Pinning down details with someone whose high on the narcissism spectrum is always gonna be hard. Interviews with Joe are usually filled with people asking for clarity, them attempting to summarize and him telling them that they're wrong and don't understand but rather actually clarifying fully, he gives some vague answer that frames him as the victim or the crusader fighting for justice.
@@Polostar79 😂 that’s a fact. Everyone had their own perspective, that goes without being said! But I guess not for Joe. Hope he loosened up a bit throughout the rest of it
@@llaves973 you shouldn’t have to work for an answer. Unless you let it be known beforehand that certain topics are off the table you should be ready and willing to answer anything thrown your way.
@@DM-lj2mn I agree. Isn’t he even playing victim about Joel telling him to S his D? It was said in response when Joel thought Joe had said that to him. I didn’t hear the “album” part either at first. And Joe knew it was misheard and said so later.
Joe Budden may be a great and I do mean great artist, but to ask that man to speak on things from a introspective authentic truthful standpoint can be arduous for me the listener and the interviewer(maybe). His responses are vague, full of innuendo and deflections, he presents at first glance as authentic until he is asked direct questions, than the guards come up, and any criticism directed at him is met with cocky passive aggression. I didn't feel like I learned anything from what he said, it was a verbal version of a Labyrinth.
Truest shit ever said about this man and he thinks it makes him Clever / I feel he also talks to ppl like he’s more intelligent or like he knows everything they don’t in some ways
And now imagine trying to deal with him for 10 years to get an answer on what he wants to do with Slaughterhouse 🤣🤣 No wonder they said Fuck it and Fuck Slaughterhouse I couldn't imagine dealing with that in business
Jesus Christ 11 and half minutes later and there no better understanding of what happen. Some people are misunderstood and some people are a whole other thing....."I'm there to complicate things" "I dont switch up" "people are sensitive" "what I said was a mild version"...a whole conversation in the third person....the ego is insane
I’m convinced ppl just pay y’all to get on TH-cam and hate on joe….probably Rory & mal burner accounts but it’s funny how much y’all try & act like you know these celebrities inside & out 🤣
Shout out to Math for respectfully not letting Joe slide and pressing him. I think Joe believes his own story, but that dont make it true.. i think Crook is being the most honest on this. Joe wasnt happy so Joe bounced on the group and left an unfinished album with ONE disgruntled member that Shady couldnt release and market until Joe came back to the table. The other members understood being under Shady gave them the worldwide audience, no matter how good you rap that Shady Cipher got you 20 million views. Joe even said they had the best of the best super producers for Glass House, thats Shady Records doing that....
@@bikezthenightstalker.3134 Eminem said he didn’t get involved with the 2nd album cause he didn’t wanna feel it was his fault slaughterhouse didn’t do as good as they thought they would. Then the problems started, so He let them walk, after they spent millions to do the projects only to shelve glasshouse & everybody lost money. I’m with crooked, he’s the only one I feel is being honest & literally tried to make it work.
Math low-key took over the game, I remember looking at jayblac channel thinking Math need these numbers, fast forward a year or so and Math passed all them guys. Whats even more impressive is the fact that they tried to black ball him and still couldn't stop the shine. Salute Math👊🏾 you did it the right way, and didn't need to s*** d*** or join any brotherhood's
I like how people are showing up to do Math's show. Nice to see the Hip Hop community coming out to support this brother. Joe coming on shows no ego involve when it comes to internet shows. Great content as always.
And I can only imagine that life is harder when you think you have to be right all the damn time. He just needs to chill and look at situations from an outside perspective.
Joe doesn’t like to be figured out, his out is always him not having to take blame. Taking blame has to be on his accord only. Yah have to know this by now lol.
This is because as a child, his mother never held him accountable or made him apologize for anything. Instead, she sat around defending him and making him the victim which led to him never feeling like he was responsible for anything.
I swear, dude likes to counter, deflect and make everybody else look like they in the wrong in any form. In Joe world Joe is right Joe is never wrong, we are the crazy ones
@@twin9775 😂😂😂 I love when this happens..... Besides folks checking grammar on the internet, like wtf, but then being wrong themselves. At least look it up before you reply and try to embarrass someone..😂😂 Smdh
That Music to be Murdered By question was on point and I was glad to see that asked. Kindve gutted that we didn't really get a true answer - would've been good if you had played the track like suggested
After the Crook/Ortiz Vs Royce/Budden we saw recently, I feel like this topic needed to be left where they left it. Is Joe really gonna admit responsibility for shelved Slaughterhouse album? The break of the group? These guys really need to go through some major life altering experience for us to hear any different. Hope I'm mistaken. Just my thoughts.
