have no way of getting that information." There are no statues of Hilter in Germany." Jim Jefferies 2017
There is one in Montgomery Alabama, call the memorial for peace and justice. My company built it. It features huge stone blocks hanging from metal rods, at varying heights, and each stone represents a person that was lynched during the Jim crow era in the south. Its very powerful to see it in person, and read each stone. Like I said, we fabricated all the steel for it. But it wasn't until I went down for the grand opening and walked through it, that I realized what it was all about. It moved me to tears.... I highly recommend paying it a visit. It is awesome
Great point if they can have their memorabilia From Slavery then why can't we build statues to everything that happened i.e., dead bodies hanging from trees, people being burned on bonfires, young white children looking up and grimacing at black men being hung from trees, black babies being fed two alligators as bait, human petting zoos. Do I need to continue? oh they wouldn't have that so they're white children can be horrified at what they did to another human being. Let's leave there statues up and right Along Side their statues let's put statues of what I just mentioned and see how white ppl like that.
Just put these monuments in to a museum and call it museum of shamefull American history, Germany made pretty much the same with the kzs and it's a good thing, keep the historic pieces but make the interaction with them a learning and understanding experience for future generations. It just standing there doesn't do a thing for a better future
"What benefit did they get from slavery?" "They're here." In a nutshell, this is the egotistical attitude that some Americans have that makes my skin crawl.
@@user-od4zo1ow6d do u think if u stayed in Europe you'd have the pampered life u have here now?? Lmao u don't know wtf black people would have. Btw come to where im from and show me the pampered life us blacks have....
@@Cash60Loc People like T need to prove that their identity has value through their 'revolutionary' speech. Responding gives them value. This person is literally a name with no content or subscribers. Don't waste words or time on this person.
All the historic value, move it to a museum so people can see it if they choose. Not leave it in public as a scar and reminder of a suffering people. Germany do not leave Nazi memorabilia in the public as "history". They move it to a designated place. For all those that want it left in plain sight for everyone to see, there is a degree of- "That's right. And you better watch out cause we can do it again. Remember what we did to you. You Mahn Boyee".
15:56 - Gordon Cotton emphasis on cotton - just as you pick he says - his tone, implication and defiant look sums up the attitude that is why there has been no real change and we are still living in bad history
@sara vee NO REAL CHANGE? You re kidding, right? Don't get me wrong......we've got some ways to go.....but, nobody I know is racist. And, I am not an anomaly. This is evident in the friends my kids have around them, who are every shade and ethnicity under the sun. I'd say there's been CHANGE. Improvement's always needed, tho. We can start by educating our youth with TRUE history.....and removing the offensive monuments, whose sole purpose, was to honor white supremacy.
@ Dante, it's quite common for them to give an ignorant answer since they do not know what to say. Personaly, I received the same when I raised an alarm after a white Female tried withought success to murder me.
They are here 😂! Who took them here ? For what they here ? How there we’re brought here? Did they ask to and here ? If you answer honestly this questionsI will definitely see how ignorant you are ! But no matter what black live matter . If you love me I do if don’t I do love because all the same as a human being ❤️ love is everything!
Jamie Horn .you’re right they hide behind the scene while the blacks and the whites fight . But they’re the real enemy because they’re the ones pulling the strings most people don’t see it
Jamie Horn 💙🦋🌳 What? OK - you have DNA proof Martha Washington, George w., Jefferson - and the others.. Jefferson Davis ... etc were Jewish? DNA proof?
There is no equivalency between Hitler and Robert E Lee. The confederates supported slavery in a time when it had been the norm for all of human history up until that point. Try and put yourself in the shoes of someone from that time and place. With that in mind the confederates fort for their people just like everybody else has in every war in human history and they deserve to be honored by their descendants.
Hitler sent weapons,food aide,technical support to Africa read about Arab league Hitler had Africans in his army with more rights compared to segregated US millitary
@@HecClaytos4956 Nazi's supported anti-semitism "in a time when it had been the norm for all of human history until that point". Remember even the US denied passage of a ship of Jewish refugees escaping Hitler's advance through Europe. Ironically, Nazi's ideologies in America is supported as free speech under the first amendment yet a more liberal and progressive Germany has laws against it. So what's the false equivalency between statues venerating Confederacy and Nazism? A Truth, Justice and Reconciliation was never had in America. Apartheid South Africa went through this, so did Germany after 1945. In the 1960's "second generation guilt" swept over Germany as grandchildren of the SS, Nazi party members and others asked why their parents and grandparents didn't stand against Nazism. That generation was at the forefront of the Anti-Nazism laws in Germany. In America after the Civil War, instead of "second generation guilt" along with truth, justice and reconciliation, organisations like "Daughters of the Confederacy" embarked on historical revisionism.
@@Belioyt anti semitism was normal but not to the extent of genocide which is why the Nazis are considered so evil. Also there's nothing liberal about restricting free speach. Germany's anti nazi laws are just a continuation of that countries authoritarian tradition. South Africa had their truth and justice commision because the black majority was now in charge so it's a different situation. The Germans had that wave of guilt because what they had done was considered abhorrent even by the times standards. The south was a different situation. You can't expect late 19th century southerners to feel guilty about slavery when it was still legal in most of the non western world.
@@HecClaytos4956 is this "american exceptionalism"? Other nations can admit they were wrong and take steps to repair their past for the future but not America?
I agree , a museum is a more appropriate place for something like that. Leaving it in the street is just crass , unquthe and common. It's a piece of history and it brings up negative feelings on both sides , you cant leave something like that in the steeet.
In New Orleans they just put up a historic marker where there used to be a slave auction place! Just the opposite! So the public would know what happened there...?? So Fredericksburg is hiding this? While New Orleans wants this history known.
@@duantorruellas716 What is more, "Appropriate" than where this horror actually happened. The blacks should see this as a lesson or reminder to the whites of what they did to their ancestors! I don't get it?
Yes it is very sickening because America is a genocidal apartheid country. How have the Europeans benefitted by being in control of such a system? Creating wealth? Is wealth creation the purpose of life? Where is that wealth today to pay off national debt? Or the few wealthy families is the reason why all should be happy.
Ya. 2016-2018 "Democratic Republic" of Congo, Nigeria, New Guinea, Somalia, Libya- STILL TRYING TO ESCAPE & come to North America. BEEN GOING Through Brazil... Must be pretty bad there!!!!!!
@DontBlameTheDog don't forget the horrible treatment, despite our "civility" for generations, or the disposal of slaves as if they were breeding livestock. Can't forget the sexual abuses. Or the child murders. I guess it's okay because SOME of the slaved population were a result of tribal warfare - PSA there had to have already been a market and economy for colored slaves -- for demand to have existed Europeans would have already had to have trafficked slaves successfully. So all-together, this isn't a good argument because it ignores all other factors of the trade environment.
Don't worry about the things that were done to us you will read it in the Bible the Bible tells you of all the things that you will have to endure until the creator judge that nation's read Deuteronomy chapter thirty read it and you will see who the creator sent on ships and carried away unto a strange land and be carried away on ships with lron on the legs and arms and neck you were writing of as the people that would do that to the most high God children and if you pay attention to the book you. Will know who the most high God children and how long you would sojoin in that land for four hundred yrs and after then he will come and deliver his people so you know all ready where he's coming to judge the people that mistreated his people and the profits has said that l don't know why they think that God will not judge him they are in the center of the judge ment there is no way they will get away and killing people and taking the natives land and you have the nerve to say you love the creator well the creator don't listen to you it's just not your time yet and when it's time to judge you all and you will know why he's judging you look around and see what is happening to this nation it's falling and will not be able to get up and this is the creator work and it is time to judge no one can stop it it were all ready written and so will it be and no one can stop this fall it is meant to be all things has a beginning an end the universe is taking America down just as it were written and there is nothing no one can do to save it America have had her time under the sun now is the time of her trouble and who will speak good of her you will know your sins and soon you will be judged according to your deeds and the most high God will not play with anyone he's not going to be weak and as the books say just as thy has done so shall it be done unto you l always knew something was wrong l didn't have a clue until l understood the book and that it was talking about the Hebrew and l started to reading everything that l could get my hands on the wheel that l have heard people talking about ezeckiel talked about and the people signed world be an eagle so much were written and about the dry bones in the valley because people had denied the creator children and some one elese we're walking around with their clothes on their history their names everything that belongs to the creator children. A false people were walking around with the Creator's children clothes and put them on themselves but the power knows where his children are and has always known and they will know him when he comes and he's not coming to bless them but to slay them all he don't want to. Hear nothing because he saw it all and this world will be as it were in the beginning no more killing no more stealing the formal things will pass away
Jeffrey Neal Maybe for you, everything is all hunky dory, sugar and rainbows when we “just don’t talk about it” but not talking about it doesn’t change the fact that we still face discrimination today. If we lived in a hypothetical world where nobody speaks about race, you know what will happen? People will just continue to deal with discrimination and just not talk about it. Essentially what you’re saying is “will you all just shut up and stop talking about it, you’re making me feel uncomfortable/guilty/attacked”
Those lynchings in the 60's. Make me want to puke. Hey!!Ms is changing their flag..plus no black people / shotby cops have been shot there recently? That states history is horrid.. plus the shootings were in a morthern State and ky a ( neutral state) not the old south.So how did the northern boys learb racism.. I live in ky.mit is taught.. But I wouldnt think in Minneapolis racisim is so bad?? Idk
@Peter Torbay You will have to suffer for what your forefathers did just as we are suffering now for what ours did... Zechariah 11:5 “Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.” Who does this happen to on the regular you have some nerve to say just get over it you may want us to get over it but the LORD will never forget what you have done to his people Ecclesiastes 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. All of the curses we had to suffer in Deuteronomy 28th chapter shall be put upon all you heathens not of the nation of Israel Isaiah 51:21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine: 22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: 23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over. This is a prophecy that hasn't came to pass yet! But rest a sure it's coming!
That seems extremely offensive to any African American that is expected to walk by these monuments. History should never be erased, why not just moved them to museums?
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Photos and maybe destroy. They don't keep certain things.
wait until CCP china, conquer your land , and dismantle all statue around your place, like what they did in thier own history.. they force old china into cummunism..
@@lisamays4914 Not if it states that something just happened. A plaque can say an event in history happened here and not bestow honor and praise on the event itself. Aushwitz doesn't bestow honor on the Nazis but it reminds US that something terrible happened there. I understand what you mean but a marker is different from honoring with naming a street or a city after someone that doesn't deserve it.
The city council that claimed keeping the auction block was like Germany keeping concentration camps needs to be challenged to do the other things Germany did like ; ban the Nazi flag, tell the full story at those sites, teach the full story in their schools, REPARATIONS, no honoring of Nazi participants etc..
@Benito Mussolini Didn't Billy boy Clinton give an apology. No matter. The Clintons love money more than anything else. One item not on my list of things Germany did after the war, prosecute major leaders and bad actors.
I mean still it would be cool to see back in history to what it was like...I think it woulda been a great idea for concentration camps to have been turned into museums and the auction block to stay to tell the next generation the story
I am full german that lives in America and even I get told I'm racist because I am white in color do not be fooled. My ancestors died when they hid some Blacks and Jews in the basement on the home.What I see is that the Blacks are the ones calling Racist in the open streets when they don't get there own ways. It matters not about history or the things you have destroyed. What matters is what are you doing about it that will help?
@2B REAL and what seems funny, in a real disturbing way, to me is the fact that all of this happened because the US intervened. The US freed germany of the nazis and told them to go apologize, to teach the full story etc. which I am extremely thankful for btw, because I feel like I can live in a peaceful germany today....but why is it so so hard for them to see that they act the complete opposite of what they taught other countrys?
I find it interesting that people that want to preserve this history are also saying to black people "get past it". Why not build a museum and put these monuments there?
Because they're also there to commemorate confederate veterans who deserve to be commemorated. They fought very bravely for what they thought was right.
@@tctopcat1981 No, but they should give some respect to the rank and file German soldiers who fought in that war, who defended their country against Stalin. Which is what most of these confederate monuments do. They're mostly paying homage to the confederate soldiers generally for fighting for their communities regardless of the politics of the war. Even if politically they were on the wrong side of history they still deserve to be honored.
@@HecClaytos4956 are you suggesting Germans erect statues of Nazi generals - "Even if politically they were on the wrong side of history"? Because the Germans who lost to Stalin while trying to invade the soviet union were Nazis. Call them what they are, and come out and say exactly what you are saying. "German soldiers who fought in that war," should read "Nazi German soldiers who fought in that war," because it was Nazi Germany that dealt with Stalin during WWII. But guess what? None of those Nazi Generals have statues erected in Germany. Do you understand why?
Solstice awakening, time to receive, as it pertains to metaphysics. However, the opposite being the Dialectical is an imparetive for effective positioning. #changeisinevitable.
annunakee - fictional for story line purpose of the show, but most definitely the massacre happened and plenty of articles describing in detail what, when and where.
If every African American woman would choose (pro-choice) in about a hundred yrs that would solve racism, oppression & killing by white cops, (true-fact) please vote Democrat & demand Planned Parenthood set up clinics in every African American neighborhood
Your generation was weak n they took advantage of that. That I'm sorry for bc everyone wants peace. What about natives Americans as I am. History lies. No one was weak the honor is peace but they don't get it back then.
History-doesn't mean it was right. Slavery was common globally even in Africa. 1968, my family moved to Atlanta from Detroit as a kid then (for my dad's job) I saw thru any racism in south vs. north. A friend's mom (then) in GA said she'd "never live in north with the yankees". Lingering grudges & racism but times have really changed, believe it or not.
