The engine looks very clean inside, this was very well maintained. Almost every T7 i have seen had tons of crap in the oilpan. Planning to do a B205E/B204i hybrid in a sleeper OG93. B205E block with B204i pistons and T5 headgasket. The car is pretty special, 02 base model made in Finland! Not many 9-3 were made here besides the Viggen and cabriolet. Its a silver 5-door with a grey interior, looks like a old mans grocery getter! These videos will be useful when i get around doing the engine build!
Hej Jonas. My method for the hydraulic tappets is as follows: 1. I press each one several times to get rid of as much old oil as possible. 2. I soak them in a cleaning agent for 24 hours. I place them on the side while the small hole for the oil intake points up. 3. I press them again several times to get the cleaning agent out. 4. I prime them with oil. I put them upside down in oil, and press them several times slowly. Each press will show air bubbles, and when releasing the tappet sucks oil inside. I saw that you have NE (Nippon Europe) piston rings on the work bench. I have a VERY BAD experience with this brand when it comes to T5 pistons. My supplier sold me 2 sets. One failed after starting the engine, and before even rolling the car out of the lift, and the second set failed after around 1000 km. I stick to Goetze or Mahle piston rings (So far I built around 150 T5 and T7 engines, and many 2 Takt V4, B and H engines). The English term for preparing the cylinder bores is "honing". Happy new year and Happy SAABing.
Thanks for all tips 👌 I have used these piston rings for The 4 T5 builds i have done, none of them has failed so far. And this is what speedparts has sold for years, If they were that bad as you say than wouldnt Even exsist anymore... 150 engines is impresive 💪
Great videos like always, I can tell you that I've learned a lot from your videos you teach in a simple way which is great for me, always glad when I get the notification that there is a new video, intresting journey again that will go great. Keep it up 👍🏽
Hello, Jonas. Great video again, as usual You`ve done. About that balance chain abort: someone have told it makes vibrations to engine as You told. In my SAAB we made the lighter flywheel, about 2,5 kg. I truly think that lower vibrations on my car. And I speak about 400 hp here .And of course we did it propely by welding the oilholes closed. Happy New Year to You, Jonas.
Happy new year Jonas! The build it`s looking fantastic, you are really brave for doing this with the block in the car, hope that you won´t have any troubles putting everything together. I am at that point of having just one car and doing things in the parking lot hahaha, sometimes it´s real struggle to make things work, but it is also kind of fun!
I am guessing that deleting the balance shafts will act as if the flywheel was lightened. If this is done together with a lighter flywheel, more top rpm cams and a more crippy clutch, you may need to up the idle a bit to keep it running when parking or other low speed things, because the rotating mass is smaller then before.
If I don't remenber bad, the stock idle is 825 rpm. I know people that install a lightened flywheel and b234i intake cams and up the idle to 875 or 900 rpm. So anyway the engine is not so lightened as a rally or track car that necessarily need up the idle a lot. Possibility the idle will can be a bit less of the cold start idle. In my opinion, is not a bad idle and permit use the car as daily car yet.
@@vank4205 I drive a Automatic now, but i am just remembering from my 9-3 T5, i felt like it had a fairly light flywheel already, reacted quick to throttle and the low idle when warm needed some throttle, if the road was not perfect flat. So if someone does everything at once and gets one of those light multiplate clutches it could end up being a bit annoying. The 2.3 should have less of a problem, and i think the 9-5 has a different flywheel then 9-3, so you might be right, that it would be fine enough to daily.
Hey bud I was so hoping that it was the 2.8 v 6 engine lol 😂 I have the vectra vxr and my timing chain needs done and I can't find any videos on changing it
Enjoy your excellent videos for the SAAB upgrades. I rebuilt my OG93 one year ago with JE Pistons and deleted balance shafts. The most careful work was grinding the piston rings by hand. Each compression ring took 50 turns; this resulted in almost zero blow by and I would like to know if you grind the rings, depending on boost, or just install them from the box??
What a Christmas present this video is eventogh it was frightening to watch hard core engine building. Your last comments about we are learning when doing are positive. Doing in own garage is my dream too. You have started also in parking area. I'm looking forward to next episode. Tack så jättemycket och betre nytt år.🤘
This is the best Vid I've watched of yours bud💯 it shows that you've put extra thought into it, and that you're in your element with the spanners (ALL of them 😄) great progress!