Crook was my favorite in the group. But it's his fault the group ended. He's been fake af the whole time. He wanted to dick ride eminem. So he kept all his eggs in that basket(the whole time fighting to stay on shady, making em name drops every other song) yet he still didn't get the horseshoe gang signed to shady....if crook wouldn't have been that way, they would have been off shady long before joe even talked about retirement. It's on crooked. And that joell and crook slaughterhouse thing had like 3 good songs on it. Thing had no replay value basically.
@@blackjesus4525 3/4 members of the group has said Em is not to blame for that though, so where are you getting that from? The debut album for Slaughterhouse was delayed because of Joe. They have been waiting on Joe since the inception of the group.
No if you watch the live you see what he said the world lied on blatantly lied on joe most if them probably didn’t even watch the live just like gossip sounds like you do too lol go back under the stove
Nah. It ain’t. Shady Records technically owns it still. They don’t want to release it without coming to an agreement with SlaugherHouse. Joe is refusing to acknowledge that he refused to accept or come to an agreement with Shady. Moreover, SlaugherHouse is dead. They can’t come to an agreement with Shady when half of the group has disbanded. [x]
@@KD_SWAGGER It ain’t gonna get leaked by Joell or Crooked. Maybe Joe, I doubt Royce too. Some producers haven’t been paid for their beats yet. They don’t want to do that. Moreover, if it does get leaked, they will be the prime suspects for the investigation. Interscope ain’t gonna just let it slide. Nobody wants that kind of heat or drama. Joe should just pony up and make Shady an offer to pay for full ownership and release it. He won’t. He cares about himself only. [x]
I believe Joe's point was he had long before shitted on Shady before his comments on Eminem's album. That wasn't like the first or final straw. It was the straw after all the other straws had already broken the camel's back
Was joe publicly shitting on shady during 2015 though?? Bc theres a diff between, moving behind close doors and moving publicly, when it comes to this bussiness. Which is what i think hoff was alluring to? Like yes bts, joe was expressive, but the other members still believe they can reel him back, and since em really fucks w 3/4 of them he was willing to wait. But when joe did his thing on the pod. Thats when its finally done. But as joe stated he was already done in his mind, he just never explicitly said it to his brothers... joe has the tendancy to move like this... ex: sending joell the eyes 👀.. he plays mental gymnastics, n then hides behind, "yall just dont see it like joe" but when pressed to show us what he sees, he responds with " those who knows, knows"... I could b wrong though, and maybe joe has always publicly shitted on shady, during 2015. But i dont remember it to b the case, in fact he had an interview where he commended em for his song "rock bottom" saying how at one point in his life those words spoke to him personally, and that he wasnt good enough at that point in his life to come up with that.
Joe as a rapper is such an underrated lyricist and I can’t understand why. Joe as a person is very narcissistic. I can never look at him the same after why he did to Rory and Mal.
@@ramonheffe6391 you must not understand how the industries like merge music business work - he’s not good at leveraging or maintaining relationships . He’s good at making art and content . He’s not “underrated” by anyone who took the time out and listened to his catalogue, he just wasn’t as big of an artist as you’d probably like j
@@ramonheffe6391 that’s what you’re implying by saying you don’t understand why he’s underrated - but he’s not underrated, everyone says and knows he can rap
You can be more than 1 thing, people are not as monolithic as we try to make them. Joe is CLEARLY a narcissist and it shows daily in basic banter....its exhausting honestly. A point A to B convo turns into gymnastics of the universe. A clear narcissist tactic. While he is an underrated emcee and makes many great points when it comes to business an certain life events.......anytime we get to where he is clearly the problem, he ain't the problem lol smh.
What I've learned from Joe when people interview him, is that he will never give you the surface answer to ANYTHING. I can understand how frustrating that can be and how people will write that off as "mental gymnastics", because its never a cut and dry answer to a lot of things that Joe is asked when that's what most people want from him. I am similar in that regard, and it comes from not wanting to be taken out of context or leave things open to other people's interpretation of what you said.
Him refusing to give surface answers doesn’t stop people from misinterpreting his answers. Moreover, it sounds like some coy political BS. Doesn’t give a surface answer, people interpreted it, and then he’s like, “when did I say that.” It sounds manipulative asf. Don’t give people direct answers then agrue over the vagueness of the actual answer given. It’s frustrating to deal with. [x]
Even royce has said over the years that one of the reasons we didn't get Glasshouse was joe wouldn't come back so they could finish what needed to be finished.
As a mood muzik fan, as a slaughterhouse fan, as a fan of Joe budden's music, I can Joe was the only bad situation for slaughterhouse, not the shady deal.
