could u look at alex scott based on his perfromances last season as a good additon to man utd ball carrying and creativity given man utd's best creators are all in their 30s. thank you
I like timber, but for what I think united need, I think I like his team mate Mats Wieffer even more. He's a 6/8 with great passing, game reading, tempo and decent defending. These attributes in a number 6 could allow for getting even more out of the other mids who play along with him, like mainoo, mount, bruno etc. If we are going to potentially lose casemiro, Eriksen and/or McTominay, we are going to lose lots of defending, passing and physicality from the squad. This one player could help address that.
Manu Kone and kephrem thuram, are great shouts for united. They are both descent ball carriers ( especially kephrem thuram), and very good at beating the press( especially Manu Kone). Atlantis, pls upload a video on both players🙏
i totally agree most of our big money transfers never really worked out. we shouldn't be spending as much money on average players with big salary. hopefully Antony was Erik's last big money player. plus we have kobbie
I like Timber he seems like a good alternative to Joao neves and clearly ten hag likes good ball carrying midfielders however I would sign Joao neves if I was at United just because we have missed out on so many great talents like Enzo, Bellingham, rice, Caicedo, Camavinga, Tchouameni, etc who were all big midfield talents linked with united and yet we let them go rice for 100mil has been class for arsenal and I understand Joao neves could be underwhelming like Enzo because he needs better players around him or he might struggle to adapt to the prem being just 20lbs well and not being the most physical player however he is a generational talent and for 100mil or less it isnt bad business as in the summer we should have more funds if we sell some of Maguire, mctominay, Casemiro, Donny, Brandon Williams, wan bissaka, Antony, pellistri, Sancho and even let free up Varane wages plus ratcliffe will look to invest more money into the club so a player like Joao neves could be the heart of this rebuild alongside Kobbie mainoo in the midfield for ten hag
Manutd's main problem is ball retention and someone to orchestrate play from deep on an elite level like rodri. Someone with extremely assured touches and high football Iq like a carrick. and the best player for the job would be zubimendi. but Manutd can't sign him. Next best is Adam Wharton from Blackburn he is 19 and english. Would cost around 15m - 20 in January. Newcastle are interested
I think if we going for a feyenoord Midfielder, it should be Matt's Weffer. Tall, strong, good on the ball almost Amadou Onana Like. We need someone like that next Mainoo in the future
It would be better to have Timber because since they have someone with creative passing like Bruno Fernandez, he can bring the ball up for the attackers to finish or he finish himself, the only problem I see is that they would have to change the tactics for Timber to be a CAM and Bruno to be a CM
i don't see any special talent from Neves still will cost 100M ridiculous for the player who just debut first season people just copying opinions and talking about how good he is 😂
He is pure. His agility, technique and stamina are amazing! He is all over the place: to defend, and to finish.He is not tall, but has incredible shock capacity. He is low to the ground, and is quite hard to take the ball from. But perhaps his biggest strength is his personality. Advice : watch a Benfica full match and you will see.
@@Emadbaudelaire yeah but I’m talking more about signing a 2nd CM. Onana would be my 1st choice but for the same money you could get Onana and Timber for Neves
@@AtlantisFootball I agree, in an ideal world I’d really prefer to get Onana & Neves if we manage to offload players like (Eriksen, De Beek, Casemiro, Mctominay) and get a new fresh midfield but yeah it seems unrealistic.
First time I’ve ever disagreed with one of your videos. I think that he could come in to United and play 20-30 games. You got Gavi and Pedri playing so much and they keep getting better the more they play. Now for sure, we gotta take into account the physicality of the PL, but if the scouts deem Neves to be of high standard, then he take his game higher and should try to dethrone McTominay or whoever is in that current role
Great scouting. I have him on the shortlist. He’s should be a priority for Manchester United. He’s a gem. Him and Mainoo would be amazing. You beat me to the video!! I was going to make one about Timber being the right fit for them. Quinten Timber, Mainoo and Fernandes would make defenders go crazy!! Great Video!!
