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Show 2 Recap...and concerns? - Hackney Diamonds Tour - New Orleans, May 2, 2024
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- The Stones are on the road! A short recap of the second show of the Hackney Diamonds tour. Also, I respond to concerns that fans have brought up so far on the tour. Fans are worried...find out about what!
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I agree with you Justin. These guys are playing live and following in the footsteps of their blues idols. It's a pretty heavy lift to translate such a high energy show in their 80's and they are still out there hammering away!
Thanks Justin for some wise remarks. The question is: What should our expectation be? Do we expect 80 year old musicians to perform better than ever? Is it even fair to make such comparisons? I just marvel at the fact they can still pull it off. I saw Jerry Lee Lewis when he was in his 80ies. Compared to this it is absolutely intergalctic what the Stones put on. Personally, I would wish for smaller settings, more songs from their vast back catalogue, more intimacy. The big stadium shows have run their courses, at least for me. I can not get excited about hearing Satisfaction for the 10.000s time. Therefore I am so so happy when I get one-off gems like Let It Bleed and Time Is On My Side in New Orleans. And of course the new songs from Hackney Diamonds!
there's nothing to add to this comment, LET IT BLEED in a cajun style was a very good idea, also with Irma Thomas.
you must see the groovy cover version of Keith's WAITING FOR MY MAN, from a Lou Reed Tribute album, fantastic!!!!
What should we expect? We should still be able to expect a damn good show. Regardless of their age. Their ticket prices are ridiculously high. If they can’t still do it then they should not be charging money for it. Keith Richards looks and sounds half dead on stage. The Houston show he barely did anything.
@@JurgenKrause-wx1cj I have seen I’m Waiting For The Man a dozen times, at least. Ultra cool, love it.
@@MrPernell27 I agree that they should deliver. I disagree with your view that they don’t. I think the show in New Orleans was very good, Huston was not quite as good but that is to be expected on an opening night. Reviews were still, by and large, pretty positive.
No, we don't expect them to sound and look like they did years ago....but there is such a thing as 'getting out of it while you are on top'.....I think they have reached that point....
I was at NOLA … and it was awesome 🎉 Mick even more energised than ever - voice /sound was incredible ! Including the local artists was really great too - Chanel was terrific too ! I would say Keith did come over a little reserved and not entirely comfortable in the first hour - I wondered if something was up - hearing him doing just the one number made me think that . Again that one number took a while to get going but he finished sweetly 🎸 I did also notice minimal interaction between Keith and Mick … However all in all a really special event well worth flying in from London for ❤ If Keith is suffering I hope he fully recovers 🤞🏼
I live in New Orleans and was at the Jazz Fest show. I loved every minute of it. This isn't 1972 and I don't expect it to be. It's incredible for what they are still able to do. As for Keith, I do believe that he is definitely recovering from something. He had a tissue box by the drum stand and I saw him use a tissue at least once. I'm glad everyone is still standing. I'm glad I'm still standing 😂. I'm going to the Atlanta show and looking forward to it.
I heard that he had Covid
Thanks for the recap and the parting words, we are very fortunate as fans of these rock pioneers to actually see them play in 2024.
I’m pumped to see them again on the upcoming Orlando date!
I liked the jazz fest show. Stripped down smaller stage makes them better. Fans would love them to do a stripped down smaller production show, playing more deeper cuts. But they’re still amazing and it’s so awesome to still see them
playing. Love the new songs!
agreed all the way around
I agree, smaller intimate shows
Guests were spot on- not over stepping and adding to the musical performances. Keith genuinely loved Dopsey and his Cajun flavored accordion touches. - The salute Ms Irma Thomas was touching and was a fantastic highlight of the show...
Great and honest review of the NOLA Jazz Fest and tour so far Justin. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man for watching!
I really appreciate the way you put it .. for me I’m in awe of them . I’m going to see them in Vegas and when I first started watching some of their videos from their last tour I thought how I had notice they have slowed down .But the last show I saw was 1983. But for them to be doing this at their age .. is in itself something to see , rock legends . And you are right this is uncharted territory for a rock band , and fans may not be used to seeing them this up there in years . I’m thrilled to be able to see them again . Live your show and your input - you are doing the Stones a service !🎸🎸🎸
1983 there was no tour...
So far what I'm hearing and seeing on YT vids is very satisfying. I'm feeling the energy rising. If Keef needs to sit then let him sit. None of these fellows need do any of it at all. I think they are doing it for us. I'm grateful for this historic moment in the pop culture.
Irma & Mick performance is more than a duett, ist's also a dialog. Really great stuff - love it, too
Enjoying every minute of this tour. Could be their last. Could be ours✌️💋
They did say awhile back that this will be the last tour. During the Hackney Diamonds press conference, Mick did say they might be doing a residency somewhere. He did not give details or a location.