Everything sounds different when Math is fact checked... I wish they had someone who could simply Google on every episode. Hoffa is the king of interpretation for entertaining purpose
Joe is an articulated Kanye. Joe is not trying to be PETTY, he REMEMBERS EVERYTHING..Body language explains a lot. He is a human above all else, I am rooting for him..
I love feeling like I'm privy to "man talk" when I watch this channel..& I'm a fan a Joe..I like how you handle him..& press him to tell uncomfortable truths...great content..
The song is “I Will”, it doesn’t include Joe & it doesn’t say that it features slaughterhouse. It says features kxng crooked, Royce Da 5’9”, Joell Ortiz
People saying that Joe doesn’t directly answer questions or goes through mental gymnastics are not hearing the answer they want to hear. The man is giving his answer. Also being in media he understands how shit can get out hand with the wrong response, and now you have to talk about shit in depth that you didn’t want to talk about in depth.
People can not like or understand joe cool but one thing about dude is he's constant on ownership and telling the truth about the music industry to help the public and up and coming kids how dirt they play and I 100% respect that!
Some Bars from SlaughterMouse: We could disband right now & it's gunna always be love, For a brief period I tried to Rhyme like Ya'll, I was high maybe trying to prove I'm like Ya'll, but I'm not, I suck at all that syllable ish.. I think Joe knows in today's climate he would be looked at as the weakest link in slaughterhouse.
Joe carries himself arrogantly, but if i know anything about Joe, theres always an explanation for it that he consciously chooses not to elaborate. Joe is so entertaining in long form discussions because hes got an almost untraceable opinion pattern. And his quick takes make you think hes either wrong af, or trying to “take it to the next level” like a clickbait take. But everytime he breakes down his perception on things, most of the time he will leave you parallel to him. Idk if thats an art of manipulation, or the fact that in his +40 years of life his experiences and knowledge give him a unique judgement filter that cant be categorized, which full circle gives him the ability to carry himself arrogantly because he doesnt think hes better then anyone in the room, he’ll prove it, when he wants too. Mighta sounded a lil dick riderish, but im not partial to Joe, i think hes an entertaining podcast host, and prolly an asshole too. He actually still has me blocked on twitter. But my overthinking analysis is just that.
Math Hoffa, in my book, has now surpassed every talk show format, hip hop or otherwise. Dude is, hands down, the dopest interviewer. He has revived the Tax Stone vibe and added a bit a of Math
What was so UNCLEAR about what Joe said? Yall just roll with ANY narrative. He said he DID the album AND 2 mixtapes even after seeing business was BAD. He put out another album, SOLO... RETIRED. STILL NO ALBUM. THEN.... 2-3 years later, he speaks on Eminem's album, which was TRASH, on Everyday Struggle. HOW are yall misconstruing ANY of this or say he's dancing? THIS IS PLAIN ASS ENGLISH.
Joe has one of my all time favorite pods, but he always gives an embarrassingly bad interview. Dude tried to be clever and vague, but really comes off as a fool.
Why Joe lying? Shady told Joe exactly why the album wasn’t coming out. Shady said they needed more songs, they needed to pick a single, they needed to shoot a video, and had to agree on the tour dates. Joe is the king of lack of accountability. [x]
Joe Budden was clear as hell as what went on without triggering more Slaughterhouse, Eminem quotes to be used as click bait internet bs..Joe said Em, talked more about his opinions publicly than promote their work! He bit the hand that feeds his guys
It's always interesting seeing Joe and Math conversate,two different perspectives,both respected in the podcast world! It almost looked like a mental stand off at one point tho ,🤣
Take the Gate off on the audio. When the person speaking is quiet, it gets way too quiet and sound cuts out. If you have lots of people talking at once, then keep it on, but lately you don’t need it. Change it on your machine.
There is other noise that you don't want in the audio it's not just people talking there is background noise from outside air noise from the heater or AC some things you can't just EQ out so you make the gate open at a certain DB rate...quite is good trust me
Def Jam,Esther baxter,his first baby mum's,Jay-Z,Tahiry,Kaylin,Cyn, Complex,Charlamgne,Ebro,Mal & Rory, Spotify, Shady, Slaughterhouse,state of the culture, I'm suppose to believe everyone of these was the problem and not Joe ! according to Royce joe will rap again! they get off shady and still nothing from Joe & Royce about rapping with the guy's! Joe preaches about therapy so much it's clearly not working so maybe he should not go therapy anymore.
Are u fuckin kidding me, the whole time I’m thinking esso is sippin brown water and he’s out here sippin jameson. Now that’s a plot twist I never expected.
Pinning down details with someone whose high on the narcissism spectrum is always gonna be hard. Interviews with Joe are usually filled with people asking for clarity, them attempting to summarize and him telling them that they're wrong and don't understand but rather actually clarifying fully, he gives some vague answer that frames him as the victim or the crusader fighting for justice.
