How Hicks Survives In Aliens Colonial Marines: Stasis Interrupted
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Gearbox's explanation of how Hicks survived the events of Alien 3 taken from Aliens: Colonial Marines Stasis Interrupted DLC. Watch and make up your own minds as to whether this now cannon retcon could fit into the story and do the character justice.
I'll take this over Hicks dying like a punk in Alien3. The one thing that I admired Michael Biehn for is for playing hardball with those jackasses in Alien3. When they asked to use his likeness on the computer to show the report of his death, Michael Biehn said "Yeah, you can use my photo, but it's going to cost you a lot of money."
Michael Biehn is still a badass and always will be.
I read that the first draft for alien 3 waas actually going to be set on earth and that hicks was going to be the main character with ripley taking a bit of a back seat, something like the company ends up spreading the xeno's on earth and hicks and ripley tryin to get away again, then alien 4 was going to continue that story but as ripley in led again and this time it was ripley, hicks and some rebels rising up to take down the company. how do you think that would have turned out??
CommanderShepardXII
One of the original drafts for Alien 3 was for Newt (now older and more experienced) and Hicks going and kicking Xeno ass all over the place. Ripley was going to have a smaller part but the movie was going to center around Newt and Hicks. But the studio wanted Ripley and they killed off Hicks. Biehn was already signed on so he pretty much demanded his pay regardless of him being in it.
I believe there is an "else where" comic that was taken from this particular draft of the script.
yves0010 aaah reet i didnt now the newt part, that would have been awesome man. yea the studio fucked up after aliens tbh but also as much as i like aliens i would have rather seen ridley do the 2nd over cameron, i feel like scott had an idea of where he would want to take it and that would hav been intresting i mean clearly he didnt intend there to be a queen and a hive etc, was still good though i loved it in fact and hicks is my fav character
CommanderShepardXII any alien movie that doesn't have ripley as its main is a horrible terrible idea. no offense but hicks was a run of the mill rambo, nothing even remotely interesting about the character.
Right, same here! I prefer a live Hicks 'canon' over the ignominy of his death in Alien3.
Good to see that Hicks still lives sadly Newt is still dead
Dark Horse Aliens comics beg to differ
Zelousmarineinspace Those comics are terrible tho (I own them btw)
What's gotta suck more is Turk dies instead of Hicks
I don't care how bad Colonial Marines was written, I'll still accept this as Canon, Hicks was one of my favorite characters. Then again Hicks was played by Michael Biehn, so that maybe why as well. :P
DravenWolfe I always like to think of the original unused ending to aliens canon where ripley and hick live on earth and take care of newt as their kid (yes that really was an idea for the ending
AND THEN WHAT?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?
@@Oisincolledge And the two make a good couple
I would rather have hicks be dead then to have this canon . I would love for him to live of course . But not like this . It’s like keeping a dead brain person alive who’s in contest pain .
Holy crap!!! I forgot all about this. Funny enough none of the comments showed up until the recent one. So sorry guys, I wasn't ignoring you it just didn't come up
For all of the problems this game has, this retcon is one thing I'm totally okay with.
Great thing. Ridley Scott approved the whole story along with Alien: Isolation, Alien: Out of the Shadows, Alien: Sea of Sorrows, Alien: River of Pain and Aliens: Fire and Stone.
Why the hell everyone's complaining ?! Hicks is a damn good character and actor, we may have a good movie or a videogame with him, aren't you happy to have him alive ?!
Not when the story behind him being magically alive is far-fetched to the point of being cartoonish.
My only issue with this senario is Hicks went into cryostasis in his underwear at the end of ALIENS.
Obviously he grew a pair of pants
I love that everyone takes issue with how Hick's survives, while my biggest beef remains the same as in Alien 3: why, on a state of the art military starship is there no damn fire suppression system for this exact sort of emergency?
Lets go even further. How did a xenomorph egg get on the Sulaco in the first place?
@@Iriamu-Guillermo a xeno from the legato put it there?
@@Iriamu-Guillermo they say Bishop might have put the egg but i think it was the Queen right before it impales Bishop.
@@Iriamu-Guillermo they say Bishop might have put the egg but i think it was the Queen right before it impales Bishop.
