@@daydreamer_55 it was well stablished that the partners of the royals were below them. The sultans wives were treated worse so it isn't an excuse. He knew what he was getting himself into when he married a princess, hes originally a Greek sl@ve married to a blood sultana what did he expect? If it was real life he wouldve gotten behe@ded so I doubt any man would cheat on a blood sultana
This made me laugh entirely too hard. Just imagining a cluster of us as far sassier, blunter friends side eyeing Beyhan while encouraging Hatice to, nah, girl, dump him.
@Dreamfyre2 I tend to agree with you. Both Beyhan and Hatice kind of seem like they'll take it lying down, whilst Sah will respond in force to the littlest transgressions
@Dreamfyre2 exactly. I still remember how dismissive she was of what Mahidevran and Hatice had to tell her about Hurrem being a tough nut to crack. "I'm completely surrounded by incompetent idiots." She must have thought. You could see her in her face whenever she was looking at them. And then she found out that they were right. Frankly, seeing her arrogant sister getting her face buried in the mud, must have been some of amused/pleasures for Hatice and I don't blame her
She's a prime example of a mentally ill person. Hatice needed help. Help nobody was capable or willing to give her. It was hurtful seeing such a beautiful and kind person sinking further and further into the darkness, until there was only a shadow of her former self. Before she decided to end it all 😢
Her value came from attaching to a 'man' and from having that 'placeholder husband' in her life not from being her own self. A lot of women today suffer from the same low self-esteem issues. Life has a way of teaching humans the hard way ... royals or minions, matters not.
Beyhan is the worst sister u can get. Dude been cheating for years and impreg his own servant and all she said is dont divorce him cause he realize his mistakes.. Lol Best advice ever 😂
Selma plays depressed, sad and delusional really well.... Ibrahim is a narcissist, he knows how to get into weak woman's minds but an Alpha female like Hurrem he can't handle. Also I find it funny that Nasun Efendi has a problem with Hurrem Sultan when he follows behind the man who stole his happiness. And isn't it treason to speak on the Sultans wife in such a way.
@@captainfoxheart exactly. It's just her character. From what I heard, in real life, Selma ergec, the actress who played Hatice is very approachable and friendly.
That’s what happens when you choose broke. Didn’t he pursue her? Why us everyone acting like her feeling betrayed is anything out of the ordinary or an overreaction? Women who marry the sultan know very well they have to share. Hatice by her birth was a princess, who marriee a normie. Why should she accept such disloyalty?
"I can't live without Ibrahim." I don't know about you, guys, but upon hearing those words coming out of Hatice's mouth, I wanted to get inside the screen, smack her at the back of her head and give her a real earful: You can and you will! Look at the situation, Hatice! Have you no honour? No dignity? Is this how you wanted to be treated? With ridicule and mockery? Is this the man you think you deserve? A man who vents his inferiority complex by sleeping with servants and fathering children, while he expects and demands of you to honour your marital vows? This man doesn't love you, Hatice! This man doesn't care about you, Hatice! The only thing he cared about was the prestige and power he could get by becoming the sultan's brother-in-law. And now that he got them, as well as a kid or two, you are no longer of use to him. I'd then take a few breaths. After all, I'd need to calm down and Hatice needs a while to process all this ranting. Hatice, I am your friend. I only want what's best for you. Even though I am not a person who will coddle you, like you're used to. You deserve way better. I am not going to tell you what to do, but I think that a divorce is the only reasonable and honourable option. If you don't want to remarry, it's your right. But please, please, listen to what I've said to you. Don't let Ibrahim and Mahidevran get to you. They don't get to decide for you. You get to decide for you.
Well, I know I'm no princess. I faced a similar situation. After 6 years of relationship I found out he had been cheating on me for 4 years and got his side chick pregnant. Because she made him "feel good about himself" ( still he didn’t want to leave me 🤷♀️). He only confessed when that girl stopped taking her birth control and got pregnant on purpose 🤣 I didn’t give it a second thought. I dumped him right on the spot and moved on. I thought I couldn't live without him but still I walked away from that relationship. And trust me I'm doing much better now. Everyone should know their worth. Whoever he / she is.
