Hey pat, I know you just purchased the e&c swing arm extension, but you should take a look at midwest mini mods swing arm, it's an entire whole new swing arm that doesn't use the stock arm at all, it's the best swing arm on the market. When you get a chance check it out.
I was just about to say that those are the freewheels that come apart and you didn't even get it installed and it did just that. lol. The ones that fit over a normal BMX freewheel that's what you want I have 2 motors grossly overpowered doing sends to a 20" fat tire on my mx650. I assure you that is not the largest controller upgrade you can fit on a Razor since I have that and another one on mine. I don't do sngle motors and I don't buy kits or premade wiring harnesses . I don't use giant oversized connectors made for solar panel setups when an 8mm connector will more than suffice. That controller will not pull 330A...at 72v. At 48v it will and that is actually in the specs. Battery amps that is what matters. Phase amps are bullshit. Battery amps, line amps, wire amps , whatever you want to call them, that is the metric that matters. So that in reality is probably...maybe 180A controller. How do we know this, because of that little green could magically triple wattage there would be one in every household don't you think? 330A my ass. Put an actual ammeter on your battery and see what is really happening. Phase amps at basically 1/3 of battery amps. Well if those are phase amps then voltage times phase amps gives you phase watts then. I don't hear anyone mentioning that. This is a sales technique being used to inflate numbers. How come all the companies are doing that, becayse they are all the same 2 companies working under a myriad of names. It may actually just be one at this point. Kunray and Siaecosys. Sia is QSmotor, Sabvoton, Fardriver, Kelly, Votol, the shiny new Sotion, Nbpower, the list goes on. Kunray is now Vevor was Tbvetchi, and a bunch of other ones too. Anything you have heard of is these 2 companies. Electro and Co is some gnarly bike dudes that figured out that these vendors will custom make small batches of custom controllers and custom wound motors as long as you hit their minimum order. (Think Alibaba.) You get a controller that is pre-tuned. So it's Beats Audio for controllers. Bears Audio was just some EQ settings. They actually put weights in the headphones to make them feel valuable. The pre-tuned setup is just a version of the firmware with the settings Electro and Co has picked already flashed to the controller. Now you have a bunch of middle aged guys reliving their childhoods trying to pop wheelies and outdo each other in some kind of controller amperage arms race and they have no idea how to tube a controller or how an electric motor even works. Well magic of course. It's a magic green box that triples wattage. No. That's not how electricity works. If amperage goes up then voltage goes down. You cannot make actual wattage out of nowhere, and there is always a loss of power in every circuit. These vendors are full of shit. Chinese metric phase wattage means nothing. It's a work of fiction, masterfully told by all the suckers that are buying into it. There are so many channels doing the same upgrades. When you buy everything with all the customizing done for you on arrival where's the skill in that? What did you learn? What flavor are you adding to this mixture? These are bolt ons. I see the electro and Co stuff come out and I'm just like...again? You are the first guy I saw get a snow bike right on the first try. The Electro guys tried several years in a row and didn't have the success you did first try. lol So savor that. That was good content, you should have gotten way more hits on that one. I like your channel but a lot of times it like the same content I've seen in another garage or even in your own garage. Dude, throw in something we haven't seen. Have a crazy idea and then make that thing. It doesn't have to perfect at all, but it needs to be not this cookie cutter type content. I don't want to see your channel evaporate because it's like every other pit bike channel but with no original mods happening. I have a guy right here in my town that has already done all these EandC mods, he has videos for every gear combination you can think of for that bike. Yes they make a 15 tooth front. Once you go to t8f the world becomes your oyster. On Amazon search for HSCTI and it will pop right up. At the end of the description it will say (color: 15). They make it look like you get every size in the listing and the pricing is all over the place because that how these Chinese vendors operate.
I appreciate all the feedback. Thanks for tuning in and giving you input. The snowbike is STILL my favorite project and I always look forward to more unique build like that. Lmk if you have any further suggestions.
👍🏽 what’s up Pat? Yes life happens. Sometimes you gotta put projects on hold. Happens to me all the time 😂since I’m on a budget, anyway I just subscribed very cool content.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Hey Pat just wanted to ask you a quick question. I just purchased a kit from electro and co and I was wondering how long do these parts usually take to ship. Are they within the listed shipping time on the website or do they usually ship later then what electro and co says??