@@JonasKakarikas Hej Jonas, jag jobbade nästan 20 år på SAAB med allt från materialhantering, konkurrentbevakning, marknadsanalys, tillbehör och på designavdelningen. Jag har haft många SAABar från V4, 99, 900, 9000 och 9-5 OG. Slutade precis innan konkursen. Köpte en billig 9-5 2,3 biopower 2008 för ett år sedan som jag har fixat med och har nu som hobbybil. 9-5 är nog det mesta bil man kan få för pengar idag då det finns hur många som helst och priserna är otroligt låga. Jag har hittat mycket delar på skroten till min bil. Lite av ett sade a SAAB - projekt ! Mvh Curt - Göran Crantz i Vänersborg.
Åh vad häftigt, min pappa Jobbade 29år på Saab, vet ej i detalj men jobbade många år på tekniska och dom sista åren på inköp tror ja. (Tage Hansson) är själv född och uppvuxen i Vänersborg 😉 Mvh Jonas
Hej Jonas ! Jag känner din pappa Tage! Vi har svingat en och annan bägare tidigare med våra gemensamma vänner Janne och Carina! Världen är liten ibland. Hälsa från mig ! Mvh CG
Hej Jonas, loving the build. Will you be changing the timing chain sprockets while you are in there? I have heard horror stories of these breaking with new chains because they wear together. You might want to check this out. 😊
@@JonasKakarikas Probably a good call. When I changed my cylinder head for a refurbished on at 200kmiles my tensioner was out by 17.3mm (I think it starts at 15mm). I'm beginning to wish I had changed the timing gear and chain now, although it looks like a big job! I'm only running about 300hp with stock internals though. My do88 delivery pipe popped off my throttle body on the motorway the other day and I thought my engine had blown! Easy fix though! Can't wait for the next episode of your buid.
Jonas, what's Your opinion about deleting balance shafts in these engines? I'm not particulary asking about tuning reasons. My engine needed to be taken out due to oval cylinders (heavy oil consumption) and many people here say that I should remove balance shafts on this occasion as well. The quite common opinion is that they help to seize the engine over time, and that's the reason why these engines have quite bad opinion due to short longevity. Some kind of factory defect? Is it somehow confirmed, what do You think of it in Sweden?
Hai Karkas, I also begun with my Aero 9-5, coming week I will start to replace my main bearings from the crankshaft because the knocking sound. Do you think I need to replace the bearing from the rods...???? Please let me know.
My car is finished now. I change a lot of things...and it drive as new. When you are in Netherlands or near by let me know. I use a lot of your video.If you sent me your email i will sent you some pictures 😂😂😂😂
Hello, Jonas and very happy new year to You 🙂 How do You think, how much power does timing chain get? I`ve heard about 800 hp! I don`t believe it but I need Your opinion ;) Ari.
@@JonasKakarikas Thank You, Jonas for answering so quickly. I have a diesel- Saab chain on my own car. My target on this spring is HX 35 with 3,5" DP. About 500 hp. My earlier combo doesn`t work as it should. So I must get it better!
If you´re removing the engine totally, which way is the easiest then? Remove everything (including gearbox and subframe) downwards? Or is it better to separate the gearbox from the engine and hoist the engine up through the engine bay?
I have never done it, but you either way u could keep engine and gearbox together. Drop the engine and subframe on a pallet then hoist up The car should be the easiest 👍
@@J1I9M7M4Y The Classic 9-3 / NG 900 is easier to drop the powerplant as it is less complicated in comparison with the 9-5. Since it is also narrower, for any timing job you must drop the powerplant.
@@orenkipnis7058 Thanks a lot for the advices. I will drop the engine for a complete rebuild and i don´t have the same patience as Jonas, so i better take it out.. 😂
Hi, I had you on Facebook but have since come off social media, do you have an email I can contact you on regarding a 93 coupe 2.3 gt3076r build I'm doing at the minute. Many thanks kris
The engine looks very clean inside, this was very well maintained. Almost every T7 i have seen had tons of crap in the oilpan. Planning to do a B205E/B204i hybrid in a sleeper OG93. B205E block with B204i pistons and T5 headgasket. The car is pretty special, 02 base model made in Finland! Not many 9-3 were made here besides the Viggen and cabriolet. Its a silver 5-door with a grey interior, looks like a old mans grocery getter! These videos will be useful when i get around doing the engine build!
Its really clean inside 👌
Hej Jonas.
My method for the hydraulic tappets is as follows:
1. I press each one several times to get rid of as much old oil as possible.
2. I soak them in a cleaning agent for 24 hours. I place them on the side while the small hole for the oil intake points up.