@@ellsloughland8972 I see you angle. And frankly, it hurts me to see her going down like that. I just hoped that perhaps a more blunt shaking would have helped her more than the coddling and dismissals she gets all the time. After all, we all have to face the truth. Sometimes in harsher way than we'd have liked
But remember that as much as I dislike Ibrahim's character, Hatice called him a slave. Of course he is her subject, but she didn't have to humiliate him like this - if my husband would say so, I would be also very angry. So yes, he cheated on her which is terrible in any way, but she also treated people (Hürrem, Ibrahim,etc) like she was better than them with no reason. Because at first Hürrem was her friend. So, she married Ibrahim and befriended Hürrem still seeing them as slaves?
@@nielubieinceli I see your point. Frankly, I think that Hatice had genuine feelings for both Hurrem and Ibrahim. Sadly, the doctrine she was raised under (the bllod of the dynasty is the only reason you need to make others respect, obey and fear you) outweights these feelings. Even Hatice, who admittedly is the most genuine and kindhearted among the sultanas of her generation (and some even claim of those in the next) couldn't escape that.
I actually feel bad for Ibrahim and Nigar. Technically, they were both servants. Ibrahim even talked to Nasuh Efendi about leaving everything behind (including his high-ranking position) and living a normal life with his woman. Nasuh Efendi laughed and said that Hatice would never go with him and live like that. But Ibrahim was talking about Nigar, not Hatice. I remember watching much of this series and finding Hatice to be the most annoying and self-entitled woman in the entire show. Hatice had frequent episodes of severe depression and paranoia about being cursed, even when Ibrahim was faithful to her. Someone like Hatice would drive me mad. None of the other women in the show were anywhere near as bad as Hatice. Ultimately, Hatice should’ve listened to Mahidevran before Hurrem became too powerful. But she didn’t, and that led to her own miserable demise.
I don't mind Hatice. She was sheltered and spoiled. She grew up as the daughter of a Sultan. What else did she know? I wish they showed more of Ibrahim struggling with his place in life. They do a bit with his monologues, but they could have done more. Ultimately, he was right. Who was he? Were they really in love? Was he really Suleiman's friend and brother? How is it true if you're a slave? And then, eventually, he was murdered. What's really sad is that even after Ibrahim tried to explain, Hatice still didn't understand. Maybe she did later. I like to think she did forgive him a bit. She did mourn his death.
@@linaasia8674 Everyone is ultimately a "slave" compared to the dynasty. That was his point. Even though Ibrahim was granted all kinds of honors and amenities by the Sultan, he was always going to be beholden to them. Hurrem (in the show) had the same realization.
What do you expect? She actually was born into royalty being the sister of the sultan she does not know how to act any other way. She’s come from privilege and she has a Narrow vision for her life. Even though she was brought up in the harem, she should’ve kinda expected him to have other women just like hurrem and mahidevran Should’ve expected the same thing out of the sultan, but they both expected them to act in a certain way
And yet, this person managed to taint almost everyone around him. Suleiman and Hurrem? He initiated them in the "arts" of cruelty and pettiness. Hatice and Nigar? Two so beautiful, elegant, passionate and intelligent women brought themselves to ruin because Ibrahim made them think that life without him is meaningless. Mustafa? His example helped him become headstrong, reckless and disobedient
When ibrahim gives hurrem and leo options.. Who will leave the room alive.. Who will eat poison Hatice should do the same.. So ibrahim & nigar will kill their love that day...
@@nenisguevaragomez8122 yes, I am Greek. And you have no idea how many people watch Turkish series. Normally I wouldn't either. I came across Selma Ergec playing Hatice by accident and what can I say? I kinda fell in love with the way this actress plays
@@ΔημΣΚ and Suleiman. He gave her room to back down from her original decision to divorce Ibrahim. If he had just granted that divorce we wouldn't have been in this mess. Plus, Hurrem's sarcastic, cruel japes didn't help things either
@@ΔημΣΚ a person who's objective should have done that. But Hatice had never been such a person and Hurrem knew that. No. She should have kept on leaving leads for Hatice to follow. Leads that didn't link her to them. That way Hatice wouldn't have been able to blame Hurrem for this mess. Oh and her sarcastic, cruel japes, as well as the fact that she took over Hafsa's appartment with such audacity didn't help things either
@@ΔημΣΚ no. She did the most spiteful thing. She wanted to make the hurt that much more personal. And I can't understand what exactly was she expecting. That Hatice would thank her? That she'd bend the knee and pledge everlasting loyalty and support?