I have been going to see the stones since 1975 and have seen them eleven times in my lifetime so for and I consider them my no.1 band and at 80 years old I think they r still do great we all get old and slow down in life and for them to still be putting on concerts it is amazing I was at the Houston show and it was awesome I hope to see them again but if this is their last tour I can't blame them because we all have to learn to stop working and enjoying the rest of I life's doing what we want even though I think that's what they enjoying doing more than anything keep on rocking my big brother's ❤️
Can’t wait to see them in LA. 80 years old and still rocking.
HAVE A GREAT TIME! WISH I WAS GOING! 💯☝️💎🎸🎶🎤👅🌟👅🏆🕺
Best. Band. Ever. Always will be.
Yeah, I think you nailed it, Justin. This are two 80 year olds doing a rock and roll tour of America ( awe inspiring !),
plus a little bit of early tour rust. 😊👍🎸🎤
The fact that they are still on stage is AMAZING! Who else can rock like the Stones this late in life?🤔
@@williambenner701 Yes, we are so lucky and privileged to still have them around going strong !!
Being at the venue Live, is completely different than phone video recordings.
I'm sure the Stones have some rust to knock off, but I don't think it's what we can meadrom these phone vids.
Unless it was/is with the legends that inspired them to play in the first place (John Lee Hooker, Bo Diddley, Hubert Sumlin), I'm not generally a fan of guest artists at Stones shows - but with Dwayne and (in particular) Irma, they got it spot-on! Another guest I'd be glad to see is Chris Farlowe - not a name well-known in the USA, but he topped the UK charts with the Jagger-produced 'Out Of Time' in 1966.
I'm absolutely fine with Keith (and Ron) sitting down occasionally if it improves their playing. The intro to 'Gimme Shelter' is something he's been screwing up occasionally for years ('Brown Sugar' was another one), so good on Keith for taking a bit more care. Yes, showmanship is important - but NOT if it's to the detriment of the actual music.
In 1998, I saw a London show featuring Jerry Lee Lewis (63), Little Richard (65) and Chuck Berry (71). They all did more than OK, but Mick and Keith in their 80s are STILL musically superior, play longer and put on more of a show than those relative youngsters did at the time!
Exactly, he is doing it proud and he's earned the right to rest his joints once in awhile. Love the honesty, honestly!
Mick and Keith wrote the book and owned the book Case Close .
And, books don't go on forever, do they? They end....
Was at both shows. Keith can't get Little T & A lyrics quite in sync but otherwise pretty damn good show for mostly eighty year olds 🎉🎉❤❤
wow ….both shows…👍🏻
In all fairness he never really could. 🤣 Saw them a few years ago they still sound amazing. I dont care how old they are. I'll go see them.
Thanks so much Justin for your always thoughtful perspective on our boys! I've watched both shows in their entirety, and I have a few thoughts: opening night, in Houston, felt a little rusty to my ears. The band felt disjointed, and I could see Mick was struggling with the high notes. And then there was NOLA! Maybe it was the few days of rest in between shows, or maybe it was more rehearsals...but I swear, from the opening chord of Start Me Up, they had my attention and admiration! I was totally gobsmacked, the difference between the 2 shows felt like night and day! It's almost like they regrouped after Houston and raised their own barre, and/or stepped back into their greatness. I'm a singer/performer myself, and watching Mick here was like getting a master class on how it's done! I felt he was freer both in voice and body at this show, and overall he just seemed to really be enjoying himself. Ronnie was really exceptional too! Keith was far better than in the first show, definitely looser, and seemingly happier. I would like non-musicians amongst us to realize how hard it is to play an instrument with arthritis. Keith has already told us that he suffers with arthritic fingers, so....let's cut him some slack, and realize that part of his genius has always been about creating more from less (hence open G tuning). So now, at 80 years old, he simply won't have the dexterity that he once had, but....his adaptability will prove his genius, again, as it always does! The whole band and extended band...from Bernard & Chanelle, to Chuck on keys, the horn section. Daryl Jones....were all so so tight, and gave a GREAT performance! To add Dwayne Doopsie and Irma Thomas to the show was just the most delicious icing on an already delicious cake! I really felt like this was a very special show, for everyone, but most importantly, I think it was really special for Mick & the boys. And with all the jazzy traditions incorporated throughout (the call and response, extra horn and bass solos) I think Charlie would've approved BIG time! So...that's my take! Thanks for all you do, Justin, much appreciated! Take good care, peace & love from Toronto, Canada! ♥🎵🎶
Thanks Wendy!