I think a museum is a good idea.....but where it is hits really hard as to what happened to enslaved Africans. Its like a glimpse into history. "This very area was an auction for slaves." That's the raw truth in front of us
As an Italian and growing up with an anti-fascist ethic, this documentary is very informative. Please keep removing all statues with the racist individuals (as they did in Philly with Rizzo). This is the time for a change, please do not let it slip away. With solidarity and support from an Italian and anti-fascist. Black Lives Matter.
Don't worry will be coming to Italy and making sure we remove everything we see standing... Including your Sinigods of Satan... Where your Popes get a kick off of touching little boys ....
@@KDH-br6hy Being jewish or a jew is a religion, not an ethnicity. It doesn't define where (country) you come from but what religion you believe in. There are russian jews, ethiopian jews, isreali jews, german jews, etc...Hope that helps clarify.
@@AntonioGarcia-xw1ei Yep...exactly all empires through out history had slaves. It's what was considered normal at the time. What the United States did at that time as wrong as it was, was considered normal. Which is why all statues and monuments should be left alone as a reminder of the wrong doings of a time long ago. Without history man can not learn not to repeat those mistakes.
JoeC's_RC ironically confederate monuments tend to have been built as part of a movement to propagate the ‘lost cause’ myth (and intimidate black people) which is an intentional distortion of history which does nothing to remind people of the atrocity that is chattel slavery or the fact that the south fought to keep the institution of slavery alive.
@Brett Pechatsko they are going to learn that from a statute that glorifies them. If we wanted to teach it would need to be put in context. Is a terrible human being gets a status that says "In honor of. .." doesn't that make them seem like a great person. I dont see what point you are trying to make. Most European- Americans/caucasians just like to argue about certain things but not upholding others.
They got pass it becuz they weren’t effected, so of course it’s possible for this to be a thing of the past. For the ppl that have family that actually died from or had to barely live through that... How u evn have audacity to suggest we get over it without acknowledging or exposing what low key STILL exist
Right, because no slave owner EVER did anything good or virtuous or noble in their lives. Good and bad do not negate each other. They live along side each other inside the human soul.
Because its about history. You just want everyone to forget history. Look slavery is wrong but its true when its said that everyone in America has benifits. You're free to better yourself. Like these 2 black gents, they talk, look, and act professional and well educated. Some may even say they are white washed. But no, they chose something better regardless of history. And the same goes for everyone in the US regardless of color or race. You need to choose to be better
@Decadent _Descent Please try to make Sense....History is everywhere...you can read it online google wikipedia youtube documentaries schools Museums and classrooms....Stupid hateful images flags statues and paraphanelia in public spaces are useless
@Decadent _Descent Dude....You are sadly not making sense...History needs to be shoved down peoples throats???? Listen glad my city doesnt have them stupid statues or flag anywhere but i know the history of America...i know the history of The greek Egyptians Mesopotamia without travelling there...The ugly flags and stautes are an insult to African Americans and American Natives....Not sure but doesn't seem you are very well educated which is the problem Brother
When I (a white immigrant) moved to New Orleans and saw a statue of Roger E. Lee and asked who he was, a friend (black) explained to me who he was. I asked why would they put up a statue of a looser and keep it there? That friend just laughed and shrug shoulders. I never got an answer. I didn’t know that the animosity between the north and the south still existed. But these confederate statues always looked very odd to me but it got me interested regarding in reading American History, especially racial relation, because there was nothing I understood about it. And what a journey I’ve gotten on since that spring day in 1997. What I really don’t understand is the incredible constrain and discipline the black community has. Sadly I have sometimes witness them misdirecting this tension against each other. That is what happen with any abused group. In a way, I am glad they are taking it outwards, because it needs to be done. It saddens me that it has to be done, but I see no other way for the black community in order to get an equal footing in this country. Being an outsider, to me it’s absurd that they are forced to do this.
It was a tactic from the very beginning to make sure black people didnt come together and rise against white supremacy. -Dont put people who can speak to each other close -Keep some with special privileges -Create self hatred and keep them docile with jesus. Its systemic, structural, institutionalized and we built this country. We dont want to ruin it.
@@Aldinonexilus exactly lol....also I believe the only way we can move forward from our past is by accepting it's not our past and it still affects our present
@@casie_gg7771 literally in this video u here a man say ....I saw them stage a moch auction....so yes it's being used to taunt black people it shud be removed
Why would a museum want edifices created as part of a propaganda campaign by pro-Confederacy groups years, decades, and 100+ years after losing a war? Hundreds of these statues are in states that didn't even exist during the Civil War. These are not artifacts worthy of precious museum space.
Ollie Ollie Many museums probably wouldn’t want them. It would only make their facilities targets and points of focus for rage the next time something bad happens. I personally don’t care if the statues of slave-owning democrats from long ago stay up or are taken down and destroyed. It won’t change history. Maybe it would improve things in the future. That would be my hope.
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I think something like the auction block remaining in its original location would have a greater impact, if the intention is to educate. Standing at the very spot blacks were sold as slaves is jarring. But that's just my opinion as a white Canadian man who would only see it once as a tourist. If blacks say it needs to go, then it needs to go. I can also see the need to remove it if served as some kind of shrine to white supremacists.
@@filipinotagalog9371 what you feel is the short little wires in your head getting crossed up my friend. You only made that comment to feel somehow connected to the conversation, and that's just sad....
Thats like me saying that I feel what my ancestors went through when they were put on a forced march to the west, ran off of their land so the English and Spanish could have it. Its nonsense... I don't feel a thing. And if anyone deserves reparations, its people like me I guess. My land and way of life was robbed from me. Nevermind the fact that it happened over 200 years ago... I want money!!!!
Greetings from Jamaica, where your brothers and sisters are standing with you in solidarity for the pride and dignity of the African peoples, not on an auction block but on our own two feet as an independent BLACK led nation. Marcus Garvey said....''Up you mighty race, you can accomplish what you will "'
It just hit me. The argument is always something like this- “Think of that time” or “Jefferson Davis was a man of his time”. What is African Americans started clubbing you over the head saying- “This is our time”. Would that be okay?
It hit you while smoking pot... The whole argument, with it was a different time, is that we today are different peoples, with different values and a bit more civilized. You can't judge the past by today's morals.
@Sheka I'm French and i just learnt the story about The Moores in Europe, they erased our history ! The Black nobility of Europe was black people... The Britons, not the britISHS were black people too, the DANish are probably from the tribe of Dan and they mock them with the black face dressed as ROYALTIES because they erased us over there ! Be carefull with all the 'ISHS, most of them are just remplacement of the originals. Maures=Bantus=Israelites the real jews from AFRICA
@@casie_gg7771 Pain is pain and everyone feels it. Concluding that the society is not civilized because you meet some rich racist republicans at school, is in no way different from having a racist opinion about an entire ethnic group, because at some point you had a bad experience with some of its members. I am not American, and I don't live in US. I am seeing things from outside. You guys have no idea what a racist society really looks like. In racist society, those who have the majority would not turn over their heads and fall on their knees to please the minority towards which they are supposedly racists. In a racist society you lose your job, or friends, or have your life destroyed over some remotely racist remark, or even public hate speech. In a real racist society, the term racist hold no negative connotation. White peoples in America look pathetic in the way they try to pander to non-whites. Far from racist...
Ryan, what about the injustice that minorities are facing as we speak. I am sorry to say but, we are still living in the past. Believe me we want nothing more than to be treated like human beings. I love all race because I believe God is love. I can only pray for those who hate us because of the color of our skin.
#that part it got worser now with gain's gun's drug prostitution kidnapping killing kid's human trafficking police brutality. Homeless # I can go on and on
Most of our people who were enslaved in North, Central, and South America and the Caribbean come from the Bantu/Ibo Tribes of West Africa and the Congo. Our history is beautiful. Our history is in the Bible.
@Chuck Farley dood - educated people tend to be the folks who recognize that these southerners were traitors wanting to maintain the inhumane industry of SLAVERY. I believe you are projecting your own lack of education.
How can a monument torture you when it never happend to you? You need to check ✔ your black privilege cause black folks died for you to be where you are now.
@@bumperxx1 my great granddad was hanged and set on fire in front of my granddad when he was a 10 year old boy. I've had people that I knew to go missing or end up in the river. Now tell me again about my "Black Privilege."
@@lauradavis4174 i will tell you about your black privilege. It been bestowed apon you to carry on living a life of freedom to try to pursue a state of happiness. Its cause all peoples sacrifice to now for you and everyone to have privilege.
@@lauradavis4174 everyone has privilege now i just used the words black privilege to be provocative and get your attention. There is no black or white or any color of privilege. It just plain human rights and they are being violated and stopped on but we are better than that and we need to move forward.
yet fake news doesnt want you to know that George Floyd is a criminal 2007 charged with home invasion assaults, 2009 put in jail for armed robbery and drugs. Yet his death was justice for his victims.
Children of slaves are still living. My great grand parents were born in 1901,1903,1910 & 1911. 😑 children of slaves & children that were slaves are still alive. Not all but some
11:26 "Haven't we got beyond [slavery]?" Asked by the guy who invests time and resources in dressing in costume and playing Confederate soldier regularly.
@@davemorey1601 Then right after that you hear him say, "This language is not my native language either." American English IS your native language if you were born and grew up here. The same applies to all three of these gentlemen.
Slavery and additional 150 years of Jim Crow laws and modern day slavery via the prison system still affects black Americans today. This has hurt generations upon generations. We cant just get over it when we are still suffering from it
@@marissajeffers8302 Stop. You're not being discriminated and you're mocking your ancestors who were ACTUALLY opressed. You just want to feel special, and that is fine but not this way. You are as free as any other color in this day and age. Just because you interpret everything negative that's happening in your life as racism that's your problem not the country's.
I’m sick of all of this. This world is going crazy. I’m glad I’m the age I am and will soon be gone. My home is in Heaven and I can’t wait to get there!
@@kjvonly2451 Unfortunately us young people in our teens and twenties will have to stand this longer. It's not a easy fight. I hope that in my lifetime conditions and lives of people of color and of anytype that is discriminated against will hget to have a very good life. And when my generation is dying off, I hope the next kids will have things very well for them. But even so, they should always be taught abou what happened. Because it can always happen again.
@SexySwagg Actually most of it was stolen by Spanish & sold to us. Read a book. Texas was it's own Republic & choose to join us. New York was sold to us by natives. California was ceded to the United States after Texas gained it's independence from Mexico because they thought Texas would soon come for it & they had no desire to go to war with Texas again.Most of the Midwest was also bought through deals like the Louisiana Purchase.
When I was a kid I remember studying the Civil War and being fascinated by the war fighters and learning about the atrocities of slavery . I think it best that we remember everything that we can .
Lee is a part of history and one of the best generals in American history. We all disagree with slavery, but to try and remove our history bc it offends some ppl is a disservice to our past and we can no longer learn from it and move on. It teaches us that if something offends you, have it removed forever... which is a wrong way to go about it
@@stevenrandall8300I agree! R E Lee is surely an important historical figure, and surely one of the best American Generals. He was beloved by his men, and his strategic vision was that of a military genius. "Tiggy Piggy" couldn't put 2 sentences together, but I'd answer the same way, if the legacy of Lee is questioned.
Steven Randall: maybe we should put up statues of the 9/11 hijackers on pedestals. After all, that’s American history, and they thought they were heroes and died for a cause they believed in. Same logic
@Peter Torbay yes, but I missed the part where women were being murdered by police disproportionately in relation to the population. Kids for that matter either. Cute.
I loved the conversation with the white civil war reenactor. They had very different views here, but could debate it without any yelling or anger or name calling. Like these men just understand that its rooted, in this white privilege, its rooted in ignorance or a complete lack of understanding. This man will never understand bc he has never been discriminated against, and he didnt have to build generations of family on practically nothing. Out of slavery. It's so OBVIOUS and somehow people dont get it.
@Joe Edwards how can you say white privilege is dead when the men that killed Ahmad Arbury thought they could get away with it..... obviously bc of white privilege?
"Everybody in America, today, has a great benefit?" Well, let us ask all of the families who lost loved ones to brutality and violence. Let us ask all of the people who have opaque ceilings, not even glass ceilings. Ridiculous!
Wow, who’s keeping you down? Have you even spent any real time in another country? I have. This one is the best with the exception of liberal democrats, who were the party of slavery and opposition to civil rights, and whiny cry babies who keep voting for these evil politicians because they don’t want to succeed but want everything given to them for free. That’s the ugly cycle that gives this great country a black eye 🙄
The weird part is, as a historian and one-time reenactor, I can actually understand both sides on this one. The big problem is that to a meaningful number of our fellow citizens, the descendants of those enslaved, the Stars and Bars brings out the same feeling that a swastika does for a Jew.
And they present it as the Confederate flag which it wasn't. It was a Confederate battle flag. It did not symbolize the presumed nation but the war itself, the battles fought, the grand and glorious terrorism of the age.
I get that argument for some as well, but definitely hard disagree on the statues all made post war during the Jim crow era and civil rights movement, those all should be smashed to pieces and forgotten, with maybe some pictures left of them as a footnote in a museum or book
None of that makes our legacy of hate and oppression ok. I think most of humanity has had some form of slavery. It's not about who or where this happened; it's important that we get past this hatred. To do so we must own our shamefull heritage.
@dina bissell At least you corrected the fact that it was the Morrill tariff, not the Morrell tax. The tariff was able to pass because many of the southern Congressman left Congress because their states had seceded from the Union. The tariff was passed in March of 1861. South Carolina seceded in December of 1860, followed by 5 more states all before the tariff passed. It is universally acknowledged that slavery was the cause of the Civil War.