A rule established for centuries: NEVER place yourself above the Other that you say you Love! Hatice did this by humiliating her husband. It leaves a deep scar in a heart. Her husband went to Nigar to find a simple woman before whom he did not have to bow, and this is still valid today. She should have questioned herself and come down from her pedestal. But it’s easier to call yourself a blameless victim. She will pay the price later. Hardly.
Ibrahim is just being a normal man for his time. With the feelings of any other normal man. He has never made any pretenses of being a saint or a monk.
Well. no. He was aware, that when it comes to marry a sultana, there are different laws. Sultana could refuse sleeping with her husband, he wasn't allowed to mistreat a sultana, etc. Such as Suleiman punished Lutfi for beating Shah. And if Mihrimah would tell him, that Rustem was abusive towards her, he would be at least exiled, not only ecause Suleiman adored his daughteer, but according to a law. Rustem wasn't even allowed to raise a voice for Mihrimah or talk to her without respect. Cheating on sultana was punishable by death.
No he wasn't. To be married to the Sultan sister and betray her for a servant could get you killed back then. It would have been an insult to the dynasty. This is where the Sultan started to question his loyalty.
Hatice is the embodiment of the well-meaning but sheltered and spoiled/childish princess. Her sheltered and overly indulgently upbringing never allowed her the chance to learn, grow and mature. Especially since she was also coping with mental illness
Hatice is the embodiment of the well-meaning but sheltered and spoiled/childish princess. Her sheltered and overly indulgently upbringing never allowed her the chance to learn, grow and mature. Especially since she was also coping with mental illness
No, as he was a subject and a slave married to a sultana. He wasn’t allowed to have other women, that’s why his affair with Nigar was punishable by death.
Look at Ibrahim gaslighting hatice into thinking it's all her fault. Man got good manipulation and gaslighting skills
@@daydreamer_55 it was well stablished that the partners of the royals were below them. The sultans wives were treated worse so it isn't an excuse. He knew what he was getting himself into when he married a princess, hes originally a Greek sl@ve married to a blood sultana what did he expect? If it was real life he wouldve gotten behe@ded so I doubt any man would cheat on a blood sultana
@@daydreamer_55 in real life this wouldn't happen. Hatice had no political power at all, she wouldn't dare to act in such ways
You don’t think a spoiled brat would act badly?
Just like Hurrem 😅
So very true.
"It doesn't have to be that way, Hatice. You don't have to divorce him."
Beyhan, I like and respect you well enough. But please, stop right there
This made me laugh entirely too hard. Just imagining a cluster of us as far sassier, blunter friends side eyeing Beyhan while encouraging Hatice to, nah, girl, dump him.
@@Redluna32 you just made my evening.
Gods, Beyhan would be receiving so many glares... poor girl 😂😂
@@Redluna32Beyhan probs projecting because she misses her own moron husband.
@Dreamfyre2 I tend to agree with you. Both Beyhan and Hatice kind of seem like they'll take it lying down, whilst Sah will respond in force to the littlest transgressions
@Dreamfyre2 exactly. I still remember how dismissive she was of what Mahidevran and Hatice had to tell her about Hurrem being a tough nut to crack.
"I'm completely surrounded by incompetent idiots." She must have thought. You could see her in her face whenever she was looking at them.
And then she found out that they were right. Frankly, seeing her arrogant sister getting her face buried in the mud, must have been some of amused/pleasures for Hatice and I don't blame her
Gaslighting Hatice after sleeping with Nigar. She made him do it apparently
Hatice was so fickle. First she loved him, then she didn’t, then she did, then she didn’t, then she couldn’t live without him. Jeeezzz!
She's a prime example of a mentally ill person. Hatice needed help. Help nobody was capable or willing to give her.
It was hurtful seeing such a beautiful and kind person sinking further and further into the darkness, until there was only a shadow of her former self. Before she decided to end it all 😢
Her value came from attaching to a 'man' and from having that 'placeholder husband' in her life not from being her own self. A lot of women today suffer from the same low self-esteem issues. Life has a way of teaching humans the hard way ... royals or minions, matters not.
She always “loved “ him . Actually she was obsessed with him . All her life revolved around him .