3. I press them again several times to get the cleaning agent out.
4. I prime them with oil. I put them upside down in oil, and press them several times slowly. Each press will show air bubbles, and when releasing the tappet sucks oil inside.
I saw that you have NE (Nippon Europe) piston rings on the work bench. I have a VERY BAD experience with this brand when it comes to T5 pistons. My supplier sold me 2 sets. One failed after starting the engine, and before even rolling the car out of the lift, and the second set failed after around 1000 km. I stick to Goetze or Mahle piston rings (So far I built around 150 T5 and T7 engines, and many 2 Takt V4, B and H engines).
The English term for preparing the cylinder bores is "honing".
Happy new year and Happy SAABing.
Thanks for all tips 👌
I have used these piston rings for The 4 T5 builds i have done, none of them has failed so far. And this is what speedparts has sold for years, If they were that bad as you say than wouldnt Even exsist anymore... 150 engines is impresive 💪
Good job,.
Oren Kipnis, which of two brands do you recommend to T5 pistons?. I only have saw Hastings rings but I haven't any reference about them.
Tia.
@@vank4205 The P/N of Goetze is 0896330000. Mahle is 479 47 NO. These were both OEMs of SAAB. Goetze is easily found on ebay.
Happy new year from finland!
Samoin ;)
That color yellow looks fantastic on your Saab.
keep up the good work, a true enthusiast.
Thank you for your tremendous efforts. Great to be on this journey. Keep up the good work!
🙏
Great videos like always, I can tell you that I've learned a lot from your videos you teach in a simple way which is great for me, always glad when I get the notification that there is a new video, intresting journey again that will go great. Keep it up 👍🏽
Thank you 🙏
Hello, Jonas. Great video again, as usual You`ve done. About that balance chain abort: someone have told it makes vibrations to engine as You told. In my SAAB we made the lighter flywheel, about 2,5 kg. I truly think that lower vibrations on my car. And I speak about 400 hp here .And of course we did it propely by welding the oilholes closed. Happy New Year to You, Jonas.
Awesome 👍
Using the wheel grinder to adjust gap. Primitive & cheap, but it works. I guess I just under estimated the ring toughness to grinding
Happy new year Jonas! The build it`s looking fantastic, you are really brave for doing this with the block in the car, hope that you won´t have any troubles putting everything together.
I am at that point of having just one car and doing things in the parking lot hahaha, sometimes it´s real struggle to make things work, but it is also kind of fun!
Keep up that parkinglot hustle and you Will get to your goals 🙏
Try a v6 engine forge and hybrid?
this is the video i will reffrence when fixing my 9-5, thank you king
I am guessing that deleting the balance shafts will act as if the flywheel was lightened.
If this is done together with a lighter flywheel, more top rpm cams and a more crippy clutch, you may need to up the idle a bit to keep it running when parking or other low speed things, because the rotating mass is smaller then before.
You are correct my friend 👌 will do some custom timing to the cams as well 👍
If I don't remenber bad, the stock idle is 825 rpm. I know people that install a lightened flywheel and b234i intake cams and up the idle to 875 or 900 rpm.
So anyway the engine is not so lightened as a rally or track car that necessarily need up the idle a lot.
Possibility the idle will can be a bit less of the cold start idle. In my opinion, is not a bad idle and permit use the car as daily car yet.
@@vank4205 I drive a Automatic now, but i am just remembering from my 9-3 T5, i felt like it had a fairly light flywheel already, reacted quick to throttle and the low idle when warm needed some throttle, if the road was not perfect flat.
So if someone does everything at once and gets one of those light multiplate clutches it could end up being a bit annoying.
The 2.3 should have less of a problem, and i think the 9-5 has a different flywheel then 9-3, so you might be right, that it would be fine enough to daily.
The English word is “Hone” for cleaning up the cylinders. 🤘🏻
It's the same word in Swedish lol. Honing doesn't clean the cylinders, it scratches the surface.
Hey bud I was so hoping that it was the 2.8 v 6 engine lol 😂 I have the vectra vxr and my timing chain needs done and I can't find any videos on changing it
Enjoy your excellent videos for the SAAB upgrades. I rebuilt my OG93 one year ago with JE Pistons and deleted balance shafts. The most careful work was grinding the piston rings by hand. Each compression ring took 50 turns; this resulted in almost zero blow by and I would like to know if you grind the rings, depending on boost, or just install them from the box??
I just measure ring gap in The cylinder and adjust the gap if needed. Dont know what you mean by grinding 50 turns?