Jazz Fest was my 19th show since 1989. It was the most unique setting I've ever seen them in. A few bum notes here and there but I'm not complaining. They still sound great.
Great breakdown at the end, from what I can tell they are still sounding great to me! Watched some Houston footage, some some favorite videos from Shine A Light concert doc, and came back to Get Off My Cloud live in 2024 and was really excited about their energy and vibe. Can't wait to see them live!
I agree. Yes, they're older, but it's a LONG GAP from the end of their last tour (Aug. 3, 2022) to this tour. Also, an afternoon gig in broad daylight... It's just different. Ronnie mentioned it before the show and Mick commented about it re: the Hyde Park show. This is a nighttime band.
The NYC-club gig looked pretty on point.
I heard that Keith is recovering from COVID. Regardless, HUGE RESPECT for going on with the show.
Keith and Ronnie wear their guitars TOO LOW. They should sit down for the whole show.
Inviting Irma Thomas to perform TIOMS was brilliant and super classy. It shows that The Stones are still in the music.
Cellphones don't capture magic, spirit and energy. The reviews from people at the shows were good, if not amazing.
I really hope to see them in Cleveland, mid tour.
First off, These guys have earned the right to play wherever and however they want to. I saw them in Houston on the No Filter tour and I was expecting Mick to perform and sound somewhat like he does now, and he blew me away with his energy for being in his mid-seventies. So 4 or 5 years later I’m not surprised to see a drop in his energy level at age 80. Temper your expectations. He still sounds like Mick. Regarding Keith, he can sit all he wants as long as he plays well. He wants to get it right, I appreciate that. I do agree with those that say The Stones should consider playing smaller venues at this point. I wasn’t at either of the first two shows, but by watching the videos, it looks like their days of commanding a stadium stage are behind them. Regardless, what a remarkable run. Nothing but respect for the boys.
Thank you for the update Justin. I'm going to see them 5/11 in Las Vegas. Keith sat for stretches when I saw them in Vegas in 2021. Sound-wise though, they were great and I'm expecting the same again.
I was at that show too.. didn't affect the performance... let us know how Vegas is here, and I'll do the same for NJ
@@bigtip8371 It's a deal!!
@bigtip8371 As promised. But first Happy Mother's Day to any moms reading this. The show was fantastic! My mom, age 73, had never seen the Stones before, as did the two girls in their early 20s seated to my left, and their friends in the standing section on the stadium floor. iAnd the Stones played as if there were people who were seeing them for the 1st time and wanted to impress. I love those guys. Keef must have heard us all, no sitting for him. The only break for him was band introductions which of course Mick handles those. Set list was a mix of favorites, newbies and a few unearthed gems. All you Stones fans know this is SOP for them. I see Steve more comfortable in the drummer's chair. In 2021 we lost Charlie plus it was the slight uncertainty of coming out of covid. Last night's atmosphere seemed free in comparison to then. And Woody has taken on the role of "I got you big bro" in terms of Keef. All the talk about Brian Jones and Mick Taylor being brilliant and all, true as it is let's give Woody his flowers. He's earned them. And finally in the Lisa Fischer/Gimme Shelter role.. this lady Chanel Haynes is stunning to see and hear both! A fantastic night out for all in Las Vegas!
Let Keith rock ❤️🔥🤟
Excellent report as always. We are in relatively uncharted territory and it's a blessing they're still out there. But, as die hard Stones fanatics, we have an obligation to report what we see and hear, honestly.
I watched your report too and that is true, but lets see what happens in the next week or two
@@deand7348 Absolutely - I'm still excited about seeing them at Metlife at the end of the month.
I hate the criticism of Keith’s playing on opening night in Houston. Justin hit some important points about the flu etc. I’ve been playing for nearly 60 years and have had to play sick many times. It’s not easy to do when all you want to do is crawl in bed. Additionally, look at Keith’s fingers and the extreme arthritis. I’m amazed that anyone can play like that. Yet he’s been playing that way for many years. He’s had to learn to play in different positions because of it. I think he’s truly amazing. I would hate to be scrutinized as closely as a band like the Stones. We should be glad they are still here to carry on however they want to do it.
right on!
They are in their 80s. Accept what they still have to give with gratitude. 🙏
Fair analysis as ever. Very good point re: Phone recording unreliability e.g., anyone checking out TH-cam footage of their Edinburgh gig in 2018 will think that the gig was "good". I was there on the pitch and I can tell you they were bloody magnificent, 11 out of ten as we say in the UK!!!! I do think they should play more HD tracks though and I do think that Ronnie should do the solos on tracks like Sympathy for the Devil, because just he's better at them than Keith.
