I love that little slotted bar tool. Was interesting to see that the panel was attached with some pins and some screws rather than all pins or all screws. The rubbing action on the roller to get that curve formed was new to me, fascinating.
Do you use a primer between the steel and the wood? I use a single-pack of epoxy . A wee tip for those watching is to slide the hammer head across on the metal in the later stages of doing wired edge which eliminates the risk of dents , basically the same as your method of guarding it with a separate piece of metal
Hi Peter. Do you have Instagram? I’m on there as metal_shaper_tom this TH-cam channel is my workshop I go to after work. My day job I’m a coachbuilder and car restorer. I’ve just finished making a complete body for an Arnolt Bristol and just started a 1 off Bugatti type 30 Body .
Nice work as usual, Tom. The few times I have done a wired edge I found it to be quite hard. I do realize that more practice helps. ;) I'd like to try it on aluminum instead of steel but I have no call for that and too many other tasks to do. Thanks for the video, Joe
Fascinating that you do the shaping the exact same ways that I do over here in Northern California and I’m positive that we did not have the same teachers mainly because I’m 63 and your not🤔😜
This is the only other channel I have found paneling an ash frame body. I am just an amateur so this is incredibly helpful for my own project. With a mix of steel and aluminium panels how do you go about priming and painting it? One tool I made to help with wire edges was to take some end cutting pliers and grind the cutting edges off and file them to have grooves so I could use them to grip and clinch the metal to the wire.
That’s a great tool you’ve made with the pliers 👍. As for painting I would just scuff/key the surface with a fine grit. Hopefully I get to do more work like this 👍 on my instagram I’m currently paneling a Bugatti type 30 that might be of some interest to you .
I've enjoyed your channel as well. I like the Ed Barr books and in lockdown he did a bit on youtube. I think his day job was teaching apprentices and I find it relatable and the tools affordable vs all the "first build your steam hammer" type stuff. www.youtube.com/@edbarr4958/videos
Hi Tom, it is a really great job what you are making. Did you learn this? My dream is, to visit the Morgan Company...I drive also an English car, a MG Midget. Sorry, for my English, I'm from Germany. Best Regards...
Nice work Tom. Have you seen the latest video by Trev's blog? He used an air chisel with hammer attachment. It seemed much quicker & got a really sharp neat edge.
Hello Tony. Yes I’ve seen it. I personally wouldn’t do that method on a ash frame. Just my opinion though .it doesn’t actually take very long at all to do this this way .
@@Metal_shaper_tom He's knackered his arm/shoulder so he needs the air tool to "stay in the game". I was just watching you cut out by hand and my arm ached! Was going to ask for a recommended brand for decent snips but have come back to edit having read other comments.
Superb work Tom. There really is no room for any mistakes, it would frighten me to death! Just wondered, should the back of the steel be treated and painted before it is fastened to the wooden body?
Hello Bob. Yeah your right. The could have been treated as an extra precaution but they never done it In period hence why I haven’t on this also some paints can react with each other over time causing more damage later on and not knowing what paint this will be painted in this was another reason to leave it as it is . 👍
Tom could you please let us know the model number of the snips please? There’s a bewildering choice and I want to make sure I order the same as you have. Thank you.
Thanks for the very interesting video Tom.
WoW.
Looks owsome great job you did.
Cheers Tom! 🍻
Thanks Tom very enjoyable helps me a lot as a hobbyist on my fordson van really enjoyable thank you
Cheers Wade. I had a fordson 5cw van once upon a time!
Great video, thanks Tom
Great skills again Tom!
Thanks for sharing with us all again 👍
Still enjoying this build, great seeing the amount of hammer skill, many thanks for your time and video's on this Morgan.
Thank you 👍
I love that little slotted bar tool. Was interesting to see that the panel was attached with some pins and some screws rather than all pins or all screws. The rubbing action on the roller to get that curve formed was new to me, fascinating.
Fascinating, great work Tom 😮😍
Thanks for another fascinating look into the wonderful world of traditional car construction
Excellent
Hard to believe they never went into mass production 😎👍🤘
Do you use a primer between the steel and the wood? I use a single-pack of epoxy .
A wee tip for those watching is to slide the hammer head across on the metal in the later stages of doing wired edge which eliminates the risk of dents , basically the same as your method of guarding it with a separate piece of metal
Fabulous work as usual Tom, great to see the process.
Thank you Simon 👍
Great work as usual Tom.
WELL DONE !
Hi Peter. Do you have Instagram? I’m on there as metal_shaper_tom this TH-cam channel is my workshop I go to after work. My day job I’m a coachbuilder and car restorer. I’ve just finished making a complete body for an Arnolt Bristol and just started a 1 off Bugatti type 30 Body .
Nice work as usual, Tom.
The few times I have done a wired edge I found it to be quite hard. I do realize that more practice helps. ;) I'd like to try it on aluminum instead of steel but I have no call for that and too many other tasks to do.