I heard Michael biehn didn’t give it his full preformance because he felt like the developers themselves weren’t given it their fullest . And I believe him. And I’m not mad at him. If it were the developers who made Alien isolation . Biehn would have been giving his full attention and acting ability.
That explains why his acting feels lackluster. It’s always confused me because he’s not a bad actor by any stretch, even in his recent roles.
They should have never killed him off in alien 3 or newt. That film ruined the whole series.
There was actually an unused idea for an ending for aliens where hicks and ripley live on earth and take care of newt as their child (yes really) so I like to think that that was the ending
totally agree
I agree
the comics get it right
they kinda had to unless you don't mind recasting. Michael Biehn had a schedule conflict, the actor that played newt; her mother wouldn't let her return to do another because she did not approve of aliens movie.
Wow.. i didn't know that they still made games for PS2.
Really? I thought it was a PS1 game.
+razdaz
Pretty good graphics for PS1 game
விஷ்ணு கார்த்திக் anyone can tell its n64 graphics
Kieron m more like Sega genisis
Buuuuuurn! XD
Very comforting watching Alien 3 now knowing that Hicks is still up on the Sulaco trying to get to where Ripley is.
WRONG!!!! in alien 3 the computer says the stasis interrupted speech in a British accent, yet it's American now?!
and it was said way too fast in the film it was more robotic like m.o.t.h.e.r from the first film.
+Kyle Huxley well it doesn't matter now. This game ISN'T canon.
I hate the fact that this is canon (fox itself approved it)
for me it will NEVER be canon anyway
Obscure Entertainment nah this is canon
Alien 3 however...
@@obscureentertainment8303 Yes it is canon.
while seeing & listening to Hicks, I can't stop comparing him with Rex Power Colt. Especially when he says "No!".
Love Michael Biehn and the character of Hicks, so this was a brilliant way to bring him back to life! :)
Thank you SO MUCH for uploading this :) This is exactly what I wanted to see. THANK GOD gearbox had Hicks survive. One of Alien 3's biggest mistakes was killing off Hicks/Michael Biehn.
Hicks being brought back was also approved by both Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox.
Only Alien and Aliens happened, rest is horse shit to me
Why skip out on Mark Verheiden epic Hicks and Newt trilogy.
Totally agree.
I am a die hard fan of this season, and this sequence is so ill faithful the story its hard to believe it was made.
Though that being said, if you hear Michael Biehn's voice acting in say Blood Dragon vs this you can see how much he hated the final product.
I'm sure he acted his best. His voice in Aliens is pretty monotone anyway. There is an Alien 5 coming out possibly after Alien Covenant. This may disregard Alien 3 and Resurrection as a different timeline. We may yet see Ripley, Hicks and Newt in a new movie, set 30 years after events of Aliens.
He already said the developers didn't care so he didn't.
+misstinwhistle1 stop dreaming. this will never happen.
Well don't forget, it was Gearbox's lack of interest and effort that killed and dumbed a possible good story about Hicks surviving.
Michael Biehn admitted to only giving a half hearted performance because he felt the developers lacked passion for the project
I love how a trained marine points at an ally with a gun, while his finger is on the trigger -- good job Gearbox.
Searched down to see if someone would point this out. Stupid AF.
Please this game in itself makes Alien 3 look like a masterpiece.
Well, (sighs) at least Michael Biehn put SOME effort.
He didn't enjoy it though.
Prometheus occurs in the same universe of Alien. Ridley Scott, creator of the whole franchise, has confirmed this countless times.
No... Just... No! Canon? This??
Yeah. theres no way I'm ever going to consider this nonsense cannon. FOX should have disowned it as cannon as soon as it emerged that the story was a complete clusterfuck of stupid ideas.
Stedal1978 Uh huh so are you excepting the newer canon with The Engineers overpowering the Queen and putting there arms into her gob? The XenoHumans Thing mock ups? Captain Brackett and Luisa escaping Acheron and planning on taking down Wey-Yu? Ridley Scott new "Alien" his making for Prometheus 2? Just incase you been keeping up to date here.