I don't care if they are sitting down or standing up, just as long as they continue to sound as GREAT !!!!!! as they do. Can't wait for the NJ Show. I will be there
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Legendary. Being a Stones fan since '64, this is back to their roots. Being a Hackney diamond, I can say the new album is the true London Stones I grew up with.
Irma's appearance touched my heart. She is such a lady and Mick was a gentleman. What a great duet.
Touching observation, about Keith. With the Stones, you never knew what to expect, thats the charm for me. On the other hand I don't want to see them when they can't do it anymore that would be horrible! But I can't tell, just by watching youtube video's or hear people that were always negative (in the first) place! That's why I like the positive way this channel review them!
As long as they can perform and people are willing to pay to see them . I say more power to them ! It's Only Rock & Roll people.
this is history no other band has done this
but i like it like it yes i do
ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!! THE ONE & ONLY ROLLING STONES!! ERMA THOMAS HAD A GREAT TIME!! 80 YEARS YOUNG AND STILL GOING STRONG!! MICK, KEITH, RONNIE STILL SOUNDS GREAT!! 💯☝️🎸👅🎤🏆🎸🎶🕺💎👅💎🎸👅R.I.P Charlie Watts 🕊️💔 I miss your smile!!
Great recap, Justin !! Thanks for your thoughts on New Orleans 👅
I remember over thirty years ago, Mick talking about not wanting to be playing still when he had to sit down and do it from a chair, and I remember thinking the John Lee Hooker could still rock a house while sitting down. Mick is absolutely amazing for his age. Compare him with David Lee Roth who is much younger and not nearly as spry anymore.
There are other examples of artists such as Jerry Lee Lewis or BB King performing into their 80's. But in those cases they are the center of the show and everything else revolves around supporting them. The difference is that a Stones performance has many more moving parts. Not only do Mick, Keith and Ronnie have to be in sync up front but then Darryl, Steve, Bernard and the rest of the band have to adjust their own performances to support them. So in that way your last comment is spot on, to say the guys who helped invent rock n' roll are continuing to do so, making history every time they step on stage.
Thank You Justin 👌 for this nice recap ( resoconto ) on Tour 💎 and New Orleans Jazz Festival ✌️ the Rolling Stones are still Fantastic 💥 They are the Most ✌️ Great 🌟 Fabulous Band of World 🌎 MICK JAGGER 👑♥️ EVER THE BEST 🔥 Rolling Stones Forever and Ever 💫💯♾️
First of all, I love your vids Justin. Something about you is good vibes.
I’m a bit concerned with the tour and mistakes- but agree it’s hard to tell on a phone vid.
For years (well decades) I’ve thought it would be cool if they did a stripped down tour- really raw raunchy possibly acoustic blues, like the Rolling Stone Blues at the end of Hackney. I think as they get older that may be what we see from them if they can’t keep up with the energy of their harder songs. It sucks- but Father Time is undefeated. Peace everyone
A stripped down tour would be the best for the stones
Thanks so much for watching!
Great explanation Justin. I am still being optimistic because tours have picked up speed in years past. Just watched a 2022 video when Keith was absolutely ruling the stage, so I am hoping that's coming.
Unfortunately when you have been around so long, you will always be compared to your peak days. Each album "isn't as good as Let it Bleed", "they don't sound like they did in 81", etc. Fact of the matter is, people should be enjoying this while we still can. They put out a solid record and are willing to take it out on the road...at 80 years old.
It would be amazing to see them do a tour closer to "Stripped" with smaller venues and maybe they could sit down the whole time if they wanted, but the demand outweighs that option. They still want as many people as possible to see them and if this is the last tour, might as well go out big.
Congrats to Justin for the thoughtfulness and generosity of his thoughts on Keith. I am one of those who has been worried about Keith's playing for some time now. All of Justin's points are valid and have given me pause. I have also seen for myself times recently when Keith shows enough ability to assuage some of my fears. And I also have to ask: would Darryl Jones be touring with them in 2024 if Keith simply couldn't hack it? Would Chuck Leavell? I don't believe these guys would - they would call it a day. Yet there they are, and there is Keith, clearly having fun and feeling good much of the time. I now believe he is more careful all the time because he can't quite trust the consistency of his playing on some numbers in particular - he may be ok, or he may get a bit unlucky and have to be covered by the rest of the band. Thanks, Justin, for this perspective.
thank you!
I am personally tired of people comparing 1972 stones to 2024 Stones! (Or whatever years you choose) respect the past but live in the now baby! ( baby courtesy of Keef, ha ha). I prefer warts and all performances to backing tracks and fakery. This is Mick and Keith at 80 ( and Woody, who is not 80) love it or leave it, I choose to love it ❤
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I have my ticket for the 15th in Seattle ❤
That version of Let It Bleed together with Dwayne Dopsie could be their best ever performance of that song
I liked it in 1981, but yes, this is just as great in it's own way. Mick, Keith and Ron were clearly having a ball!
