Jim Cornette on Jim Barnett
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2019
- From Episode 117 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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The first 40 seconds of this video is probably what ever conversation Jim Barnett had with every wrestler that ever got a push while he was in power sounded like.
The thing I remember about Barnett is that he was not worried about people knowing he was gay in a time when it was illegal . Instead he kept secret that he was Jewish .
Whenever i hear the name Jim Barnett, i think of Jim Ross' impression of him lol
Ole Anderson's impression of Jim Barnett is hilarious.
What is that THANG? 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Oh Mandy,
How you stabbed me,
And shot me,
And tazed me.
They gonna put you away.
Oh Mandy...
It's funny that in a macho world in pro wrestling the two greatest minds was two gay guys,Jim Barnett and pat Patterson...oh I forgot it's 3...sorry Vince
Why would that shock you??? Homosexual playing around muscle men and getting to control there ever move and look.... If I was gay that would have been an amazing job LoL 😂😂😂😂😂😂
*Cartoon looks like Senator Mitch Mcconnell*
I still want that thang! I don't know if that was meant to be funny but goddamn I laughed!
Awesome thumbnail, would've expected a "my boy" to be there somewhere though haha
This is exactly how I talk when I want someone to middleman a drug deal for me.
All Cornette wanted was a gram of wax. Such a shame.
th-cam.com/video/vhHeoQp2vY4/w-d-xo.html seems relevant to this.
@@mjhartlebury I assume you've taken Cake and other made-up drugs then? :P
seriously, Jim should look like that thumbnail, looks good
Jim Barnett is SO fascinating. I’ve only been able to find one old Australian news clip with him actually talking on it. Its also funny that in a world of make believe like Pro Wrestling nobody till this day knows if Barnett really lived a glamorous life or was he just “Working the boys”. What if the Jim Barnett ppl fondly remember him as was just a total gimmick lol
You can find Gary Hart's book online in PDF form and he talks about Barnett a lot. He loved the guy, and it's hinted that Barnett lived beyond his means.
Should’ve made a movie about him. He’s fascinating.
It would be the second greatest work of all time only to religion.
I actually did research on Kohler a while back. He was already successful going into the DuMont deal to the point that he was Sam Muchnik's biggest rival, and they were bitter ones at that. When Kohler took the network deal, Muchnik even green lit his former buisness partner to compete with him for Chicago, with NWA support, causing Kohler's first departure with the organization. His ace in the whole in competing with the NWA was Verne Gagne, he managed to get the young star so over that fans were mistaking his regional championship for Lou Thesz's world title. DuMont was tremendously lucrative, giving him more access than any other competing promotion of the time, a hefty payment, and the Marigold Arena which was massive. But DuMont collapsed royally and Wrestling from the Marigold was cancelled five years or so later, leaving them with a regional broadcast that ended two years after that. Verne was hugely expensive bringing in 100,000 a year, the highest of any wrestler at the time, Eddie Quinn was making moves into Chicago, and eventually costs would make Pfefer's circus act a little more appealing. He didn't even keep the Marigold, it was sold to a nondenominational church to stay afloat. He was near bankrupt when he brokered an alliance with Vince Sr that saw him make a huge rebound but it was too little too late and he was forced to sell. I believe he was suffering health issues as well and passed away in 1969, 5 years after selling to Gagne, Dick the Bruiser, and Crusher.
There was extreme bad blood between Kohler and Verne Gagne in the 1960s. The story has typically been that Gagne fronted the money to Bruiser to get the deal to buy Chicago done, but kept his involvement in the deal secret right up until the point it was finalized. Its said that Kohler would have never sold knowingly to Gagne and would have pursued any other option (including just going out of business).
Kohler never really recovered from the collapse of Dumont and getting kicked off WGN. The deal with Vince Sr. kept him going for a little while, but he just didn't have the TV or the money to continue. Pfefer was just one more attempt to save the promotion by cutting costs.
@@Jim-Tuner I would suspect there would be considering how much Kohler meant to building Gagne's career. He even officiated the match where Gagne "won" the NWA title off Thesz. The money he spent must have killing him. Though the WWWF deal did see him his biggest draw ever, yeah, the IWA was dead on arrival.