Beyhan is the worst sister u can get. Dude been cheating for years and impreg his own servant and all she said is dont divorce him cause he realize his mistakes.. Lol Best advice ever 😂
Ikr? Frankly, Beyhan advising Hatice to forgive Ibrahim made me wish Sah-Huban being there
No. Fatma & Shah Huban are the worst of the sisters! They eventually got what they deserved.
Selma plays depressed, sad and delusional really well.... Ibrahim is a narcissist, he knows how to get into weak woman's minds but an Alpha female like Hurrem he can't handle. Also I find it funny that Nasun Efendi has a problem with Hurrem Sultan when he follows behind the man who stole his happiness. And isn't it treason to speak on the Sultans wife in such a way.
Fr I was thinking the same
Tf is a Alpha female, lmao
Hatice’s actress is so good!!
I feel like I can watch her playing for hours
She's so good I feel like she's probably a spoiled jerk in real life too LOL granted she got cheated on and that's awful but just her character
@@captainfoxheart exactly. It's just her character.
From what I heard, in real life, Selma ergec, the actress who played Hatice is very approachable and friendly.
They are all amazing, so strong
And to think that sultana Hatice gave up to karry a royal prince from a foreign country just to be with Ibrahim Passa and he betrayed her like this
That’s what happens when you choose broke. Didn’t he pursue her? Why us everyone acting like her feeling betrayed is anything out of the ordinary or an overreaction? Women who marry the sultan know very well they have to share. Hatice by her birth was a princess, who marriee a normie. Why should she accept such disloyalty?
"I can't live without Ibrahim."
I don't know about you, guys, but upon hearing those words coming out of Hatice's mouth, I wanted to get inside the screen, smack her at the back of her head and give her a real earful:
You can and you will! Look at the situation, Hatice! Have you no honour? No dignity? Is this how you wanted to be treated? With ridicule and mockery? Is this the man you think you deserve? A man who vents his inferiority complex by sleeping with servants and fathering children, while he expects and demands of you to honour your marital vows? This man doesn't love you, Hatice! This man doesn't care about you, Hatice! The only thing he cared about was the prestige and power he could get by becoming the sultan's brother-in-law. And now that he got them, as well as a kid or two, you are no longer of use to him.
I'd then take a few breaths. After all, I'd need to calm down and Hatice needs a while to process all this ranting.
Hatice, I am your friend. I only want what's best for you. Even though I am not a person who will coddle you, like you're used to. You deserve way better. I am not going to tell you what to do, but I think that a divorce is the only reasonable and honourable option. If you don't want to remarry, it's your right. But please, please, listen to what I've said to you. Don't let Ibrahim and Mahidevran get to you. They don't get to decide for you. You get to decide for you.
Well, I know I'm no princess. I faced a similar situation. After 6 years of relationship I found out he had been cheating on me for 4 years and got his side chick pregnant. Because she made him "feel good about himself" ( still he didn’t want to leave me 🤷♀️). He only confessed when that girl stopped taking her birth control and got pregnant on purpose 🤣
I didn’t give it a second thought. I dumped him right on the spot and moved on. I thought I couldn't live without him but still I walked away from that relationship. And trust me I'm doing much better now.
Everyone should know their worth. Whoever he / she is.
@@musnunaman9361 you said it beautifully. And I am glad you made the right choice
@@ellsloughland8972 I see you angle. And frankly, it hurts me to see her going down like that.
I just hoped that perhaps a more blunt shaking would have helped her more than the coddling and dismissals she gets all the time.
After all, we all have to face the truth. Sometimes in harsher way than we'd have liked
But remember that as much as I dislike Ibrahim's character, Hatice called him a slave. Of course he is her subject, but she didn't have to humiliate him like this - if my husband would say so, I would be also very angry. So yes, he cheated on her which is terrible in any way, but she also treated people (Hürrem, Ibrahim,etc) like she was better than them with no reason. Because at first Hürrem was her friend. So, she married Ibrahim and befriended Hürrem still seeing them as slaves?
@@nielubieinceli I see your point.
Frankly, I think that Hatice had genuine feelings for both Hurrem and Ibrahim.
Sadly, the doctrine she was raised under (the bllod of the dynasty is the only reason you need to make others respect, obey and fear you) outweights these feelings.