The Jewish people left the death camps to remember the injustice but there are no monuments to remember the Nazism and that's the way it should be so let it be with slavery. Robert E.Lee made a quote to which sums it let go southern brothers,it is over....You can read the exact words on your own. His remarks are very interesting and thoughtful
Yeah right. The Jews were and always will be black. This lie is apart of the racism of amerikkka of the world the world hates us the world lied to us but all things come to the light.....
To me keeping confederate monuments is like how serial killers keep their trophies and revisited their killing sites, we don’t build statues of them yet we our children and our grandchildren knows about them, history especially bad history should be kept in a museum.
Why not take down all Confederate monuments and then those who want to keep them for historical posterity raise funds to buy land to build a museum so all Confederate families can visit them for eternity.
@@NaturallyHighDanny Wrong. I believe every individual should have a right to honor their past as they see fit on their own dime. However, "some not all" who wave the Confederate flag tend to do it at the cost of oppressing others. I have had good and bad experiences with individuals who wave the Confederate flag. I just feel Confederate monuments should be in museums paid for by those who want to honor their past.
D J I see but those museums cost money to start up and who knows if they’ll even support the costs throughout time. Almost every idea has an oppression side to it if u ask me. Some will some won’t just how it goes.
Phew ! That was painful to watch, I see why the young generation have no qualms with knocking these statues down. I’m not going to lie, It’s a joy to see those kids right the wrongs of their forefathers.
@Jan Brady But many of the statutes aren't historical at all, and were placed after the war had long ended so museums wouldn't want them anyways... now things like auctions blocks, documents, and historical monuments and structures yes.
seeing things in a museum dont really give you that same emotional impact that is needed, also, perhaps because we are getting out of generations that dont go to them as much?
EXACTLY!!!! Thank you, someone gets it!!!! :DDDDD I was shocked to see they kept Aushwitz.....like, tear down that sh*t!!...plant a forest or something. Better yet, just tear it down and let nature take it, in its own time.....assuming its not still poisoned ground. You may put up a plaque in the area if you really feel you must. But its really morbid to keep it! In town square?? grosssss...... >.
@@andrabook8758 yes and people still claim it's for "history". History is already permanently written in books, we don't need monuments to remember something
You don't say. There are more slaves in India currently living as ever were in the US. Most slavery these days is by black and brown people against black and brown people. Leaders don't endorse it but it doesn't get stopped.
@@TeemElohim so 10,000,000 slaves in India is not an issue and off topic. Isn't slavery one of the worst human behaviours? Are there any slaves in the US well yes there is but most of them are probably Asian and it's in the 1,000s are these people worthless because they aren't black?
@@annoyedaussie3942 no,not worthless. But centuries of black people being enslaved and murdered is what this discussion is about. When that is atoned for, then all other atrocities similar to this can be looked at for what it is. Clumping all together waters down the seriousness and importance of this American Mason satanic movement. 10,000,000 is a humungous number. Very heartbreaking. However, how many millions do you think were transported, bought, and sold and died over a 300+ year period? Dont tell me to look elsewhere, when my ancestors were victimized horribly. Rectify this first
@@TeemElohim well transported as slaves directly to US about 500,000 give or take. The total numbers of slaves that ever were in the US seems difficult to find and would include born as a slave which is possibly a larger number. If you are concerned about black people being enslaved what about the estimated 9,000,000 on the African continent living at the moment. Hey email me if you want, would love to discuss with you kliddle2AThotmail.com
@Rose Lilly yes we can your "history" is slavery murder and jealousy of people with harder work ethics and stronger values then the entirety of the south thinks it has. Your history will be looked down upon the same we do with the nazis good riddance.
@Jan Brady its not erasing. she clearly said put them away, not in public. let people learn about these pro-slavery guys in history books, not revere them in public
@Rose Lilly lord! its like talking to a wall. no one is erasing your beloved pro-slavery confederate generals. they just need to get off our streets and go into the history books so they wont be forgotten
@Rose Lilly they are not terrorists, they are protestors. You won't want statues of their leaders in the streets will you? Yet they are and will be part of our history....
“Representing the glory days” you’ve got to be kidding me! Southerners dont sit around dreaming of “glory days “ and wish slavery was back. Geez thats ridiculous! The Civil War was HORRIFIC! Its just history and part of our culture.
@Peter Grahame Like the Great Pyramids of Egypt and The Sphynx!!! They should be blown up and knocked down IMMEDIATELY cuz they were built with slave labor. They must be branded --EVIL!!! Nobody should he able to enjoy them EVER! Or maybe we could stop with the “ classifying things and people as evil” mentality.
Peter Grahame You’ve made a good point. So let’s get rid of them all! We can’t and shouldn’t erase history, but we also shouldn’t shield our eyes and minds from the truth. Slave owners and traders should not be idolized blindly. The entire story needs to be told. Our precious “founding fathers” should be held accountable.
Not even stuck in their ways, older ppl from those times and their kids who are still functioning today, have bn conditioned mentally or traumatized by the things they seen known and lived through. We got the better end of the stick compared to them. Thank God for change but we still in the game
esaesa07 I kinda understand what ur thinking but maybe u would resonate with what I wrote had I used the word Improvement rather than change. Being of African decent and slightly aware of wat has bn goin on in America since I was old enough to have sense, I can see who Are for change and who could care less. Which is why we’re still pursuing equality aka “Still in the game”
The only questions to ask those sentimental to the Confederate cause is: Would you like to have been treated that way? How would you feel if your ancestor was on that block being sold, split from their families? Would you like to be reminded everyday of how your ancestors were treated? They can't see the human pain that is there until they imagine it was them, and even that is astonishing. All the rest is rationalization.
@Polly Ticks thats the thing. These folks black amd white don't want to hear the truth. They cannot handle the truth. Media supports and spins the lie. The result is unfortunate as those who are duped only end up with monuments as eternal distraction from an understanding that would truly heal.
@@grizzlyaddams3606 So what is the truth then? Monuments are not a distraction. They are a reminder to an underlying cause. I don't need the media to understand someone's pain. I ask you again, which you should have read from my comment. How would you feel? Those who say others can't handle the truth are usually the ones who can not handle the truth themselves.
@@covfefe8971 I'm one of the hundreds of thousands of white Americans who have suffered from being a targeted individual as well as police abuse. To compound the issue I come from a scientific family while I myself am a spiritual being. I have had severe medical issues my entire life. My family has fought tirelessly against fascism, racism amd police brutality. Yet everytime I turn around the folks that we fight for are there with a knife to our back because of our skin color. When the best you can do is forget, you're doomed to repeat. Monuments are reminders and yes if feels terrible but that reminder will ensure that no one will ever be allowed to do it again. Know your enemy and stop fighting those who truly support you and know what is indeed best. We have been through the same if not worse.
@@covfefe8971 in addition, white people who help black people are often targeted by both communities. Just today I was ganged up on by two white men who repeatedly harassed me because of my standing up against their use of abusive terminology on Facebook. Terminology that is unacceptable in a world where certain peopke are targeted by police injustice. Their response was to use those very terms against me over and over and over in fact six times. They have been reported. Have a nice day. Remember... I will.
look at the protests....there's ppl of every color there. The number of people who trully don't get that a free and just society is necessary for everyone is what 0.00001%? Old ghosts, of a f*cked up time that linger. Just have to find a way to bury them, while not erasing history that's all. Eventually even the stupiest person on Earth will realise that there's a price to pay for this kind of sh*t.
Trymaine and John, thank you. This had to be difficult. When I saw the lynching memorial, I lost my breath. I felt a constant flow of souls who never had the opportunity to influence the world. John said it seems like this could have happened last week as I was thinking the same. Trymaine, I feel for you when you saw the Dodge County block. We need to reconcile this history. Pronto.
@@marsalliesroyal5159 yeah and the dude on the right with dreads was looking at him with this blank stare like "you just did say that",..he was in deep thought like to respond or not like he on camera doing an interview with this guy and in his home
Mark A. Daniels Sr with most respect to you the reason people don’t want these monuments removed is because it serves a purpose of teaching people about the evils of the past that we have move past for ex. In Germany Auschwitz still stands and shows the history of that evil and the nation and it’s people have gone past it. I understand the people in Fredericksburg And how they feel and I hope they move the monument instead of destroying it and losing it’s history that it teaches us all. Thank you for reading.
@@bonda_racing3579 I don't think it teaches anything as it is. If its so important it can be put in a museum and presented in proper context with a full narrative and story to accompany it. To dismiss its offensive to a group of people is wrong
ThePicatrixXx I still believe it teaches us about how the past and how things were back then. These monuments are the closest thing to a time machine. But yeah I agree with you 100% percent having a museum for this. Look all am saying is to-move them and not destroying-them.
@@bonda_racing3579 I understand what your trying to say, and maybe that would be okay if ALL Americans viewed them as lessons of history to never repeat again. But the harsh reality is that many Americans uphold these monuments as facts and have pride in what they stand for all while denying Black Americans of their history. These "things" should not be praised, those "men" should not be heroes. And you know as well as everyone else that the reason these things are left standing is for supremacists to keep their grip on dominating those that have always been oppressed. To those ppl these things are not just artifacts, they are not representations of the past, it is who they are. They relive the events, they live in the mind of the "men of their time" --- And THAT is the present. That is the problem. That is why they cannot understand the pain behind it all. Where we see pain, they see pride.
@@kandicebrantley5981 Black people sold black people to white people in Africa. Why doesn't this narrative start from the beginning? Perhaps reparations should begin in Africa? That being said, I like what Ruth bader Ginsburg said. All we need from our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.
@Ray Joe Money.. are you fine with how the monuments describe these men as heroes? That’s not history. They were defending a wrong way of life. Just bc they thought they were in the right doesn’t mean we should honor that as such. They were heroic in the same way that 9/11 terrorists were heroic
@@skylarsky3173 Yes there is a whole lot of division in all lives matter. your stance only black lives matter is very inclusive. 👍👍👍.. My People are indigenes to this continent and were slaughtered. But I get it black lives matter.
The south seems to be holding onto the past and holding our nation back from progress. I wish the North East would succeed and create are own nation. Were always getting held back by red states and financially supporting them.
We can add some of the Mid-West and the Western states. If Blue states were their own country we'd be so much better off. The south would never survive without the north.
They are called the United States not the blue states that we like of American considering what you said it’s no wonder why people in the south hang on to these monuments
@@lokeyz83 Wouldn't it be nice to debate the ACA vs a Universal Healthcare system, as opposed to Healthcare for all, vs healthcare for those who can pay. Wouldn't it be nice to have great infrastructure because we can pay for it, as opposed to crying we can't afford it. Wouldn't it be nice to actually PROGRESS, rather than be stuck by fear. Could also join up with some Canadian provinces.
The argument of monuments,"it's to remind us of our history", is why museums exist. What if a group proposes having "a noose hang from a tree" as a memorial in the town square as a remembrance of their history? Would that be acceptable? People unfortunately, due to some human fault, wish for the "good old days". If you hear all the atrocities, lynchings,stabbings, your gut feeling is "how, why were those actions allowed?" When victims testify in court, they relive the incident. When you hear the stories if the past, don't you also emotionally feel the dread of people like yourself being killed?
I'm not black and I cried few times last days, as I did know. I can't imagine, if I do pain so, how your community do pain now (and always did). I don't understand how some people can't understand this or don't want to understand it, but I am not sad for them because I know God will never open his gates to these kind of people. I wish racism never took place in human history.
Yes put up and fight for your right to put up any monument to slavery. Sarah Basset Knipe Riley was the mother of the wife of Peter Moller, my American ancestor, father of my great grand dad, an American sailor shipwreck by the Emily 1835 +_ on Tristan D' Cunha. He married Fanny Riley daughter of Sarah Bassett, a St Helena slave. My history is recent and for 40 years of human rights campaigns has left me with some kind of perceptions/understanding. It does not matter where we are from, injustice is injustice and yes reality is that its a lot older than your situation. a lot older and a lot newer. Did you do anything about apartheid? Why are you centred on the confederates. Africans have a much wider history. Obliterating confederate monuments will only loose the reason of our pain. I am an African descendent of a slave and there is so much human rights injustice in this world, you guys need to get on with doing constructive things. Fight for the right of the forgotten slave, put up a monument and leave behind your need to obliterate memory
The Confederacy attacked the United States at Fort Sumter. They were every bit the enemy of the government as is Al Qaida. Having monuments to the Confederacy makes as much sense as building monuments to those enemies who attacked the Trade Towers. To this day the country honors the Pilgrims yet the grandchildren of those leaders at the first thanksgiving rounded up a local Indian tribe that was peaceful and had converted to Christianity and sold them to slavers going to the Caribbean. I may have ancestors who ended up in Haiti. When I was a child I wore a Pilgrim hat in school celebrations. There is such a deep culture of racism in this country and folks who have no idea about what they do not even know about the minority folks here, their lives and their history as being part of the American culture. This country has been run by racist white men, or those blind to racism, who shape the narrative for way too long. When the white woman compares the auction block to the death camps of the Nazis is to ignore that the Jews want those camps intact and they direct the narrative for educational purposes and they are treated as museums. black folks have not been consulted about the auction block nor given the job of directing the narrative, such as would happen if the block was relocated into a museum on slavery.
Shabuti R18 the fort was a US fort, they did not “invade” areas that belonged to the United States. the confederacy was a group of succesionists who took over national property and were responsible for causing the death of 600,000 young soldiers. Honoring the leaders of that insurrection, responsible for so much death and destruction throughout the country, is no different than honoring Osama Bin Laden.