What a Christmas present this video is eventogh it was frightening to watch hard core engine building. Your last comments about we are learning when doing are positive. Doing in own garage is my dream too. You have started also in parking area. I'm looking forward to next episode. Tack så jättemycket och betre nytt år.🤘
If your goal is your own garage, you are going to get it. Keep pushing 💪
This is the best Vid I've watched of yours bud💯 it shows that you've put extra thought into it, and that you're in your element with the spanners (ALL of them 😄) great progress!
🤣. Thanks mate 🙏
Otroligt intressant! Det värmer en gammal Saabare att se din entusiasm för SAAB. Har själv en 9-5 2008 som jag mekar med.
Kul att du gillar det 🙏 vad gjorde du under dina år på Saab? 👍
@@JonasKakarikas Hej Jonas, jag jobbade nästan 20 år på SAAB med allt från materialhantering, konkurrentbevakning, marknadsanalys, tillbehör och på designavdelningen. Jag har haft många SAABar från V4, 99, 900, 9000 och 9-5 OG. Slutade precis innan konkursen. Köpte en billig 9-5 2,3 biopower 2008 för ett år sedan som jag har fixat med och har nu som hobbybil. 9-5 är nog det mesta bil man kan få för pengar idag då det finns hur många som helst och priserna är otroligt låga. Jag har hittat mycket delar på skroten till min bil. Lite av ett sade a SAAB - projekt !
Mvh Curt - Göran Crantz i Vänersborg.
Åh vad häftigt, min pappa Jobbade 29år på Saab, vet ej i detalj men jobbade många år på tekniska och dom sista åren på inköp tror ja. (Tage Hansson) är själv född och uppvuxen i Vänersborg 😉 Mvh Jonas
Hej Jonas ! Jag känner din pappa Tage! Vi har svingat en och annan bägare tidigare med våra gemensamma vänner Janne och Carina! Världen är liten ibland. Hälsa från mig ! Mvh CG
Där ser man 😉 det skall jag absolut göra 👍 Mvh Jonas
Hej Jonas, loving the build. Will you be changing the timing chain sprockets while you are in there? I have heard horror stories of these breaking with new chains because they wear together. You might want to check this out. 😊
Im going to use a set from another engine 👍 not new, but in good condition
@@JonasKakarikas Probably a good call. When I changed my cylinder head for a refurbished on at 200kmiles my tensioner was out by 17.3mm (I think it starts at 15mm). I'm beginning to wish I had changed the timing gear and chain now, although it looks like a big job! I'm only running about 300hp with stock internals though. My do88 delivery pipe popped off my throttle body on the motorway the other day and I thought my engine had blown! Easy fix though! Can't wait for the next episode of your buid.
I have popped The deliverypipe straight up in the Hood at wide open throttle... Really scary 🤣
Is this a T5 block too? I've seen a couple of ways to use a T7 block with T5 pistons and rods.
T7 block 👌
@@JonasKakarikas beautiful, I've been watching your progress on and off when I can. I'm looking to be doing the same thing.
Jonas, what's Your opinion about deleting balance shafts in these engines? I'm not particulary asking about tuning reasons. My engine needed to be taken out due to oval cylinders (heavy oil consumption) and many people here say that I should remove balance shafts on this occasion as well. The quite common opinion is that they help to seize the engine over time, and that's the reason why these engines have quite bad opinion due to short longevity. Some kind of factory defect? Is it somehow confirmed, what do You think of it in Sweden?
I deleted mine and couldnt be happier with how it turned out. Thats my opinion, im not going suggest anyone else to do it.
Happy new year jonas! Sick video as always
Thanks 🙏
i am curious does the Saab 1998 2.0l 9-3 convertible have the B204 motor?
Think it has a T5 engine
@@JonasKakarikas Isnt the t5 a turboed engine from factory?
Yes it is
What year saab is this one? Super excited saab owner over here. Pushing a small 320 horsepower in my 2.0T
2004 👌
Happy New Year to you and your family 👍🏻You are SAAB legend man, from a proud Aero owner 😉
Hai Karkas, I also begun with my Aero 9-5, coming week I will start to replace my main bearings from the crankshaft because the knocking sound. Do you think I need to replace the bearing from the rods...???? Please let me know.
While you have them apart, yes change them!