I am curious about Keith's inconsistent volume levels at times that you mentioned. In prior tours, haven't they just used the guitar's volume knobs? Turn the guitar all the way down before disconnecting & changing guitars, then raise the knob to the desired level? But now there's a guy dedicated to either deciding what we hear or live mixing to extreme levels? That's weird if so. Keith has always been pretty candid, i am curious about that.
they always CRANK him at certain moments like in JJF and SFM - but yea this seemed a bit different :0
Great video Justin. I totally agree with this take. I only wish we’d get Rambler back in the set list as it’s such a fun song to see live. Other than that, really looking forward to the upcoming shows. What shows are you attending? Cheers
Rocked it hard . Erma is. A badass
I can't wait for Chicago!
tthank you for thé récapitulatif ! 🎉🎉
The day is not far when all of us will say damm it just one more tour😢 and there won't be one ROCK IN ROLL IS COMING TO AN END .
great post esp defending Keith. The people that are bashing him should just enjoy him and the Stones while we can and not expect this version of the Stones to be anything like any previous tours. I am seeing the Stones at Gillette and very much looking forward to soaking up every minute. Cheers
I didn't know Keith had ever played the intro to Gimme Shelter sitting down. Thanks for clarifying!!! You're probably right, what you say makes sense. Let the tour take its rhythm. And it's true that judging through a bad TH-cam video is not doing justice to their performance.
Thanks again for your question! All valid concerns. Let's see how the tour turns out, I may come back to this topic at the end of the tour to see how things actually turned out. By the way, is your screen name based on Kubrick's 2001? HAL? 🤔
@@HangFireStonesPodcast Yeah! 2001 is my favorite movie of all time👌🏻👌🏻
@@HangFireStonesPodcast It would be cool to make a video on the use of the Stones' music in films! Scorsese often used their music as the lead in certain scenes. Or the end of Interview with the Vampire with Guns n Roses' version of Sympathy For The Devil. Or even in advertising! In 1995 Start Me Up was the official soundtrack for the Microsoft Windows 95 commercial. It would be a fun video to do!
@@TheHalrobot yes fantastic idea 💡👍👍
@@TheHalrobot 2001 a favorite of mine too 🌌👨🚀🛸
I really love your videos. Interesting thoughts. Keep ‘em coming lol
Thanks for watching!
We need to hear it recorded through the board
Keith has arthritis. Not just in his fingers, but his knees and maybe more.. he may be sitting down but he is playing that Gimme Shelter intro better than he has for years. And he and Mick have joked about performing with canes and wheelchairs for years! Lol John Hooker sat thru most of his last 10 years of performances and brought the house down❤
I was there. No one expects vintage quality level performances from them and they did not exceed expectations. As much as I have waited a lifetime to see Miss Irma finally get her moment in the spotlight with the Stones, the best thing about the show was Jaggers joke he told directly in Governor Landry's face. Musically the best part was the juidicious use of maracas and Chuck Leavell's heavy lifting. Honestly, there just wasn't much guitar playing. They really could have used a boost from Mick Taylor again. I saw Neil Young the next afternoon and he does a far better job of sounding like prime Neil Young that the Stones can do for themselves at this point. It's nothing to feel bad about. I have seen the Stones a dozen or so times. If you go just expecting to have a fun time and don't have expectations of greatness, you will be satisfied.
I was at the Houston show, if anybody is saying anything negative about their energy levels or how they sound then they were not at their concerts. Keith was a little tired but he did a good job in the concert
Agree with the mix,the phone videos always sound like crap but when you see a production vid of the song you hear the interplay between Keith and Ronni , that said they are getting up there to say the least and they are slower and a bit less intense each tour but they still kick ass
I hear ya Justin and appreciate what they are doing at this point in their career. I appreciate that there is demand but me (myself) just wishes they’d go out playing smaller venues
Would be nice! Demand is too big tho!
I caught 5 or six expensive whino’s shows, a few stones shows in the late 70’s early 80’s. A ton of dead shows from 79 to 86 and at least one until the end. I saw Keith a Mr wood playing T&A from Huston. Looked and sounded like talent night at the old folks home. Same with dead $ company. I’m up there myself, nostalgia is a potent drug, billions are spent in its name every year. I do think billy strings is up there, pokey lafarge as well. Not dropping a few hundred on the boys this year. I which them and their financial advisors well.
Thanks for the recap, buddy.. The Stones rule, my only wish and request to the..mixing engineer./ Drum technician" please make that drum sound just like Charlie's, even Charlie depended on you.
But he isn't Charlie, and never will be. Steve's sound is much heavier, and he will never sound like Charlie, even with drum techs.