As a Benfica fan, my advice would be: don't rush into trying to sign him and give Neves time to develop at Benfica. Keep in mind that he's only 19 years old and this his is 1st season as pro. He would be committing the same mistakes of Sanches and Felix if he was transfered in the Summer. He's insanely talented but not ready for the Premier League pressure.
Journalists are saying his release clause is €80m which is about 65m quid. I think United need an out and out destroyer with a good engine, Casemiro was brilliant last season but he's lost his engine. Mainoo is more of an 8 to me so we're lacking that player who can drop deep and win a ball back for us
two more midfielders would be somewhat an excess. especially if they are to play anyway. maino and gore have shown to be good. maybe if some leave or get sold. centre back is where man utd would seek to add becuase they dont necesarily have youngsters coming up in that area but also their current centre backs are clocking 30 except martinez. so if they could add young lads with huge potential like arsenal did with saliba then they would be in good business. i would think addition of a midfielder would come if some are sold. because man utd has a ageing midfield too. the addition of mount has the likelihood to answer some midfield replacements but may not have the creative ingenuity like bruno and eriksen have. thus the addition of a mdifielder that is a potential creative monster but still young. alex scott who was last season's championship young player of the season would fit the bill however he was taken by bornemouth. a central midfielder who can play as an attacking midfileder but has excellent dribbling and technique but also very creative eye and mind
As a portuguese i couldn´t agree more, United needs to let go, by the Summer, players like Casemiro, McTominay and Eriksen while looking to bring in Onana, Thuram and Joao Neves.
But I dont understand what you mean when you say that Timber isnt elite progresser. He has over 0.16 (progressive passes)/(total passes) which is absolutely Elite with an 82% pass accuracy. He just dosent attempt as many passes
I think we need to be looking at a player like Zubimendi. Also I think we need to sell Ericsson, Scott and Casimiro and get at least 4 CMs if we want to compete even CDs I think we need at least 2 more but given this is United that won’t happen
When SJR takes over the sport side of things in Utd. We won't be spending big money on players until we get everything right on & off the pitch. We have to get the club to a standard to challenge for ALL titles like City
you wait until after euros like teams found out in Qatar youre in trouble. Enzo, jude, caicedo, mitrovic, all had stock baloon in tournament. If Portugal go deep and they should...when they play better teams the game will open and Palinha will be replaced by neves and he is so much better than everyone else available hes best in class. Hes the type of player that will compete for Champions leagues let alone domestic leagues. His stats are great but if youre worried about stats when scouting you miss the nuances of sport especially how he plays. He is exactly who Pep signs and plays dependently like a Rodri because if his consistency hes so professional and competitive his performances never lack. You have to talk to die hard Casa Benfica fans they will be able to explain how good he is. You know what Benfinca and Dortmund are and those arent places you can value shop they are for cornerstone talents.
@@johnlau6749 that's why I said " Spend smart" we need DOF and head of Scouting. Someone who knows football someone like Mitchel or Michael Edwards even Ragnick
Neves will become the No10 we lack for years...Neves will make united retention possession and well organised. Bruno is not elite no10 and therefore loses Possession easily.
@@AtlantisFootball Let me adjust mty remark. They could use a ball-carrying midfielder but they need a CDM who can distribute the ball and advance the ball via possession play. A ball-carrying midfielder would help, but a player like Neves can pull the strings in midfield with passing. It's so much more efficient and far less risky, particularly in front of this back line. I agree, but I don't think it is the immediate priority. Think of United's midfielders over the PL era. Very few ball-carry midfielders and more toughness and composure on the ball enabling strong decisions. In every successful United team there has been a defensively sound midfielder who can pass the ball and understand the importance of controlling pace and moving up the pitch with possession play.
