She said "not only am I the treasurer but I am also a woman of the Sultan" "you will respect me the way I respect you"....she put her in her place buy was respectful and dignified
Mahidevran couldn't stand on her own feet..she always beg others help ibrahim,valide sultan,hatice sultan,shah sultan etc. she probably couldn't gain anything from her own to fight with hurrem. She always think that she is so special by having Mustafa as a crown prince so pity!
I mean, the Ottoman Empire operated on an open succession, without any such thing as a "crown prince" so Mahidevran didn't even have that 😅Still, I think what actually became Mahidevran's downfall was precisely that her allies kept coddling and shielding her from all harm and consequences. She never really got the chance to learn how to stand on her own in comparison to Hürrem.
Даже Валидэ уже намекнула Махидевран, что у неё нет ума и живёт она чужим умом. Именно такая и нужна мать наследника Ибрагиму, которую можно будет потом подчинить себе. Сынок тоже не очень далеко ушёл от матери. И его можно под себя согнуть. Именно поэтому все и стояли горой за Мустафу.
That’s happen when you get to much support and help from the others ! If you are all alone and struggle all your life alone you will grow stronger and in the end you will need no one to lift you up !😊
I agreed with these three comments. Mahidrevan would never learn to stand on her own two feet. She surrounded herself with people who had ulterior motives like Ibrahim, and the suleyman's sisters. Because she could be manupilated and used as she used other people's minds, to quote valide sultan.
Hurrem is the epitome of "if you want something done right, do it yourself." 😂😂😂😂😂 It's the way she had Ibrahim in such a bind that he couldn't even help Mahidveran this time. 😂😂😂😂😂
Like it the way you sum the whole thing up .... mahidrevan couldn't do that by herself because now all the people she depended on were going to be exposed because of their wicked deeds against Hureem and her children. 😅😅
@@jeannerogers7085 she was a slave. Everything on her was suleyman’s property. She couldn’t sell anything. (For some reason my earlier comment was taken down)
I never understood why Gulfem was so close to Mahidevran with everything that happened. She always belittled her, but Hurrem respected her... I guess for Hatice but...
@@nwilliams2132 Yes, Gulfem seems self-contradictory - on the one hand, speaking sensibly at times and even correcting Mahidevran, but on the other hand, submissively going along with her selfish, cruel and hateful schemes.
Gulfem's just a "follower" not a "leader". Not like Hureem who could survive on her own wits and she didn't need anyone except Suleyman and her children to survive.
Poor crybaby Mahidevran, her tantrums weren't going to work forever. She acted like a spoiled child and thought that just because she birthed the crown prince, she was untouchable and despite finding out the hard way several times, she never learned. Honestly, Hurrem didn't have to do anything, this was all her and her greed and arrogance.
Like it how you put it. So sad ... she's supposed to groom mustafa her son to be the crown prince and she messed it up for him ... what a pity and with all the help and advices from valide sultan, to Ibrahim the grand vizier to all the sultan's sisters. What a waste ....
@@jennylaw6820 It really was. Because I think to the core of who he was as a person (in the show mind you. obviously we don't know who they were for real) he was a good man and had good intentions. Unfortunately, nobody else including his mother did. She literally told Hurrem to her face that when mustafa took the throne, her kids were going to die. What was Hurrem supposed to do at that point? We knew what she was capable of even without that threat, once that threat was issued, it was over. And good people died because of it. And at the end of the day, the one person nobody wanted on the throne ended up taking it. A total waste.
Lol, even though mahidevran was a sultana, she bowed Ibrahim pasha, but Ibrahim didn't bow him. That's the proof that she doesn't even know her worth, and how to act and manage everything like a sultana, instead she was spending money without thinking twice.
@@Mal_hunny she is the first sultana to give birth to Mustafa the crown heir of Sultan Suleiman, she was the hasiki sultan in the harem, until hurrem sultan came..
People seem to forget that Mahidevran did to Gulfem, the same as Hurrem does to her. I hate that because her children died, she is no longer called Sultana and is treated so poorly. Mahidevran and Valide both treat Gulfem like a servant.
Why Ibrahim always helping mahidevran and mustafa all the time even though they don’t have any his blood line and even didn’t like other prince. He keep protecting them from all mistakes they made.
Because it makes Mahidevran and Mustafa indebted and beholden to him. Hurrem is too strong for Ibrahim to put under his thumb. He needs a heir and a queen mother he can control.
Well , atleast in the series , they mentioned many times that ibrahim practically raised him so he would always favor him . But personally I also noticed that later on his relationship was prince mehmet easn't bad , and that mehmet admired him enough to question his excution , makes me wonder how his relationship with all the princes would have been .