Yep.
lol Great commentary on this my brotha. Couldn't have said it better
Well said sir that’s a fact
Never gonna happen
Facts!!!
Joe showed up on his bullshit today... making Math work for the details! Good shit Hoffa, that's why you're crushing it
Word. The dude talks in codes like his situation is that deep.
@@Polostar79 😂 that’s a fact. Everyone had their own perspective, that goes without being said! But I guess not for Joe. Hope he loosened up a bit throughout the rest of it
If you don’t work for the answers then how good would a interview really be ,keep it up math
@@llaves973 you shouldn’t have to work for an answer. Unless you let it be known beforehand that certain topics are off the table you should be ready and willing to answer anything thrown your way.
He seems a little better than the first time he came on Math's show. Shit was super awkward. I look forward to this one dropping
Lmao Joe is slick with the words man! You gotta watch out for him 😂😂😂😂
Taxstone seen it early
@@harmony3156 definitely not a real man, he handles situations terribly. He's just slick with the words
Cause dude been reflecting and playing victim his whole life lol
He’s a bullshitter
@@DM-lj2mn I agree. Isn’t he even playing victim about Joel telling him to S his D? It was said in response when Joel thought Joe had said that to him. I didn’t hear the “album” part either at first. And Joe knew it was misheard and said so later.
Joe Budden may be a great and I do mean great artist, but to ask that man to speak on things from a introspective authentic truthful standpoint can be arduous for me the listener and the interviewer(maybe). His responses are vague, full of innuendo and deflections, he presents at first glance as authentic until he is asked direct questions, than the guards come up, and any criticism directed at him is met with cocky passive aggression. I didn't feel like I learned anything from what he said, it was a verbal version of a Labyrinth.
That's Joe in a nutshell. I can't even finish this.
hell yea lol
Truest shit ever said about this man and he thinks it makes him Clever / I feel he also talks to ppl like he’s more intelligent or like he knows everything they don’t in some ways
That's why Taxstone spazzed df out on this dude
And now imagine trying to deal with him for 10 years to get an answer on what he wants to do with Slaughterhouse 🤣🤣
No wonder they said Fuck it and Fuck Slaughterhouse I couldn't imagine dealing with that in business
Can't stop laughing at how Math lead into that question. Killer interview.
Jesus Christ 11 and half minutes later and there no better understanding of what happen. Some people are misunderstood and some people are a whole other thing....."I'm there to complicate things" "I dont switch up" "people are sensitive" "what I said was a mild version"...a whole conversation in the third person....the ego is insane
Were u listening?
Seriously. This was the most THOROUGH explanation ANY of them has ever given on ANYTHING. You are WEIRD.
@@g-holy lol so you speak Joe's language, that's cool. Do you think people in the barbershop understood what he was saying?
@@calvinmoffatte7334 were they trying?
I’m convinced ppl just pay y’all to get on TH-cam and hate on joe….probably Rory & mal burner accounts but it’s funny how much y’all try & act like you know these celebrities inside & out 🤣
Shout out to Math for respectfully not letting Joe slide and pressing him. I think Joe believes his own story, but that dont make it true.. i think Crook is being the most honest on this. Joe wasnt happy so Joe bounced on the group and left an unfinished album with ONE disgruntled member that Shady couldnt release and market until Joe came back to the table.
The other members understood being under Shady gave them the worldwide audience, no matter how good you rap that Shady Cipher got you 20 million views. Joe even said they had the best of the best super producers for Glass House, thats Shady Records doing that....
He also said they had to rap to em’s wack beats later.. he said the songs sounded completely different when it came back
@@bikezthenightstalker.3134 Eminem said he didn’t get involved with the 2nd album cause he didn’t wanna feel it was his fault slaughterhouse didn’t do as good as they thought they would. Then the problems started, so He let them walk, after they spent millions to do the projects only to shelve glasshouse & everybody lost money. I’m with crooked, he’s the only one I feel is being honest & literally tried to make it work.
I have to say. If joe believes his version is true. Then he and kxng crook are being equally honest.
This interesting, Joe being patient and Math low key testing that shit lol
Joe only spaz off on people on people he isn't afraid of
Two worst things about Joe is when he refers to himself in the third person and when he pronounces "month" as "mumpf".
🤣accurate
It's his relatively new TEEF.
🤣 🤣🤣🤣THAT'S DEFINITELY JOE ‼️‼️‼️
Mumpf is ny sh!t lol
Jersey!
Math low-key took over the game, I remember looking at jayblac channel thinking Math need these numbers, fast forward a year or so and Math passed all them guys. Whats even more impressive is the fact that they tried to black ball him and still couldn't stop the shine.