@@farmwife7944 Lincoln was the one who started the war, not the south. The south and north split legally. Lincoln did not want to lose the economy of the south amung other things. The south had no intentions of initiating war with the north. They didnt need the north.
Shabuti R18 there was no “legal” agreement to split the country. The north had industry, the south did not which is why they lost, because point of fact they did need the north. Did you go to school, ever? did you take an American history class at the high school level because you are woefully ignorant in US history? so, post all the replies you want, you cannot change reality or truth. Spinning your own version of history does not make any of it fact but it does illustrate your ignorance.
Humans in general are greedy and selfish beings. They always want more of everything. They want more knowledge, attention, money, freedom, things, friends, family and happiness.
To my brothers and sisters African Americans we from mother Africa apologize for the sins of our ancestors from Africa . They were brainwashed by the slaves dealers. Africa will always be there for all African Americans in USA Canada and the South America. Mother Africa stands for your unity.
b p he is just saying if the America’s prove to be cruel to the population of African descent, they can come to Africa. However it is unlikely as the USA and Canada offer a much better social security and economic opportunity to the African population. The pain of the past and those who refuse to cut ties with it are the ones that hold the US back from true equality.
Did anybody catch when he said "last name cotton ..c-o-t-t-o-n just like you pick" ? Or was it just me ? That really bothered me because what was the point of saying that? Idk if I'm overthinking it correct me if I'm wrong
If anything, they should tear down the Georgia Guidestones, which state in 100 something different languages, a goal of reducing the world's population to 500,000; that means 7 billion people gotta go. Bet you've never even heard of them have you, little lamb (being lead to the slaughter).
Exodus of Earth wow not even close to accurate. It’s 8 languages and 500 million ppl. The 10 recommendations were made to keep people and the planet healthy, as well as guide us into an age of reason. We had the freedom to listen or ignore. You can’t tear it down because it’s private property and most of it is really good advice. Here are the 10 recommendations: 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite. 10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
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If history is so important, why don't we tell how the Native American's were slaughtered and this land was taken.
Dale Wilson Louder for the people in the back so they can clearly hear.
We should. While I am Caucasian, my Great Grandfather was 100% Arapaho Native American. What our government did and continues to do to the Native Americans is a disgrace. I have seen the poor living conditions in Wyoming. It is very sad.
Dale Wilson Native Americans is doing a good job of that themselves. Visit the reservations, and the casinos do not count. And witness their tribal ceremonies.
This video is about monuments and artifacts depicting whites folks history in the USA, in particularly white confederate history..the native Americans need to do their own videos to enlighten the American people...let the statues, monuments and artifacts remain where they are!
@@Videostoredontgo I have no native american heritage in my background at all but I still feel very grieved about how the native Americans were treated. God bless them.
Remember: No child is born a racist. They are trained to become racists. Small children are actually "colourblind". They see a friend and play with them. Stop corrupting the children!
This is why the southern leadership should have faced trials of crimes against humanity instead of being exonerated on monuments and its why the subjects of southern leadership, its citizens should have been under occupation and denied representation in the U.S. government without undergoing a well thought out decades long processing. They declared war and they were rapidly normalized and permitted to retain pride in their insurrection.
@@wjksea wrong
White people stopped raisin they kids to be racist for the most part. But the blk community still teaches are kids to hate white people and to be victims and that's why we cant better ourselves
Jason Griffin White people built monument to hate. Some of them do teach their children to hate its called Southern Heritage.
Amen, my mom never, never had no prejudice we were never taught to hate any color & our family has everything in it well not an Asian in it that I know of! Prejudice is so learned in the home! And I was born in 1961! And had to me The Best Mom In The World!
Why not remove the block and put it in a museum. People are not learning from it if they are mocking it. I remember once going to a boutique consignment shop out on a beach and they were selling, literally selling a set of slave chains . I mean original , authentic, from an actual slave ship and engraved on it was the word child. I was sick to my stomach. I can only imagine having to walk past this block every day and see people make a mockery of it.
I don't think it should be hidden any more than concentration camps in Germany are but it must not be a place of mockery. The south should have been occupied for decades after their leadership was tried for crimes against humanity. They should have been denied representation for as long of a time. They should have been rebuilt under the same strict directives Germany was.
They did put the auction block in a Museum.
Why not destroy it altogether ?
I think rewriting the plaque would also better if they keep it there. D.C. has monuments depicting different wars and the Holocaust Museum has horrific photos but it's all in the wording and how you teach someone about the past. If it appears to be celebrating the tragedy then the message is lost.
@@kasaundrataylor997 sis I was thinking the same had my Spidey Sense tingling like who TF what a reminder of generational slavery that occurred in the span of 800 year's til today.... Nobody needed to keep it once the slave trade stopped point blank period it's bad enough our ancestors had to see it there wit tht same reminder tht they themselves or someone they knew had been sold there just secs mins hours ago from that 1 spot families torn apart so I'ma need ppl taking about keeping it ANYWHERE TO STFU lol it's distasteful disrespectful an has no place in our society we can see auction blocks online OUR PEOPLE DON'T NEED EXTRA WHEN WE ALREADY BLACK IN THE WORLD
When he said “just like you pick” it made me sick to my stomach
I felt the same way
He only said it like that because he was addressing it at the two brothers interviewing him.
Yea, now why he had to make that a part of the sentence!!!! 🤐 The IGNORANCE IN HIS THINKING!!! 😁
Same smfh
I would have leaned right over and knocked him right of his chair..he knew they knew for gods sake he spelt it out and then said “just like you pick”..old swine
OMG he said it with a straight face. "Well they are here". Means they should be thankful for surviving all the lynching and stuff. Crazy world.
@7 Points Entertainment Yep. He was a one eyed A-hole who has probably never left his county. Did I hear him say it's the best country on earth. Us Aussies and Kiwis will just stay here thanks, with our free universal health care etc etc.
That was Cold Blooded but That's what I expected from Him.✊🏿💯
Yeah I'm sure africa is an absolute utopia were everyone is happy and well fed huh?
And the other guy, " cotton like the kind you pick"
Wow shocking
“Dont ever forget” ? Uhm... black people dont need confederate monuments to remember. We have never forgotten.
True but let them go down, we don't want to see them either
@sup dead
That's a bold face lie! You should search for videos about what happened in Natchez, Mississippi!
The devil's punchbowl.
@Marjorie Tillman Lincoln didn't start the civil war.
Ha! Another black youth that needs to educate themselves before they speak. Apparently, black people have forgotten that during the civil war it was the Republicans that abolished slavery and the Democrats that were pro slavery until the early 1900's. And fun fact... most African slaves brought to North America were sold by other Africans to white people. So why do black people support a country (Africa) and party (Democrats) that enslaved your ancestors? Truthfully you should hate Africa and Democrats because any imagery, monuments, etc. is just a hurtful reminder of how they oppressed and enslaved your ancestors. I put more info below so you won't forget YOUR history!🙄
The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade involved the transportation by slave traders of enslaved African people, mainly to the Americas. The slave trade regularly used the triangular trade route and its Middle Passage, and existed from the 16th to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those who were enslaved and transported in the transatlantic slave trade were people from Central and West Africa, who had been sold by other West Africans to Western European slave traders (with a small number being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids), who brought them to the Americas.
The Democratic Party is the oldest voter-based political party in the world and the oldest existing political party in the United States, tracing its heritage back to the anti-Federalists and the Jeffersonian Democratic-Republican Party of the 1790s. Known as the party of the "common man", the early Democratic Party stood for individual rights, state sovereignty, and opposed banks and the abolition of slavery.
And it's crazy because the whole reason why many of these monuments were put up was so they could warp history or forget it.
They'll gloss over any mentions of slavery and instead sing the praises and wave the flag of the confederacy - romanticizing it as if that side won the war smh
"If my son asked me about Robert E. Lee, I don't say, "ah, I could've told you last week but they took down the statue. Now, I have no way of getting that information." There are no statues of Hilter in Germany." Jim Jefferies 2017
So where are the historical monuments of slaves and lynching victims hung and tortured from trees....we don't want to forget that, do we?
We shouldnt because it's a reminder not to let the past repeat itself, its literally the point of history
There is one in Montgomery Alabama, call the memorial for peace and justice. My company built it. It features huge stone blocks hanging from metal rods, at varying heights, and each stone represents a person that was lynched during the Jim crow era in the south. Its very powerful to see it in person, and read each stone. Like I said, we fabricated all the steel for it. But it wasn't until I went down for the grand opening and walked through it, that I realized what it was all about. It moved me to tears.... I highly recommend paying it a visit. It is awesome
Vanessa, if you can, I really think you should go check it out. If you are not touched by it, you just ain't human...
Great point if they can have their memorabilia From Slavery then why can't we build statues to everything that happened i.e., dead bodies hanging from trees, people being burned on bonfires, young white children looking up and grimacing at black men being hung from trees, black babies being fed two alligators as bait, human petting zoos. Do I need to continue? oh they wouldn't have that so they're white children can be horrified at what they did to another human being. Let's leave there statues up and right Along Side their statues let's put statues of what I just mentioned and see how white ppl like that.
www.history.com/news/lynching-museum-alabama-national-memorial-for-peace-and-justice
Just put these monuments in to a museum and call it museum of shamefull American history, Germany made pretty much the same with the kzs and it's a good thing, keep the historic pieces but make the interaction with them a learning and understanding experience for future generations. It just standing there doesn't do a thing for a better future
"What benefit did they get from slavery?"
"They're here."
In a nutshell, this is the egotistical attitude that some Americans have that makes my skin crawl.
Lol you think if they’d stayed in Africa they’d of had the pampered lives they enjoy here?
@@user-od4zo1ow6d do u think if u stayed in Europe you'd have the pampered life u have here now?? Lmao u don't know wtf black people would have. Btw come to where im from and show me the pampered life us blacks have....
@@Cash60Loc People like T need to prove that their identity has value through their 'revolutionary' speech. Responding gives them value. This person is literally a name with no content or subscribers. Don't waste words or time on this person.
Oct 10 2020 is the planned alien invasion hope ur ready
@@user-od4zo1ow6d pampered tf are you talking about. We never been pampered only... hated and killed.
All the historic value, move it to a museum so people can see it if they choose. Not leave it in public as a scar and reminder of a suffering people. Germany do not leave Nazi memorabilia in the public as "history". They move it to a designated place. For all those that want it left in plain sight for everyone to see, there is a degree of- "That's right. And you better watch out cause we can do it again. Remember what we did to you. You Mahn Boyee".
So on point with you commentary👍🏾
Excellent point. Very fair and seasoned with emotional logic.
Yi Sang Yang you can tour concentration camps in Germany
But they want us to remember and keep our scars open passed down to generation after generation...😥 it has worked
Very wise comment
15:56 - Gordon Cotton emphasis on cotton - just as you pick he says - his tone, implication and defiant look sums up the attitude that is why there has been no real change and we are still living in bad history
My thoughts in that same moment
Yr DIRTY secrets DOGS VIPER'S RAPESl.
Needs a broken jaw
Yes,he wishes he had slaves now.
@sara vee
NO REAL CHANGE?
You re kidding, right? Don't get me wrong......we've got some ways to go.....but, nobody I know is racist. And, I am not an anomaly. This is evident in the friends my kids have around them, who are every shade and ethnicity under the sun. I'd say there's been CHANGE. Improvement's always needed, tho. We can start by educating our youth with TRUE history.....and removing the offensive monuments, whose sole purpose, was to honor white supremacy.
Makes me think of a quote I heard a woman say today " White people are lucky that black people want equality and not Revenge."
And?
@@johnstamos4186 if u still asking then move along
bigscale1 Yr Caucasian how can you speak on the perspective of a colored person?
@@kinglouie7861 they cant. They only want to make us angry.
@B B lol just a long way of saying all lives matter right . Please move along, most of us get what that comment meant .NJNP
Reporter: “what benefit do African Americans get for being here?”
White Man: “They’re here.”
I’m embarrassed to be here in 2020.
@ Dante, it's quite common for them to give an ignorant answer since they do not know what to say. Personaly, I received the same when I raised an alarm after a white Female tried withought success to murder me.
They are here 😂! Who took them here ? For what they here ? How there we’re brought here?
Did they ask to and here ?
If you answer honestly this questionsI will definitely see how ignorant you are !
But no matter what black live matter .
If you love me I do if don’t I do love because all the same as a human being ❤️ love is everything!
Jamie Horn .you’re right they hide behind the scene while the blacks and the whites fight . But they’re the real enemy because they’re the ones pulling the strings most people don’t see it
Jamie Horn 💙🦋🌳 What? OK - you have DNA proof Martha Washington, George w., Jefferson - and the others.. Jefferson Davis ... etc were Jewish? DNA proof?
Joanie84 H ♥️Who is pulling your strings♥️
This is gross that in 2020 we are still having this conversation. Imagine if Germans were arguing to keep hitler’s statues...
There is no equivalency between Hitler and Robert E Lee. The confederates supported slavery in a time when it had been the norm for all of human history up until that point. Try and put yourself in the shoes of someone from that time and place. With that in mind the confederates fort for their people just like everybody else has in every war in human history and they deserve to be honored by their descendants.
Hitler sent weapons,food aide,technical support to Africa read about Arab league Hitler had Africans in his army with more rights compared to segregated US millitary
@@HecClaytos4956 Nazi's supported anti-semitism "in a time when it had been the norm for all of human history until that point". Remember even the US denied passage of a ship of Jewish refugees escaping Hitler's advance through Europe.
Ironically, Nazi's ideologies in America is supported as free speech under the first amendment yet a more liberal and progressive Germany has laws against it.