Nah ball carrying ability is far more important for United’s CM. Players like Martinez, Dalot, Mount even Maguire have the passing ability from deep. That would help but ball carrying ability has to be the priority
@@AtlantisFootball That can work. But if you're relying on your backs (I'll exclude Mount because I don't know why you position him so deep) to sustain possession, then United will continue to pump longballs over the top to our forwards. Bruno is ineffective in possession play, so we lose our 9 as an outlet, so the ball either goes to our CF over the top or we have to bypass midfield to get the ball to the wingers. Someone in midfield has got to be able to receive a pass, turn, and distribute. And, do that repeatedly throughout the game. If we have to use a ball-carrying midfielder to get the ball to our forwards, then that player is out of position and our defence is vulnerable to counter-attack. I like your points, but I think its less of a priority than a strong defensive and possession-minded passer sitting deep in midfield.
So, pray tell me mr. atlantis football...how exactly are they suppose to sign Joao Neves? They haven't the money to do so and don't intend on selling any of their clown players who are over paid. I ask you since it appears you are such a master of the sport, that you would have the answer. If not, you know just as much as the shoe salesman down the street.
What you on about they do have the money and they do instead of selling players on big wages who are injury prone, INEOS have already alluded to that in interviews.
sign youssouf fofana and start a midfield trio of mount as a 10, bruno as an 8 and fofana as a 6. have a backup youthful trio of mejbri as a 10, mainoo as an 8 and oyedele as a 6. mctominay will provide further depth.
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could u look at alex scott based on his perfromances last season as a good additon to man utd ball carrying and creativity given man utd's best creators are all in their 30s. thank you
I think moscardo at 18 alongside 18 year old mainoo and a young 10 to deputise eventually replace Bruno completes a Utd midfield for a decade
No world class is coming to UTD,we need ball retention and ball progression which Neves possesses
Manchester need to take the football business serious
I like timber, but for what I think united need, I think I like his team mate Mats Wieffer even more. He's a 6/8 with great passing, game reading, tempo and decent defending. These attributes in a number 6 could allow for getting even more out of the other mids who play along with him, like mainoo, mount, bruno etc. If we are going to potentially lose casemiro, Eriksen and/or McTominay, we are going to lose lots of defending, passing and physicality from the squad. This one player could help address that.
Manu Kone and kephrem thuram, are great shouts for united. They are both descent ball carriers ( especially kephrem thuram), and very good at beating the press( especially Manu Kone). Atlantis, pls upload a video on both players🙏
Thuram plays for Sir Jim's team Nice so we can actually easily get Him nd Todibo cheaply 🤟💯
i totally agree most of our big money transfers never really worked out. we shouldn't be spending as much money on average players with big salary. hopefully Antony was Erik's last big money player. plus we have kobbie
I like Timber he seems like a good alternative to Joao neves and clearly ten hag likes good ball carrying midfielders however I would sign Joao neves if I was at United just because we have missed out on so many great talents like Enzo, Bellingham, rice, Caicedo, Camavinga, Tchouameni, etc who were all big midfield talents linked with united and yet we let them go rice for 100mil has been class for arsenal and I understand Joao neves could be underwhelming like Enzo because he needs better players around him or he might struggle to adapt to the prem being just 20lbs well and not being the most physical player however he is a generational talent and for 100mil or less it isnt bad business as in the summer we should have more funds if we sell some of Maguire, mctominay, Casemiro, Donny, Brandon Williams, wan bissaka, Antony, pellistri, Sancho and even let free up Varane wages plus ratcliffe will look to invest more money into the club so a player like Joao neves could be the heart of this rebuild alongside Kobbie mainoo in the midfield for ten hag
Manutd's main problem is ball retention and someone to orchestrate play from deep on an elite level like rodri. Someone with extremely assured touches and high football Iq like a carrick. and the best player for the job would be zubimendi. but Manutd can't sign him. Next best is Adam Wharton from Blackburn he is 19 and english. Would cost around 15m - 20 in January. Newcastle are interested
Adam Wharton was the next best option now crystal palace have signed him.... Two years on they will demand 75 million from man utd
I think if we going for a feyenoord Midfielder, it should be Matt's Weffer.