@@ejonaagaraj1022you're so right. Ibrahim knew that he could manupilate both mother and son. But not Hureem. He wanted to make the brainless mother and son to be indebted to him.
Yes....a 15 th century concubine in harem wears jewelry for her self satisfaction.........I was wrong and don't compare modern girls with those women ,it was a different age
She said "not only am I the treasurer but I am also a woman of the Sultan" "you will respect me the way I respect you"....she put her in her place buy was respectful and dignified
Mahidivran spent a lot of time with Walida Sultan more than Hurrem even. But she couldn't even learned that how to run Harem.
Gulfem is so beautiful and eligant. She should have been put in charge of the harem even if her children are dead
Gulfem is like a street pole...you don't even realize it's there until you accidentally walk into it 😂
@@random_thoughts5343 however that not being noticed thingy can be very useful as well as offering a safety net.
She was more well balanced than most of them, but she wouldn't have been able to keep up with the power plays that came with running the harem.
A lot of times I feel bad for Mahidevran but looking back at all these scenes she did everything to herself
Bingo been saying this
mahidevran and her stupidity 😂😂😂, her look when Ibrahim told her he is tired picking up after her for year, I enjoyed so much
Mahidevran couldn't stand on her own feet..she always beg others help ibrahim,valide sultan,hatice sultan,shah sultan etc. she probably couldn't gain anything from her own to fight with hurrem. She always think that she is so special by having Mustafa as a crown prince so pity!
I mean, the Ottoman Empire operated on an open succession, without any such thing as a "crown prince" so Mahidevran didn't even have that 😅Still, I think what actually became Mahidevran's downfall was precisely that her allies kept coddling and shielding her from all harm and consequences. She never really got the chance to learn how to stand on her own in comparison to Hürrem.
Даже Валидэ уже намекнула Махидевран, что у неё нет ума и живёт она чужим умом. Именно такая и нужна мать наследника Ибрагиму, которую можно будет потом подчинить себе. Сынок тоже не очень далеко ушёл от матери. И его можно под себя согнуть. Именно поэтому все и стояли горой за Мустафу.
That’s happen when you get to much support and help from the others ! If you are all alone and struggle all your life alone you will grow stronger and in the end you will need no one to lift you up !😊
I agreed with these three comments. Mahidrevan would never learn to stand on her own two feet. She surrounded herself with people who had ulterior motives like Ibrahim, and the suleyman's sisters. Because she could be manupilated and used as she used other people's minds, to quote valide sultan.
@@jennylaw6820yes . 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
even ibrahim was like “you’re beefing with hurrem and you’re scared the sultan will find out?”
Hurrem is the epitome of "if you want something done right, do it yourself." 😂😂😂😂😂 It's the way she had Ibrahim in such a bind that he couldn't even help Mahidveran this time. 😂😂😂😂😂
Like it the way you sum the whole thing up .... mahidrevan couldn't do that by herself because now all the people she depended on were going to be exposed because of their wicked deeds against Hureem and her children. 😅😅
The Lady could sell just one of the marvelous pieces of jewelry she has, and finance a great deal of any event.
She couldn’t. She is a slave. Everything she has is owned by Suleyman.
I don't think it's allowed to sell things from the palace.
@@jeannerogers7085 she was a slave. Everything on her was suleyman’s property. She couldn’t sell anything. (For some reason my earlier comment was taken down)
@@tinadelada3828she didn't actually have that right
Even if she could sell her arrogance and foolishness won't allow that
Seeing this seems like everyone only wanted Magidevran in power because she could never be more powerful than them 😅
👍👏👏👏
Mahidevran had speeches and taunts for Hurrem, and yet Hurrem always kills her with those zingers.
She always had to swallow her word when it came to Hurrem 😂😂😂
I never understood why Gulfem was so close to Mahidevran with everything that happened. She always belittled her, but Hurrem respected her... I guess for Hatice but...
Exactly, it’s weird how no matter what Gulfem never seemed to like Hurrem who was never disrespectful
@@nwilliams2132 Yes, Gulfem seems self-contradictory
- on the one hand, speaking sensibly at times and even correcting Mahidevran, but on the other hand, submissively going along with her selfish, cruel and hateful schemes.
Gulfem's just a "follower" not a "leader". Not like Hureem who could survive on her own wits and she didn't need anyone except Suleyman and her children to survive.