@@jeffreyheineman4166 hit or miss, depending on the product. Small things like sprockets and extensions may only take a few days. Newer higher demand items like the noisy cricket controller kit can take 2 months. Usually says it on the listing page though
Dang I'm about to start selling those swing arm sets for $200 they hella overcharging. We should have number 35 chain set for like $80 ish very soon as well!
@@Razorcrew_Cole well I have a completely untouched SX500 in storage I can do an install series on budget alternative options. Saw you have a bunch of pre wired switches etc as well.
@@PatOutdoors Right on dude! I'm not to a point where I can fully give away expensive things like for you I could maybe give you a throttle or something! Otherwise discounts the best I can for any exposure on your channel a lot of my followers on TikTok always mention you! Much appreciated by the community brother! Take a look at the site and let me know if there's something you're interested in and we can try to work something out for sure whenever
@@ThangaLang94 what adapter kit and rotor are you using to fit Brembo calipers on a Razor? The Lil bit is definitely more user friendly and simpler.. I just got the fardriver for higher output, but it’s bulky and harder to program.
Hey pat, I know you just purchased the e&c swing arm extension, but you should take a look at midwest mini mods swing arm, it's an entire whole new swing arm that doesn't use the stock arm at all, it's the best swing arm on the market. When you get a chance check it out.
Can’t wait to see a top speed run with this setup. Starting my build soon
Your videos help so much when i was building mine!
Seriously
Was just watching the mx650 build before you dropped this, cool build man👍
@@_no_9671 thanks!
Cool bike, bro!
Awesome video! Love seeing the razor videos
love the custom builds ❤️🔥🫡
I picked up a 12t #35h sprocket from Oryxearth 😀
I was just about to say that those are the freewheels that come apart and you didn't even get it installed and it did just that. lol. The ones that fit over a normal BMX freewheel that's what you want I have 2 motors grossly overpowered doing sends to a 20" fat tire on my mx650.
I assure you that is not the largest controller upgrade you can fit on a Razor since I have that and another one on mine. I don't do sngle motors and I don't buy kits or premade wiring harnesses . I don't use giant oversized connectors made for solar panel setups when an 8mm connector will more than suffice.
That controller will not pull 330A...at 72v. At 48v it will and that is actually in the specs. Battery amps that is what matters. Phase amps are bullshit. Battery amps, line amps, wire amps , whatever you want to call them, that is the metric that matters. So that in reality is probably...maybe 180A controller. How do we know this, because of that little green could magically triple wattage there would be one in every household don't you think? 330A my ass. Put an actual ammeter on your battery and see what is really happening. Phase amps at basically 1/3 of battery amps. Well if those are phase amps then voltage times phase amps gives you phase watts then. I don't hear anyone mentioning that. This is a sales technique being used to inflate numbers. How come all the companies are doing that, becayse they are all the same 2 companies working under a myriad of names. It may actually just be one at this point. Kunray and Siaecosys. Sia is QSmotor, Sabvoton, Fardriver, Kelly, Votol, the shiny new Sotion, Nbpower, the list goes on. Kunray is now Vevor was Tbvetchi, and a bunch of other ones too. Anything you have heard of is these 2 companies. Electro and Co is some gnarly bike dudes that figured out that these vendors will custom make small batches of custom controllers and custom wound motors as long as you hit their minimum order. (Think Alibaba.) You get a controller that is pre-tuned. So it's Beats Audio for controllers. Bears Audio was just some EQ settings. They actually put weights in the headphones to make them feel valuable. The pre-tuned setup is just a version of the firmware with the settings Electro and Co has picked already flashed to the controller. Now you have a bunch of middle aged guys reliving their childhoods trying to pop wheelies and outdo each other in some kind of controller amperage arms race and they have no idea how to tube a controller or how an electric motor even works. Well magic of course. It's a magic green box that triples wattage.
No. That's not how electricity works. If amperage goes up then voltage goes down. You cannot make actual wattage out of nowhere, and there is always a loss of power in every circuit.
These vendors are full of shit. Chinese metric phase wattage means nothing. It's a work of fiction, masterfully told by all the suckers that are buying into it.