@@stones7589 u r right, it's like requesting M Taylor to sound like the passing Brian ...same deal here.
None of us are getting any younger. We should give them credit for continuing to perform and adapting. Don't be a fair weather fan. The people criticizing them don't have to listen.
Stones are clearly Rolling and not Rocking anymore nowadays. Which is fine!
Was glad to hear Rocks off the other night in HTown from the Pit on the rail. Keith did well on several tunes w/exception of Sympathy. No leg kicks anymore though. Lol🎸
I found myself being less dismayed about the current state of the Stones after watching the most recent Motley crue live footage. Motley crue has Jon 5 as the young "slightly overzealous" guy as a replacement, & the Stones have Steve Jordon being the younger, busier, & harder hitter than Charlie. The Stones have decades on motley crue, and very likely still give a better representation of themselves in comparison. Every active, sane, old person i talk to in real life says the key is to keep moving when you're old. That's all the Stones are really trying to do, what they've always done. Play music. So I'm done criticizing the Stones. They have eyes & ears to decide if they like what they're doing& they've earned the right to do what they want. The classic albums and footage will never change, regardless of how negatively time inevitably affects Keith's tired and abused finger & hand joints now. Enjoy the good moments, we all end up like Charlie eventually.
The ONLY singer of Mick's generation I can think of who is (a) still in great voice, and (b) fit and athletic is Paul Jones of the Manfreds. I saw them last year, and the guy's incredible. Kiss, Aerosmith, AC/DC and all those other Rock bands are relative youngsters.
Beautifully said. And all too true.
And the band has always needed 3-4 shows to really get in the groove imo.
They usually are at their best in the middle of a tour.
I find the commercial side of the Stones sickening. And have for years. It's become a shameless cash cow.
But the music from performances I've seen from Jazz Fest look truly Amazing for a band that is three men standing, av age 78.6. Mick has the energy of someone 25 years younger (at least he does for those 2 hours the guy must pay for each performance for days after), and Keith & Ronnie are keeping the train rolling. They're a band I've had a love hate relationship with for all of my 52 years but also one I've sadly never seen live. I don't think that'll now ever change as I live in a place they never come to. But you said it, this is the Wild West, these guys are playing at an age that's never been done. I remember going to see The Who, in 2000 at the Royal Albert Hall, and I was worried they'd just be too old. Roger was 56. By today's standards that's nothing.
So much talk about Keith. I actually think he sounds very good from the clips I've seen. I'm a lot more worried about Ron. Some of his solos are very lacking to say the least.
Yes absolutely this. But also, you could say that about Ronnie in 1997 or 2002 or several other tours. Same with Keith - people acting like he’s too old because he sat during GS or muffed the intro to Start Me Up. He did that SMU snafu in 2013, and had been screwing up the intro to Brown Sugar for over 20 years. Especially when either of those songs opened a show. Seems Street Fighting Man and Jumping Jack Flash are the two you can count on Keith to nail the intros when they are the first song while some other options are just going to be questionable.
I'm always afraid of that day too... But if they have to play sitting down, so be it
Stones never afraid to get the best up on stage with them, never afraid to employ lots of sidemen to get it right. There are about ten paid sideplayers and singers on that tour.
Not sure who is playing what anymore though... Keith has bad arthritis etc.... Rock on 🙏🙏🙏
there's 11 people total on stage, 3 of them are the stones. nothing's changed in the guitar department, you know exactly who's playing what.
@@HangFireStonesPodcast You don't know actually!! K & R regularly exchange parts, and we are not sure if every guitar note is coming from them.
He’s Ben sitting down for Gimme Shelter (intro) for a while.
Lord have mercy - He’s been sitting… I wonder why he doesn’t do it in Open E as he did it on the record?
Show me another band ,ill wait.!!!!
YO ALLEN!! LEVI STADIUM GIG IS COMING!!
"Long story short".........C'mon people!!!!! These are elderly men! kudos to them! This is a band that started LONG before most of you were born!!
Yes, I think this should be the last tour. The whole show/shows sound different....slowed down versions. Mick is just not his usual self on the two concerts I have seen so far....the whole sound projection of the concerts is 'off'
Keith is 80 years old,if he needs to sit down let him. Honestly you can't expect guys at there age to be running around on stage like young men. It's just not realistic. I think as a whole they are doing great. I watched the entire Houston show on TH-cam and thought it was wonderful. My only real complaint is that the set list isn't that adventurous but that's a minor gripe.
In this day & age i'm sure the technology exists to program that if a guitarist hit a bum chord or notes way off key, that it could trigger either a massive volume lowering or signal cancellation entirely through a soundboard. I forgive them for anything short of outright mimicry, but just let us know what's going on. I think that's fair.