Tall, strong, good on the ball almost Amadou Onana Like. We need someone like that next Mainoo in the future
It would be better to have Timber because since they have someone with creative passing like Bruno Fernandez, he can bring the ball up for the attackers to finish or he finish himself, the only problem I see is that they would have to change the tactics for Timber to be a CAM and Bruno to be a CM
Did you also see how high Timbers dribblers tackeld procentile was. And that has been a real problem at us. Great scouting from you!
i don't see any special talent from Neves still will cost 100M
ridiculous for the player who just debut first season
people just copying opinions and talking about how good he is 😂
He is good just too expensive
He is pure. His agility, technique and stamina are amazing! He is all over the place: to defend, and to finish.He is not tall, but has incredible shock capacity. He is low to the ground, and is quite hard to take the ball from. But perhaps his biggest strength is his personality. Advice : watch a Benfica full match and you will see.
Meh there are many other options who are far superior to Timber including Onana though I think we shouldn’t miss out on Neves at all.
Yeah but Onana will cost double
@@AtlantisFootball does it matter that much tho? Enormous quality it’s worth paying that price for, if Everton get relegated he’d be way cheaper too.
@@Emadbaudelaire would rather go for Manu kone, or kephrem thuram, than onana.
@@Emadbaudelaire yeah but I’m talking more about signing a 2nd CM. Onana would be my 1st choice but for the same money you could get Onana and Timber for Neves
@@AtlantisFootball I agree, in an ideal world I’d really prefer to get Onana & Neves if we manage to offload players like (Eriksen, De Beek, Casemiro, Mctominay) and get a new fresh midfield but yeah it seems unrealistic.
First time I’ve ever disagreed with one of your videos. I think that he could come in to United and play 20-30 games. You got Gavi and Pedri playing so much and they keep getting better the more they play. Now for sure, we gotta take into account the physicality of the PL, but if the scouts deem Neves to be of high standard, then he take his game higher and should try to dethrone McTominay or whoever is in that current role
We could use exactly this type of player at Arsenal as well and with his brother already here maybe we should complete the brace
Timber is a good shout but if United want Neves, they should get him else another top team will.
Great scouting. I have him on the shortlist. He’s should be a priority for Manchester United. He’s a gem. Him and Mainoo would be amazing.
You beat me to the video!! I was going to make one about Timber being the right fit for them.
Quinten Timber, Mainoo and Fernandes would make defenders go crazy!!
Great Video!!
Thanks bro 🙏🏼
Don’t need Quinten Timber he’s trash!!!!
No he’s not 💀
As a Benfica fan, my advice would be: don't rush into trying to sign him and give Neves time to develop at Benfica.
Keep in mind that he's only 19 years old and this his is 1st season as pro. He would be committing the same mistakes of Sanches and Felix if he was transfered in the Summer.
He's insanely talented but not ready for the Premier League pressure.
João Neves has way too much quality for MUnited 😅
Do you think Mainoo would be a consistent starter like how gavi Pedri are for barca
United will not sign Q. Timber with such low pass stats. TenHag dropped Casemiro for Ericksen because he wants more football.
Can you do a video of Weiffer and Onana? They both seem brilliant and will both improve us.
onana has revolutionized our opening game. Also 74% save percent.. top class
Journalists are saying his release clause is €80m which is about 65m quid. I think United need an out and out destroyer with a good engine, Casemiro was brilliant last season but he's lost his engine. Mainoo is more of an 8 to me so we're lacking that player who can drop deep and win a ball back for us
Nah it’s £105m now, got increased after his new contract
Wouldn’t Caqueret from Lyon be better?
I hope some PL team signs him just so we can see the twins play each other in chaos when they play Arsenal :D
looks good, but dont you think united need a replacement for casemiro instead, a proper destroyer, a number 6, timber is more like an 8
Yousuff fofana of monaco @ £30m would be an absolute steal.