Poor crybaby Mahidevran, her tantrums weren't going to work forever. She acted like a spoiled child and thought that just because she birthed the crown prince, she was untouchable and despite finding out the hard way several times, she never learned. Honestly, Hurrem didn't have to do anything, this was all her and her greed and arrogance.
what episode is this
Like it how you put it. So sad ... she's supposed to groom mustafa her son to be the crown prince and she messed it up for him ... what a pity and with all the help and advices from valide sultan, to Ibrahim the grand vizier to all the sultan's sisters. What a waste ....
@@jennylaw6820 It really was. Because I think to the core of who he was as a person (in the show mind you. obviously we don't know who they were for real) he was a good man and had good intentions. Unfortunately, nobody else including his mother did. She literally told Hurrem to her face that when mustafa took the throne, her kids were going to die. What was Hurrem supposed to do at that point? We knew what she was capable of even without that threat, once that threat was issued, it was over. And good people died because of it. And at the end of the day, the one person nobody wanted on the throne ended up taking it. A total waste.
Mahidevran seems to be a selfish cunning brainless person . Whereas Hurrem acted very smart and sweet and both beautiful and powerful brainy lady.🎉🎉
Like devill
25.37 - Ibrahim realising he's been rooting for the most idiot Sultana for years🤣😂😂🤣
The Mahidevran of the show is pretty useless at everything. It's quite shocking that many people clearly saw her glaring shortcomings, yet let her be.
Ah Mahidevran, lost in the Big City, doing everything wrong.
Lol, even though mahidevran was a sultana, she bowed Ibrahim pasha, but Ibrahim didn't bow him. That's the proof that she doesn't even know her worth, and how to act and manage everything like a sultana, instead she was spending money without thinking twice.
No mahidevran was not a sultan specially in history and I don't think she saw her self as a sultana either as that would have her killed
@@Mal_hunny she is the first sultana to give birth to Mustafa the crown heir of Sultan Suleiman, she was the hasiki sultan in the harem, until hurrem sultan came..
@@shoily8036History wise the haseki title didn t exist until Hurrem. It was created for her.
@@shoily8036 yea the haseki title was literally made for hurrem
@@isabella.elenaa I meant in the show
People seem to forget that Mahidevran did to Gulfem, the same as Hurrem does to her.
I hate that because her children died, she is no longer called Sultana and is treated so poorly. Mahidevran and Valide both treat Gulfem like a servant.
Mahidevran is no shame. Shameless woman. She borrowed others money and shouting and treatening other no shame.
4:37 if Gülfem just stayed like this🙏🏻
Why Ibrahim always helping mahidevran and mustafa all the time even though they don’t have any his blood line and even didn’t like other prince. He keep protecting them from all mistakes they made.
Because it makes Mahidevran and Mustafa indebted and beholden to him. Hurrem is too strong for Ibrahim to put under his thumb. He needs a heir and a queen mother he can control.
Well , atleast in the series , they mentioned many times that ibrahim practically raised him so he would always favor him . But personally I also noticed that later on his relationship was prince mehmet easn't bad , and that mehmet admired him enough to question his excution , makes me wonder how his relationship with all the princes would have been .
@@ejonaagaraj1022you're so right. Ibrahim knew that he could manupilate both mother and son. But not Hureem. He wanted to make the brainless mother and son to be indebted to him.
Mahidevran,such a silly woman...
Gulfem is so much more lovely than Mahidevran.
I always had that one questions.......why is mahidevran always bedecked in jewels....when nobody is interested in her?
Lots of girls wear jewelry for themselves. Even if no one is interested. Jewelry isn’t only worn for people who are not interested in you.
So stupid question👎.Mahidevran was always elengance and concerned about her look.
9:18 Lmao destroyed in seconds
Yes....a 15 th century concubine in harem wears jewelry for her self satisfaction.........I was wrong and don't compare modern girls with those women ,it was a different age
why mahivendran bow to ibrahim... and ibrahim dont bow back to her, she was sultan and ibrahim was pasha... she undervalue herself...
26:52 iconic scene
Mahidevran is a gold digger😂
Nobody cant love snake
I much appreciate the survival wits of Hurrem, but the malice of that scheming redhead makes a lot of trouble in the harem.
Hahahaha bye bye mahidevil you lost
Hurrem is evil,she pay this dogs to hit Hulfem👎
She to stupid to have such as responsibility.she is beautiful i am not gonna lie.but no brains.always crying to Ibrahim and valide 😂
@@luizadoca210 haha no she's good
@@ΔημΣΚ ,in your dreams
Mahideveran too much greedy that's what she deserves😂
what episode is this
13:41 hahahaha
😂😂😂😂
lol the stupiditiy has no end
*9:34* D@MN!
Jews have been progressive and prosperous throughout history...here also the palace is borrowing from jew business women...
Hurrem did it again, bish please