CplDwayneHicks11 If something makes sense whilst not contradicting already established MOVIE canon then I would consider thinking about including it in what I consider cannon. I've not read or seen the things you are talking about but anything in comics has to be taken with a pinch of salt because the Alien movies have contradicted comic stories so many times that EU novels and comics have to be changed and re-written. However, nothing in Colonial Marines makes sense. The plot holes are gaping and appear to be written by someone with either no sense of Alien universe history or by someone who just wanted Hicks to be alive no matter what the cost to decent story telling. Also, I'd be interested in any link you can provide where Ridley Scott actually says Colonial Marines is canon, or any other article where FOX state Ridley has any authority over what in the EU is considered canon.
Stedal1978 Like to hear your plotholes. As Aliens: Colonial Marines Technical Manual does mention Weyland-Yutani finding Derelict Ship on LV-426 that survived the explosion at the end of Aliens. Michael Biehn face on that body was not seen at all so he never died.
The film canon has already been destroyed as of this year. River of Pain has changed Aliens around even more things on what happened offscreen. Ah only one thing I mentioned there was linked to the Dark Horse Comics Fire and Stone series. So you not really have not been paying much attention to the recent Titan Books trilogy which have been made canon by Fox.
I've provided many links below to the new canon to people with what Fox have done with Dark Horse Comics and Games and the Titan Books this year.
Ridley Scott has mentioned about getting away from the "Gods" and "Dragons". Fox hasn't dropped Colonial Marines brand at all and Dark Horse Comics would have out right said it but they didn't. Ridley gave his blessing to Aliens: Colonial Marines and he has the final say as long nothing effects his squeal is that not enough? Fox's Licensing Division after all.
If you don't want the Aliens universe to expand with new stories its fine if you want the four films and nothing else. I'm sure you are a die hard Aliens fan too and sure you know that writers and even the people behind Isolation have mentioned Fox's Aliens Universal Bible and the amount of data they have stored.
www.scified.com/site/aliensvspredator/exclusive-interview-with-dark-horse-comics-about-their-new-avp--prometheus-comics
Is there a possibility of seeing Corporal Dwayne Hicks in a follow up story to Aliens: Colonial Marines?
PAUL TOBIN: It’s a big universe out there.
How involved was Ridley Scott on this project?
PAUL TOBIN: From a broad overview mode. He’s the final say, of course. He never stopped by the writer’s summits, though. More cake for us.
www.avpgalaxy.net/2014/10/30/avpgalaxy-interviews-christopher-golden/
Seeing the other side to Aliens with River of Pain. On how will connect which its does to the Fire and Stone series.
forum.alienslegacy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14610
James A. Moore the writer of Alien: Sea of Sorrows the second canon Titan book to be made this year. He has mentioned on what FOX are up too.
"The premise of the novel is to offer a sort of "reboot" to the series, that honors all of the things that have gone before and establishes a continuity that keeps all of the previous situations intact, including the dissolution of Weyland-Yutani, the devastation of Europe at the end of A:R, ALL of the movies and events as well as several video games. After the first draft of the novel was written Fox went over it with a fine-toothed comb and several changes were made. [...] i did not make major changes to the Xenomorphs. That might be something that happens later on, but for now there are extremely strict rules because Fox wants to UN-muddy the waters that have been muddied again and again by comics, other books, etc. Ultimately nothing that happens in the book would have happened without either a) the express permission of Fox or b) the express DESIRE of Fox. in point of fact, the initial concept behind the novel came from the powers that be at Fox. That doesn't mean I didn't plot the beast out, but the concept of a descendant of Ripley was theirs, as was the empathic link."
screenrant.com/prometheus-2-blade-runner-sequel-ridley-scott/
David going to play a even bigger role.
www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=25024
Aliens Fire and Stone #4.
www.scified.com/site/aliensvspredator/could-20th-century-fox-be-planning-to-retcon-the-alien-saga
Fox are moving on with new stories.
www.co-optimus.com/article/9085/aliens-colonial-marines-preview.html
Ridley Scott Blessing.
www.slashfilm.com/prometheus-2-new-alien/
No Gods and Dragons for Prometheus 2.
facebook.com/Hiyatoys
Fox are using the Colonial Marines license for next year with HiyaToys so expect Winter, Cruz, Reid ect figures.