What happened to Ibrahim Sangare, i though he was a top level ball winner and ball professor. I dont hear him much these days
joao neves should go to Arsenal for partey's position. Imagine Rice, Odegaard and Joao neves in that midfield. The midfield for the next 5 to 6 years.
two more midfielders would be somewhat an excess. especially if they are to play anyway. maino and gore have shown to be good. maybe if some leave or get sold. centre back is where man utd would seek to add becuase they dont necesarily have youngsters coming up in that area but also their current centre backs are clocking 30 except martinez. so if they could add young lads with huge potential like arsenal did with saliba then they would be in good business. i would think addition of a midfielder would come if some are sold. because man utd has a ageing midfield too. the addition of mount has the likelihood to answer some midfield replacements but may not have the creative ingenuity like bruno and eriksen have. thus the addition of a mdifielder that is a potential creative monster but still young. alex scott who was last season's championship young player of the season would fit the bill however he was taken by bornemouth. a central midfielder who can play as an attacking midfileder but has excellent dribbling and technique but also very creative eye and mind
We need promote Oyedele and Gore. We Must also take a close eye on Lacey
I don't see any netherland players shine in Premiere Leage
all struggle with fitness and injuries
in premiere league
interestingly the two are perfect complements of each other 😄 ,,, would work well together as a 6 and 8 behind an 8/10 like Bruno...
As a portuguese i couldn´t agree more, United needs to let go, by the Summer, players like Casemiro, McTominay and Eriksen while looking to bring in Onana, Thuram and Joao Neves.
But I dont understand what you mean when you say that Timber isnt elite progresser. He has over 0.16 (progressive passes)/(total passes) which is absolutely Elite with an 82% pass accuracy. He just dosent attempt as many passes
I think we need to be looking at a player like Zubimendi. Also I think we need to sell Ericsson, Scott and Casimiro and get at least 4 CMs if we want to compete even CDs I think we need at least 2 more but given this is United that won’t happen
Love this Channel
Thanks man 🙏🏼
Joao Neves is the 1st phase midfielder need. He is available for 70m.
Would rather we go for Gabriel Moscardo as a priority then maybe add Timber would still be cheaper than signing Neves
He looks like a special talent
When SJR takes over the sport side of things in Utd. We won't be spending big money on players until we get everything right on & off the pitch. We have to get the club to a standard to challenge for ALL titles like City
You should look at Desire Doue at Rennes
I hope he can receive back to goal and turn and progress play because our players are real slow
@Atlantis, how would your “perfect” midfield look like moving forward?
What midfielder do you think would be the perfect partner to Mainoo?
Thank God he's better than João Neves, hopefully other clubs find better options than him as well, and he stays where he is 👍🏼
you wait until after euros like teams found out in Qatar youre in trouble. Enzo, jude, caicedo, mitrovic, all had stock baloon in tournament. If Portugal go deep and they should...when they play better teams the game will open and Palinha will be replaced by neves and he is so much better than everyone else available hes best in class. Hes the type of player that will compete for Champions leagues let alone domestic leagues. His stats are great but if youre worried about stats when scouting you miss the nuances of sport especially how he plays.
He is exactly who Pep signs and plays dependently like a Rodri because if his consistency hes so professional and competitive his performances never lack. You have to talk to die hard Casa Benfica fans they will be able to explain how good he is. You know what Benfinca and Dortmund are and those arent places you can value shop they are for cornerstone talents.
2 different midfielders. Timber is more Bruno Fernandes. J. Neves is already a world class player and exactly what Man United needs.
Timber Todibo Gimenez should be January signings
Manchester United should sign Enzo le fee
I don't think we should look cheap alternatives. It's time to spend smart and big and get Neves or FDJ
@@johnlau6749 that's why I said " Spend smart" we need DOF and head of Scouting. Someone who knows football someone like Mitchel or Michael Edwards even Ragnick
@@johnlau6749João is world class
Hes a Pep Guardiola signing, its got him written all over
Please... As a Benfica Fan I say this: Don't buy João Neves... Let him stay where he is. Please...