Even Hatice, who admittedly is the most genuine and kindhearted among the sultanas of her generation (and some even claim of those in the next) couldn't escape that.
I actually feel bad for Ibrahim and Nigar. Technically, they were both servants. Ibrahim even talked to Nasuh Efendi about leaving everything behind (including his high-ranking position) and living a normal life with his woman. Nasuh Efendi laughed and said that Hatice would never go with him and live like that. But Ibrahim was talking about Nigar, not Hatice. I remember watching much of this series and finding Hatice to be the most annoying and self-entitled woman in the entire show. Hatice had frequent episodes of severe depression and paranoia about being cursed, even when Ibrahim was faithful to her. Someone like Hatice would drive me mad. None of the other women in the show were anywhere near as bad as Hatice. Ultimately, Hatice should’ve listened to Mahidevran before Hurrem became too powerful. But she didn’t, and that led to her own miserable demise.
Yup
I don't mind Hatice. She was sheltered and spoiled. She grew up as the daughter of a Sultan. What else did she know? I wish they showed more of Ibrahim struggling with his place in life. They do a bit with his monologues, but they could have done more. Ultimately, he was right. Who was he? Were they really in love? Was he really Suleiman's friend and brother? How is it true if you're a slave? And then, eventually, he was murdered. What's really sad is that even after Ibrahim tried to explain, Hatice still didn't understand. Maybe she did later. I like to think she did forgive him a bit. She did mourn his death.
@@hunnyflash In real life Ibrahim wasn't a slave, he was tutored as a kid and that's it. Show writers add drama
@@linaasia8674 Everyone is ultimately a "slave" compared to the dynasty. That was his point. Even though Ibrahim was granted all kinds of honors and amenities by the Sultan, he was always going to be beholden to them. Hurrem (in the show) had the same realization.
What do you expect? She actually was born into royalty being the sister of the sultan she does not know how to act any other way. She’s come from privilege and she has a Narrow vision for her life. Even though she was brought up in the harem, she should’ve kinda expected him to have other women just like hurrem and mahidevran Should’ve expected the same thing out of the sultan, but they both expected them to act in a certain way
Saddest part is, only Nigar suffered. Ibrahim should ha e suffered the same fate.
And yet, this person managed to taint almost everyone around him.
Suleiman and Hurrem? He initiated them in the "arts" of cruelty and pettiness.
Hatice and Nigar? Two so beautiful, elegant, passionate and intelligent women brought themselves to ruin because Ibrahim made them think that life without him is meaningless.
Mustafa? His example helped him become headstrong, reckless and disobedient
How did they keep those palaces cool during the terrible heat of summer? Judging from their clothes they don't seem to be feeling very hot.
I always wonder that also!
Fountains ⛲. The constantly moving water helps to minimize heat in a space.
With a SERVANT!?!? 🤯🤢🤮
-Hatice
Well yes! She was a Sultana a member of the dynasty, beloved sister of Sultan Suleiman, hellooooo😂
The servant was a better feminine woman than the so called "angel faced" sultana who just had power for nothing 😂
So it's Hatice's fault for Ibrahim's infidelity!
Typical Narcicist!
When ibrahim gives hurrem and leo options.. Who will leave the room alive.. Who will eat poison
Hatice should do the same..
So ibrahim & nigar will kill their love that day...
That would indeed be nice. Sadly, Hatice just doesn't have it in herself to do these things. Unlike Sah-Huban, she's not a killer
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μcome on!! Don't compare both situations, Hatice was not impious like Ibrahim.
@@nenisguevaragomez8122 no. She wasn't. In fact, I don't even think that Hatice is a bad person. She's ill, misguided and in pain
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ are you Greek? I thought you people didn't watch Turkish series😅
@@nenisguevaragomez8122 yes, I am Greek. And you have no idea how many people watch Turkish series. Normally I wouldn't either. I came across Selma Ergec playing Hatice by accident and what can I say? I kinda fell in love with the way this actress plays
Hatice woke up for... One episode
Well, Suleiman, Mahidevran, Gulfem and even Hurrem made sure she'd fall asleep all over again
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ only mahidevran and gulfem
@@ΔημΣΚ and Suleiman. He gave her room to back down from her original decision to divorce Ibrahim. If he had just granted that divorce we wouldn't have been in this mess.