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The Strongest Hint that Hicks' will return as this cover by Dark Horse Comics. Hicks never had any Bluetooth headset in Aliens nor SI nor CM and his wearing a new green shirt.
Right, I'm at work and can't read it all right now but I'm struggling to see any direct quote from Ridley regarding his blessing that CM is something he considers cannon. Regarding the plot holes, firstly, Hadleys Hope WAS nuked by a 30 megaton explosion, there would be nothing left. Secondly, hicks was wearing different cloths to what he went to sleep in at the end of the movie, there are many more that I can list when I get home if need be.
This facehugger took a shot on the body, the Facehugger on Kane had it's leg cut, which was nowhere near being able to drip any material onto Kane's head.
Gunshots also create larger and more bloody wounds than a surgical cut, and any bleeding on the body of the hugger would drip down onto Riply's face, going right through it and, at best, severely maiming her by putting a hole through her head.
Sprayed blood from a shot doesn't only go in the direction of fire either, it goes all over.
It has to do with the British/English casting system. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 were made in the U.K. and there is some weird rule there that gives actors control over the use of their likenesses in any products related to the films they worked in. In the USA everything belongs to the studio, in the UK is not the case...
Idk if Hicks being alive is canon but if so we should really get a series about him 🙏
It doesn't fit in with the established gestation time of the series up until that point, Burke would still have the hugger on, thats why cameron kept it out.
I always wanted to have a cocooned Cpl. Hudson to appear on camera when Ripley is racing through the hive to find Newt. There's a deleted scene of her finding Burke cocooned. It's VERY rare and many thought it to be a rumor; This was proved wrong as the scene is included as a bonus feature in the "Alien Anthology" blu-ray collection. Strange that James Cameron never re-inserted that scene along with the other deleted scenes into his Director's Cut of "Aliens". Doesn't affect the pacing at all.
I don't know what distresses me most - the abysmal 'explanation' or the fact that there are people who defend it! I know Alien 3 messed up, but this attempted retcon of its incoherent set-up makes it look even more ridiculous. Gotta love the way Hicks and redshirt both have matching chest wounds - niiiiice work devs.
They REALLY SHOULD USE at least part of this has a remake of Alien 3 and 4, except change it so The Weyland Corporation steals Newt and Ripley's Cryo-sleep pods and instead of dying; are mysteriously hauled off somewhere unknown by the time Hicks wakes up, thus giving Weyland Yutani the chance to remove the Facehugger and have an Alien chestburster inside Ripley to be removed and toyed around with. Then they should have a new team of Colonial Marines put together in this Alien 3 remake, with Hicks leading of course, find the Weyland head-Quarter's fight them off and rescue Riply and Newt!. With a minor Predator cameo of course just has a throwback to the AvP games NOT THEIR MOVIES *WHY WHY WHY* if only they could.....it's not like the actor's aren't old enough for 20 years or so so have passed in cryo-sleep like the beginning of the 2nd film.
"No"
-Hicks (2013)
The shittiest part about this dlc is that we don't get to play as Hicks. And I really love the part when the scientist picks up a Pulse Rifle and instantly knows how to handle every fucking weapon in the game. Damn you to hell, Gearbox.
Maybe. The hugger on Kane didn't continue to bleed beyond the initial spurt.
from watching different vids i see that hicks has shorts on but when ur able to move around he has pants weird
LongshotStudios Well, you just pointed out another piece of evidence that shows how Gearbox didn't give a shit about this game.
There's a really great black and white graphic novel by Dark Horse comics where Hicks and Newt lived and he has to get her off earth before its totally overrun (there is also a color version that changed their names to accommodate the trash that is Alien3). The 6 part comic book series, which is also a graphic novel, was done by Verheiden and Nelson. It gives Hicks and Newt a good story.
Yes. It was written by Mark Verheiden.
After Alien 3, the names of the characters were changed, but happily, the original version was rereleased with the characters we love, Newt and Hicks.
If I remember correctly, Ripley showed up in the Earth War series.
It’s nice to have an alternative to Alien 3.