Salute Math👊🏾 you did it the right way, and didn't need to s*** d*** or join any brotherhood's
Salute! 🙏🏾
@@Mathhoffa Math's numbers grew when all of a sudden we saw a alphabet flag in the background breakfast club style. I Respect it doh
@@pheo1418 talk about that part
04:39 to 04:45 *"30 days to a month"* is that like Birdman saying *"Are we finished or are we done?!?!"* 🤣🤣🤣
thank you! I was like, wtf?? did I hear this right?
There are some months that are 31 days and Feb is 28/29 days maybe that what he meant 😂
I like how people are showing up to do Math's show. Nice to see the Hip Hop community coming out to support this brother. Joe coming on shows no ego involve when it comes to internet shows. Great content as always.
This is at the very least his 2nd time on Math's platform.
I used to be a HUGE Joe Budden podcast/personality fan. He's an interesting guy but his integrity....😬
It’s business .. 🤦♂️
Completely agree, I can’t listen to his podcast anymore
@@fortybelafonte5184 Yeah I stopped listening after the Rory & Mal situation. The second he said "I don't owe my friends respect" I knew it was over
It seems like Joe can be hard to deal with, he think he smarter than everybody in the room.
For no reason too
And I can only imagine that life is harder when you think you have to be right all the damn time. He just needs to chill and look at situations from an outside perspective.
Its so funny to see
Joe doesn’t like to be figured out, his out is always him not having to take blame. Taking blame has to be on his accord only. Yah have to know this by now lol.
This is because as a child, his mother never held him accountable or made him apologize for anything. Instead, she sat around defending him and making him the victim which led to him never feeling like he was responsible for anything.
I swear, dude likes to counter, deflect and make everybody else look like they in the wrong in any form. In Joe world Joe is right Joe is never wrong, we are the crazy ones
@@russellstevens9927 he literally said that he was a problem
@@dc4ever967 he literally said that he was a problem
he literally said that he was a problem
Yo Math that segue was great!! You did that to perfection!! Lol. Salute #MEO
It's segway....
@@wraithyoshidj6702 spell check is a mother!! You should try it!! Sure you right!! Lmfao
@@twin9775 😂😂😂
I love when this happens.....
Besides folks checking grammar on the internet, like wtf, but then being wrong themselves. At least look it up before you reply and try to embarrass someone..😂😂
Smdh
Wrong term thats my bad, but spellcheck has nothing to do with it, seems like u cant make the difference between vocabulary and spelling... Yikes
@@DjcHuCkNiCe1 and i love it when a blind co signer follows a car off a bridge
That Music to be Murdered By question was on point and I was glad to see that asked. Kindve gutted that we didn't really get a true answer - would've been good if you had played the track like suggested
Joe Budden Is The Master Of Build And Destroy❗️✅
After the Crook/Ortiz Vs Royce/Budden we saw recently, I feel like this topic needed to be left where they left it. Is Joe really gonna admit responsibility for shelved Slaughterhouse album? The break of the group? These guys really need to go through some major life altering experience for us to hear any different. Hope I'm mistaken. Just my thoughts.
How is Joe responsible for the shelved album tho?
@@coachtali5151 Did you follow the arguements which ensued when Ortiz and Crook announced their album?
@@dalitsomz huh? Bruh what are you talking bout? They finished glass house and em just let it sit, how is that Joe’s fault?
Crook was my favorite in the group. But it's his fault the group ended. He's been fake af the whole time. He wanted to dick ride eminem. So he kept all his eggs in that basket(the whole time fighting to stay on shady, making em name drops every other song) yet he still didn't get the horseshoe gang signed to shady....if crook wouldn't have been that way, they would have been off shady long before joe even talked about retirement. It's on crooked. And that joell and crook slaughterhouse thing had like 3 good songs on it. Thing had no replay value basically.
@@blackjesus4525 3/4 members of the group has said Em is not to blame for that though, so where are you getting that from? The debut album for Slaughterhouse was delayed because of Joe. They have been waiting on Joe since the inception of the group.
Nigga said 30 days to a month!🤦🏽♂️
Joell Said SMD Because That’s What He Thought Joe Said To Him, The Whole World Thought Joe Said SMD 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Thats Joe with semantics again think he slick
@@imperialstats deadass
No if you watch the live you see what he said the world lied on blatantly lied on joe most if them probably didn’t even watch the live just like gossip sounds like you do too lol go back under the stove
Joe said the album could SMD
@@Talib23401 Telling a dude his album can smd is not far off from telling me to syd.
Math Hoffa is great at what he does. Great transitions to the questions asked by all. Hopefully Slaughterhouse's Glasshouse album is released one day.
Nah. It ain’t. Shady Records technically owns it still. They don’t want to release it without coming to an agreement with SlaugherHouse.