There are so many channels doing the same upgrades. When you buy everything with all the customizing done for you on arrival where's the skill in that? What did you learn? What flavor are you adding to this mixture? These are bolt ons. I see the electro and Co stuff come out and I'm just like...again? You are the first guy I saw get a snow bike right on the first try. The Electro guys tried several years in a row and didn't have the success you did first try. lol So savor that. That was good content, you should have gotten way more hits on that one. I like your channel but a lot of times it like the same content I've seen in another garage or even in your own garage. Dude, throw in something we haven't seen. Have a crazy idea and then make that thing. It doesn't have to perfect at all, but it needs to be not this cookie cutter type content. I don't want to see your channel evaporate because it's like every other pit bike channel but with no original mods happening.
I have a guy right here in my town that has already done all these EandC mods, he has videos for every gear combination you can think of for that bike. Yes they make a 15 tooth front. Once you go to t8f the world becomes your oyster. On Amazon search for HSCTI and it will pop right up. At the end of the description it will say (color: 15). They make it look like you get every size in the listing and the pricing is all over the place because that how these Chinese vendors operate.
I appreciate all the feedback. Thanks for tuning in and giving you input. The snowbike is STILL my favorite project and I always look forward to more unique build like that. Lmk if you have any further suggestions.
Looks perfect
Hey pat I was wondering if the straps came with the battery or you got them separately
@@CarGamerOfficial it came with the battery tray kit by ride or die
Lock tight is a must 😉
Where did you get the black pro taper bar pad
How do you put on the rear wheel I can’t get the spacing right
👍🏽 what’s up Pat? Yes life happens. Sometimes you gotta put projects on hold. Happens to me all the time 😂since I’m on a budget, anyway I just subscribed very cool content.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@JerseyStyle7 thanks bud!
Yeeeeeeeeee new sx vids
when i try to order the rsf wheels from razor i need a rsf650 barcode lol i dont really know where im supposed to get that as i am building a sx500
Hello sir was wondering if you had a way to connect with the guy you purchased the welded freewheel from I’m looking to order 6 of them
@@Josemanuelsegura he actually just gave me a spare one from his garage. You can just get stock ones welded by any fab shop / muffler shop.
I lost my ec4p motor bolt what size is it do u know?
thats good stuff man. just curious how many ebikes do you have? i got 3 atm looking to get more lol.
@@ClownMoney 👀 I currently have 11 between my garage and storage unit..
Lets goo!
Hey Pat just wanted to ask you a quick question. I just purchased a kit from electro and co and I was wondering how long do these parts usually take to ship. Are they within the listed shipping time on the website or do they usually ship later then what electro and co says??
@@jeffreyheineman4166 hit or miss, depending on the product. Small things like sprockets and extensions may only take a few days. Newer higher demand items like the noisy cricket controller kit can take 2 months. Usually says it on the listing page though
2 pistons brakes? you should have gotten the 4 pistons ones or surrons brakes.
@@chxrme81 not too late. Just what I had 🤷🏾♂️ I’ll probably move my Talaria brakes when I upgrade those
💪🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dang I'm about to start selling those swing arm sets for $200 they hella overcharging. We should have number 35 chain set for like $80 ish very soon as well!
I would have gave you a better deal than that even for a video dang it!
Who would be manufacturing your arms?
@@Razorcrew_Cole well I’m always looking at new products. I have another SX500 I can put that stuff on and review if you wanna send a set for promo
@@Razorcrew_Cole well I have a completely untouched SX500 in storage I can do an install series on budget alternative options. Saw you have a bunch of pre wired switches etc as well.
@@PatOutdoors Right on dude! I'm not to a point where I can fully give away expensive things like for you I could maybe give you a throttle or something! Otherwise discounts the best I can for any exposure on your channel a lot of my followers on TikTok always mention you! Much appreciated by the community brother!
Take a look at the site and let me know if there's something you're interested in and we can try to work something out for sure whenever
Who taught it was a rc bike
What lol
No one here
You’re gonna need pit bike breaks brother . Don’t kill yourself
@@ThangaLang94 sure, what do you have on your bike?
@@PatOutdoorsbrombo or whatever they are called . Was that fardriver cheaper than the lil bit ?
@@ThangaLang94 what adapter kit and rotor are you using to fit Brembo calipers on a Razor? The Lil bit is definitely more user friendly and simpler.. I just got the fardriver for higher output, but it’s bulky and harder to program.