I use to have that comic. Loved Earth War.
Lazy storytelling that's not only disrespectful to the source material but also riddled with mistakes and convenient coincidences.
just another opinion of an Alien fanboy but Aliens 3 was a good take on it... I know, I wanted more Marines in it but that was all James Cameron ...so of course they had to give it a different spin..
So just like you I did not like it because I wanted more of the same. Colonial Marines and smart guns!!! so if that's where you coming from then yeah, Alien 3 sucked but if you are open minded I think you would enjoy it too..
the new movies, Promet and Covenant just added more questions and no answers...those movies were dumb as shit.. that last one pissed me off and made women especially, look like idiots... you gonna lock someone inside, then come back in and SLIP?? and you just gonna lie there in fear and hold a knife in front of you instead of getting up and kicking the shit out of it...that's not a strong woman to me..but hey, I sorta agree women for the most part aren't as good as men when it comes to certain situations but c'mon..these are supposed to be well trained whatever the fuck they were..military scientist...that woman who locked up that other woman in the first act pissed me off so much I watched the rest of it in disgust. Ripley they are not!!
So stupid. In Alien 3, Ripley would have realized this is what happened when she accessed the data from the ship's computer.
I haven't played this game. I hear people hate it, but it obviously has one redeeming factor right here
so people would rather have one of their fav characters die of screen with no explanation and forgotten about then have him alive and in a "terrible" story that at least gives some closure?
Interesting.
At least his death of screen was handled with some decent writing. I'd rather him stay dead then be brought back in fan fic level trash.
+Stedal1978 true
Roberto you're stupid
You have closure and an explanation. He was killed by a support beam in the crash. Case closed. Welcome to the Lovecraftian universe of Alien. If by 'closure', you mean resurrecting him in a hilariously choreographed fight sequence, so that he can conveniently turn up on LV426, spout some horribly acted dialogue, tip the hat to the woeful AVP franchise, and run around playing Call of Duty.... well, sorry, that's just fanfiction as one contributor has already noted. Really, really bad fanfiction. I had closure. At least I could remember him as a badass before, who was tragically killed in a quirk of fate aboard the Sulaco. Now we can all remember Biehn's last performance as this wooden garbage. Thanks fanboys!
Alien3 was waaaaaay better than Aliens
LOL I noticed that but actually that is not an error since the acid ridden outfit was part of his military uniform and USCM BDU (Battle Dress Uniform). Maybe he just did not have a spare change...
For all of you "Aliens 3 and 4 didn't happen."
Well it did happen, live with it darlings, because it had fucking Sigourney Weaver in it.
THIS didn't happen tho, because that "bullet" that shot the facehugger would have gone through the facehugger and into ripley's skull, also there were no bullet holes in the Alien 3 scene where they show here cryotube.
Alien 3 is a really good movie, it has really gory horror scenes, and mostly all, spooky scenes aswell that makes you cringe, so yeah ladies and gentlemen that can't accept the truth, it did happen, fucking live with it.
Nope who cares about you about what Weaver thinks. "Oh I don't like guns and Hicks and Newt must die......" Many years later she going to be the lead star in The ExpendaBelles alongside Sylvester Stallone!!!! Shooting Humans is alright!!!!! But not Aliens?!?!?!?
Oh wait you can't tell me why she couldn't team up with Michael Biehn in the third movie?! Oh Yeah Thats Right That Big Fat Ego She Had On Her Wig!!!!
CplDwayneHicks11
seems like someone is butthurt, teehee.
ShimmySchimeon For you saying this didn't happen, it actually did. The game is fully canon with the movies, so if something doesn't match up precisely, it's a retcon. Live with it, darling.
athest7
Then please explain to me how Ripley didn't get the bullet through her face, and how the acid didn't burn her face or anything?
ShimmySchimeon Because hand-wave. But that doesn't mean it isn't canon.
I actually liked alien 3. I liked the sheer nihilism of it. After everything they went through in the first 2 movies they all died anyway.
It didn't land on her, it spilled outside of the cryotube.
Didn’t Hicks go into Stasis without a shirt?