Joe is refusing to acknowledge that he refused to accept or come to an agreement with Shady. Moreover, SlaugherHouse is dead. They can’t come to an agreement with Shady when half of the group has disbanded. [x]
@@kaineshigaraki5253 Hopefully it gets leaked then.
@@KD_SWAGGER It ain’t gonna get leaked by Joell or Crooked. Maybe Joe, I doubt Royce too. Some producers haven’t been paid for their beats yet. They don’t want to do that. Moreover, if it does get leaked, they will be the prime suspects for the investigation. Interscope ain’t gonna just let it slide.
Nobody wants that kind of heat or drama. Joe should just pony up and make Shady an offer to pay for full ownership and release it. He won’t. He cares about himself only. [x]
This is the one right here!!! I'm hyped for this episode. They get better and better and better!!! #Hoffagang
he keeps springing these surprises
Joe not going to give up any info he’s just going to act oblivious through the whole thing
😂😂😂Joe's face after that Math D Luffy reach
S/O to y'all boys though, always got the interesting talks going and bomb guests too
Swear he reached across da city for tht🤣🤣. Reading the title n’ the start of the video had no correlation lls
Yo not the luffy reach GOMU GOMU ass lol
@@devantewinston4865 lmfao 👒
@@easyyeye right lol
lmao glad to see hood anime fans
"30 days to a month"-Joe Budden🤔😂😂Those are the same bruh
One of my favorite TH-cam channels 🔥🔥🔥
Joe should be a politician, he’s good at semantics and avoiding shit and flat out making shit up.
😂😂😂
Cant wait to see the full episode
Let's GO!!!! I'm Hype for This One!
I believe Joe's point was he had long before shitted on Shady before his comments on Eminem's album. That wasn't like the first or final straw. It was the straw after all the other straws had already broken the camel's back
Idk how this was so hard to comprehend
Was joe publicly shitting on shady during 2015 though?? Bc theres a diff between, moving behind close doors and moving publicly, when it comes to this bussiness. Which is what i think hoff was alluring to? Like yes bts, joe was expressive, but the other members still believe they can reel him back, and since em really fucks w 3/4 of them he was willing to wait. But when joe did his thing on the pod. Thats when its finally done. But as joe stated he was already done in his mind, he just never explicitly said it to his brothers... joe has the tendancy to move like this... ex: sending joell the eyes 👀.. he plays mental gymnastics, n then hides behind, "yall just dont see it like joe" but when pressed to show us what he sees, he responds with " those who knows, knows"...
I could b wrong though, and maybe joe has always publicly shitted on shady, during 2015. But i dont remember it to b the case, in fact he had an interview where he commended em for his song "rock bottom" saying how at one point in his life those words spoke to him personally, and that he wasnt good enough at that point in his life to come up with that.
* at that point in his life, meaning when he was 23-28. Not when he made the comment.
Need this full episode ASAP!
So yes he fucked it up
Joe as a rapper is such an underrated lyricist and I can’t understand why. Joe as a person is very narcissistic. I can never look at him the same after why he did to Rory and Mal.
You answered your own question bro lol
@@graymaybe8587 even before then he was still underrated soooo yeah
@@ramonheffe6391 you must not understand how the industries like merge music business work - he’s not good at leveraging or maintaining relationships . He’s good at making art and content . He’s not “underrated” by anyone who took the time out and listened to his catalogue, he just wasn’t as big of an artist as you’d probably like j
@@graymaybe8587 when you say he wasn’t as big of an artist do you mean in reference to popularity?
@@ramonheffe6391 that’s what you’re implying by saying you don’t understand why he’s underrated - but he’s not underrated, everyone says and knows he can rap
talking to Joe Budden is like talking to a grumpy child.
Math was either trolling or sippin to hard bruh that time line that Joe laid out was easy to follow.
Oh look, you actually watched and listened to what was said instead of having your own bias opinion ready to type. Too bad everyone else can't do this
Joe Budden is a strange man with his mental gymnastics. I can only imagine how these conversations were going with the other Slaughterhouse members
You can be more than 1 thing, people are not as monolithic as we try to make them. Joe is CLEARLY a narcissist and it shows daily in basic banter....its exhausting honestly. A point A to B convo turns into gymnastics of the universe. A clear narcissist tactic. While he is an underrated emcee and makes many great points when it comes to business an certain life events.......anytime we get to where he is clearly the problem, he ain't the problem lol smh.
Very well put
@@metalfacedoom4820 lol it's a science to it and I swear he does it everytime smh.
After studying, really studying this game, it's fucking crazy how often the most lyrical talented mothafuckas are narcissists.