So what's the false equivalency between statues venerating Confederacy and Nazism?
A Truth, Justice and Reconciliation was never had in America. Apartheid South Africa went through this, so did Germany after 1945. In the 1960's "second generation guilt" swept over Germany as grandchildren of the SS, Nazi party members and others asked why their parents and grandparents didn't stand against Nazism. That generation was at the forefront of the Anti-Nazism laws in Germany. In America after the Civil War, instead of "second generation guilt" along with truth, justice and reconciliation, organisations like "Daughters of the Confederacy" embarked on historical revisionism.
@@Belioyt anti semitism was normal but not to the extent of genocide which is why the Nazis are considered so evil. Also there's nothing liberal about restricting free speach. Germany's anti nazi laws are just a continuation of that countries authoritarian tradition. South Africa had their truth and justice commision because the black majority was now in charge so it's a different situation. The Germans had that wave of guilt because what they had done was considered abhorrent even by the times standards. The south was a different situation. You can't expect late 19th century southerners to feel guilty about slavery when it was still legal in most of the non western world.
@@HecClaytos4956 is this "american exceptionalism"? Other nations can admit they were wrong and take steps to repair their past for the future but not America?
That auction block should be in a museum not on the street.
It is now.
I agree , a museum is a more appropriate place for something like that. Leaving it in the street is just crass , unquthe and common. It's a piece of history
and it brings up negative feelings on both sides , you cant leave something like that in the steeet.
@@Sammy-mp9xn that's good , thx for the update leah.
In New Orleans they just put up a historic marker where there used to be a slave auction place! Just the opposite! So the public would know what happened there...?? So Fredericksburg is hiding this? While New Orleans wants this history known.
@@duantorruellas716 What is more, "Appropriate" than where this horror actually happened. The blacks should see this as a lesson or reminder to the whites of what they did to their ancestors! I don't get it?
”They we’re thousands that got killed but millions was victimize” indeed
Millions were killed. Dont forget that!
@Tyrone Notwatson what the F are talking about?
Frederic Belinga your right..
It’s sickening when he said the benefits that blacks get from slavery is “being here in America”...
Yes it is very sickening because America is a genocidal apartheid country. How have the Europeans benefitted by being in control of such a system? Creating wealth? Is wealth creation the purpose of life? Where is that wealth today to pay off national debt? Or the few wealthy families is the reason why all should be happy.
Ya. 2016-2018 "Democratic Republic" of Congo, Nigeria, New Guinea, Somalia, Libya- STILL TRYING TO ESCAPE & come to North America. BEEN GOING Through Brazil... Must be pretty bad there!!!!!!
DontBlameTheDog yea but you can only sell what people are willing to buy ...and people shouldn’t be willing to buy other people
@DontBlameTheDog don't forget the horrible treatment, despite our "civility" for generations, or the disposal of slaves as if they were breeding livestock. Can't forget the sexual abuses. Or the child murders. I guess it's okay because SOME of the slaved population were a result of tribal warfare - PSA there had to have already been a market and economy for colored slaves -- for demand to have existed Europeans would have already had to have trafficked slaves successfully. So all-together, this isn't a good argument because it ignores all other factors of the trade environment.
That saying is what got 2 me the most.....
Wish they could have teach the real history in school I feel like I got cheated on my education
Oct 10 2020 is the planned alien invasion. Hope ur ready
Ryan 88 target practice lol
Don't worry about the things that were done to us you will read it in the Bible the Bible tells you of all the things that you will have to endure until the creator judge that nation's read Deuteronomy chapter thirty read it and you will see who the creator sent on ships and carried away unto a strange land and be carried away on ships with lron on the legs and arms and neck you were writing of as the people that would do that to the most high God children and if you pay attention to the book you. Will know who the most high God children and how long you would sojoin in that land for four hundred yrs and after then he will come and deliver his people so you know all ready where he's coming to judge the people that mistreated his people and the profits has said that l don't know why they think that God will not judge him they are in the center of the judge ment there is no way they will get away and killing people and taking the natives land and you have the nerve to say you love the creator well the creator don't listen to you it's just not your time yet and when it's time to judge you all and you will know why he's judging you look around and see what is happening to this nation it's falling and will not be able to get up and this is the creator work and it is time to judge no one can stop it it were all ready written and so will it be and no one can stop this fall it is meant to be all things has a beginning an end the universe is taking America down just as it were written and there is nothing no one can do to save it America have had her time under the sun now is the time of her trouble and who will speak good of her you will know your sins and soon you will be judged according to your deeds and the most high God will not play with anyone he's not going to be weak and as the books say just as thy has done so shall it be done unto you l always knew something was wrong l didn't have a clue until l understood the book and that it was talking about the Hebrew and l started to reading everything that l could get my hands on the wheel that l have heard people talking about ezeckiel talked about and the people signed world be an eagle so much were written and about the dry bones in the valley because people had denied the creator children and some one elese we're walking around with their clothes on their history their names everything that belongs to the creator children. A false people were walking around with the Creator's children clothes and put them on themselves but the power knows where his children are and has always known and they will know him when he comes and he's not coming to bless them but to slay them all he don't want to. Hear nothing because he saw it all and this world will be as it were in the beginning no more killing no more stealing the formal things will pass away
@@peggyoneal3779 i wasss gona read your comment until i pushed view more lmao.....yeah Sure...🤣
Yellow Tape it’s up to you go farther than what you were told...educate yourself ...beyond what your teachers told you...
My stomach hurts when I see all the names of people killed😭. And where we are today in America.
Don't you feel how this is not helping us grow but keep us stuck in the past and to repeat it. The mind is what's controls everything here.
Jeffrey Neal Maybe for you, everything is all hunky dory, sugar and rainbows when we “just don’t talk about it” but not talking about it doesn’t change the fact that we still face discrimination today.
If we lived in a hypothetical world where nobody speaks about race, you know what will happen? People will just continue to deal with discrimination and just not talk about it.
Essentially what you’re saying is “will you all just shut up and stop talking about it, you’re making me feel uncomfortable/guilty/attacked”
SIS,!! YOU SHOULD NEVER!! EVER!! WASTE!! PRECIOUS!! TIME TALKING TO A PALE FACE!! FOOL!! ABOUT BLACKS PAIN & SUFFERING!!
Those lynchings in the 60's. Make me want to puke.
Hey!!Ms is changing their flag..plus no black people / shotby cops have been shot
there recently? That states history is horrid.. plus the shootings were in a morthern State and ky a ( neutral state) not the old south.So how did the northern boys learb racism.. I live in ky.mit is taught.. But I wouldnt think in Minneapolis racisim is so bad?? Idk
I know it made me sob 😭
Then they tell us to forget and move on.
H7t they don't tell the jews
@@MsDisneylandlover 👏👍They can't , only black people must move on.
@Peter Torbay
You will have to suffer for what your forefathers did just as we are suffering now for what ours did...
Zechariah 11:5
“Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.”
Who does this happen to on the regular you have some nerve to say just get over it you may want us to get over it but the LORD will never forget what you have done to his people
Ecclesiastes 3:15
That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
All of the curses we had to suffer in Deuteronomy 28th chapter shall be put upon all you heathens not of the nation of Israel
Isaiah 51:21
Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine:
22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:
23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.
This is a prophecy that hasn't came to pass yet! But rest a sure it's coming!
@Peter Torbay Tell the jews to move
Get used to it. The people you're all standing on listen to it all of the time.
That seems extremely offensive to any African American that is expected to walk by these monuments.
History should never be erased, why not just moved them to museums?
Photos and maybe destroy. They don't keep certain things.
wait until CCP china, conquer your land , and dismantle all statue around your place, like what they did in thier own history.. they force old china into cummunism..
Incredible!
because people are to entitled and think they should get their way
@@elmsanti574 dude grow up and read a book
There is a difference between a plaque that conmemorates an event and one that honors the event.
No one honors the event. They honor the hundreds of thousands of dead soldiers.
@@Johan-st4rv that fought on a wrong side
adriana lainez commemorate is a synonym for honor
@@lisamays4914 Not if it states that something just happened. A plaque can say an event in history happened here and not bestow honor and praise on the event itself. Aushwitz doesn't bestow honor on the Nazis but it reminds US that something terrible happened there. I understand what you mean but a marker is different from honoring with naming a street or a city after someone that doesn't deserve it.
This is about never forgetting by viewing the most physical reality of where and how a crime against humanity occurred.
The city council that claimed keeping the auction block was like Germany keeping concentration camps needs to be challenged to do the other things Germany did like ; ban the Nazi flag, tell the full story at those sites, teach the full story in their schools, REPARATIONS, no honoring of Nazi participants etc..
@Benito Mussolini Didn't Billy boy Clinton give an apology. No matter. The Clintons love money more than anything else.
One item not on my list of things Germany did after the war, prosecute major leaders and bad actors.
I mean still it would be cool to see back in history to what it was like...I think it woulda been a great idea for concentration camps to have been turned into museums and the auction block to stay to tell the next generation the story
I am full german that lives in America and even I get told I'm racist because I am white in color do not be fooled. My ancestors died when they hid some Blacks and Jews in the basement on the home.What I see is that the Blacks are the ones calling Racist in the open streets when they don't get there own ways.
It matters not about history or the things you have destroyed. What matters is what are you doing about it that will help?
@2B REAL and what seems funny, in a real disturbing way, to me is the fact that all of this happened because the US intervened. The US freed germany of the nazis and told them to go apologize, to teach the full story etc. which I am extremely thankful for btw, because I feel like I can live in a peaceful germany today....but why is it so so hard for them to see that they act the complete opposite of what they taught other countrys?
I find it interesting that people that want to preserve this history are also saying to black people "get past it". Why not build a museum and put these monuments there?
It's nice to travel and learn history see monuments right where it took place. It would be nice if people can just stop vandalism .
Because they're also there to commemorate confederate veterans who deserve to be commemorated. They fought very bravely for what they thought was right.
@@HecClaytos4956 so did hitler. whats your point? should germans erect a statue to commemorate him too?
@@tctopcat1981 No, but they should give some respect to the rank and file German soldiers who fought in that war, who defended their country against Stalin. Which is what most of these confederate monuments do. They're mostly paying homage to the confederate soldiers generally for fighting for their communities regardless of the politics of the war. Even if politically they were on the wrong side of history they still deserve to be honored.
@@HecClaytos4956 are you suggesting Germans erect statues of Nazi generals - "Even if politically they were on the wrong side of history"? Because the Germans who lost to Stalin while trying to invade the soviet union were Nazis. Call them what they are, and come out and say exactly what you are saying. "German soldiers who fought in that war," should read "Nazi German soldiers who fought in that war," because it was Nazi Germany that dealt with Stalin during WWII.
But guess what? None of those Nazi Generals have statues erected in Germany. Do you understand why?
Tulsa massacre happened literally The Weekend after George Floyd’s death.
Solstice awakening, time to receive, as it pertains to metaphysics. However, the opposite being the Dialectical is an imparetive for effective positioning. #changeisinevitable.
And they took it out of history books..
jason anderson that’s why it’s extremely important to re learn, and educate our tomorrow people.
annunakee - fictional for story line purpose of the show, but most definitely the massacre happened and plenty of articles describing in detail what, when and where.
Agreed
"We're here"
But we didn't ask to be here. We was forced here. We didn't have a say in being "HERE".
Commander Rockwell XII to where? Lol
@Commander Rockwell XII Why don't you go away?
If every African American woman would choose (pro-choice) in about a hundred yrs that would solve racism, oppression & killing by white cops, (true-fact) please vote Democrat & demand Planned Parenthood set up clinics in every African American neighborhood
Get a job n move out of usa. Find ur path if u hate usa.
Your generation was weak n they took advantage of that. That I'm sorry for bc everyone wants peace. What about natives Americans as I am. History lies. No one was weak the honor is peace but they don't get it back then.
16:08 Gordon Cotton did anybody else catch how he said “just like you pick “
I know!! My jaw just dropped and my heart wrenched !! How in the world... 😠😠😠
Broken jaw
He is referring to that its spelled cotton just like you pick
And he didn’t mean that at all in the way you all WANT to take it. You see racism where you want to!
Such a crazy situation I was thinking. Like ok you're name happens to be spelled that way. I think he could of just left that part out.
You don't see the Germans celebrating the SS and Hitler. Yet we have not forgot that history.
Aaron Friedman Meh, they’ll be coming down eventually.
History-doesn't mean it was right. Slavery was common globally even in Africa. 1968, my family moved to Atlanta from Detroit as a kid then (for my dad's job) I saw thru any racism in south vs. north. A friend's mom (then) in GA said she'd "never live in north with the yankees". Lingering grudges & racism but times have really changed, believe it or not.
@Jelly Belly then mussem will be gutted.. reminded no more..
Yes some Germans still celebrate the SS !
@Aaron Friedman slaves didn't build the pyramids
Put it in a museum so no one has to look at it every day when they don’t want to but it stays in a museum to remind people of America’s dark past.
What about America's dark present?
I think we should keep them for history
@Tewari Crescent KINGSTON13 dedicated museums
Loving this idea. Because I would not want to see it.
I think a museum is a good idea.....but where it is hits really hard as to what happened to enslaved Africans. Its like a glimpse into history. "This very area was an auction for slaves." That's the raw truth in front of us
As an Italian and growing up with an anti-fascist ethic, this documentary is very informative. Please keep removing all statues with the racist individuals (as they did in Philly with Rizzo). This is the time for a change, please do not let it slip away. With solidarity and support from an Italian and anti-fascist. Black Lives Matter.
Much love
@Jamie Horn plz tell me what ethnicity is a j3w makes no god dam sense !!!!