KR: I don't think he's doing so badly, it's quite alright what he plays, and he'll be more self-assured and outgoing as the tour progresses.
But let alone age and arthritis: I suspect that Keith never touches an electric guitar when he's at home, and he's very reluctant to play one without the band (Fallon Tonight Show, or Guitar Moves “I plug in, I charge $$!”, ...). I can't imagine him sitting down in his Weston library playing along to Stones records with an electric to get his chops down and maybe come up with a new lick or two on older material. Consequently, the only practice he gets playing Stones songs is during rehearsals.
I also wonder if it would help if he switched standard tuning to open-g which would make something more intricate like the Gimme Shelter intro easier to play for him...
I can't see him playing it in standard tuning, I don't think he has ever done so
@2v_5r84 It was recorded in Open E, but he plays it on his black Gibson ES 335 which is in standard tuning, imho.
... or on his yellow Les Paul Junior, which is in standard tuning as well.
Stones Tours were always rough at the start. Even 40 years ago. Philly 81 was probably one of their worst gigs. But New Orleans was already miles better. I saw the first four songs in a livestream, and they were great. Mick is getting used to Angry, Whole Wide World took off, and if Keith can pull off Little T&A, I think we'll be alright. I only whish he did Tell Me Straight too.
I've always preached the same, even on this channel...couple that with Keith being under the weather,they will be on top of their game soon 🎸
This! Keith will be the first to tell you it takes a bit to kick the rust off. And at 80+…
I was right with the Vegas show..can't wait for NJ
The set list needs it's only rock and roll, and brown sugar before jumping jack flash and right after that satisfaction, sweet sounds of heaven has to be in the middle of the show not in that position
Good analogy on keith gimme shelter intro! But I really think something needs to change on the tumblin dice solo by ronnie,kinda cringy...
i hate the cell phone videosv they just dont do the artist justice
The way Keith butchered the opening note to Start Me Up on the opening night of the tour was an ominous sign. I love the new album, but I don't think they should have done a tour to support it. I prefer to remember them the way I saw them in 2019 at Soldier Field in Chicago...they put on an amazing show that night!
It would be cool if Mick Taylor was added to the lineup!
I'd prefer Bill Wyman personally.
and this from a hedonist
I hate to say it, but I think this run should be a warm up for a farewell tour. Unless they are going to add a 3rd guitar player. Keith is my favorite of all time but he is not pulling it off anymore. I hate it but it had to happen eventually. Hope they do an arena run multiple nights of deeper cuts as a farewell.
The Stones got a lot of criticism when they used Blondie Chaplin on 3rd guitar. So whatever they do, they'll never please everyone.
@@peterchecksfield9958 Really? I thought only deep fans noticed Blondie. I'm sure Chuck has his keyboards set to guitar to fill out the sound a bit on certain songs. I see him constantly playing. Even on songs that have no noticeable piano or keyboards. I saw an interview with Mick's monitor guy. Mick doesn't want Keith in his mix anymore and gets his vocal cues from Chuck and Ronnie. Wasn't Blondie only playing acoustic along with the Stones? They will need something soon. I'd love Taylor to be back full time as long as he plays alot of rhythm instead of just soloing. I don't think anyone would mind having a 4th Stone on stage. I could see Waddy off to the side with Chuck. I bet less than 30% of a stadium crowd would notice. Ronnie is still not stepping up to play a raw chugging rhythm like Keith used to do. Ronnie is still doing the weaving bit and it doesn't really work with Keith playing when and what he wants these days. Ronnie is barely heard. His Strat into a clean Fender is a very poor choice. He needs only humbuckers into a Ampeg or Boogie. And cranked. The soundman can push him up in the mix without Keith noticing anymore. Ronnie used to carry the Faces by himself. The KC show I saw in 2015 was a vastly different sound than current shows. It was so great I cried at times. They were hot that night. Best I'd heard since '81. Too bad there's not a pro-shot I've seen. But if you watch Street or Sympathy you can tell how good they were that night even with the crowd shot videos. But I bet it's impossible to advise Keith or Mick to do anything. Keith seems happy with what he's playing. He's almost fallen into a BB King style of playing and it doesn't work with a guitar based band like the Stones.
Who cares if he's sitting down? He sat down even on some mid 70s shows.
sympathy for the devil should be dropped. i feel its lost its impact and the solo is not good.
I'd prefer to hear them do it "Ya-Ya's" style live.
Geez...WHAT THE HELL,,, LET EM RETIRE , DON'T NEED YO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, WHAT ARE Y'ALL'S EXPECTING ,, A BUNCH OF
YOUNGINS. WITH THEIR YA YA'$. HANGING OUT.....THEY DON'T NEED THE MONEY.....