Call it whatever you want, Hicks is now alive. If that's all this game will ever give me, i'll take it with such an inter-ear grin on my face, you'll think i'm the joker.
If the creators of this game were going to branch off in their own direction anyway, they should have let Ripley and Newt live. It would have been a lot more redeemable...
Since I'm a fan of Corporal Hicks, I prefer this as sequel for Aliens.
i dont care what anyone says this fucking game is NOT canon!
yes it is, get over it
Actually it is. It was confirmed by James Cameron. If the DIRECTOR of Aliens says it's canon it's hard to go against that
I have my own fan theory about the Alien movies. And the logic behind it is sound.
Fuck Alien 3, i wish Newt didn´t die , Alien 3 sucks
Even though in the Dark Horse comics they survive
BUUULLLSHIT! their deaths were the only things wrong with that movie
Symbolically, the death of hicks and newt meant ripley was truly alone, on a planet with murderers, and rapists, and to find out that not only does she have to face off with a much more deadly xenomorph, she has a queen inside her, and considering all the shit David fintcher went through, writing the script, while shooting, so on and so forth, I'm surprised something watchable came out of it, it has the elements of a alien film, claustrophobic settings, gritty atmosphere, and one alien that picks them off one by one, if anything, alien resurrection is the worst, it's basically a dark comedy parody, there was no horror, just gore, and weak laughs, I wonder what it would of been like if joss weaton directed it as well as wrote it.
tgiacin435 Also if this was even half of the script they were going to make the third alien movie out of it would have been way worse than anything in Alien 3 put to celluloid (Alien 3 is a FINE film btw).
Alien 3 was ok, anyone who is a true fan of alien franchise like all films. the reson it would have been weird for Newt to survive is because in the real world Six years had passed. how oudl it be that Ripley is in cryo for 57 years and doesnt age, but yet newt is in cryo for a couple weeks and suddenly became a teenager. it wouldnt make sense at all
The facehugger got shot in the legs, it remember in Alien where they try to laser it of an acid spills on the floor? That's the same thing that happend here. The face hugger must have survived, Ripley was pregnant in the third movie with the queen.
I guess it makes sense that hicks didn't die
Woah read the description above someone angry. Was very happy with this even though Newt couldn't be saved. Still got those comics!
The thing I don't like about this is that not only is it a bad game, it had the possibility of completely retconning the terrible film Alien 3 - and instead of finishing that, it starts and stops. We could have had Ripley and/or Newt back.
I hardly doubt that a DLC game expansion that is free for people who got the season pass may be legally viable for a lawsuit.
Nope. Legitimate criticism. If they couldn't even be bothered to listen to the scene where Bishop voices the Sulaco, it's EXTREMELY telling as to how little attention they paid.
A lot like how Bishop 2's armed staff/guards all have COMPLETELY different costumes during the later cinematic we see Ripley fall to her death.
I am an Aliens fan who liked the game. Live with it.
How Alien 3 should have begun.
I'm not too sure about that because a significant period of time had passed since Burke was attacked and cocooned after sealing the door in the fight scene that takes place in medical (the one where Hudson is taken through the floor). I believe since that scene and the point where Ripley goes to rescue Newt is quite a while. The facehugger probably had enough time to impregnate Burke and then fall off and die. Of course, that's just my opinion.
I like this it explains alot plus hicks is one of the best so yeah
it was a queen facehugger, they give two embryos, one queen embryo and a drone embryo (probably to protect the queen as the dog xenomorph didn't killed ripley)
It’s is canon,even the developers and Ridley Scott confirmed this
I know, it's kind of funny because by the look on Ripley's face you can tell she really doesn't give a darn XD
Litteraly, this whole cutscene is P L O T C O N V E N I E N C E
I watched the credits and I saw the DLC cast and dev team, it was Dark Side Team. They worked on the main game too.
Actually it didn't. Gearbox wanted to ignore Alien 3 and do a direct sequel, but Fox told them that that Alien 3 was canon and needed to be acknowledged, so they just retconned Hicks' death and left it at that.
The about description on this is fantastic... perfect. I'd say how this is nonsense and all that, but it's called out so much better just above.