Don't worry will be coming to Italy and making sure we remove everything we see standing... Including your Sinigods of Satan... Where your Popes get a kick off of touching little boys ....
@Jamie Horn plz tell me how a religion is a people.
@@KDH-br6hy Being jewish or a jew is a religion, not an ethnicity. It doesn't define where (country) you come from but what religion you believe in. There are russian jews, ethiopian jews, isreali jews, german jews, etc...Hope that helps clarify.
They got us so focused on the history of slavery, we don’t even realize that 99% of us are slaves today.
AMEN!!!!!
Go back a couple of thousand or so years the Romans used Germans as slaves.
@@AntonioGarcia-xw1ei Yep...exactly all empires through out history had slaves. It's what was considered normal at the time. What the United States did at that time as wrong as it was, was considered normal. Which is why all statues and monuments should be left alone as a reminder of the wrong doings of a time long ago. Without history man can not learn not to repeat those mistakes.
JoeC's_RC ironically confederate monuments tend to have been built as part of a movement to propagate the ‘lost cause’ myth (and intimidate black people) which is an intentional distortion of history which does nothing to remind people of the atrocity that is chattel slavery or the fact that the south fought to keep the institution of slavery alive.
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"haven't we gotten past it?" Then why do you insist on keeping these statues aren't they just old news?
yarhonda j Because it isn’t old news
@Brett Pechatsko they are going to learn that from a statute that glorifies them. If we wanted to teach it would need to be put in context. Is a terrible human being gets a status that says "In honor of. .." doesn't that make them seem like a great person. I dont see what point you are trying to make. Most European- Americans/caucasians just like to argue about certain things but not upholding others.
They got pass it becuz they weren’t effected, so of course it’s possible for this to be a thing of the past. For the ppl that have family that actually died from or had to barely live through that... How u evn have audacity to suggest we get over it without acknowledging or exposing what low key STILL exist
Right, because no slave owner EVER did anything good or virtuous or noble in their lives. Good and bad do not negate each other. They live along side each other inside the human soul.
Because its about history. You just want everyone to forget history. Look slavery is wrong but its true when its said that everyone in America has benifits. You're free to better yourself. Like these 2 black gents, they talk, look, and act professional and well educated. Some may even say they are white washed. But no, they chose something better regardless of history. And the same goes for everyone in the US regardless of color or race. You need to choose to be better
Those who forget or deny the past, are inclined to repeat it.
It shouldn't be shoved in their face when it causes them pain.
That doesnt make any sense...We have history on books literature and digital media....no need to celebrate a stupid flag and worthless statues
@Decadent _Descent Please try to make Sense....History is everywhere...you can read it online google wikipedia youtube documentaries schools Museums and classrooms....Stupid hateful images flags statues and paraphanelia in public spaces are useless
@Decadent _Descent Dude....You are sadly not making sense...History needs to be shoved down peoples throats???? Listen glad my city doesnt have them stupid statues or flag anywhere but i know the history of America...i know the history of The greek Egyptians Mesopotamia without travelling there...The ugly flags and stautes are an insult to African Americans and American Natives....Not sure but doesn't seem you are very well educated which is the problem Brother
@Decadent _Descent Do you need Nazi Flags too to remind you Nationalism is a danger in a modern globalized society?
When I (a white immigrant) moved to New Orleans and saw a statue of Roger E. Lee and asked who he was, a friend (black) explained to me who he was. I asked why would they put up a statue of a looser and keep it there? That friend just laughed and shrug shoulders. I never got an answer. I didn’t know that the animosity between the north and the south still existed. But these confederate statues always looked very odd to me but it got me interested regarding in reading American History, especially racial relation, because there was nothing I understood about it. And what a journey I’ve gotten on since that spring day in 1997. What I really don’t understand is the incredible constrain and discipline the black community has. Sadly I have sometimes witness them misdirecting this tension against each other. That is what happen with any abused group. In a way, I am glad they are taking it outwards, because it needs to be done. It saddens me that it has to be done, but I see no other way for the black community in order to get an equal footing in this country. Being an outsider, to me it’s absurd that they are forced to do this.
It was a tactic from the very beginning to make sure black people didnt come together and rise against white supremacy.
-Dont put people who can speak to each other close -Keep some with special privileges -Create self hatred and keep them docile with jesus.
Its systemic, structural, institutionalized and
we built this country.
We dont want to ruin it.
sup dead and that’s the problem
sup dead lmao
“Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it.”
“Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it.” At least get the words of Santayana right.
@@Aldinonexilus exactly lol....also I believe the only way we can move forward from our past is by accepting it's not our past and it still affects our present
Casie_gg so does that include the concentration camps in Europe and the Pyramids in Egypt?
@@casie_gg7771 literally in this video u here a man say ....I saw them stage a moch auction....so yes it's being used to taunt black people it shud be removed
Does the same go for those who never even really knew it to forget it to start with?
Why don’t they just have all these monuments in a museum?
Right. But then how could they inflict pain in the black community? Smfh
Oh, are museums off limits for protesters, rioters and looters?
Why would a museum want edifices created as part of a propaganda campaign by pro-Confederacy groups years, decades, and 100+ years after losing a war? Hundreds of these statues are in states that didn't even exist during the Civil War. These are not artifacts worthy of precious museum space.
Ollie Ollie Many museums probably wouldn’t want them. It would only make their facilities targets and points of focus for rage the next time something bad happens.
I personally don’t care if the statues of slave-owning democrats from long ago stay up or are taken down and destroyed. It won’t change history. Maybe it would improve things in the future. That would be my hope.
@@longranger5226 why keep them?
They kept a slave block where they used to auction off slaves, thats f...ing disgusting
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@@lebredamcelroy832 You dont speak English very well do you?
its called history i say keep it
@@lebredamcelroy832 Wtf are you trying to say?
Lebreda McElroy gtfo with that which craft 🤣
Artifacts belong in a museum, for those who care to relive the past.
Historical events give lessons & perspective! Should not be forgotten. Most dont relive past & many are dead.
I think something like the auction block remaining in its original location would have a greater impact, if the intention is to educate. Standing at the very spot blacks were sold as slaves is jarring.
But that's just my opinion as a white Canadian man who would only see it once as a tourist. If blacks say it needs to go, then it needs to go. I can also see the need to remove it if served as some kind of shrine to white supremacists.
@cb350f clown
Great point!
@cb350f If you have identifiable ancestors dating back 2000 years, you must be the product of massive generational incest.
D. N. A. has memory
Black people will always feel the pain of their Ancestors
Yo,That shyt deep.
#facts. I'm from a different country also mix with blk and an I can feel it.
@@filipinotagalog9371 what you feel is the short little wires in your head getting crossed up my friend. You only made that comment to feel somehow connected to the conversation, and that's just sad....
Thats like me saying that I feel what my ancestors went through when they were put on a forced march to the west, ran off of their land so the English and Spanish could have it. Its nonsense... I don't feel a thing. And if anyone deserves reparations, its people like me I guess. My land and way of life was robbed from me. Nevermind the fact that it happened over 200 years ago... I want money!!!!
@@coldbeer2011 you don't feel the pain but, you want money...you sound dumb Like I said you not blk. I can tell you a rasist POS.
Greetings from Jamaica, where your brothers and sisters are standing with you in solidarity for the pride and dignity of the African peoples, not on an auction block but on our own two feet as an independent BLACK led nation. Marcus Garvey said....''Up you mighty race, you can accomplish what you will "'
It just hit me. The argument is always something like this- “Think of that time” or “Jefferson Davis was a man of his time”. What is African Americans started clubbing you over the head saying- “This is our time”. Would that be okay?
It hit you while smoking pot... The whole argument, with it was a different time, is that we today are different peoples, with different values and a bit more civilized. You can't judge the past by today's morals.
Jefferson new the truth of the African Moor and the negotiation made with the Dirty Moors to expand the Moorish Empire
@Sheka I'm French and i just learnt the story about The Moores in Europe, they erased our history ! The Black nobility of Europe was black people... The Britons, not the britISHS were black people too, the DANish are probably from the tribe of Dan and they mock them with the black face dressed as ROYALTIES because they erased us over there !
Be carefull with all the 'ISHS, most of them are just remplacement of the originals.
Maures=Bantus=Israelites the real jews from AFRICA
@@casie_gg7771 Pain is pain and everyone feels it. Concluding that the society is not civilized because you meet some rich racist republicans at school, is in no way different from having a racist opinion about an entire ethnic group, because at some point you had a bad experience with some of its members. I am not American, and I don't live in US. I am seeing things from outside. You guys have no idea what a racist society really looks like. In racist society, those who have the majority would not turn over their heads and fall on their knees to please the minority towards which they are supposedly racists. In a racist society you lose your job, or friends, or have your life destroyed over some remotely racist remark, or even public hate speech. In a real racist society, the term racist hold no negative connotation. White peoples in America look pathetic in the way they try to pander to non-whites. Far from racist...
@@casie_gg7771 Don't apologize!! You have nothing to be sorry about. Your reply was justified!!
Based on what’s going on today in America, nothing has changed.
Nothing will ever change if people continue to live in the past
Eh... we aren't hanging blacks from trees a lot has changed. We have black actors who are famous. Things are getting better,
Ryan, what about the injustice that minorities are facing as we speak. I am sorry to say but, we are still living in the past. Believe me we want nothing more than to be treated like human beings. I love all race because I believe God is love. I can only pray for those who hate us because of the color of our skin.
Polly Ticks I completely agree with you.
#that part it got worser now with gain's gun's drug prostitution kidnapping killing kid's human trafficking police brutality. Homeless # I can go on and on
That man just said "Be happy you're here and shut up" all in defense of slavery...
They would have been murdered if they stayed in Africa
I Wish all black Brothers And Black Sisters Knew Their Real Last Names.
Most of our people who were enslaved in North, Central, and South America and the Caribbean come from the Bantu/Ibo Tribes of West Africa and the Congo. Our history is beautiful. Our history is in the Bible.
I changed my slave owner last name when I turned 18 I refused to carry the name
Last name don't matter you need to know what tribe you are from and repent
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GMS chariots 'R' us I scattered throu your video you made are you for real 😳
Me tooooo
I would have asked, "What were the things that made these men so great that they deserve memorializing?"
I would have immediately answered, nothing. They have nothing to be proud of.
@Chuck Farley dood - educated people tend to be the folks who recognize that these southerners were traitors wanting to maintain the inhumane industry of SLAVERY.
I believe you are projecting your own lack of education.
@Daniel Lim Slavery?! Don't be ridiculous.
@Daniel Lim and the genocide of the natives? Where is that history?
Their family origins in Europe?
Where is that history?
Cherry pickers.
@Josh Blocker yup
Those monuments are a form of mental torture. It's a way of expressing that I dominate you people without saying a word.
Exactly!
How can a monument torture you when it never happend to you? You need to check ✔ your black privilege cause black folks died for you to be where you are now.
@@bumperxx1 my great granddad was hanged and set on fire in front of my granddad when he was a 10 year old boy. I've had people that I knew to go missing or end up in the river. Now tell me again about my "Black Privilege."
@@lauradavis4174 i will tell you about your black privilege. It been bestowed apon you to carry on living a life of freedom to try to pursue a state of happiness. Its cause all peoples sacrifice to now for you and everyone to have privilege.
@@lauradavis4174 everyone has privilege now i just used the words black privilege to be provocative and get your attention. There is no black or white or any color of privilege. It just plain human rights and they are being violated and stopped on but we are better than that and we need to move forward.
I wish they would have interviewed the children and grandchildren, to see how they felt.
children are stupid
Giz, children are wiser than adults
I am amazed at how composed these journalists are.
yet fake news doesnt want you to know that George Floyd is a criminal 2007 charged with home invasion assaults, 2009 put in jail for armed robbery and drugs. Yet his death was justice for his victims.
greg kirby Go play in traffic!
@@StewGirl86 thats his history go look it up moron.
greg kirby and Chauvin has multiple cases of abuse of power. There was no reason for Floyd to die even if he has a checkered past. He served time.
I live free in Southern Africa and this is painful to me. The journalists are strong
that block represents your wanting the old times back. it is an effrontery to minorities and should be torn down.
Children of slaves are still living. My great grand parents were born in 1901,1903,1910 & 1911. 😑 children of slaves & children that were slaves are still alive. Not all but some
God I'm so sorry. Come back to Africa. It's not what you think. And here you are human. Not an inanimate object not worthy of being alive.
@Peter Grahame calm down. You are not in any position to tell anyone to get over it.
@Peter Grahame What about jim crow? And I dare you to tell the Jewish people from Europe "Time to stop feeling like victims and move on." ?
11:26 "Haven't we got beyond [slavery]?" Asked by the guy who invests time and resources in dressing in costume and playing Confederate soldier regularly.
You hit that nail right on the head....lmfao
@@davemorey1601 Then right after that you hear him say, "This language is not my native language either." American English IS your native language if you were born and grew up here. The same applies to all three of these gentlemen.
Slavery and additional 150 years of Jim Crow laws and modern day slavery via the prison system still affects black Americans today. This has hurt generations upon generations. We cant just get over it when we are still suffering from it
@@marissajeffers8302 Stop. You're not being discriminated and you're mocking your ancestors who were ACTUALLY opressed. You just want to feel special, and that is fine but not this way. You are as free as any other color in this day and age. Just because you interpret everything negative that's happening in your life as racism that's your problem not the country's.
@@daniroadto900lbsdeadlift4 Sorry, I know what I have experienced living for 40 some odd years in this country.