What I've learned from Joe when people interview him, is that he will never give you the surface answer to ANYTHING. I can understand how frustrating that can be and how people will write that off as "mental gymnastics", because its never a cut and dry answer to a lot of things that Joe is asked when that's what most people want from him. I am similar in that regard, and it comes from not wanting to be taken out of context or leave things open to other people's interpretation of what you said.
Him refusing to give surface answers doesn’t stop people from misinterpreting his answers. Moreover, it sounds like some coy political BS. Doesn’t give a surface answer, people interpreted it, and then he’s like, “when did I say that.” It sounds manipulative asf. Don’t give people direct answers then agrue over the vagueness of the actual answer given. It’s frustrating to deal with. [x]
But he gave specific answers
Even royce has said over the years that one of the reasons we didn't get Glasshouse was joe wouldn't come back so they could finish what needed to be finished.
Him being buddy-buddy with Joe he probably retracted that statement and let joe off the hook
As a mood muzik fan, as a slaughterhouse fan, as a fan of Joe budden's music, I can Joe was the only bad situation for slaughterhouse, not the shady deal.
Thanks!
Thanks Joe and Math great intel
I like that Joe’s interviews are all on different parts of his life and different dealings
Joe's verse on Slaughterhouse's song Gone has been hittin different the last few months. Check it out if you haven't heard it
Transition with Lloyd Banks also.
Joe still dancing around shit lol
I always thought Joe was a narcissist, yet I was still surprised hearing him refer to himself in 3rd person. LOL
Lol damn I ain’t know Joe was gone pop up in the other chair 🤣🔥🔥
Let's goooo!!!!🔥🔥🔥
There are three albums that must happen ...LOX, OUTKAST,AND SLAUGHTERHOUSE
Nah Joe face be hilarious when he caught off guard 😂😭
Everything sounds different when Math is fact checked... I wish they had someone who could simply Google on every episode. Hoffa is the king of interpretation for entertaining purpose
Joe is an articulated Kanye. Joe is not trying to be PETTY, he REMEMBERS EVERYTHING..Body language explains a lot. He is a human above all else, I am rooting for him..
It’s amazing how many people ask questions and don’t listen to the answer.
I subscribed to the Patreon within 30 seconds of this clip. Nicely done.
ITS HOFFA!!
I love feeling like I'm privy to "man talk" when I watch this channel..& I'm a fan a Joe..I like how you handle him..& press him to tell uncomfortable truths...great content..
The song is “I Will”, it doesn’t include Joe & it doesn’t say that it features slaughterhouse. It says features kxng crooked, Royce Da 5’9”, Joell Ortiz
People saying that Joe doesn’t directly answer questions or goes through mental gymnastics are not hearing the answer they want to hear. The man is giving his answer. Also being in media he understands how shit can get out hand with the wrong response, and now you have to talk about shit in depth that you didn’t want to talk about in depth.
People can not like or understand joe cool but one thing about dude is he's constant on ownership and telling the truth about the music industry to help the public and up and coming kids how dirt they play and I 100% respect that!
more like own sh*t told them folks get out and go get they own sh*t this is his lol
Some Bars from SlaughterMouse: We could disband right now & it's gunna always be love, For a brief period I tried to Rhyme like Ya'll, I was high maybe trying to prove I'm like Ya'll, but I'm not, I suck at all that syllable ish.. I think Joe knows in today's climate he would be looked at as the weakest link in slaughterhouse.
I dont believe anything Budden says
Joe carries himself arrogantly, but if i know anything about Joe, theres always an explanation for it that he consciously chooses not to elaborate. Joe is so entertaining in long form discussions because hes got an almost untraceable opinion pattern. And his quick takes make you think hes either wrong af, or trying to “take it to the next level” like a clickbait take. But everytime he breakes down his perception on things, most of the time he will leave you parallel to him. Idk if thats an art of manipulation, or the fact that in his +40 years of life his experiences and knowledge give him a unique judgement filter that cant be categorized, which full circle gives him the ability to carry himself arrogantly because he doesnt think hes better then anyone in the room, he’ll prove it, when he wants too.
Mighta sounded a lil dick riderish, but im not partial to Joe, i think hes an entertaining podcast host, and prolly an asshole too. He actually still has me blocked on twitter. But my overthinking analysis is just that.
Math Hoffa, in my book, has now surpassed every talk show format, hip hop or otherwise. Dude is, hands down, the dopest interviewer. He has revived the Tax Stone vibe and added a bit a of Math
Ever heard of Million Dollarz Worth of Game??!?!?!
Man I'm not there and Joe's energy is jusy horrible to be round honestly
What was so UNCLEAR about what Joe said? Yall just roll with ANY narrative. He said he DID the album AND 2 mixtapes even after seeing business was BAD. He put out another album, SOLO... RETIRED. STILL NO ALBUM. THEN.... 2-3 years later, he speaks on Eminem's album, which was TRASH, on Everyday Struggle. HOW are yall misconstruing ANY of this or say he's dancing? THIS IS PLAIN ASS ENGLISH.