They shoot Ripley in the face! Even if the Facehugger had take the bullet her face would be melting! Randy you just stopped Alien 3!
Why is every1 hating on this DLC? it was fucking amazing, really fun and a huge improvement on campaign that came with the game by far and yet people are still picking on the small things. Perhaps ripleys face got narrowly missed? did that thought ever cross any1s mind? how else would she still be alive? Sorry that the flight recorder said nothing about hicks cryo pod being opened, but you can't assume to know what the recorder & wont record. does it matter? we know why hicks is still alive now
I dunno, people call this lazy storytelling but Alien 3 was lazy storytelling. Killng Hicks and Newt after all they went through in Aliens seemed like a waste of great characters. Th makers of this game are not the only ones who wish Alien 3 never happened...
i totally agree with you.
+Litshttam Deaths add realism when done realistically. Both Alien 3 and Colonial Marines had piss poor writing and senseless deaths.
Litshttam Alien 3 had multiples scripts and the studio started filming without a proper final script. The final script ended up being a smash of Ward's and Twohy's scripts, with a small touch from Giller and Hill. A complete mess.
@degree7 Tell me more about this 8ft tall Alien creature which grows to the size of a man without any biomass on-board a space freighter. Tell me more about the evil corporation which sends said freighter crew to their deaths on a planet with an alien warning beacon, and then 35ish years later conveniently colonises said planet and is completely oblivious to said aliens, evil plot or beacon. But don't worry, Alien 3 alone is the height of plot-hole ridden garbage.
The Only things i liked about this game were the boatloads of Aliens references, This DLC, and having my favorite Aliens Marine ( Hicks ) survive. But hopefully in Alien 5 they somehow make it so that Ripley, Newt, and Hicks survive ( And possibly Bishop), then it would be great. But its hard to say considering Alien 3 Killed off Ripley, Newt, and Bishop and attempted to Kill off hicks. If they can possibly ignore Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, And take off strait after Aliens.
I would honestly like to know what part of copyright law dictates that, I mean honestly. You are allowed to put people or things who resemble this or that as a form of substituting. It's exactly why The Fifth Element game had character's faces merely resemble Milla Jovovich and Bruce Willis, as opposed to featuring their actual likenesses, which Kalisto wasn't licensed to - it was done in order to keep the game models recognizable while bypassing the lack of licenses to the actors' likenesses.
This really is more of a fanfiction/what-if scenario rather than an official continuation. I don't care what Fox or Gearbox say. If they don't care about canonical accuracy then their Word means nothing to me.
While the game without a doubt has it's flaws, I do like the story and have no problem accepting it as canon. Especially since Hicks is still alive!
*EDIT* It's worth noting that the script for Colonial Marines and Stasis Interrupted was in fact approved by 20th Century Fox. Interpret that as you wish, but as I already said, in my personal opinion, the story wasn't that bad.
I mean, think about this for a second before judging it. We're comparing a story that's being told through a FPS game to one of the greatest movies of all time. It's never quite gonna live up to expectations.
Alien died as a series for me when Hicks died in Alien 3. I can still remember sitting in the cinema with my dad seeing the movie thinking “fuck this” when they declared Newt and Hicks deceased. I’m still waiting for a deep study on the fact that Alien, Predator and the Terminator all have fallen from grace because of idiot scripts and ideas. Alien and Aliens is the series to me. The rest is bullshit. So even if this game was a big failure i will still remember this clip as a positive thing.
Same here. Everything that followed Aliens was utter garbage.
I would’ve preferred Hicks & Newt surviving the crash on the prison planet then fighting the Dog/Bull Alien…. But this game was gold for a retcon 👍👍
Continuity error 1 - dlc contradicts the main campaign. It was the 4 cryo pods on the right not the 4 in the middle 1:35
Continuity error 2 - Hicks suddenly changes into a new black outfit then when you start playing he changes back to his acid ridden clothes 2:32
Continuity error 3 - 0:37 hicks went into cryo covered in bandages only wearing shorts.
Continuity error 4 - The face huger had left Ripley before the cryo went to the EEV 2:00
Bonus. The alarm voice was British in alien 3
Hudson should of been alive. yeah he got dragged down but he would be fun to play with after all he's the ultimate badass
Everything after Aliens is an atrocity... from my pov only the chain of events in the comics exist....