I politely disagree about Let It Bleed getting the zydeco treatment. To me it ruins the cool country blues nature of the song and all the Chuck Berry riffs we usually get from Keith.
The concerns are valid. I have several friends who are in the Shidoobee group who don't want to post their opinion for fear of everyone bashing them. No concerns about Keith sitting down. Only concerned about him getting older and not being able to do what we love to hear. It's sad but just a part of reality! He was the king of riffage. His right hand just can't do what it used to.
They should have stopped touring after Charlie passed. But to add insult to injury, they are charging outrageous ticket prices and giving substandard shows. Now Keith can barely deliver, and let's face it, he's integral to the show. Why are fans willing to accept this just to see their idols on their way down?
@@stones7589I don't blame you on your viewpoint. The last tour was my 16th show since 97. It was also the first time since Memphis in 05 where I felt there just wasn't as much magic. A lot of it boils down to an unadventurous setlist and crazy ticket prices. It was still fun but nowhere near seeing them at the Beacon or with Mick Taylor.
Keith can still pull out a good riff here and there. He's not gone but definitely diminished. We're getting towards the end for sure, which is probably a good enough reason for them to tour one final time.
Jeff Lynn's ELO is doing a final tour and they called it that. Honest move. Admittedly all he has to do is sing though. No dancing or improvisation in his shows. At least with the Stones we get the real thing.
@@stones7589 Or stopped after Brian left / after Mick Taylor left / after Bill left? We can all decide when they "should've stopped", or we can let THEM decide that. People are clearly still enjoying their concerts, and no-one is FORCING anyone to go. That said, I don't think anyone should be totally beyond criticism, whatever their age is.
Yes and there is enough there still to keep them interested...anyone who wants to come on the ride is welcome. For those who want to get off the train--no skin of their nose.
@@HangFireStonesPodcast100% agreed. This tour will be show #16 for me since 97. Taking my daughter with me and she's almost the age I was for my first gig. I also know plenty of people going for their first show.
woulda been good without all the yammering in between
They are old. They are diluting their best efforts. They should be doing sit down play the blues tours instead of this nonsense. Sure it’s admirable to be energetic at 80 but it doesn’t ring true. Sit down. Play small venues. Play the blues…THAT will be an homage to their original inspiration.
I've watched some of the clips online. Mick can still sing the songs, though it is in a perfunctory manner. The outlying musicians are the ones holding the songs together, mostly bass and drums. Ronnie and Keith can barely play at this point. I listened to some of their leads and its seems they lose the thread pretty quickly when they improvise. Keith's timing is not what it was, and for one of the shows he muffed the beginning of Start Me Up. I don't really know why they continue. It must be the intoxication of all fanboys who listen with their heart and grade them on a curve. Speaking of grading them on a curve, yes they in their 80s so being able to do anything musically is a wonder. But how can this be enjoyable for a fan who is not listening for mere nostagia's sake? This tour is (another) chance for Stones satellite musicians to get a great paycheck and an adrenaline rush for the remaining Stones -- which they seem to need desperately because there is no reason to continue this other than that. When the obit on the band is written, it will be all about the band of the 60s and early 70s. All these Rolling Stones Inc. tours since the late 1980s will be forgotten.
Forgotten by who? Some of those shows from 1989 until well into the new millenium were amongst the best of their careeer.
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I’m not really a fan of how aggressively the mixers ride the Keith and Ronnie guitars. I’ve never seen it so apparent in any other band. Is so in your faces it’s just distracting.
yup - it's a head-scratcher. very unnatural and just annoying. not a fan.
I was at MSG IN 69 72 and 75
This 2024 is a joke
You're fortunate to have seen them performing at their best. There was the drug and Jack Daniels fuelled Keith who may or may not have survived the show - it was like the old days of grand prix racing.
@stes3061 Wow! My goodness, I feel fortunate just to read your post. So, you haven't seen them recently. Another cellphone review. Priceless.
@@user-tr4jj9pt7x If you had a choice to see them now or in 1972 , which would you take?
@@sg5127 1981 with Stu and Bill, but what's done is done. They were, somehow, magic in 2013. I'll be very happy to see them in 2024 in Cleveland, mid tour. I just hope they play more from their excellent new album.
Perfect, so to compare with them just look at a picture of you then on 69 72 or 75 with one you took yesterday... see the difference ? They still want to play because they are just enjoying it...
Would be better if Ron could stop putting his hand in the air and back on the guitar neck...and if Keith stopped his bum bending notes soli. Rythm is the max he can do now 😢
Too old
The criticism of Keith is totally uncalled for. I don't see any slip in performance. They and he specifically sound great.
Correct
Agree with ya!