Just as an aside, the Rainbow Arena he used to work out of before DuMont has an interesting history. It saw a number of different businesses take over and was converted into a roller ring before eventually being torn down. But while the building was being demolished, construction crews made a surprising discovery. Beneath the building, they found the body of an unidentified woman.
tHANKS FOR THE INFO
Jim Barnett was very valuable to Kohler as well. Jim did really create the wrestling format for television wrestling ( DuMont). Barnett was also Kohler’s road agent for other territories who want to borrow Dick the Brusier, Snyder, and Gagne. Obviously Jim was Kohler’s workhorse. By 1960, Jim left Kohler to promote it on his own (Indy, Louisville and Detroit). Kohler (when NWA President) was vindictive of Jim leaving Chicago. That he refused to vote Jim into the NWA board. Jim did not become a board member until the late 60’s via Sam Munchnik, who valued Jim’s knowledge of wrestling TV.
The partners of the Chicago wrestling club were Vern Gagne, Dick Afflis and Wilbur Snyder. Crusher was not a partner..
never heard of Rock hudson, but i wonder if he knew Pat Patterson too. ?
INteresting information about Roy Shire and San Francisco. We don't here enough about the history of that territory.
Jim and brian, keep up the great work!!!👍
can I write a song called "I Still Want that Thang" and sell t-shirts that say "Did Brian Ever Give You that Thang" I'll be a millionaire in 69 years 😂😂😂
Dusty, my boyyyyy!
I love these old stories... Awesome.
My boy
frank bonini Any Gossips my boy
Gimme gimme gimme.... that thang!
*Jim my boy*
I knew it!
Jim my boy! 😂
Is there anyone here after the dark side of the ring
Tony Schiavone does a great Barnett voice. Guess Barnett was a "big" fan of Alex Wright's..."talents".
Thin Thirty written by Shannon Ragland
Awesome Shoot Today Jim!!😎🐐🐐
I have avoided hearing Jim Barnetts voice because in my world his voice is JP Sarros impression from The Lapsed Fan podcast... "Sterling. Sterling"
I'm can't I'm can't
Sheeeeit
Raintree County (1957) featured Montgomery Clift (another well known gay actor)
My boys
McMahon was a fool to not check Barnett's non-wrestling background or even read a Washington Post article dated April 3, 1980 which noted how Barnett was appointed by U.S. President Jimmy Carter as a member of the National Endowment of the Arts. Even when he was a major figure in the Georgia Championship Wrestling sale, there was no sign that Barnett backed away from his loyalty to the Georgia-bred U.S. President who publicly made clear to Chappaquiddick Ted Kennedy that he would "whip his ass."
The thumbnails make the segments more entertaining than any line still frame could present lol
I wonder how much the early wrestling culture and magazines intermingled with the underground gay subculture back in the 40"s - 60's? It seems like there were a lot of common elements, and by that I mean, the need to keep certain things quiet. And of course, half naked dudes grappling with each other haha. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It just seems like the early wrestling publications would be tailor made for the gay community
Montgomery Clift was in Raintree County and not Rock Hudson. It could have been Giant (1956) There were scenes where Hudson was in "Maryland" that could have been in Kentucky.
Didnt Barnett own the Australia promotion at one time which he sold to Buddy Fuller(Welch). Where did that money go?
Jim Barnett was a gawd among men. The Hugh Hefner of professional wrasslin.
"Jim Barnett was a god among men"
No pun intended😏
@@FIXTREME Hah!!!
So did Barnett leave promoting in 1964 because of Kentucky U? Jim was the monetary booster of these parties. Guilt by association perhaps scared him away from the United States for 8 years. He figured he could lay low make money down under, and come back when the coast was clear... until Atlanta was ripe for the taking....
Hard to believe after all those yrs in business Barnett died without leaving much money...
Jim is like the Meyer Lansky of professional Wrestling. He’s a great negotiator brings parties together, but isn’t really rich lol
Think of that, wrestling didn't catch on in San Francisco right away...
They don't like that workin buttsex, they watch shootin buttsex down there😏
@@FIXTREME lol would love to hear that dialogue
Patterson was over in that town
One of the funniest intros 😂
That Thang 😁😁😁
Dusty my booooy!
Corny… My boy
Does the title count as clickbait?
ROSE MARY THE HIVE QREEN THE BUNNY IS THE BEST IN IMPACT WRESTLING
I'll give you a hint about Oates first name. It's the same as yours. Lol.
He was quite the character
19th!
KB
JB*