My car is finished now. I change a lot of things...and it drive as new. When you are in Netherlands or near by let me know. I use a lot of your video.If you sent me your email i will sent you some pictures 😂😂😂😂
Happy New Year jonas you are a inspiration to Saab lovers around the world
Thank you for following 🙏
happy new year from northeast usa
🙏
Nice project for start the 2021! Good job 👍
Happy new year from Greece, keep the good work Jonas. Owner ifa a 2006 9-3 5 door 1.8i. 😁
Efxaristo para poli 🙏 🇬🇷
Parakalo poly, yeah 👍🤘
Visste fan att du skulle komma långt!
Where do you recommend getting parts?
Depends on what parts? MapTunparts.com is a good start
Följer med glädje mannen 😁😉👍... Kommer bli grym
Tack M 🙏
Did you remove the water pump and alternator?
No, just took out The bolts going in to the cover
Looks good man!
Hi, happy new year to you too. Any plans to participate the intsaab2021?
Hi, hoping on Covid-19 going down in the world, i hope to be there with atleast one car 🙏
Happy New Year 2021
10:25 Which part of the engine is it safe to place that breaker bar on to move the engine to the side? The crankshaft pulley?
Yes that works fine 👌
@@JonasKakarikas Great! Thanks! Amazing content, as usual! :)
Hello, Jonas and very happy new year to You 🙂 How do You think, how much power does timing chain get? I`ve heard about 800 hp! I don`t believe it but I need Your opinion ;) Ari.
Hi, The timingchain is not really the issue when tuning. The oem Saab timingchain will take 850hp without problem
@@JonasKakarikas Thank You, Jonas for answering so quickly. I have a diesel- Saab chain on my own car. My target on this spring is HX 35 with 3,5" DP. About 500 hp. My earlier combo doesn`t work as it should. So I must get it better!
Holset is really old turbo technology, i would recommend getting a pulsar turbo instead. Like a g30-660 turbo will get 500hp easy
@@JonasKakarikas 😆Ok. But I have an old car now, maybe my next (SAAB of course) will have turbo like You recommended. Thank You, Jonas, again. Ari.
Veldig bra 😉 👍
Husk å også bytte oringer på oil pickup og oil røret i blokken
Hello Jonas! I have a question. Does the head from an Aero it's the same then one from a 2.3t - non Aero?
Hi, T7 cylinderheads are the same. 2.0 or 2.3 is depending on the crank, piston and rods. And aero or non aero is The same
@@JonasKakarikas good to know that, thanks Jonas!
Are these new pistons and rods or are the refurbished?
Refurbished, you cannot buy new T5 piston/Rods
Where did you purchase them from and get them refurbished?
Used from a friend, then clean them myself and got them Machined at a machineshop. Best way to get them is to get a Saab 9000 engine from a junkyard
Thank you Jonas!
Vågar du berätta vem som fixat programvaran med launchcontroll? ;)
Launchjoel_racing 👌
@@JonasKakarikas Tack tack 🙏
What wheels are those?
Lorinser lm6
Great tutorial for copying.
You learn... we learn 😉🤣😂
😉🙏
С новым годом! Жду новых серий.
Happy New Year to you also❤️
🙏
If you´re removing the engine totally, which way is the easiest then? Remove everything (including gearbox and subframe) downwards? Or is it better to separate the gearbox from the engine and hoist the engine up through the engine bay?
I have never done it, but you either way u could keep engine and gearbox together. Drop the engine and subframe on a pallet then hoist up The car should be the easiest 👍
Trying to lift up a 9-5 engine for removal is a nightmare. It is designed to be dropped down.
@@orenkipnis7058 Thanks for the advice. In my case it´s an OG 9-3 Aero, but i guess they are built quite similiar..
@@J1I9M7M4Y The Classic 9-3 / NG 900 is easier to drop the powerplant as it is less complicated in comparison with the 9-5. Since it is also narrower, for any timing job you must drop the powerplant.
@@orenkipnis7058 Thanks a lot for the advices. I will drop the engine for a complete rebuild and i don´t have the same patience as Jonas, so i better take it out.. 😂
Part number for Oil pan orings.
2x Crossover feed pipe 9137993
1x oil pickup pipe 9138009
Kungen!
🙏
Snyggt! 🤘😃
I lowerd the engine out not lift
P.S. My engine is 2,3 T 7.
sound like that car fartin ong
🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🖐️🖐️
SAAB
🙏
SAAB 9-3LPT 2003
Awesome 👌
Hi, I had you on Facebook but have since come off social media, do you have an email I can contact you on regarding a 93 coupe 2.3 gt3076r build I'm doing at the minute. Many thanks kris