Math is just a bozo
@@keemzjoseph8085 nigga wanna turn investigative journalist when Joe show up.
Album wasn’t trash people just didn’t give it a chance bc of the features and Joe was one of them.
@@bigken96 that album was 🚮🗑🗑
@@g-holy lol whatever you think Brodie.
Joe has one of my all time favorite pods, but he always gives an embarrassingly bad interview. Dude tried to be clever and vague, but really comes off as a fool.
Why Joe lying? Shady told Joe exactly why the album wasn’t coming out. Shady said they needed more songs, they needed to pick a single, they needed to shoot a video, and had to agree on the tour dates. Joe is the king of lack of accountability. [x]
Joe MAD LYING before trader Joe kicked off his co-creators of his podcast, they reviewed
“I Will”
The Podfather💪🏽🔥💪🏽
Joe being Joe fuked up Slaughterhouse.
They were doomed the second they signed with shady
hoffa gang, here we go again!.
The expert at that “I don’t know what you talking about” lingo
I love how Math is like hiphop Deadpool look right at the 4th wall camera all "can you believe this bullshit".
Need the full episode on Patron!!
Dat The Smoker's Club 420 collection goes hard!! What other 420 collection hitting this year?
This third person ish is crazy 😂 At least he not wearing that Indiana Jones fedora 🤷🏽♂️
Instead of Joe answering questions as “I”, he answers by saying “Joe..” Math is straight up and honest. He sees through that Third Person mentality.
That's right math get the details he's dancing around the question. I would like to see where this interview goes
Joe is a pro. He's playing chess!
Chess with what? With who?
@@cztltnave2342 with himself. Everybody got him figured out.
Joe does nothing but play himself
He is a liar drug addict. Not playing chess or not telling the truth? 😂✌🏽
Referring to yourself in third person is CRAZY
one of the best reverse marketing campaigns ... cant wait for the comeback
Joe Budden was clear as hell as what went on without triggering more Slaughterhouse, Eminem quotes to be used as click bait internet bs..Joe said Em, talked more about his opinions publicly than promote their work! He bit the hand that feeds his guys
Another classic 🙏🏿👏🤲👍🔥
HITTING!!!
It's always interesting seeing Joe and Math conversate,two different perspectives,both respected in the podcast world! It almost looked like a mental stand off at one point tho ,🤣
converse...not conversate
My nigga said “go and stay in a studio for 30 days to a month “ 🥹🤨
30 days to a month is wild 🤣🤣🤣
Hoffa Gang
These Joe clip are the only ones doing real numbers on this channel
When are u going to put the whole broadcast show at one time??.
Talking to Joe has to be maddening b/c listening to him is
Math was finna go crazy on him 😂🔥🔥
Can’t wait
Yes, Royce already said joe owes Em an apology
Royce is bias they both from Detroit lol go back under the stove
@@shuaibfranklin8134 royce and biased. He is friends with both of them. Royce just gives his opinion on how he feels about certain things.
@@shuaibfranklin8134 Joe and Royce are great friends. Fuck are you talking about stove queen
@@shuaibfranklin8134 claiming in your videos y’all “only talk about positivity”.
Royce is more biased towards Joe than em. Have we been listening to the same Royce
Take the Gate off on the audio. When the person speaking is quiet, it gets way too quiet and sound cuts out. If you have lots of people talking at once, then keep it on, but lately you don’t need it. Change it on your machine.
There is other noise that you don't want in the audio it's not just people talking there is background noise from outside air noise from the heater or AC some things you can't just EQ out so you make the gate open at a certain DB rate...quite is good trust me
Shout out to Math for asking Joe what we want to know and not fall for his games
Def Jam,Esther baxter,his first baby mum's,Jay-Z,Tahiry,Kaylin,Cyn, Complex,Charlamgne,Ebro,Mal & Rory, Spotify, Shady, Slaughterhouse,state of the culture, I'm suppose to believe everyone of these was the problem and not Joe ! according to Royce joe will rap again! they get off shady and still nothing from Joe & Royce about rapping with the guy's! Joe preaches about therapy so much it's clearly not working so maybe he should not go therapy anymore.
It has gotten to the point where I genuinely hate this guy and I don't even know him personally. He is despicable
Joe my dude but he told Joel to SMD Switching the Narrative Wow dont do that Joe 🤦♂️
Are u fuckin kidding me, the whole time I’m thinking esso is sippin brown water and he’s out here sippin jameson. Now that’s a plot twist I never expected.