Plus, Hurrem's sarcastic, cruel japes didn't help things either
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ ... Suleiman indeed shouldn't said that to her but hatice is still lucky it was hurrem sultan and not kosem sultan
@@ΔημΣΚ she would have roasted Hatice alive, right?
Honestly Ibrahim had it coming, if he wasn't beheaded the moment he cheated on the Sultan s sister, he would AT SOME POINT
All of the acting is stellar
Hurrem recived nothing from this but another headache,she got that brainless witch against her forever 😢
Ibrahim the arrogant betrayer is completely at fault.
He never once said he was sorry, instead tried to blame her..such a scum
Hurrem sultanas victory!
actually Hurrrem's headache. Because of the poor way she handled that matter Hatice became one of her most percistent enemies
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ she should have thanked her for revealing it
@@ΔημΣΚ a person who's objective should have done that. But Hatice had never been such a person and Hurrem knew that.
No. She should have kept on leaving leads for Hatice to follow. Leads that didn't link her to them. That way Hatice wouldn't have been able to blame Hurrem for this mess.
Oh and her sarcastic, cruel japes, as well as the fact that she took over Hafsa's appartment with such audacity didn't help things either
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ she did the best thing she could have out of respect. Hatice was lucky kosem sultan wasn't there.
@@ΔημΣΚ no. She did the most spiteful thing. She wanted to make the hurt that much more personal.
And I can't understand what exactly was she expecting.
That Hatice would thank her? That she'd bend the knee and pledge everlasting loyalty and support?
A rule established for centuries: NEVER place yourself above the Other that you say you Love! Hatice did this by humiliating her husband. It leaves a deep scar in a heart. Her husband went to Nigar to find a simple woman before whom he did not have to bow, and this is still valid today. She should have questioned herself and come down from her pedestal. But it’s easier to call yourself a blameless victim. She will pay the price later. Hardly.
21:33 Gülfem?
Nigar.
This scene was cut, that’s why you heard sultan suleyman voice calling Gülfem. Please watch the full episode
Артист играющий Ибрагима просто гений так играть браво
And it's all fair for Sultan suleyman hatice
And Hatice s end is exactly why you should divorce after your spouse cheats on you
Ibrahim is just being a normal man for his time. With the feelings of any other normal man. He has never made any pretenses of being a saint or a monk.
Exactly
Well. no. He was aware, that when it comes to marry a sultana, there are different laws. Sultana could refuse sleeping with her husband, he wasn't allowed to mistreat a sultana, etc. Such as Suleiman punished Lutfi for beating Shah. And if Mihrimah would tell him, that Rustem was abusive towards her, he would be at least exiled, not only ecause Suleiman adored his daughteer, but according to a law. Rustem wasn't even allowed to raise a voice for Mihrimah or talk to her without respect.
Cheating on sultana was punishable by death.
No he wasn't. To be married to the Sultan sister and betray her for a servant could get you killed back then. It would have been an insult to the dynasty. This is where the Sultan started to question his loyalty.
I don’t like her role she is like a little girl and seems a little crazy like mentally
Hatice is the embodiment of the well-meaning but sheltered and spoiled/childish princess.
Her sheltered and overly indulgently upbringing never allowed her the chance to learn, grow and mature.
Especially since she was also coping with mental illness
I shall comment later after dinner, thank 🤙you❗❕❤️💙🍃🌹
This. Episode. I. Salute. Ibrahim. Paasha. Whatever he. Doing mistakes. But. Night. Ghana. Pregnant heagreed. I. So that. Place he. Innocent. Man😢😢😢😢😢😢
What?!?!?
Oops! The look on Ibrahim’s face says it all. What a scumbag!
Ibrahim master of self pity!
Hatices character is annoying
Hatice is the embodiment of the well-meaning but sheltered and spoiled/childish princess.
Her sheltered and overly indulgently upbringing never allowed her the chance to learn, grow and mature.
Especially since she was also coping with mental illness
What about the 4 wives? Isn't he supposed to have them?
Ibrahim can have 4 wives but hatice would never allow as the first wife
it wasnt even allowed to get 4 wives only hatice can decide on tht since she is is the king sister
No, as he was a subject and a slave married to a sultana. He wasn’t allowed to have other women, that’s why his affair with Nigar was punishable by death.
Hatice part is always boring
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Ibrahim master of self pity!