Thanks for the video,
Joe
Fascinating that you do the shaping the exact same ways that I do over here in Northern California and I’m positive that we did not have the same teachers mainly because I’m 63 and your not🤔😜
Great minds think alike 🤔
Lovely job, lots of info. Impressive swage concentration stare. Thank you.
Lol 😂 yeah a lot of concentration going on there!
Love watching you work, looks so easy and relaxed.
That's true skill!
Thanks Richard 👍
This is the only other channel I have found paneling an ash frame body. I am just an amateur so this is incredibly helpful for my own project. With a mix of steel and aluminium panels how do you go about priming and painting it? One tool I made to help with wire edges was to take some end cutting pliers and grind the cutting edges off and file them to have grooves so I could use them to grip and clinch the metal to the wire.
That’s a great tool you’ve made with the pliers 👍. As for painting I would just scuff/key the surface with a fine grit. Hopefully I get to do more work like this 👍 on my instagram I’m currently paneling a Bugatti type 30 that might be of some interest to you .
I've enjoyed your channel as well. I like the Ed Barr books and in lockdown he did a bit on youtube. I think his day job was teaching apprentices and I find it relatable and the tools affordable vs all the "first build your steam hammer" type stuff. www.youtube.com/@edbarr4958/videos
Great insight into panelling an ash framed body. Neat work which you make look very easy - your experience is key here though. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Tom, it is a really great job what you are making. Did you learn this? My dream is, to visit the Morgan Company...I drive also an English car, a MG Midget. Sorry, for my English, I'm from Germany. Best Regards...
Your English is great 👍 yes I learnt this when I worked at Morgan. I like the MG midget it’s a great car.
fantastic presentation! wondering why the cowl isn't also made of ally?
I’m just copying what they done at the factory. I don’t know why it’s done like this 🤷♂️
Nice work Tom. Have you seen the latest video by Trev's blog? He used an air chisel with hammer attachment. It seemed much quicker & got a really sharp neat edge.
Hello Tony. Yes I’ve seen it. I personally wouldn’t do that method on a ash frame. Just my opinion though .it doesn’t actually take very long at all to do this this way .
@@Metal_shaper_tom He's knackered his arm/shoulder so he needs the air tool to "stay in the game". I was just watching you cut out by hand and my arm ached! Was going to ask for a recommended brand for decent snips but have come back to edit having read other comments.
Superb work Tom. There really is no room for any mistakes, it would frighten me to death! Just wondered, should the back of the steel be treated and painted before it is fastened to the wooden body?
Hello Bob. Yeah your right. The could have been treated as an extra precaution but they never done it In period hence why I haven’t on this also some paints can react with each other over time causing more damage later on and not knowing what paint this will be painted in this was another reason to leave it as it is . 👍
Some people have a foot control on their bead roller. Yours seems a little more interactive…
Yep the motor ones are great. Wish I could afford one. Maybe one day 🤞
@@Metal_shaper_tom Shows you don't NEED one.
Great work. You make it look so easy. But it's not. Is that a new apprentice that you had helping you?
Hi Peter . Nope that’s my son. He’s only 14 and has no interest in cars or metalwork 😂 I even had to pay him to come and help me for 2 hours.
Hi Tom, can you tell me the make and model of the tin snips you used in this video. Many thanks, Nick
Hi nick I done a video on them a couple of weeks ago. There Milwaukee ones👍
@@Metal_shaper_tom Thanks Tom, I will look that up. 👍
76 quid for a sheet of 1mil 8x4??? Holy sheet! Over in Hungary l pay just short of 30 quid retail for a sheet of 2000x1000mm. 😮
Welcome to British prices! Ridiculous isn’t it .
Hello Tom, what diameter wire do you use - thanks
4mm wire 👍
Please dress up the striking surface on your chaser! I had a boss who lost an eye from a chip flying off his chisel that wasn’t maintained properly.
Tom could you please let us know the model number of the snips please? There’s a bewildering choice and I want to make sure I order the same as you have. Thank you.
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@@Metal_shaper_tom Thank you so much Tom.
Rough idea re price to do scuttle and rear panels in aluminium?
On a 4 seater?
@@Metal_shaper_tom yes, it is a Singer 4AB from1954. I have today removed the panels and tha frame will need some work, which i wll do myself.
@@johnwessels7909 well that’s a bit different and more complicated than a Morgan. Email me pictures cheltenhamvintageandclassic@gmail.com
@@Metal_shaper_tom pictures of the frame? Pictures of a singer 4ab are on the internet. I will send you pics to ur email
Do you have to sell a metal badge for my mog?
No I don’t
Why is this panel steel and not aluminium?
🤷♂️ don’t know . I only copied the original.
I have Singer 1951 that needs some alu panels redone. Do you know anybody in Kent that could do that for me? Thank you.
@@johnwessels7909 I don’t unfortunately down that way. But I would consider it if that’s an option for you?
@@Metal_shaper_tom you are certainly more than capable! But getting the car to you is a bit of a job...
Rough idea re price to do scuttle and rear panels with aluminium?