This is so sad that these gentleman even have to do this in 2020
its sad that people want to remove history
Ya you might want to ask their pronouns just to be honest... They brought a person from the LGBTQ community on purpose
They dont have to. They just cant let history be history.
I’m sick of all of this. This world is going crazy. I’m glad I’m the age I am and will soon be gone. My home is in Heaven and I can’t wait to get there!
@@kjvonly2451 Unfortunately us young people in our teens and twenties will have to stand this longer. It's not a easy fight. I hope that in my lifetime conditions and lives of people of color and of anytype that is discriminated against will hget to have a very good life. And when my generation is dying off, I hope the next kids will have things very well for them. But even so, they should always be taught abou what happened. Because it can always happen again.
That guy said their here like wow we get to live side by side and that's a privilege itself
@SexySwagg
Actually most of it was stolen by Spanish & sold to us. Read a book.
Texas was it's own Republic & choose to join us. New York was sold to us by natives. California was ceded to the United States after Texas gained it's independence from Mexico because they thought Texas would soon come for it & they had no desire to go to war with Texas again.Most of the Midwest was also bought through deals like the Louisiana Purchase.
It’s not about history they just love reminders it makes them feel good
The behavior of a small people.
I agree.
When I was a kid I remember studying the Civil War and being fascinated by the war fighters and learning about the atrocities of slavery . I think it best that we remember everything that we can .
@Leon thecat At least you sound like a proud American .
@@rwilson9759 then pick up a history book!
I’m so confused like what did he do to call that’s man a hero / needs a legacy...?
What?? And Who are you even talking about??
Lee is a part of history and one of the best generals in American history. We all disagree with slavery, but to try and remove our history bc it offends some ppl is a disservice to our past and we can no longer learn from it and move on. It teaches us that if something offends you, have it removed forever... which is a wrong way to go about it
@@stevenrandall8300I agree! R E Lee is surely an important historical figure, and surely one of the best American Generals. He was beloved by his men, and his strategic vision was that of a military genius. "Tiggy Piggy" couldn't put 2 sentences together, but I'd answer the same way, if the legacy of Lee is questioned.
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Steven Randall: maybe we should put up statues of the 9/11 hijackers on pedestals. After all, that’s American history, and they thought they were heroes and died for a cause they believed in. Same logic
Interviewer: "It reminds people their families were owned as property."
Old white man: "but." . . . .
Smh
@Peter Torbay yes, but I missed the part where women were being murdered by police disproportionately in relation to the population. Kids for that matter either.
Cute.
@@LuchadorMasque facts please (citations).
they were BLACK slave owners property to begin with in africa when they sailed over there to BUY them......... uhhh ohhhhhh
@@soulfly4076 stop gaslighting
@@soulfly4076 I'm not sure what that changes?
I loved the conversation with the white civil war reenactor. They had very different views here, but could debate it without any yelling or anger or name calling. Like these men just understand that its rooted, in this white privilege, its rooted in ignorance or a complete lack of understanding. This man will never understand bc he has never been discriminated against, and he didnt have to build generations of family on practically nothing. Out of slavery. It's so OBVIOUS and somehow people dont get it.
@Joe Edwards how can you say white privilege is dead when the men that killed Ahmad Arbury thought they could get away with it..... obviously bc of white privilege?
PTSD written all over this story and monuments...we gotta do better America as a whole.Been a war since birth.
Lol ptsd for people that are dead 💀 cause it was over 100yrs ago lol
Been a war before America was born they killed native Americans
"Everybody in America, today, has a great benefit?" Well, let us ask all of the families who lost loved ones to brutality and violence. Let us ask all of the people who have opaque ceilings, not even glass ceilings. Ridiculous!
Wow, who’s keeping you down? Have you even spent any real time in another country? I have. This one is the best with the exception of liberal democrats, who were the party of slavery and opposition to civil rights, and whiny cry babies who keep voting for these evil politicians because they don’t want to succeed but want everything given to them for free. That’s the ugly cycle that gives this great country a black eye 🙄
@@sgtrod amen
Take them down!
I would paint them mofo s
I can’t believe that in 160+ years that no one has taken a pickaxe to the auction block.
iv got one you can borrow, but a stiuck of dynamite might do the trick better
Could accidentally drive a vehicle right into it. 🤷🏼♂️ Oops
Ikr
@@wallydog2282 save the dynamite for those easily knocked over tall statues and the obelisk.
The weird part is, as a historian and one-time reenactor, I can actually understand both sides on this one. The big problem is that to a meaningful number of our fellow citizens, the descendants of those enslaved, the Stars and Bars brings out the same feeling that a swastika does for a Jew.
And they present it as the Confederate flag which it wasn't. It was a Confederate battle flag. It did not symbolize the presumed nation but the war itself, the battles fought, the grand and glorious terrorism of the age.
I get that argument for some as well, but definitely hard disagree on the statues all made post war during the Jim crow era and civil rights movement, those all should be smashed to pieces and forgotten, with maybe some pictures left of them as a footnote in a museum or book
Put these artifacts in a museum! Get it out of the town.
The slave block should be relocated, not in middle of the road.
There were slaves in Trinidad.
Yup
None of that makes our legacy of hate and oppression ok. I think most of humanity has had some form of slavery. It's not about who or where this happened; it's important that we get past this hatred. To do so we must own our shamefull heritage.
Where it is forces people to see it. That pain is worth not repeating the horror
I don't think these people even consider how painful a reminder it is to have this sh*t rubbed in their face everday...TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!
That's the whole point to remind people to know your place and keep evoking pain.
@dina bissell You realize that you're wrong right? Of course you don't. Slavery was a reason the southern states succeeded.
@dina bissell Nice try, but your dates are wrong, therefore nullifying your whatever you want to call what you wrote down.
@dina bissell Your use of the language is atrocious. Spelling and grammatical errors all over the place.
@dina bissell At least you corrected the fact that it was the Morrill tariff, not the Morrell tax.
The tariff was able to pass because many of the southern Congressman left Congress because their states had seceded from the Union.
The tariff was passed in March of 1861. South Carolina seceded in December of 1860, followed by 5 more states all before the tariff passed.
It is universally acknowledged that slavery was the cause of the Civil War.
The Jewish people left the death camps to remember the injustice but there are no monuments to remember the Nazism and that's the way it should be so let it be with slavery. Robert E.Lee made a quote to which sums it let go southern brothers,it is over....You can read the exact words on your own. His remarks are very interesting and thoughtful
Yeah right. The Jews were and always will be black. This lie is apart of the racism of amerikkka of the world the world hates us the world lied to us but all things come to the light.....
The confederates were proto nazis
To me keeping confederate monuments is like how serial killers keep their trophies and revisited their killing sites, we don’t build statues of them yet we our children and our grandchildren knows about them, history especially bad history should be kept in a museum.
Alabama is a place I would never live there still some sundowner towns in the south
Polly Ticks it’s a saying be gone before Sun down aka “ sundowner “ your welcome 😆
My life is Toxic Biloxi is fine 😅🤣
Yeah
Polly Ticks welcome to the internet
What does sundown town mean?
He spelled his first name then states his last name was cotton “Just like you pick “ to a black man wow the interview would’ve been over for me
I was blown away by that. But I am convinced that if he had put just a bit of inflection on that _you_ , it would have been a punch to the face.
Oh stop it with your black fragility already.
Why?
Still trying to figure out if he made a racist comment or chose his words poorly.
Why not take down all Confederate monuments and then those who want to keep them for historical posterity raise funds to buy land to build a museum so all Confederate families can visit them for eternity.
Not the same if u ask me and ur being prejudice by saying confederate families can visit them for eternity.
@@NaturallyHighDanny
Please explain why my statement is prejudicial to you?
D J you are cyberbullying people who view historical momuments and believe them to be a way for people to truly feel history.
@@NaturallyHighDanny
Wrong. I believe every individual should have a right to honor their past as they see fit on their own dime. However, "some not all" who wave the Confederate flag tend to do it at the cost of oppressing others. I have had good and bad experiences with individuals who wave the Confederate flag. I just feel Confederate monuments should be in museums paid for by those who want to honor their past.
D J I see but those museums cost money to start up and who knows if they’ll even support the costs throughout time. Almost every idea has an oppression side to it if u ask me. Some will some won’t just how it goes.
Phew ! That was painful to watch, I see why the young generation have no qualms with knocking these statues down. I’m not going to lie, It’s a joy to see those kids right the wrongs of their forefathers.
"So do we scratch it?" Excuses, excuses, excuses. If you want to remember history, put the sh...t in a museum. 😒
One of the interviewers should have said "how about a museum?"
Thanks 😊 you’re right
@Jan Brady But many of the statutes aren't historical at all, and were placed after the war had long ended so museums wouldn't want them anyways... now things like auctions blocks, documents, and historical monuments and structures yes.
seeing things in a museum dont really give you that same emotional impact that is needed, also, perhaps because we are getting out of generations that dont go to them as much?
What happened to all the statues of Hitler and Stalin? Oh right, uh huh.
They took down Saddam's statue almost immediately too
EXACTLY!!!! Thank you, someone gets it!!!! :DDDDD I was shocked to see they kept Aushwitz.....like, tear down that sh*t!!...plant a forest or something. Better yet, just tear it down and let nature take it, in its own time.....assuming its not still poisoned ground. You may put up a plaque in the area if you really feel you must. But its really morbid to keep it! In town square?? grosssss...... >.
@@brianbadonde9251 its cathartic to bury things...that's why we do it so much
@@andrabook8758 yes and people still claim it's for "history". History is already permanently written in books, we don't need monuments to remember something
Andra Book so, let’s banned all 20 dollar bills, because Andrew Jackson’s was racist, we don’t want to remember that!!
Lots of leaders agreed with slavery and some still do around the world
You don't say. There are more slaves in India currently living as ever were in the US. Most slavery these days is by black and brown people against black and brown people. Leaders don't endorse it but it doesn't get stopped.
@@annoyedaussie3942 typical attempt to minimize the subject by getting off topic. We're talking about these atrocities that need to be rectified.
@@TeemElohim so 10,000,000 slaves in India is not an issue and off topic. Isn't slavery one of the worst human behaviours? Are there any slaves in the US well yes there is but most of them are probably Asian and it's in the 1,000s are these people worthless because they aren't black?
@@annoyedaussie3942 no,not worthless. But centuries of black people being enslaved and murdered is what this discussion is about. When that is atoned for, then all other atrocities similar to this can be looked at for what it is. Clumping all together waters down the seriousness and importance of this American Mason satanic movement. 10,000,000 is a humungous number. Very heartbreaking. However, how many millions do you think were transported, bought, and sold and died over a 300+ year period? Dont tell me to look elsewhere, when my ancestors were victimized horribly. Rectify this first
@@TeemElohim well transported as slaves directly to US about 500,000 give or take. The total numbers of slaves that ever were in the US seems difficult to find and would include born as a slave which is possibly a larger number. If you are concerned about black people being enslaved what about the estimated 9,000,000 on the African continent living at the moment. Hey email me if you want, would love to discuss with you kliddle2AThotmail.com
My last name Cotton just like you Pick.
“ There We Go “
Glad to see I am not the only person that heard that, my jaw dropped in anger.
Yes i heard it too, so paused the video and scrolled down to see if I was the Only one who heard it.. but I heard him say "like the cotton YOU pick"!
He said "Just like you pick". Dont soften the blow by not listening
Disgusting😑
Thank i was like tf did he just say
Those monuments don’t have to be displayed in open spaces for people to remember the past. There are museums for that, put them there.
@Rose Lilly yes we can your "history" is slavery murder and jealousy of people with harder work ethics and stronger values then the entirety of the south thinks it has. Your history will be looked down upon the same we do with the nazis good riddance.
@Jan Brady it's in a museum then it's not being erased moron
@Jan Brady its not erasing. she clearly said put them away, not in public. let people learn about these pro-slavery guys in history books, not revere them in public
@Rose Lilly lord! its like talking to a wall. no one is erasing your beloved pro-slavery confederate generals. they just need to get off our streets and go into the history books so they wont be forgotten
@Rose Lilly they are not terrorists, they are protestors. You won't want statues of their leaders in the streets will you? Yet they are and will be part of our history....
Cotton, just like you pick... that was so disrespectful..
You read too much into it
@@StauntonG your right, his expression, his stare as he said it. And again he didnt have to say anything after he spelled Cotton.
This isn’t “history” for these racists. These monuments represent the glory days for them and their white ancestors. It’s gross and shameful.
Destroy those horrible nightmares cast them into the fire so that they can be fully destroyed 😠
“Representing the glory days” you’ve got to be kidding me! Southerners dont sit around dreaming of “glory days “ and wish slavery was back. Geez thats ridiculous! The Civil War was HORRIFIC! Its just history and part of our culture.
@Peter Grahame Like the Great Pyramids of Egypt and The Sphynx!!! They should be blown up and knocked down IMMEDIATELY cuz they were built with slave labor. They must be branded --EVIL!!! Nobody should he able to enjoy them EVER! Or maybe we could stop with the “ classifying things and people as evil” mentality.
Peter Grahame
You’ve made a good point. So let’s get rid of them all! We can’t and shouldn’t erase history, but we also shouldn’t shield our eyes and minds from the truth. Slave owners and traders should not be idolized blindly. The entire story needs to be told. Our precious “founding fathers” should be held accountable.
@@CumulusSkies “ our precious founding father should be held accountable” ????? What does that mean?
Older people that grew up during those times are stuck in their ways they’ll never see the glass half full....