Have you not seen the third movie?
How did the alien egg get aboard the sulaco? I mean the egg should be on the dropship where Bishop rescues Hicks, Ripley and Newt. (That's where the Alien Queen was hiding). At the end of the movie Newt, Bishop , Ripley and Hicks get into cryosleep NOT in the dropship but in another part of the SULACO where it was basically impossible a egg was laid.
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Turk and Samwell Stone proceeded to board the docked USS Sulaco via the umbilical as they been followed by Xenomorphs from outside the umbilical. You can see this all in-game.
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so in a way, it eliminates the "Xeno queen smuggling a royal facehugger" theory?
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Yes very much so.
I like this part, now we can pretend that Ripley in Alien 5 is the clone-Ripley and that wil make Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection still relevant.
I prefer this for Hicks over the fate he ended up getting
You got the name right.
Now they just need to release some DLC to explain why Ripley (and facehugger) didn't instantly die from getting rifle fire IN HER FACE.
How did the bullet hit the alien and the acid didn’t effect riply and how did the alien not die after being shot
The better question is how the the broken pod and ripely survive the re-entry?
If they're going to use a completely different costume, then they should have planned around it and avoided any shots of them. Would've been simple enough to do. As for the Sulaco, getting an English actress (or someone who can do a decent impression of one) should have been easy.
What a lazy way to overwrite what happened to hicks. Didn't the prison crew run a DNZ test to see if it was Hicks?
Growing up in the '80's and loving both the first two pictures, I can't understand the hate for this. It was obviously put together by people who liked the only two movies in the franchise that actually mattered. Anyone who defends the third picture doesn't know shit. Hicks was meant to be the main character for the third picture in one of the early scripts. It's a shame the studio killed him off.
I know someone from the game said it was "canon", but just who exactly has the right to state what is and what is not cannon in the Alien series? It hardly has a single creator who was "the source" or who could say what stays and what goes, there were plenty of writers and directors involved over all the movies. I don't think even Ridley Scott reserves himself any right to state what's cannon in the series and what's not. I will never consider a video game cannon to a movie franchise.
What does "arguement" mean?
let neill blomkamp take care of this franchise.
Nobody can take care of this franchise now. The Alien is a big, predictable insect with a cliched life-cycle. It isn't alien anymore. It isn't scary anymore. Nothing short of genius-level creativity could fix these problems.
Freezing Sorbet I agree. Not even Martin Scorsese (if he were to specify in Horror/Action movies) could save the Alien franchise. It is ruined forever, and we can thank Fox for that. Actually, wait, Fox losing the rights to this franchise could fix the problem, but that will probably never happen.
No 4 is right, the face hugger was dead long before she went into the EEV cause i've seen alien 3 more than enough times to know that
In Alien 3 you never EVER see the crushed Turk's head... only his mangled torso. And according to Fox everything in the game is canon, so your argument is invalid.
Pitchturd. Niiice. To start, we should get rid of the wikipedia page about the game. When somebody tries to retype it, we just delete it again. We can do that, right?
Can somebody please tell me which of the Aliens/AVP movies and games are cannon?
It's a mess. Let's start: None of the games except for Colonial Marines and Alien Isolation are canon. However, due to bad reception, A-CM and Alien 3 (even if they're considered part of the story) won't be used and referenced in future movies. Movies outside the quadrilogy are considered non-canon, exception made for Prometheus and the upcoming Alien 5. None of the novels are canon. The three 2014 books are canon. Comic books are not canon
Don't worry about canon, man. Just enjoy the films for the individual works of art that they are. For instance, the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 or the Director's Cut of Alien are probably not canon, but I infinitely prefer them and - for me - they just are Alien and Alien 3. Alien Resurrection and the AVP franchise are canon, but I completely ignore their existence. Its happier like this. :)
Good now add the movie of Aliens and compare it with this game till it connects with Alien3.
It be awesome if they did this in the time alien 3 got released and alien 3 could've been a spin off movie
This makes more sense
Given how much I disliked Alien 3, I will take Hicks survival!