Do a vid on kepheren thuram
More Dutch player
They should sign you for the scouting team
But neves has better defensive record
If oportuned would you want neves in
Onana from Everton
we have mount & mainoo..but we should sign timber smh
I would prefer K. thuram he is stronger, faster and technical player or Fofana
Do you like kocku at benfica
Plus we have mainooooo
We need someone who can give Mainoo 25 starts a season
Le Fee & Fofana
Everybody should watch neves play....and then have a opinion. Neves is going to be a world star.
Yes that’s what everyone has done
He's mid
@@blackmojoking820 nah he’s not
Lol, with just media speculation, the price inflated to 100m and this is how ManUtd wasted buying inflated price talent.
It’s not the media it’s his release clause mage
Who need him we got *MINOO*
yo
how about k.thuram
Neves will become the No10 we lack for years...Neves will make united retention possession and well organised.
Bruno is not elite no10 and therefore loses Possession easily.
Bruno is an elite 10 and neves isn’t even a number 10
United will lose Erikson, DVB, Hannibal and potentially Casemiro and McSauce.
Simply just buy both.
Loftus C. If he plays to his ability. England all the way.
Lucas paqueta??
I think his partner Wieffer is much more needed in mufc
Do you want the DOF job for United ?
I wouldnt sign any of the two
This guy is Dutch McTominay. Stay away.
He’s nothing like McTominay 🤣🤣🤣
João Neves better tho
£35M 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why are you laughing at £35m?
United do not need a ball-carrying midfielder.
Yes they 100% do. They are probably the team in Europe who need one the most.
@@AtlantisFootball Let me adjust mty remark. They could use a ball-carrying midfielder but they need a CDM who can distribute the ball and advance the ball via possession play. A ball-carrying midfielder would help, but a player like Neves can pull the strings in midfield with passing. It's so much more efficient and far less risky, particularly in front of this back line. I agree, but I don't think it is the immediate priority. Think of United's midfielders over the PL era. Very few ball-carry midfielders and more toughness and composure on the ball enabling strong decisions. In every successful United team there has been a defensively sound midfielder who can pass the ball and understand the importance of controlling pace and moving up the pitch with possession play.
Nah ball carrying ability is far more important for United’s CM. Players like Martinez, Dalot, Mount even Maguire have the passing ability from deep. That would help but ball carrying ability has to be the priority
@@AtlantisFootball That can work. But if you're relying on your backs (I'll exclude Mount because I don't know why you position him so deep) to sustain possession, then United will continue to pump longballs over the top to our forwards. Bruno is ineffective in possession play, so we lose our 9 as an outlet, so the ball either goes to our CF over the top or we have to bypass midfield to get the ball to the wingers. Someone in midfield has got to be able to receive a pass, turn, and distribute. And, do that repeatedly throughout the game. If we have to use a ball-carrying midfielder to get the ball to our forwards, then that player is out of position and our defence is vulnerable to counter-attack. I like your points, but I think its less of a priority than a strong defensive and possession-minded passer sitting deep in midfield.
The Nevez guy is mid. I've never seen such a mid player being hyped into oblivion.
🤣🤣🤣 he’s just not tho
Hi🗿
So, pray tell me mr. atlantis football...how exactly are they suppose to sign Joao Neves? They haven't the money to do so and don't intend on selling any of their clown players who are over paid. I ask you since it appears you are such a master of the sport, that you would have the answer. If not, you know just as much as the shoe salesman down the street.
What you on about they do have the money and they do instead of selling players on big wages who are injury prone, INEOS have already alluded to that in interviews.
35?? lol
What?
Neves could be the perfect Eriksen replacement tho
sign youssouf fofana and start a midfield trio of mount as a 10, bruno as an 8 and fofana as a 6.
have a backup youthful trio of mejbri as a 10, mainoo as an 8 and oyedele as a 6.
mctominay will provide further depth.