Not even stuck in their ways, older ppl from those times and their kids who are still functioning today, have bn conditioned mentally or traumatized by the things they seen known and lived through. We got the better end of the stick compared to them. Thank God for change but we still in the game
Ebony Bartley couldn’t have been said better 🙏🏾✊🏾
esaesa07 I kinda understand what ur thinking but maybe u would resonate with what I wrote had I used the word Improvement rather than change. Being of African decent and slightly aware of wat has bn goin on in America since I was old enough to have sense, I can see who Are for change and who could care less. Which is why we’re still pursuing equality aka “Still in the game”
esaesa07 I believe 100Grand was posting in general not for one specific race. But I feel u
The only questions to ask those sentimental to the Confederate cause is: Would you like to have been treated that way? How would you feel if your ancestor was on that block being sold, split from their families? Would you like to be reminded everyday of how your ancestors were treated?
They can't see the human pain that is there until they imagine it was them, and even that is astonishing. All the rest is rationalization.
@Polly Ticks thats the thing. These folks black amd white don't want to hear the truth. They cannot handle the truth. Media supports and spins the lie. The result is unfortunate as those who are duped only end up with monuments as eternal distraction from an understanding that would truly heal.
@Polly Ticks Read what I wrote and see how it has anything to do with what you wrote. Make that connection, then I'll take you seruiously.
@@grizzlyaddams3606 So what is the truth then? Monuments are not a distraction. They are a reminder to an underlying cause. I don't need the media to understand someone's pain. I ask you again, which you should have read from my comment. How would you feel? Those who say others can't handle the truth are usually the ones who can not handle the truth themselves.
@@covfefe8971 I'm one of the hundreds of thousands of white Americans who have suffered from being a targeted individual as well as police abuse. To compound the issue I come from a scientific family while I myself am a spiritual being. I have had severe medical issues my entire life. My family has fought tirelessly against fascism, racism amd police brutality. Yet everytime I turn around the folks that we fight for are there with a knife to our back because of our skin color. When the best you can do is forget, you're doomed to repeat. Monuments are reminders and yes if feels terrible but that reminder will ensure that no one will ever be allowed to do it again. Know your enemy and stop fighting those who truly support you and know what is indeed best. We have been through the same if not worse.
@@covfefe8971 in addition, white people who help black people are often targeted by both communities. Just today I was ganged up on by two white men who repeatedly harassed me because of my standing up against their use of abusive terminology on Facebook. Terminology that is unacceptable in a world where certain peopke are targeted by police injustice. Their response was to use those very terms against me over and over and over in fact six times.
They have been reported.
Have a nice day. Remember... I will.
This is moving... history still repeating itself... when does it end?
It ends when the racist peoples power and privilege is leveled with everyone else .
look at the protests....there's ppl of every color there. The number of people who trully don't get that a free and just society is necessary for everyone is what 0.00001%? Old ghosts, of a f*cked up time that linger. Just have to find a way to bury them, while not erasing history that's all. Eventually even the stupiest person on Earth will realise that there's a price to pay for this kind of sh*t.
@@bacnthaday4350 Ah the communist way ?
How is history repeating itself. We finally had a black president whats yours or other black folks excuses....
Trymaine and John, thank you. This had to be difficult.
When I saw the lynching memorial, I lost my breath. I felt a constant flow of souls who never had the opportunity to influence the world. John said it seems like this could have happened last week as I was thinking the same.
Trymaine, I feel for you when you saw the Dodge County block.
We need to reconcile this history. Pronto.
That man said his name was Gordon cotton spelled just like you pick
I caught that too😷disgusting
That was racist as f, but he didn't even know it just being his self.
@@marsalliesroyal5159 yeah and the dude on the right with dreads was looking at him with this blank stare like "you just did say that",..he was in deep thought like to respond or not like he on camera doing an interview with this guy and in his home
I don’t think he was actually saying “you pick” he just used it as a way to describe cotton and how it’s spelled.
nathan Lumière yeah right!
Yup I want ALL those monuments torn down
Shut up
Hamdan God is good Why should she shut up?
@@God.sDaughter cuz white people are smart they build strong and developed country they should be proud of there nice history like every country !
you can tear them down.. but me and all those other rebels will show our pride and keep waving our flag.
@@hamdan_godisgreat7940 hope you know my people, mexicans fought four the south and im proud im related to a rebel
This is America. 🇺🇸 The world sees it. 😁🌎
Mark A. Daniels Sr with most respect to you the reason people don’t want these monuments removed is because it serves a purpose of teaching people about the evils of the past that we have move past for ex. In Germany Auschwitz still stands and shows the history of that evil and the nation and it’s people have gone past it. I understand the people in Fredericksburg And how they feel and I hope they move the monument instead of destroying it and losing it’s history that it teaches us all. Thank you for reading.
@@bonda_racing3579 I don't think it teaches anything as it is. If its so important it can be put in a museum and presented in proper context with a full narrative and story to accompany it. To dismiss its offensive to a group of people is wrong
ThePicatrixXx I still believe it teaches us about how the past and how things were back then. These monuments are the closest thing to a time machine. But yeah I agree with you 100% percent having a museum for this. Look all am saying is to-move them and not destroying-them.
@@bonda_racing3579 I understand what your trying to say, and maybe that would be okay if ALL Americans viewed them as lessons of history to never repeat again. But the harsh reality is that many Americans uphold these monuments as facts and have pride in what they stand for all while denying Black Americans of their history. These "things" should not be praised, those "men" should not be heroes. And you know as well as everyone else that the reason these things are left standing is for supremacists to keep their grip on dominating those that have always been oppressed. To those ppl these things are not just artifacts, they are not representations of the past, it is who they are. They relive the events, they live in the mind of the "men of their time" --- And THAT is the present. That is the problem. That is why they cannot understand the pain behind it all. Where we see pain, they see pride.
@@kandicebrantley5981 Black people sold black people to white people in Africa. Why doesn't this narrative start from the beginning? Perhaps reparations should begin in Africa? That being said, I like what Ruth bader Ginsburg said. All we need from our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.
Bunch of rabid dogs. I’m fine with taking this stuff down but to me that’s just pretending that it didn’t happen.
@Ray Joe Money.. are you fine with how the monuments describe these men as heroes? That’s not history. They were defending a wrong way of life. Just bc they thought they were in the right doesn’t mean we should honor that as such. They were heroic in the same way that 9/11 terrorists were heroic
Spirit of slavery is still affecting Africans living in US UK
But your HERE! Basically he’s saying... Deal with it! You weren’t slaughtered or sold! Unbelievable horrible and disgusting!!!
Would you rather be anywhere else
You can thank your lucky stars you're here
@@skylarsky3173 why aren't you there living in utopia. Oh I know why it's because you'd rather be in America.
@@skylarsky3173 Yes there is a whole lot of division in all lives matter. your stance only black lives matter is very inclusive. 👍👍👍.. My People are indigenes to this continent and were slaughtered. But I get it black lives matter.
@@skylarsky3173 you can go back to Ghana but I can never get my home back. Educate yourself.
The south seems to be holding onto the past and holding our nation back from progress. I wish the North East would succeed and create are own nation. Were always getting held back by red states and financially supporting them.
We can add some of the Mid-West and the Western states. If Blue states were their own country we'd be so much better off. The south would never survive without the north.
@@covfefe8971 I agree or even have a few blue state nations that share a tight relationship like the EU.
They are called the United States not the blue states that we like of American considering what you said it’s no wonder why people in the south hang on to these monuments
The Oman I don’t want to be the one to say this but dude that was a bad choose in words “hang”
@@lokeyz83 Wouldn't it be nice to debate the ACA vs a Universal Healthcare system, as opposed to Healthcare for all, vs healthcare for those who can pay. Wouldn't it be nice to have great infrastructure because we can pay for it, as opposed to crying we can't afford it. Wouldn't it be nice to actually PROGRESS, rather than be stuck by fear. Could also join up with some Canadian provinces.
"Haven't we gotten beyond that", WHAT!!!! 🤬🤯
It was 160+ years ago.
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Ok &..... 🤔😏
The argument of monuments,"it's to remind us of our history", is why museums exist. What if a group proposes having "a noose hang from a tree" as a memorial in the town square as a remembrance of their history? Would that be acceptable? People unfortunately, due to some human fault, wish for the "good old days". If you hear all the atrocities, lynchings,stabbings, your gut feeling is "how, why were those actions allowed?" When victims testify in court, they relive the incident. When you hear the stories if the past, don't you also emotionally feel the dread of people like yourself being killed?
We have them (nooses)in our courthouses in Mississippi and they argue it is for history. #portgibsonms #fayettems
I'm not black and I cried few times last days, as I did know. I can't imagine, if I do pain so, how your community do pain now (and always did). I don't understand how some people can't understand this or don't want to understand it, but I am not sad for them because I know God will never open his gates to these kind of people. I wish racism never took place in human history.
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Yes put up and fight for your right to put up any monument to slavery. Sarah Basset Knipe Riley was the mother of the wife of Peter Moller, my American ancestor, father of my great grand dad, an American sailor shipwreck by the Emily 1835 +_ on Tristan D' Cunha. He married Fanny Riley daughter of Sarah Bassett, a St Helena slave. My history is recent and for 40 years of human rights campaigns has left me with some kind of perceptions/understanding. It does not matter where we are from, injustice is injustice and yes reality is that its a lot older than your situation. a lot older and a lot newer. Did you do anything about apartheid? Why are you centred on the confederates. Africans have a much wider history. Obliterating confederate monuments will only loose the reason of our pain. I am an African descendent of a slave and there is so much human rights injustice in this world, you guys need to get on with doing constructive things. Fight for the right of the forgotten slave, put up a monument and leave behind your need to obliterate memory
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The Confederacy attacked the United States at Fort Sumter. They were every bit the enemy of the government as is Al Qaida. Having monuments to the Confederacy makes as much sense as building monuments to those enemies who attacked the Trade Towers. To this day the country honors the Pilgrims yet the grandchildren of those leaders at the first thanksgiving rounded up a local Indian tribe that was peaceful and had converted to Christianity and sold them to slavers going to the Caribbean. I may have ancestors who ended up in Haiti. When I was a child I wore a Pilgrim hat in school celebrations. There is such a deep culture of racism in this country and folks who have no idea about what they do not even know about the minority folks here, their lives and their history as being part of the American culture. This country has been run by racist white men, or those blind to racism, who shape the narrative for way too long. When the white woman compares the auction block to the death camps of the Nazis is to ignore that the Jews want those camps intact and they direct the narrative for educational purposes and they are treated as museums. black folks have not been consulted about the auction block nor given the job of directing the narrative, such as would happen if the block was relocated into a museum on slavery.
Incorrect. The confederacy NEVER attacked the union. The confederact defended itself from an illegal union invasion.
Shabuti R18 the fort was a US fort, they did not “invade” areas that belonged to the United States. the confederacy was a group of succesionists who took over national property and were responsible for causing the death of 600,000 young soldiers. Honoring the leaders of that insurrection, responsible for so much death and destruction throughout the country, is no different than honoring Osama Bin Laden.
@@farmwife7944 Lincoln was the one who started the war, not the south. The south and north split legally.
Lincoln did not want to lose the economy of the south amung other things. The south had no intentions of initiating war with the north. They didnt need the north.
Shabuti R18 there was no “legal” agreement to split the country. The north had industry, the south did not which is why they lost, because point of fact they did need the north. Did you go to school, ever? did you take an American history class at the high school level because you are woefully ignorant in US history? so, post all the replies you want, you cannot change reality or truth. Spinning your own version of history does not make any of it fact but it does illustrate your ignorance.
"No one is born racist, it's something you learn."
Aman
Evil lives in the blood
Humans in general are greedy and selfish beings. They always want more of everything. They want more knowledge, attention, money, freedom, things, friends, family and happiness.
People grew up on hate, then passed it on a pure child. The cycle wont stop.
You can find your history in the books not outside on a statue
Till they start burning the books .
R Wilson NPR is already saying to start burning them.
To my brothers and sisters African Americans we from mother Africa apologize for the sins of our ancestors from Africa . They were brainwashed by the slaves dealers.
Africa will always be there for all African Americans in USA Canada and the South America. Mother Africa stands for your unity.
b p he is just saying if the America’s prove to be cruel to the population of African descent, they can come to Africa. However it is unlikely as the USA and Canada offer a much better social security and economic opportunity to the African population. The pain of the past and those who refuse to cut ties with it are the ones that hold the US back from true equality.
Extremely offensive those monuments
them dont look at them...
Did anybody catch when he said "last name cotton ..c-o-t-t-o-n just like you pick" ? Or was it just me ? That really bothered me because what was the point of saying that? Idk if I'm overthinking it correct me if I'm wrong
Exactly what was the point racist ppl just can’t help it they will always show themselves one way or another
You're not wrong. And I caught it too!!
@@lunalite443 yep they just don't care
@@cyber6sapien ok good I was hoping I wasn't
I totally agree it is a spit in our face it has to go , we don't need that kind of reminder .
If anything, they should tear down the Georgia Guidestones, which state in 100 something different languages, a goal of reducing the world's population to 500,000; that means 7 billion people gotta go. Bet you've never even heard of them have you, little lamb (being lead to the slaughter).
@@usernamen0tf0und Please don't reproduce.
Exodus of Earth wow not even close to accurate. It’s 8 languages and 500 million ppl. The 10 recommendations were made to keep people and the planet healthy, as well as guide us into an age of reason. We had the freedom to listen or ignore. You can’t tear it down because it’s private property and most of it is really good advice. Here are the 10 recommendations:
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
So what kind of reminder do you want. Anything less and the severity of the crimes will be lost. Eventually forgotten and ultimately repeated
@@rrrr6863 It is your ilk who will not reproduce, since it's full of sorts who support what amounts to infanticide.